After experimenting with Pop on his platinum-certified ‘Raymond vs Raymond’ LP and achieving a worldwide #1 hit with ‘OMG (Ft. Will.i.am)’, Usher is ready to completely abandon his R&B roots and embrace a more radio-friendly sound.
The chart titan has revealed that his working on a completely new type of music called “Revolutionary Pop” which will be a combination of various genres. See what he had to say below:
I’m a consumer of culture and love mixing styles and inspirations, both in my music and my style. I’m working on a new genre of music — Revolutionary Pop — which combines several music genres to create a new sound experience. {Source}
It seems that Usher and Beyonce are both preparing to push their artistry to icon status. However, it’s ironic that they both seem eager to join the Pop music bandwagon when the most successful albums of their careers to date – ‘Confessions’ and ‘Dangerously In Love’ respectively – were contemporary R&B.
Still, with Pop now the dominant genre, it is arguable that the only way for them to have a major impact on a worldwide audience would be to adopt that sound. Hopefully, they find balance in their music like Janet Jackson and Mariah Carey, without neglecting their Urban audiences completely.
Sidebar: There is nothing new under the sun so it will be interesting to hear what Usher and Beyonce claim to invent.
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IT WILL JUST BE A RECYCLED VERSION OF SOMETHING OLD,BEY FOR CANT INVENT ANYTHING NEW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I THINK SHE IS AMAZING SHE IS STILL NOT ORIGINAL, WHAT BEYONCE DOES BEST IS PUTTING OUT BETTER VERSIONS OF THINKS THAT ALREADY EXISTED, SHE UPGRADES ORIGINALS THATS WHY PEOPLE LOVE HER
*BEY FOR ONE CAT INVENT*
another R’n’B artist leaving his roots to get more cash and be ‘popular’… why cant these artist stay true to them selfs? /:
YOU HAVE TO RESPECT AN ARTIST FOR INNOVATING THEMSELVES TO STAY RELEVANT. IF YOU AREN’T CAPABLE OF VENTURING OFF TO DIFFERENT GENRES AND BE SUCCESSFUL THEN YOU AREN’T A TRUE ARTIST.
USHER IS DOING USHER.
This is a true artist! while he is trying to make good music and make money, other lessors are on twitter picking fights..lmao
ugh.
Interesting how Bey 5 minutes ago speaks of blending the genres and as soon as it’s mentioned you already have people jumping on a bandwagon. Usher just heard Graffiti album and got inspired since Breezy was so low key last year. I am surpised that Usher wants to completely abandon R&B (after all 99% of his music have only been that genre). Bey on the other hand have been experimenting since B’day. I think her approach with this next project is to expand on what she’s already been successful at. If memory serves me correctly the last comment Bey made about the album clearly stated that she was only mixing different elements in music, she certainly didn’t label anything “revolutionary pop”. I’ve only heard absurd comparisons and illusions of grandeur by other pop artist. Bey is pretty quiet about what she has brewing.
For someone who is supposedly a lessor, he gets brought in a quite a lot of posts that have nothing to do with him…mmmmmm
Anyway good on you Usher.
as much as i love hes r&b music i love love love hes pop songs so i am cool with that making pop music is not have to be genric electro or dance he may come with something new and fyi bey album will not be a pop album its a mix bey dosent have an album that is straight one genre
hmm..@nina, who do u think I am talking about? or may be you already know..lmao
b*******.
It might be interesting, but I have to say I still preder more urban Usher;) Anyway, good luck:)
No its not staying ‘TRUE!’…trying so hard to become an ”icon” all the icons i remember never changed up their genre every 5 seconds they stayed in their genre and dominated it till they got the recognition they desrved! they didnt abanden their genre and the fans that supported them in that genre!! like usher i doing!…imply jumping on the bandwagon because its popular at the moment
@Hmmm Thank U!! U are so correct! U have to approach a artist that is trying to re-invent themselves to give there audience something new!! Usher will always embrace RnB music!!
The Usher definition of euro pop.
Great points. I think he should stick to R&B
I agree with RoyalKev Bey has been experiencing with POP since B-Day and she won a grammy for Halo in Pop Female. To me IMSF sounded more like a POP album than R&B album anyway. Usher has done a mix.
It will be interesting to hear what they both come up with.
Revolutionary Pop? At least only Michael Jackson and Prince could do it
If R&b lovers really loved r&b they would SUPPORT the artist that do R&B music. Many artists are going for pop music, because they don’t really get the sales they need. PLUS, this is a different era and Pop music is in. Before, Usher and Beyonce did more pop music, they were considered international artists anyways, and they were also put into the POP r&b category.
Artists are allowed to change, just like the era and people always change, throughout the years. 50’s rock and roll music, motown, grunge and so on, isn’t made anymore. That’s why the first two music categories I just mentioned are considered classics. Usher isn’t selling out, I think its more of his fan base selling out. it took OMG to get him a number one on the BILLBOARD 100, the most important chart. When he did r&b singles, like Hottie Tottie, and There’s Goes My Baby, it didn’t even make it into the top TEN. When he did DJ GOT ME FALLIN IN LOVE – POP, it went to number 5. So we have to look at the whole picture.
