Mariah’s ‘Memoirs’ Set To Flop; To Miss #1

Published: Wednesday 30th Sep 2009 by Sam


Mariah's MemoirsAccording to Hits Daily Double, Mariah Carey’s ‘Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel’ is set to debut with the diva’s lowest ever opening week sales. The reputable industry website has forecast Carey, 40, to sell in the region of 160,000-170,000 first week, which is currently enough to secure a #2 position on the Billboard 200.{Source}

Ouch. In as much as there has been little buzz surrounding the album and a lukewarm reception to the singles, I still expected ol’ Mimi to pull in better numbers than this; it’s actually quite shocking. I would bet good money on the folks at Def Jam crapping their pants at this exact moment. It’s pretty much a given that her team will spin this (#1 R&B album) and her lambs will say ‘it’s where you finish, not where you start’. Yet, I challenge the lambs (who I really do love, by the way lol) to quote me 5 albums, released in recent times, which have sold such numbers first week and gone on to major success. With the album possessing little in the way of ‘quality Top 40 material, it’s not looking good for Mariah – at all.

Perhaps, with ‘E=MC2’ tanking and now this, Mariah is entering the phase many once-popular divas eventually enter – declining relevancy. The worst thing is, I feel Mariah has done this prematurely – as I very much feel she has it in her to deliver a quality album in the vein of ‘The Emancipation of Mimi’  – a near perfect compilation of soaring classic ballads and durable Top 40 smashes. IMO any suggestion that this sleeping pill of a CD (‘Memoirs’) is a patch on ‘Mimi’ or even ‘Butterfly’ (as I keep hearing folk spout) is laughable. The latter boasts a consistent sound, which saw classics such as ‘Honey’ manage to sit feasibly and believably beside songs like ‘My All’. ‘Memoirs’, to put it simply, boasts no such versatility. Rather, save for a few tracks, feels like a contrived effort to re-engage her long-suffering early fan-base, who in recent years have seen Mariah plough to career lows with the likes of ‘Touch My Body’ and ‘Obsessed’.

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  1. Thatmangojuice September 30, 2009

    Are you only looking at american sales again? give us some numbers on how she’s doing globally, i could care less about the US.

  2. Natalimbruglia September 30, 2009

    Mariah is a diva.

  3. coldhearted September 30, 2009

    I think the flop in sales isn’t an accurate reflection of the quality this album delivered, but a general reflection of ppl’s attitude towards her. People are starting to care less and less, especially after E=MC2 and singles like Obsessed and the Foreigner’s cover. There are some solid songs on the album, but she needs to pick the right releases and do the right publicity to get the sales..sigh..I was really hoping she’d get more #1 and eventually top the Beatles in that record..

  4. Zebady September 30, 2009

    Stay off the vino Sam…
    A #2 debut is hardly a flop….
    You really do drop these incendiary posts to rile all the lambs and get your site traffic up huh?
    Whatever works for ya..

  5. jeremydante September 30, 2009

    amazing write up you did. im a huge fan of the blog & have been reading for three years. amazing piece at the end. i hope that mariah can work it out & boost sales by releasing a dope single from the album. right as you are, there are no uptempos to boast as radio hits. everything is slow to mid-tempo. keep up the amazing work. as a living lamb, im very pleased with you synopsis of what needs to happen versus what has. you have my full support.

    http://www.jeremydante.wordpress.com

  6. butterscotch September 30, 2009

    girl you tried it!!!
    the definition of a flop would be anything by kelly rowland!!!
    FAIL.

  7. hellokeithy September 30, 2009

    with the lack of promotion… not surprised.
    but with the current promotion and this sales – it does match.

    i still have yet to see the outcome of this era at the end of the day…

    i see no reason for her to sell big these days… she has done her part and she’s just enjoying what she wants to do… something that current and starting artists have yet to accomplish.

  8. Char September 30, 2009

    Wow, Sam- you tryna get the lambs mad with that title, huh? LOL.

    I’m not really a fan of MOAIA tbh (albeit a few songs), but I expected better numbers than that. I still like her and blare out ‘Emancipation of Mimi’ to this day, so I hope things pick up for her. And ‘Butterfly’ was my ish! I wouldn’t write her off just yet- I think Mariah’s still capable of churning out a quality album.

  9. Travis September 30, 2009

    Well it’s pretty obvious it was going to flop. No promotion was done at all.

  10. Imyourstar702 September 30, 2009

    I think she should take a break now…

  11. Stoney-Brie September 30, 2009

    she should have taken her time after the E=MC2 flop.
    So if MiMi fans are sayin this aint a flop ((((the number 2 spot and the sales)))), i think Janet has never flopped in that case!

  12. Angie September 30, 2009

    I would hardly call a number one single, (“Touch My Body”) a career low.

  13. danny September 30, 2009

    sam, u are right, this is a flop for mariah! everyone comparing this to butterfly, lol HELL NO

  14. Mikey September 30, 2009

    Sam, you’re “analysis” is bias and laughable my friend.

    First, HitsDailyDouble does there analysis is based on FIRST DAY FIGURES alone! They compile this based on sales of the first day and ESTIMATE what the sales will be for the week.

    Now a researched and actual talented journalist would actually state that AND state the fact that Mariah did ZERO promotion for the album on its actual release date! Rather, her team have opted to arrange her HUGE promotional push for Friday (which is going to give it a huge weekend surge) as she is going to appear on The View and The Today Show on Friday….both of which will include performances and interviews.

    So, instead of going on a 3 paragraph rampage about how it’s set to “flop” after one day with no promotion yet a talented journalist would have actually WAITED until the numbers came in to go on a smear campaign against her. You’re just using this as ammunition to make Mariah looks bad because let’s face it she’s Mariah Carey and you’re “Sam”. LMAO

  15. Mikey September 30, 2009

    One should also point out that HitsDailyDouble predicted that Black Eyed Peas would bring in 150,000 in sales prior to their promo push for their album…..they went on to bring in over 300,000 their first week.

  16. Anonymous September 30, 2009

    Lol, the lambs are in denial! I agree with everything Sam said. I find it enormously depressing to watch old performances of Mariah sing “I’ll Be There” and listening to her old material and then having to digest what she puts out these days. There’s no artisty left in her music, no soul whatsoever, she sounds like a product! I guess every diva has to decline sooner or later, even the greatness that once was Mariah Carey.

    I guess if Leona Lewis starts doing more uptempo, R&B type songs she’d be a suitbable replacement.

  17. IVORY’S INTELLECT September 30, 2009

    Rihanna’s Good Girl Gone Bad and Fergie’s last one both sold almost half of that first week and they went on to be big, so it’s not too late. Some albums hit no1, sell half a milion and then stall, so it’s better to start slow and build up.

    Still…what I heard from this record was boring. The songs sound so similar and average.

  18. lena September 30, 2009

    lol at the lambs saying no promotion…Mariah starting promoting from July with her performance at the MJ memorial, then the obsessed performance in prime time at AGT, then the delivery of obsessed remix at bet, then Oprah, then radio interview with Babs Walters, then radio interview on z100, hot 105 in ny, then ryan seacrest syndicated radio show, then 2 radio shows in la, then today show and now the today show appearance and the view on Friday- brickloads of promo.

    The problem is that the album is not good- it was not a good idea to stay with the same producers for the entire album- half of it sounds the same, the prologues and interludes slow down the album and makes one skip over tracks and the stupid whispering is ridiculous.

    Grown folks don’t want to hear a 40yr old sing ‘up out my face boy’ and ‘why u up in by george foreman’. Having said that, this album won’t do anything overseas. She needs to take a break after this era, have some babies with nick and then come back after 2 years.

  19. Anonymous September 30, 2009

    OK Sam I usually agree with everything you say regarding Mimi. I don’t think she is what she used to be. I can accept that she lip sync’s alot now a days. I’m not a delusional lamb. But #2 is not a flop!!! Seriously you’ve talked highly about people who came in under 25 before.