Once again when a BLACK ARTIST wants to try something new with their music they always get all of these negative vibes from a bunch of close minded people. Did Britney get in flack when she went more urban with I’m A S**** 4 U and working with R&B producers NO. I love Usher as an artist and still looking forward to what he brings to the table next go around. In my Jay Z voice “If You Want My Old S*** Go Buy My Old Album”
BOOOOOOO Usher will always be better in the 90’s what a sell out pop music sucks!!!! it was better in the 90’s now its just pure trash!
WTF?!?! im not saying that stuff because usher is black!? im saying it because its my opinion! so annoying when someone cant back up a simple discussion with intellegance and thought so they just say its because his black/ white/ asian/ hipanic ect
I highly doubt there will be anything revolutionary about Usher’s next album.
He’s obviously desperate if he wants to work with Britney Spears, out of all people.
Usher seems to want to abandon his R&B roots. There isn’t anything wrong with experimenting, but from the sound of his next album, he’s going completely pop.
Why be a sellout? Oh well. What Usher does isn’t killing me, because I don’t support him any way.
Beyonce has been experimenting with pop since Destiny’s Child, so what are you talking about…one of her biggest songs, Irreplaceable, was a pop song…Beyonce never said her new album is going to be straight electro-pop…she said she’s using more live instruments, and is inspired by 80’s music (more specially Michael Jackson’s Off The Wall album)
I liked OMG but I don’t care to listen to an album full of dance music. Next!!!
Um, when did Beyonce say she was on the “Pop music bandwagon?” She didn’t say anything about POP, neither did she label what she was doing as “Revolutionary Pop.” Last I checked, she said she was mixing different genres, which doesn’t mean strictly POP, does it? And what she also said was that the music is inspired by Lauryn Hill, Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. Sooooo, WTF are you talking about Trent?
Anyway, I liked Raymond Vs. Raymond because it was VERY R&B aside from OMG! He had some great R&B tracks and his voice goes perfectly with that sound. OMG and DJGUFIL are UBER WHACK and ANNOYING as hell! I don’t think he would do hisself any favors as far as his legacy by doing anymore Pop!
Oh dear, oh dear (clutches old usher cds and hides)
we are in a age of bandwagon music… one makes pop..the rest folows.. whats the point in havin a GENRE if everybody is making the same music..and why is everybody hyping up their albums lately.. just make the music and let the listeners judge
GTFOH! MJ is the King Of pop for a reason and also he must of never heard of Prince, egotistical p****, and do Bey Stans always gotta bring her into everything, she is not the first artist to experiment with pop music, AND BLEND GENRES, she did not say she wanted to blend genres but TO CREATE A NEW ONE, and when people mocked her for her foolish comments she back peddeled by saying she wanted to mix genres of diffrent music by listening to different artists FOR HER NEW ALBUM.
and FYI im a fan of usher and what his does…been a fan from the get go and brought his albums! i was glad he was experimenting with pop on his last album he switched it up and it was a success, but for him to now want to do a ‘revolutionary POP’ album is ridiculous when his genre is R’n’B…if he wants to reach icon status he needs to stay in R’n’B and dominate the other artist in their instead of just switching genre’s……when he puts down the mic whats he going to be remembered for? confessions or OMG, he shoudl just improve on being great instead of starting something new
TRENT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!
Usher’s most successful albums have all been R&B…his album has not sold as well with this pop music! His singles might have sold better with the pop audience but overall this last album lacked substance!
I think he should mix his sound with both Pop & R&B
As if anybody still cares about Usher.
I say go Pop! Music is about making money & R&B doesn’t sell.
#EpicFail
@REALTRUTH I F****** CO SIGN..everybody is fixed on tryna be the new mj
What about your R&B fans? Uknow… the ones that MADE you?
LMFAO AT THAT LATE JUICE KEEP CHANGIGN AND DELETING MY COMMENT HATS WRONG GWARLS YOU CANT TAKE GETTING THEM NO WALL HAVING ASSES DUG INTO BY SOMEONE OVER THE INTERNET BUT HAVE NO PROBLEM LETTING EVERY TOM D*** AND HARRY SEMENIZE YOU IN REAL LIFE FAGGGS!!!
He should do a song with Beyonce. They are both sellouts.
I doubt that there will be anything “revolutionary” about Usher’s next album!!!!!!! These days, arists such as; Will.I.Am—>The Black Eyed Peas), Lady GaGa, Katy Perry and Ke$ha all claim that when there sophomore albums and singles are released – it will be “POP MUSIC” at it’s best, when in fact, the albums are either, highly or minorically…
– GENERIC
– MEDIOCRE
– FORMULAIC
-INTERESTING (BUT NOTHING NOTEWORTHY)
– CATCHY (BUT LYRICALLY POOR)
– RADIO-FRIENDLY (BECAUSE OF THE THOUSANDS OF REQUESTS THAT ARE BEING SENT TO RADIO PROMOTERS ETC…….)