  20. Anonymous September 30, 2009

    Okay umm yeah…i thought this site was pretty cool at first, but the dude running it is obviously bias. I mean, if you can praise Whitney (who is obviously talent-less, both vocally and musically compared to Mariah, and you’ll be retarted if you’re in denial over that), then why not Praise Mariah as well, I mean, they’re the only legends we have relevant today in R&B.

    Dude, you read one magazine’s opinion, the album hasn’t even been out a full 24 HOURS…Give it a rest, you’re just jealous….OBVIOUSLY becasue you’re idols are nearly as popular as Mariah!!!

    I mean come on, Whitney’s video surfaced like TWO WEEKS after her Record, which is steadily dropping sales!!!

    I’m a Whitney fan too, trust…but I’m just sayin’!!!!

  21. Anonymous September 30, 2009

    I TOTALLY AGREE with the above post!!!

  22. Kyle September 30, 2009

    I’m not even that big of a Mariah fan but people are so quick to label EVERYTHING as a flop but do you realize what state the music industry is in nowadays? 170K is pretty damn good considering many #1 album this year have sold 100K or even less. And why are people always calling “E=MC2” a flop? The album sold over a million copies and was the 13th best selling albums of 08.’

  23. Mike September 30, 2009

    Sam, lay off the hate juice, please. As a Kelly Rowland stan, u kinda sound ridiculous right now. Mariah may have not had the best sales, or the sales you THINK she should have, but this late in her career, she is doing better then MOST. The numbers dont lie…just the bloggers. 😉

  24. Mike September 30, 2009

    Oh, and great job at giving yourself more traffic…must be hard taking notes from Perez, huh?

  25. static September 30, 2009

    who said whitney is less talented dan mariah?… lol, whoever said dat is f****** crazy! totally nuts

  26. Phillip September 30, 2009

    I think its funny that a less than stellar first day sales would spell doom for a new album. Like I have said before, I think this album is her best work since Daydream. Reviews for it have been good and I think it will sell well in the long run. Is it radio friendly? Maybe not. However, I think an album of this magnitude could generate alot of Grammy nominations including Best Female Vocal Pop Performance for Its a Wrap and Best Female Vocal R&B Performance for Angels Cry. I wouldn’t count her out just yet. Also it should be mentioned that when Whitney’s album came out she did not have any competition. C’mon…Paramore is doing really well nowadays..especially because of the Twilight movie and the new sequel.

  27. Bobby from Bulgaria September 30, 2009

    Lambs, don’t even bother to write comments here anymore… This blog is obviously going to a deep decline…

    -Bobby from Bulgaria-

  28. number1k9 October 1, 2009

    OK, i will agree with the stans/lambs (lambs sounds soooo stupid too)….

    A # 2 debut is not a flop. I just think everyone puts artists claimed to be diva’s on a higher pedestal for sales than other artists. So if the album does sell 170K, that isn’t what you’d expect from Mariah FREAKING Carey, point simple.

    Also, when it comes to diva sales, you expect them to at least go double platinum, not just a bit over platinum….. Which last I checked was how ‘E=MC 2’ did.

    And there has been a lot of promo for this album, hell a push back is promo if you think of it, adds a press release/news! This freaking post by Sam himself is promo! it’s a new age y’all. A no promo album would be like, an album no one new was coming out just randomly getting released tomorrow!

    number1k9.b*******.com/
    @number1k9

  29. Sam October 1, 2009

    Hopefully she’ll get people interested with her next cover single of The Foreigner’s “I Want To Know What Love Is” because anything else released from the album, would turn-off many. And what happened to the video that was scheduled to be released with the album? Mariah needs to step it up pronto!

  30. B October 1, 2009

    It will be very interesting to see how IDJ treats the almighty Mariah if these numbers turn out to be true. I remember them bailing on Janet just last year when her album sold 181,000 and came in at #1. Will they do the same to Mariah? Hmmmmmm

  31. parisian girl October 1, 2009

    wow mariah!!another flop era,170000 is too low for a diva like her,it’s disappointing,but what could you expect?she didn’t promote her album at all

  32. Nick October 1, 2009

    The album is another wasted opportunity. It is bland and boring – doesn’t dererve No2 even.
    For goodness sake – take some time, go round the world, get some fresh ideas ( or just go away and be quiet so we can remember the good times ).

  33. bobby October 1, 2009

    Okay so why did yall fell the need to bring Whitney in this when her album is a hit Hello 305,000 dedut #1 duh second week she sold over 153,000 third week over about the same as the second forth week a lil under 100,000 but that was predicted early in the week so sales can push over by the end of the week

  34. D October 1, 2009

    just cuz you don’t get #1 doesn’t mean you flop. sam you are a hater. when kelly rowland can do those numbers then you can talk

  35. bobby October 1, 2009

    Yall kill me aint yall the same ones saying she was going to kill whitney first week sales lol guess not i guess yall can chance it up first week sales dont mean s*** huh!

  36. Anonymous October 1, 2009

    this is so biased

    sales in the industry are low anyhow and obsessed was a very sizable, durable hit which which is still on the charts. none of whitney’s singles were even able to enter the top 50 on the hot 100. and touch my body is hardly a career low…it was a no. 1, so please.

    i’m not the world’s biggest mariah fan, but sorry, she still has hits and remains more relevant than whitney, in any case. i like whitney’s album but it’s basically a rehash of just whitney which flopped hard a couple of years ago.

    i wish both artists the best of luck but hate it when people employ a double standard. whitney’s current era isn’t exactly a resounding success, now is it?

    but anyone calling emancipation of mimi, one of her worst albums, one of her best, obviously has no idea. charmbracelet didn’t sell s*** and it’s one of her finest moments, for example. so i’m really looking forward to MOIA

  37. bobby October 1, 2009

    wow look at whitneys fanbase for this album its a older crowd how many older people do you know buying singles off itunes to make her singles hits her album is a hit so yea…

  38. Proud Whitney fan October 1, 2009

    LMAO THE LAMBS ARE REALLY PANICKING!!!!!!!
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    Whitney’s album debuted at #1 with 301k albums sold FIRST WEEK, and then some amazing 160k albums sold during the third week.
    Mariah’s opening week numbers are the same as Whitney’s 3rd week numbers.

    What comes around goes around. To all the haters (and lambs) saying Whitney is a “has been” for years, this is your moment. Take that.

    Now lambs are coming up with arguments like “#2 is hardly a flop”, “oh in this age 160k isn’t bad”, “she has done no promotion”…

    FACE IT
    WHITNEY has done zero promotion, NO hit singles and still #1 album already gold now. Oprah was during the third week. Mariah is probably struggling to even go gold.

    It’s not about promotion, not about bloggers being “biased”, not about album artwork. It’s about the quality of the music. I Look To You is “quality music”. “Memoirs” isn’t.

    Let’s hope that these lambs will buy the album together to make her album go #1.

    Whitney – no hit singles because radio doesn’t play it. Radio isn’t about music anymore. But when the quality of your entire ALBUM is good, people will still root for you. That’s why Whitney’s album debuted at 301k.

    Face it, it’s about the quality of the music, STUPID!

    And pricing “Memoirs” at $5.99, obviously, doesn’t help much.

    $5.99 stands for the quality of your music – TOO CHEAP!

  39. Proud Whitney fan October 1, 2009

    LMAO THE LAMBS ARE REALLY PANICKING!!!!!!!
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    Whitney’s album debuted at #1 with 301k albums sold FIRST WEEK, and then some amazing 160k albums sold during the third week.
    Mariah’s opening week numbers are the same as Whitney’s 3rd week numbers.

    What comes around goes around. To all the haters (and lambs) saying Whitney is a “has been” for years, this is your moment. Take that.

    Now lambs are coming up with arguments like “#2 is hardly a flop”, “oh in this age 160k isn’t bad”, “she has done no promotion”…

    FACE IT
    WHITNEY has done zero promotion, NO hit singles and still #1 album already gold now. Oprah was during the third week. Mariah is probably struggling to even go gold.