– ELECTRONICALLY/DIGITALLY PRODUCED WITH THE SAME, PENDING CLUB BEATS THAT WE HEAR IN ALMOST EVERY POPULAR SONG THESE DAYS
Nonetheless, I will support Usher in his artistic strives and efforts (Because I did happen nto like O.M.G (Mostly because of the composiion and melody itself-The lyricsalways got on my nerves when I heard them). He wants to be known as a “revolutionary” artist so I guess it’s almost inevitable he makes “revolutionary” music. But whenever *most* people think of Usher – they think R’n’B…. They think “YEAH!” “LOVE IN THIS CLUB” “POP YA COLLAR” “U GOT IT BAD” and even “YOU MAKE ME WANNA” and “U REMIND ME”, so it’s hard to contemplate Usher becoming an ‘pop artist’! But if you want to stay alive in the industry (make $ dough $) you have to appeal to the masses and the masses want “POP”, because that is what is popular at the moment!!!!!!! But I still doubt he will become that because most of the songs released from ‘raymond vs raymond’ were urban-R’n’B (excluding D.J Got Us Falling In Love)
if you dont like the site and cant have a proper disscusion…get off it?!?!
u know that red ‘X’ int he corner of the screen!?
ROFLMAO @I SLAY THAT LATE JUICE…….
DAYUMMM! LOL!
^^ OH B**** PLEASE, SHUT YOUR PANZIE ASS UP. DONT WORRY ABOUT WHAT OTHERS DO WORRY ABOUT YOUR MUTHA F***** SELF THATS PPL PROBLEM THESE DAYS. ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS CONTRIBUTE TO THE TOPIC AND HOPE YOUR HAPPY GO LUCKY ASS ON SOMEWHERE!!!
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THAT LAST COMMENT WAS TOWARD @CRBB BTW
Dangerously In Love may have sold loads but it was a pile o sh*te!!
as long as he stays s*** then I’m cool.
LOL…..your a JOKE!
you dont like the site or trents opinion..so you come on here everyday just to comment, my advice get a job and an education! i dont have to write in caps to get attention, i dont have to war over the internet, and i dont spaz out everytime some one has an different opinion to mine. you are genuinly one of the most pathectic people ive ever spoken to i genuinly feel a lil sick replying to you!…. before your make yourself look more stupid than usual log off
@CRBB
B**** PLEASE YOU ARE DOING IT NOW! DUMMY. FOR SOMEONE PREACHING TO OTHERS ABOUT GOING TO GET AN EDUCATION YOU DAMN SURE DONT HAVE MUCH YOURSELF, NOT ENOUGH TO SPOT YOUR F****** FAIL F***!! LMFAO MOVE THE F*** ALONG.
LIKE I SAID WORRY ABOUT YOUR MUTHA F****** SELF AND FOCUS ON GETTING OFF OF SSI, FOOD STAMPS AND THE PLETHORA OF OTHER GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS YOUR ON, NOT ME GORILLA. YOU ARE THE HELP YOU BUM B**** AND I DIDNT SEND FOR YOU, SO SIT YOUR ASS IN A CORNER AND PICK A NUMBER.
GET OFF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY COMPUTER AND READ A BOOK.
I SLAY THAT LATE JUICE….just mad because trent denined her job application!! oh well back to the streets
i dont even have a clue what ssi and plethroa are nor do i have any need for food stamps…not even sure we have them in the U.K but its good to know you have experience in these things as you’ll be using alot more of them in future…stay mad, stay broke and stay uneducated.
why has a blog got you so angry anyway? its a blog…your acting like trent took away your welfare?!
Oh well Chris did it first.NEXT
Don’t we have enough Pop stars? Usher is becoming just another statistic.
yasssssss USHER ABOUT TO SLAY….AGAIN!!!
they didn’t say they were investing anything….sigh
I miss R&B Usher. I don’t care for R&B Beyonce. I like Ashanti over her. Hoever, i do love as a pop act. She should stick to that I don’t know about Usher though.
@I slay that late juice!!!!!!!
OH… OKAY!!! AT FIRST, I THOUGHT IT WAS TOWARDS ME LOL!!!!!!!
On behalf of “I slay that late Juice”___________________
DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OBVIOUSLY *PRESSED* AND FELLOW ARGUMENTEE!!! EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION AND YOURS HAS JUSTIFICATION IN IT!!!!!!! It’s funny how people can say “GO AND GET A JOB AND AN EDUCATION” and “THAT THEY FEEL SICK REPLYING TO YOU”when they are the one’s who are looking for arguments with YOU and is the only person who is still replying to your comments. LMAO!!!!!!!
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STAY REAL!!!!!!!
I guess I got my last taste of greatness with Here I Stand. I paid heavy attention to Usher through and following the release of that record, and what he’s done since hasn’t been as good. “Here I Stand” itself is probably one of Usher’s most underrated cuts.
Unless he means doing a heavily promoted duet album with Justin Bieber, there’s no way he’s going to break the precedent he made with Confessions.
haha you proberbly have a lot of things..crabs, h*****, low self esteem, no self confidence, a lack of brain cells, no education, no job, no money, no attention, no life….. the list of your life fails goes on but one thing you dont have is my mind. once i click X i wont even remember your screen name or what you’ve said real T.
but i am a godly person so i hope your life improves from being the local gutter rat. oh and keep pressing refresh im done with you now i was just a lil bored thanks for the entertainment.
SELL OUT!
Whack just like Beyonce’s cheap ass. I wonder if he steals songs too?
@salz
HOW IS HE A SELL OUT USHER HAS ALWAYS MADE MAINSTREAM RELATABLE MUSIC
#SIT
Join the club!!!! WELCOME TO THE BASIC GENERIC POP ERA!!!!!!! TAKE A SEAT USHER AND MAKE US DANCE!
Beyonce experimenting. Big whoop. These people act as if she was the first person of her generation to experiment with different sounds.
I guess these people completely forgot about Britney, and Christina.
@RoyalKev. This is not a joke…you should start youur own blog…I know it’s a lot of work (I had one) but at times I find myself scrolling down just to find your comments…you have a good head on your shoulders…for real do it!!! 🙂
Now Usher wants to go “POP”. LMFAO!!!!!
I agree @Remmy. I hope @RoyalKev tried out for the position for this blog! You’d be great @RoyalKev!
Ps I don’t have a comment now cuz RoyalKev took the wors out my mouth right down to the Chris Brown statement…
Contrary to Usher, Beyoncé was already familiar to pop, during Destiny’s Child heyday. I’m sorry to say this, but Usher has completely sold out in order to remain bankable.
I don’t blame him but I’m no longer a fan since that OMG garbage song.
Still waiting for the “so called” Chris Brown to create his own genre….lmao..
Thanks Remmy, that’s really a big compliment. I’m actually moreso a songwriter and I’ve written a screenplay recently… but I’d love to do a blog. That’s really an interesting thought, maybe I should bring you on board. 🙂 I’d definitely have to have some kind of association with TGJ… I just love the people that this site reaches out to. I even relate to a few of the people I see often ( Amazing Lee – is like a wise friend, Kiddz – is a fun cousin & even S*** has a one- of -a -kind – tell -it -like- it- is personality). BTW, I did apply for the position but, I wasn’t selected(sad face here). I needed to reread what I was sending though, it was kind of … blah. Still, really , I thankyou for sharing that with me.
I CO SIGN to @ ROYAL KEV you are a GENIOUS for Blogging. You should consider it.
@Spunky poop, Thankyou 🙂
@Ingrid Okonta, Usher sees Chris potential, he’s not stupid! Don’t get me wrong Usher has worked hard for his status, but I think he’s been following Breezy’s lead lately. It happens, so many do it!
CHris did it and did it sell? THINK NOT! Usher Sells…. there’s a HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Usher is CREATING his own genre not creating an every genre type of album.. You stans are just damn slow.
i’m not liking all this sell out shenanigans that are going on with all of these r&b artists
What’s Wrong when an Artist wants to try something diff?
Usher doesn’t wanna be in a BOX same as Beyonce
@RoyalKev. No problem just stating the truth…it’s funny as a song writer and singer (and actor) I could tell you do the same…when you speak about singing ect I can tell you know what your talking about…
Good luck to you in whatever you do in the new year…(maybe we’ll see YOUR name in lights one day!!!
ughh I’m starting to dislike Usher and his huge ego trip. The man called himself, “The next Michael Jackson”. SIT DOWN. Revolutionary Pop? Please. People combine multiple genres of music all the time.
i agree with @blazin its like if r&b artists do pop they go to hell smdh
I’ll pass
@ Remmy, aaaaw big thanks again! I’m doing it all for the cash! … I’m kidding, I’ll always have a big love for music. I see your just as busy, if not moreso than I am! I wish you lots of luck as well! … and if you ever need a song, I have it(everything from substance to the generic stuff). 🙂
RnB cats are not selling out they are just going where the money is at! It’s called a TREND!
^^ I GOT YOU @ Ingrid that’s True! actually. It does look like Usher is riding on banwagon’s and trains of other people….desperate for that HIT! I hate to admit that but OMG it’s sorta TRUE!
@ingrid okonta
Chris who?
In cas you are interested his album has been pushed by Jive to this summer.ROTFL.
I can bet 100 bucks that he will pull a Ciara.
CHRIS has been pushed to the Summertime. It’s over for FIST “BASHING” BROWN!!! I don’t know why you people like this IDIOT! I mean he has good music from time to time but he is NOTHING to WATCH OUT FOR in the FUTURE! He lost that chance. Get over it.
ingrid okonta
January 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm
the reason why I give usher a h** sit down is because he said on the AMA’s when he won male R&B award that he will keep real R&B alive. I was like is this n**** for real… he had pop songs all over the charts. So now he doing a full blown pop album… so much for keeping R&B alive.
This is why I like chris because he always says that he love all types of music and their should be no barriers for it. Chris does alot of genres because he loves diffrent types of music. Chris has been doing pop since exclusive. Usher said he will never leave R&B blah,blah, and now he chasing after a dollar. Keep your integrity. Don’t say your going to hold down R&B or keep it alive and then do othewise.
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THIS!!!
why the f*** chris brown name always coming up dammmm
I feel nowadays everything is pop so I don’t mind
This better be the best f****** pop I’ve heard in my life thats all i have to say about that. R&B better step into a new genre as well.
Why should he stick to r&b? When he released his last r&b album nobody bought it. His only hit from that album got most of it’s support from Top 40 and Rhythmic radio. Urban listeners would rather bootleg his songs rather than hop unto itunes and pay the 99 cents for it. Why not market yourself to the people who will buy it? So what if he goes pop? The best thing about being a Pop artist is that you can do whatever the hell you want.