    It’s not about promotion, not about bloggers being “biased”, not about album artwork. It’s about the quality of the music. I Look To You is “quality music”. “Memoirs” isn’t.

    Let’s hope that these lambs will buy the album together to make her album go #1.

    Whitney – no hit singles because radio doesn’t play it. Radio isn’t about music anymore. But when the quality of your entire ALBUM is good, people will still root for you. That’s why Whitney’s album debuted at 301k.

    Face it, it’s about the quality of the music, STUPID!

    And pricing “Memoirs” at $5.99, obviously, doesn’t help much.

    $5.99 stands for the quality of your music – TOO CHEAP!

  40. bobby October 1, 2009

    ^^^^^ WOW i think he just kill all of yall but i gotta point i thing out it was 305K not 301K lol

  41. Bobby from Bulgaria October 1, 2009

    You wanna know why Whitney got that much attention first week???

    ONLY BECAUSE SHE WASN’T HERE FOR 8 YEARS!!!

    That’s all… People wanted a comeback…

    And we still can’t say for sure how many sales will “Memoirs” have in a week…

    -Bobby from Bulgaria-

  42. wtf October 1, 2009

    ^^^, that is not a good point..mimi’s last album did not do that well last time as per levels expected from..she went back to the studio to do better and comes out with this..trey songz has sales in the 140k mark and mariah gets the same and that not a flop?? you gotta be kidding me..this is bad and mimi needs to check herself..i am sure def will be pushing riri next..they just have had a not so good year..lets see how amerie does…smh

  43. Jack October 1, 2009

    With all due respect to Mariah, all superstars go through a drought period: Stevie, Luther, Aretha, Natalie, Madonna, Britney, etc. Even if Whitney had not experienced any problems, there is a huge chance that she would have received a drought as well. No one stays at the top forever. That’s why superstar artists have comebacks, even when they have not experienced any personal problems.

    I think the reason for Mariah’s recent sales are two things: (1) she makes too many albums with too many songs and she needs the public to miss her and not take for granted that she will make another album next year, and (2) her writing did not mature with her age. As an adult, I simply cannot sing about Windex, United Airlines, or lollipops.

    But, don’t count her out. She is a superstar and she will prevail.

  44. Anonymous October 1, 2009

    THATS BECAUSE HER ALBUM LEAKED AND HALF HER SALES WENT TO NUMBER OF DOWNLOADS WHEN THE ALBUM LEAKED..SHE SHOULD HAVE WAITED AND DID NEW SONGZ SINCE IT LEAKED

  45. reader g October 1, 2009

    a #2 album is a flop??? wow sam as much as i love you and your site sometimes the thoughts that come out of your head make me want to vomit. you missed the mark on this and it shows your ignorance to an industry that you report well on when it is artists YOU LIKE. try to stay objective. i guess thats why bloggers usually are just that.

  46. Jasmine October 1, 2009

    I still think Mariah will come in at number 1. Def Jam is full of payola for radio stations and her new video is coming out in a couple days. My opinion is that Mariah is pregnant and not really promoting this album like her usual way of being “everywhere” and on “every show” because of that.

  47. Manny October 1, 2009

    did any of yu idiots relize this is from FIRST DAY SALES . this info isn’t worth anything.

  48. whatever October 1, 2009

    Like already said in the post Mariah had this coming as all artists do. I’m a Janet fan who can understand lol; once an artist hits the late 30’s and 40’s and have been on top for awhile this is when we see the drop in sales bc the crowd they once had starting off; have grown up and are less into music as the young kids. Nevermind that talk that the music industry has changed; it has but this would happen to top artists no matter what.