To the person who said the great icons never changed their genre every minute, Madonna is an icon and she reinvented herself many times in the 30 years she’s been in the business. Cher has reinvented her self even more times in the almost 50 years she’s been in the business and the old b**** is still making cash! If he was ever to change his genre to anything, Pop is the one to choose cause he can always do R&B while doing that.
Well, I love Usher to death, so I will never knock his hustle and I will never disrespect him, but I don’t know how I feel about this just yet. I can’t judge anything that I haven’t heard, who knows I many love what he comes up with! Hopefully it won’t be like what we hear on the radio everyday! He said he it was going to be ‘revolutionary pop’ so that sounds like it is going to be
It does seem like a lof of r&b artist are switching over to pop and embracing the new fad, but I would be lying if I said I didn’t like some of what I hear. Not all pop is bubble gum/techno/dance pop. Some of it I find really enjoyable. Plus most of it is good to dance to.
I just haven’t been feeling any of the pop that usher has been doing lately. I hated ‘DJ’ and ‘OMG’ grew on me, but it was still annoying as hell. To me, those songs sound like something that any other artist could do, he didn’t put his ‘Usher’ stamp on it. I will always remember Usher as that r&b cat. That ‘Nice and Slow’ Usher, that ‘U Make Me Wanna’ Usher, that ‘U Got It Bad’ Usher, that ‘Confessions’ Usher, that ‘There Goes My Baby’, that’ ‘Burn’. To me that is where he shines. He is that smooth r&b dude, when I see him doing pop, it seems forced and not as natural. IMO.
When it came to Beyonce, it just seems like such a natural transition. I guess because she had been with DC for so many years and they did a lot of Pop! I also think that it is just easier for a female artist to switch up her style and be more accepted than a male r&b artist. I just think that with Usher, he does almost all r&b up until just recently and now that everyone else is doing it, he looks like he is trying to keep up. But Trent has a good point, because both Bey and Usher best selling albums were the ones that were contemporary r&b. *shrugs*
Like I said, I will not knock his hustle or disrespect him, I just hope that I like what I hear. If he works with some hot producers and songwriters, who knows, he could come up with some really hot ish! You never know! I just hope that it is much different from what we hear on the radio everyday.
Good Luck Usher!
“However, it’s ironic that they both seem eager to join the Pop music bandwagon when the most successful albums of their careers to date – ‘Confessions’ and ‘Dangerously In Love’ respectively – were contemporary R&B.”
Yeah but those were the days when R&B was dominating the charts & ppl actually bought albums. Pop is now the dominant genre but i hope they don’t forget they’re R&B audiences just to get some hits.
Well he said he wants to combine genres so I hope he does that but does not abandon hid R&B roots completely. You have to have a balance. But his last singles have been pure pop. “OMG” “DJ Got US Fallin’ in Love” and “Hot Tottie.” But he also released “Lil Freak” But that was a little to racy for radio. “Daddy’s Home” was a great single but strictly R&B. “There Goes My Baby” was perfect. That just pure singing right there. If he does a balance it will be fine. I hope is he is singing and not just really dancing and becoming a ful fledge pop act.
@Hmmm: Why don’t you get from out of CB’s ass! I don’t see what he has to do with this thread, why are you so obsessed with him? Can’t wait to bring his name up with something that has nothing to do with him. I swear it’s like his haters are his biggest fans! Ya’ll know his every move, what he said on twitter on what day, his next single, what his mom said on twitter, every lil detail! Damn! Why don’t you worry about YOUR fave! Ugh!
FOR PEOPLE COMMENTING ABOUT HIM SO CALLED SELLING OUT.
YOU PEOPLE DIDN’T EVEN HELP HIM OUT WHEN HE PUSHED NOTHING BUT R&B SINGLES. SO SHUT UP.
YOU’RE THE SELL OUT. YOU’RE NOT SUPPORTING THE R&B ARTISTS. SO WHAT SHOULD THEY DO??? CONTINUE TO MAKE MUSIC THAT DONT SELL.
YOU CORNY ASS PEOPLE LET JAZMINE SULLIVAN FAIL, SHE’S COMPLETELY R&B BUT SHE CAN’T SELL.
YOU ALL NEED A LIFE. SERIOUSLY. AND WHY WAS BEYONCE’S NAME ADDED TO THE MIX, SHE’S NOT GOING FOR THE SAME SONG HE IS. SHE’S MAKING A MORE SOULFUL, DICKWAG, IDIOTS. I SWEAR PEOPLE LIKE TO ADD HER NAME TO TRY TO MAKE THEMSELVES MORE RELEVANT. DEAD AT THAT GRAPE JUICE WILL NEVER HAVE HER AS A GUEST. THATS FOR DAMN SURE.
@The REAL Truth
Actually SAM brought Beyoncé up and they are addressing him.
@Nichole
Britney and Christina wouldn’t have been “exploring” genres IF…Urban Top 40 didn’t started dominated the charts. They had to fall in line if they wanted hits. Everyone knows that if you want to smash on the charts, you need to have radio in rhythmic, urban AND pop charts. And BTW, Bey/DC is a BIG reason for this. Just want to put this out there.
Honestly you guys, who CARES if hes doing pop?
For one we all know that he wont COMPLETLEY abandon r&b, hes a smart man..
& We need to realize that POP was the past decades sound..
20s/30s Swing
30s/40s Doo-Wop
50s/60s Rock n Roll
50s 60s Motown/Soul
70s Disco
80s Metal
80s Euro-Pop
80s/90s Hip-Hop
90s/Early Millenium R&B Soul
Late 2000s-Dance Pop
Theres ALWAYS gonna be a new era where a SPECIFIC GENRE DOMINATES..
& why is everyone so negative about music in 2011?
I think its gonna be a HUGE comeback from 2010
This upcoming decade seems that it will be a mix of SOMEWHAT traditional hip hop, new wave pop & contemporary r&b..
I do have to say this though, nas said hip hop was dead..& rappers got their s*** together and are now on the road to saving it..now SOMEONE needs to R&B is dead so itll light a fire under artists like Usher,Beyonce,Brandy,Mariah Carey,Monica,Ne-Yo,Chris Brown,Alicia Keys,John Legend,Trey Songz,Jazmine Sullivan,Dondria etc.. ESPECIALLY the MALE R&B SINGERS..Trey has been the only one holding it down[barely] and john legend needs to come back,neyo needs to get his s*** together & chris/usher can EXPERIMENT but better not forget their roots..
Thats All..
I have high HOPES for musics future..
Beyonce, Gaga, Britney – none are going to create new genres. And Usher isn’t either.
I just find it funny when he says that he wants to stick to R&B and he’s one of the only “real” R&B artists left when that’s clearly more like Monica and Keyshia Cole, when Usher’s releasing songs like “OMG” and making “Revolutionary Pop”.
It’s bound to be like “OMG”.
Here is something VERY controversial but all of you need to hear it: Contemporary R&B IS URBAN POP.
Let me say this again: CONTEMPORARY R&B IS URBAN POP or rather URBAN TOP 40. And guess who is the Father of that genre? Michael Jackson. You know, THE KING OF POP?
In fact, I am chatting in Prince.org and they HATE on today’s music. Put it like this: None of them will hear the difference between Bey(even going back to DC days) and Gaga in sound. And you know what? They aren’t THAT far off. Someone said—in the Keyshia Cole thread a long time ago when she said she wanted to work with Bey—that No, No, No Part 2 was dance pop.
That’s CORRECT. The only thing they did was take the sound that they were influenced by(Lauryn Hill, MJB and TLC) and made it danceable, club-ready and radio friendly and they are a BIG reason why the industry is what it is. That was the sound for DC’s smash 2nd album.
THIS is one of the big reasons why R&B became the dominant genre of Pop Music and believe it or not, Euro-Pop is the progression of it though it lacks the edge that true Urban Dance tracks have, but more edge than your Madonna and Earlier Britney Dance songs from late 90s/Early 2000s.
That same poster(The_Kiddz) eloquently posted how even Gaga worked with Rodney Jerkins on Telephone with Beyoncé, who helped to craft the DC sound from the The Writing’s On the Wall days. And what about Rob Fusari who CRAFTED GAGA’S SOUND? He helped to craft early DC and even POP also(remember Bootylicious…DANCE MUSIC). In fact, HE PRODUCED NO, NO, NO(Part 2)
So when people talk about artists selling out because they are becoming “pop”, they ALWAYS WERE POP(Usher also). The difference between now and back in the day…lines were drawn. There is more of a blurring between Urban and Non-Urban artists now because Non-Urban Artists going back to the Early 2000s started to use more of a Urban Sound to get hits and THAT is how Euro Pop has become so prevalent in today pop music.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAND! ………It’s sad to see the slow death of R&B!
@KaVion
100 co-sign
@ingrid okonta
January 6, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Im not calling usher a sell out. Im just saying that he lacks integrity. When Chris and Beyonce do pop songs its really natural for them and they been doing it for a long time. Chris and Beyonce never said their holding it down for R&B ever. They always said they like to venture out on diffrent music. Usher is the one that said he is keeping R&B alive and all that B.S.
#Thatall
Im not hear to argue im just stating an observation.
People like luther vandross, marvin gaye ,james brown never lost their integrity for a dollar.
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Wow, 100% co-sign! Well said!
It’s smart for Usher to want to continue with the pop music. Think of all the singles he’s been releasing lately, each one is more pop than the last one and they have all been doing very well. Let’s be clear though, this is a certain kind of pop music…this is electro and sometimes urban pop. Usher isn’t singing the kind of pop music that was dominant during the late 90’s and early 2000’s. (Nsync, BSB, Britney Spears, Samantha Mumba, etc)
People are quick to call out, “oh he’s/she’s a sellout!” but you have to remember, these artists are getting paid. They have a job too. Besides, why just cater to one type of audience when you can cater to ALL audiences. I would much rather have people of all groups listening to my music than just one.
Keep this in mind, pop isn’t just a genre…it means “POPular.”
@JB
It used to mean popular but it’s taken on a different meaning.
@Drew
What meaning has it taken on?