    Whitney had the return she had bc she been away soo long and been through sooo much that ppl wanted to know; lets also not forget the power house she was when she began, but after using that pipe too much her voice just isn’t the same, but im happy to see her on top of things.

    take a look at the older divas that are going through or have gone through the decline phase after age 34 in the past six years
    J.LO- not much on the radar
    Whitney-fell off, but doing ok for now
    Madonna- holding well for what she does
    Janet- hanging on w/on then off progress
    Toni Braxton – trying
    to name just a few, So why not mariah?
    Just thought I add Janets last Album did 190k first wk and came in at #1 while under same label and management as mariah lol, but with that said I think its all on the label I hate def jam which is why im happy Janet, Toni Braxton, Tlc, ect. left bc they only do so much for their artists I like mariah alot and hope she leaves as well. Her project will do fine it just may reach 900k in sales in the U.S and about 500k global this will be a tough year for her, but I wish her luck and much progress

  49. whatever October 1, 2009

    Also I want to Say its just a matter of time before we see this happen to Beyonce even with all the promo and singles with videos she still didn’t sell like her past 2 solo albums did.

  50. Kells October 1, 2009

    Paramores cd is 3.99, but no one mentions that.

  51. Obsessed With 90s MC October 1, 2009

    Bobby from Bulgaria….

    How dare you come back to this EXACt same post after you initially said to all of your fellow Lambs to not worry about this blog or post. Your are a straight up dumb ass for coming back to this exact post, y’all lambs cannot grasp a hold on the reality, MC is a great artist, but NOT, and I repeat NOT with The-Dream and Tricky Stewart.

  52. Eric October 2, 2009

    Quality music pretty much always outshines quick attempts at hits. Whitney showed who the true “artist” is whether it’s a comeback or not, her music speaks for itself and stands above the rest. People can feel Whitney’s passion and relate to her story on many of her songs. None of Mariah’s songs will be remembered a year from now. Whitney took her time making a GREAT album while Mariah rushes AGAIN to release a less than sub-par album….very sad!

  53. Abe October 2, 2009

    @ Sam
    U and daily hits or whoever is reportin’ this s**t should have gotten their facts right before puttin’ it out there!I believe MC lowest album opening sales week were Charmbracelet in 2002. That album first week sales opened with 113K. I stand to be corrected!!!!
    Nyho, I don’t really care for MC right. She goin’ downhill with NC. Am sorry I don’t just care anymore!

  54. sean2009 October 2, 2009

    UMMM ABE

    CHARMBRACLET FIRST WEEK WAS 241K

  55. Bobby from Bulgaria October 2, 2009

    Why don’t you just mind your own business? Nobody can tell me what to do, right…

    I’m just bored so come here to this stupid biased blog to kill some time… And to have some fun with such stupid idiots like you, “Obsessed With 90s MC” fake s***…

  56. FiercerMC October 2, 2009

    Sam, why don’t u just stop featuring Mariah if you don’t have anything nice to say about her!!

  57. JimmyBoy October 2, 2009

    I am not a Mariah fan however nobody knows at this point how it’s gonna pan out. She might sell crap loads at a later stage.

    BUT…

    all the lambs were quick enough to slam Whitney’s first week numbers saying it was a flop….. Mariah ain’t getting near Whitney’s first week numbers lets be honest.

    Karma’s a b****, to the lambs: just enjoy the album and stop worrying about what other people think…… you crazy ass stans!

  58. snoow October 2, 2009

    Actually, Sam was being very nice to Mariah. He actually LOVES Mariah’s album more than Whitney’s. Can you guys read? But the fact is, Mariah’s album is destined to be a flop. Whitney had the HIGHEST opening week numbers among female singers in 2009. Also it’s already reached gold and about to reach platinum within months.

  59. snoow October 2, 2009

    @Kells

    Paramore’s album price has nothing to do with Mariah’s sales. Glad you brought up Mariah’s album price, cos it’s priced at $5.99 and still, no one wants to buy it. Whitney’s album was priced at $9.99 and still got huge opening week numbers.

    Oh dear. Lambs making excuses. This is a flop. I can already see another “emotional breakdown”….

  60. mimi October 2, 2009

    YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!! 160k-170k were all first DAY sales! That mean she sold 160k albums on the first day, that’s AMAZING!!! She’s even outselling Whitney. You people seriously need some medication!!!!

  61. kim October 2, 2009

    @mimi: you are delusional. http://www.hitsdailydouble.com came out with their revised predictions today and it still ain’t looking good for mimi. They have her at #2 with 160-170k and Paramore at 185-195k. My Gosh, Ms. Streisand is #3 at 150-160k predicted with no radio play.