@RihannaForever
Note you put “real” in quote(he’s one of the only “real” R&B artists) LOL. The thing is…people make more than what it is. The truth is and this is not to knock today’s generation of R&B or my generation of R&B(80s-90s) but it’s not “real” R&B. That hasn’t been done since the 70s.
Contemporary R&B is Pop Music by nature. I know it is hard for peeps to grasp it. And I never like to use Wiki, but it actually has a good article on Contemporary R&B: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_R%26B That’s why I always lol when people talk about going back to REAL R&B and that R&B is dead. It BEEN was dead. In its classic form that is.
@FemaleVocalLover
LOL, no I meant that he SAYS he’s a real R&B artist but he isn’t.
@JB
I know what it is but I have a difficult time attempting to explain it. It is a genre, though.
@JB….
What you say is true. Contemporary R&B, anything of Contemporary R&B is POP MUSIC. The issue is…and it goes all the way to when Black Artists first started Crossing Over that any time a black artists crosses over any way…there is unlying resentment toward them because they feel like you’re not representing their culture anymore.
But what they don’t realize that ever since Hip Hop became commercialized, every aspect of “our music” has been commercialized. Even the Neo-Soul Movement. The only way that would stop if if artists ACROSS THE BOARD own their own label(without hooking up with major labels like Sony, Jive and etc). That’s not going to happen. So it dumbs to talk about who is selling out and who is not. I always say this, labels sign artists to make money off them and whether it is “black sounding music” or not, they will take the money all the same.
@Femalevocallover
I see what you are saying. I’ve always been so fascinated by the music industry lol. I’m looking up more about contemporary R&B in fact.
@RihannaForever
I knew what you meant. I am saying that NO ONE HAS BEEN doing “real” R&B since the 70s. It’s all “pop” really.
@JB
You’re speaking of the Dance Pop that Madonna does and electro pop is an extension of it, but it is also an extension of Urban Dance music too. It’s like a merge of the two.
I meant that this: You’re speaking of the Dance Pop that Madonna does and electro pop is an extension of it, but it is also an extension of Urban Dance music too. It’s like a merge of the two @Drew…not JB.
@JB…
I am the same way. It’s my hobby because I love history period and then you add music to it which I love also, I can talk about it all day.
@ Femalevocallover:
I frequent the Prince.org forums, and I agree, they are so snobby towards everything made after the 1980s! Hell, they even hate on Prince’s new stuff, so what does that tell you?
BTW, I personally think that 70s and 90s R&B were the best periods for the genre.
@Spunkypoop: (Perfect name for an asswipe like yourself) Don’t even start that ish! We all know why his last album didn’t sell! If he hadn’t whooped lil miss princesses ass he would have been fine! Not to mention ‘Graffiti’ got a Grammy nomination for Best Contemporary R&b album so it was a quality album!
CB has been doing pop since his second album. ‘Forever’ was like his biggest World Wide hit and don’t forget ‘Disturbia’ that he wrote for his ex!
Usher is nothing but a damn sellout! I can’t believe these damn “music artists!” He’s just trying to save his sorry ass because his most recent R&B albums did horribly! That’s very sad because Usher’s R&B music, in the past, has always been so good! He’s never done pop before 2010. If he was a real music artist, he wouldn’t be so quick to switch up his style. I really hope it back fires on him! It’s crazy how real and good music in non existent anymore. I bet if late next year, hip-hop was in again, he would hurry up and change do R&B/Hip-Hop again. Remember when JT, Britney, Fergie, and other music artists were doing R&B.Hip-Hop when it was trendy back in 02, 03, 04, and 05? I just want a variety on the music radio. Pop is too bubblegum, childish/immature, and annoying now-a-days.
@True_Blue
Yes, they are very snobby over there. It’s a darn shame too. How are you gonna hate on the man’s music who the site is named after. It’s okay not like their songs or whatever but WOW!!! And this is PRINCE too. Like really.
My musical taste goes back a way…so I am going to say the 20s-40s(Jazz/Blues/Swing Era i.e Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong, Sarah, Duke Ellington, Ella, Dinah, Billie and etc) is probably the best IMO…but there have been strong music in every era, this era included.
Usher makes Great Pop Records that transition well into the Urban market as well so it works for him….Cant wait to here it.
Usher is like the Male Beyonce ….There both great R&B Artist that can transition well into Pop/R&B as well. Just Like Michael Jackson.
@Lola.
You realize that this(Remember when JT, Britney, Fergie, and other music artists were doing R&B.Hip-Hop when it was trendy back in 02, 03, 04, and 05? I just want a variety on the music radio. Pop is too bubblegum, childish/immature, and annoying now-a-days) for what you’re complaining about now, right?
YAWN, Isnt that EXACTLY what BEY said?????
Sorry, You cant sprinkle Glitter on Generic Pop & call it Revouloinary & that goes for Gaga too. Stay in your Lane usher & let the Queen B handle what you arent even capable of doing.
@Dion_ish
Good post: Usher is like the Male Beyonce ….There both great R&B Artist that can transition well into Pop/R&B as well. Just Like Michael Jackson
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Thnx bb:)
@Jewelz
Well, that’s showing where the trend in music going. And I feel it will be across the board for the most part. That’s the direction that music will go in the 2010s. And if it is successful more “Urban Artists” will be able to smash on other radio formats consistently, besides Pop, Urban and Rhythmic.