    This is not looking good for moo-moo and no amount of promo can diguises a p** painted in lipstick- the album is stillnot good. Mariah may get radio play but the remainder of her album is warmed over r&b crap sung with no passion- newsflash for her, r&b gets airplay but their fans don’t purchase albums. urban a/c, pop and country fans buy albums..

    Whitney has a hit at urban/ac in i look to you, she had 2 other songs on the urban a/c charts and when she performed I didn’t know my own strength on oprah, she sung with passion and with feeling and many people responded and purchased her album because they felt her .

    Noboyd is feeling Mariah singing IWKWLI while she is dressed up like a s** kitten on her album. If IDJ and Mariah don’t come up with some tricks, her 2nd and 3rd week sales won’t be good.

    Karma is a b**** and I’m laughing at the MAriah stans now because they were unecessarily cruel to Whitney. Critique Whitney’s art, her album, her voice, that’s fair game but they went out of her way to call her s******, crackhead and talk about her personallife as she was reemerging with her life in shape.

    Nobody did that to mimi when she had her nervous break down.That is why the lambs won’t get sympathy from Nippy fans. No one wishes ill on Mariah personally but the album sucks, throwing shade on Nippy sucks, copying Whitney sucks.

    Lambs, now it is your time to wander in the wilderness and stop with the excuses, no matter how you spin this, less than 200k is not a good look for Mariah.

  62. kim October 2, 2009

    Mariah did not do 160-170k the first day. Hits survey sample stores and then predict based on those numers what the weekly totals will be. They did this on Tuesday published on Wed. Now, they do a revised prediction and publish on Friday so the numbers below are even firmer and they havn’t changed for mimi. In fact, the numbers got better for Paramore.

    Stunned, that MOIA is still at #5 on Itunes,

    #10 at Amazon and haven’t moved up.

    YOUR WEAKEND TOP 10 (OR 15) CHART PREVIEW: A shitload of debuts (figuratively speaking) will infiltrate the top of next week’s chart. Outside the holiday months of November and December, next week could mark the first time in nearly two years when each of the Top 15 sells more than 40k. Next Tuesday they may well be popping the champagne corks at Hollywood, in Disney’s first hat trick since they sold the Mighty Ducks. Congrats to topper Peter Paterno… Scratch that—we just learned Peter’s no longer at the label… Anyhoo, here’s what we’re looking at—and while we’re at it, here’s looking at you, kid….
    * Paramore (Fueled by Ramen) 185-195k

    * Mariah Carey (Island/IDJ) 160-170k

    * Barbra Streisand (Columbia) 150-160k
    * Breaking Benjamin (Hollywood) 140-150k
    * Alice in Chains (Virgin) 130-140k
    Jay-Z (Roc Nation) 80-85k
    * Miranda Lambert (Columbia Nashville) 70-75k
    * Madonna (Warner Bros.) 65-70k
    Pearl Jam (Monkeywrench) 65-70k
    * AFI (Interscope) 55-60k
    * Selena Gomez & the Scene (Hollywood) 55-60k

    Whitney Houston (Arista/RMG) 45-50k

    Miley Cyrus (Hollywood) 40-45k

    * Dethklok (Williams Street) 40-45k
    Harry Connick Jr. (Columbia) 40-45k
    * Denotes debut
    You may now return to debating a possible re-fi with your spouse. (10/2a)

    There is no Oprah effect sustaining Whitney’s album- 5th week out predicted to sell 45-50k, if that holds, that is great- total sales 670k 5wks out- this album will be platinum by christmas and when she gets back from Europe and performs here, the album should have decent sales over the holidays.

    Maxwell, Chrisette Michele and Whitney’s albums are the standout r&b albums this year- they are he truth! Listen to Whitney sing, ‘For the Lovers, ‘Salute’ and ‘Worth It’ and tell me that she isn’t singing with soul, feeling and emotion. her enuciation is a thing to marvel- when she is singing salute, she convinces me that she means what she is singing to Bobby, lol…
    did you think i was gonna be, well i’m NOT!, I’m Done!

  63. mimi October 2, 2009

    YOU ALL ARE JUST DUMB!!! DO YOU NEED ME TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU AGAIN? 160k-170k was based on FIRST DAY SALES, that means they predicted the numbers based on first day sales only!!!! How can your forecase the whole week when it’s just released for a day? Mariah’s FIRST DAY SALES alone OUTSOLD WHITNEY!!!! ARE YOU BLIND OR STUPID!!!!???
    Whitney’s album is plain trash! You mentioned Maxwell, well his album was slightly better but still a mediocre R&B album. Mariah’s album is quality album!!!!
    #2 is hardly a flop and also we have a Top 10 hit single OBSESSED! Where’s Million Dollar Bill and I Look To You? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  64. mimi October 2, 2009

    Mariah is THE VOICE AND YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT WHITNEY. Wait till next week when Mariah outsells Whitney!!!!!!!!! She’s singing on Today Show and The View and that gives her another boost!!!!

  65. Bobby from Bulgaria October 2, 2009

    In fact, it doesn’t really matter if Mariah outsells Whitney exactly the first week or vice versa… Who cares???

    It matters in the end. And it matters how your songs are received on the radio and in the charts.

    The TOP 10… The #1s… 🙂

    -Bobby from Bulgaria-

  66. JimmyBoy October 5, 2009

    mimi you complete crank. HitsDailyDouble does a prediction based on the first day sales. So Mariah is predicted to sell 160-170k in the WHOLE week based on her first day sales.

    Getting all up on your high horse calling people dumb when you are in fact completely wrong. HitsDailyDouble is a prediction site you fruit loop. If you actually believe that Mariah or ANYONE in this weeks chart sold 170k in one day then you obviously have no idea about the state of the music industry at the moment.

    Anyway you will see when the figures come out.

    hahahahaha 170k in a day….. Mariah wishes.

    Toodles

  67. Tyrell October 5, 2009

    Okay…for anyone who thinks Whitney had an opening week of 305k simply b/c it’s a “comeback”–you’re severely mistaken. The single, I Look to You was released a MONTH before the album was released and Million Dollar was released a couple weeks before the album’s release. Secondly, I Didn’t Know My Own Strength and Like Never I Left (w/ Akon) were leaked FOREVVVVER ago. Therefore, people had plenty of time to judge what this album would be like and whether or not it was worth the purchase. Moreover, it created a very nice “buzz” around Ms. Houston’s cd. Secondly, the buzz around Mariah’s last two albums was good and did alright their 1st week. Soooooo…why not the same for this album?? BECAUSE of its quality–that simple. ALso, for anyone who dismisses the importance of first week sales–it sets the tone. In some cases, SOME, the album ends up selling millions contrary to weak first and second week sales…this is will indubitably NOT the case with Memoirs of an Imperfect Angels.

  68. Tyrell October 5, 2009

    *Million Dollar Bill my bad

  69. Tyrell October 5, 2009

    *Million Dollar Bill my bad!! lol

  70. Tyrell October 5, 2009

    Also, Whitney debuted at #1 in 8 other countries besides the U.S.; while debuting in the top 3 in an additional 5 countries. And, they DEF. don’t hear as much of the gossip and rumors we do here in the U.S.

  71. SweatLikeLamb October 22, 2009

    Memoirs flopped for any standards and any countries.

    RIP..

  72. Bey Forever October 24, 2009

    HATEU Mariah’s 2nd single is bad as her previous efforts.

    I dont think anything could save this album. The album is bad right from the 1st song.

  73. rip Mama October 28, 2009

    Memoirs of An Old Angel..the worst album of 2009.

    1 out of 5*

  74. Carl November 22, 2009

    Oh yeah Sam, I went back to this article just to tell you. “Memoirs” is NOT Mariah’s lowest ever first week sales. “Emotions” did only 129,000 copies its first week.

  75. Enough is enough November 27, 2009

    Retire, retire, Mariah please retire..

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