Its funny, When Bey starting talking about mixing different genres, “Revolutionary Pop” was the Exact thing that came to my mind. This will hopefully REVIVE the musc industry & set a Standard & more Trends for others to follow. Usher & Gaga are completly INCAPABLE of such a feat, I am so sick of Electro Pop music that I could boycott Radio!!
Pop isn’t really a defined genre and most of the time people say Pop as it being popular among many people, that’s what usher is trying to do. I think it’s smart to not limit yourself to any genre, but he will always be R&B and he will always be categorized as such….and for people talking about him for going the pop route why didn’t you all buy some of the R&B albums that came out last year…..
@VA STAND UP..hahaha funny name… so.. are you tired of being caught changing your name….I just love it when the Chris stans get mad and wanna slit their wrist..lmao..
May be you will commit s****** just like how the JB fan did..Over obsessed stan….Nobody is checking for him. That stuff u said about haters was actually said by Rihanna not your childish Chris who picks fight on twitter lmao..
Laughing at the people who claim Chris had done this before.. In what planet? pluto? lmao
I think I have a Very Keen Idea of The Type Of Sound
He Wants To Create On His Next Album, However,
I Do Believe He Is The Wrong Person To Be Making
It. Ill Be Listening Because of The Sound, But Not
Because Of The Artist Or SInger. I think this is Something
Close To What Chris Breezy Brown Is Aiming For On Fame.
Especially Judging From The Musical Growth and Change
0n Chris’s Last Five Collaborations!
ushers not leaving r&b
he said he’s goin to MIX IT UP!
so a little of R&B and a little bit of this new pop
Landen: “I think I have a Very Keen Idea of The Type Of Sound He Wants To Create On His Next Album, However, I Do Believe He Is The Wrong Person To Be Making It.”
AMEN!
“Usher’s most successful albums have all been R&B…his album has not sold as well with this pop music! His singles might have sold better with the pop audience but overall this last album lacked substance!”
Exactly! Unless I hear a GOOD pop song (one without auto tune and a whack beat), I’m not buying his album. I still wish him the best and everything though.
To the haters: You have to have major issues if you are happy at someone else’s anger or pain. I hope you get your life together.
Justin Bieber gave him some pop poison. He is such a sell out giving up on his true R&B fans whatever moving on.
Honestly you guys, who CARES if hes doing pop?
For one we all know that he wont COMPLETLEY abandon r&b, hes a smart man..
& We need to realize that POP was the past decades sound..
20s/30s Swing
30s/40s Doo-Wop
50s/60s Rock n Roll
50s 60s Motown/Soul
70s Disco
80s Metal
80s Euro-Pop
80s/90s Hip-Hop
90s/Early Millenium R&B Soul
Late 2000s-Dance Pop
Theres ALWAYS gonna be a new era where a SPECIFIC GENRE DOMINATES..
& why is everyone so negative about music in 2011?
I think its gonna be a HUGE comeback from 2010
This upcoming decade seems that it will be a mix of SOMEWHAT traditional hip hop, new wave pop & contemporary r&b..
I do have to say this though, nas said hip hop was dead..& rappers got their s*** together and are now on the road to saving it..now SOMEONE needs to R&B is dead so itll light a fire under artists like Usher,Beyonce,Brandy,Mariah Carey,Monica,Ne-Yo,Chris Brown,Alicia Keys,John Legend,Trey Songz,Jazmine Sullivan,Dondria etc.. ESPECIALLY the MALE R&B SINGERS..Trey has been the only one holding it down[barely] and john legend needs to come back,neyo needs to get his s*** together & chris/usher can EXPERIMENT but better not forget their roots..
Thats All..
I have high HOPES for musics future..
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Yess!! I agree 100% theres gonna be changes in the music industry & we have ot be prepared for it..like you said theres always a different ERA AND SOUND!
IM SRRY BUT “COMBINING SEVERAL MUSICAL GENRES” DOESNT SOUND INNOVATIVE AT ALL, IT SOUNDS LIKE A HOT DAMN MESS (WOULDNT EXPECT ANYTHING ELSE FROM BEYONCE)
@KYLE you can kiss my ass, right after you stop kissing brittneys
http://media.photobucket.com/image/beyonce%20gifs/vdbain05/gifs/beyoncebooty.gif?o=18
I’m ready! I’m just glad people that I grew up listening to are STILL dominating the charts a decade later!! It feels good just to hear kids say their names lol 😀
I’ve always been an Usher fan and will continue to support to him. Who really cares if he chooses to mix sounds…hell, he could sing opera I really don’t give a damn, once he continues to release great music, all is well with me.
As an artist, I think individuals should grow and explore different areas of music and not stay within the same box. Kuddos to him for trying something new and being innovative.
NOOOO whyyyy Usher
I must be a curmudgeon. Usher is only doing his back pocket. The word artist is overused by these black prostitutes, who first prostituted black music to suit “everybody” (white people). Fool -Fool black people bought into it , until you have that non talent Cheryl Cole jumping on the “R@B” bandwagon with her no talent ass. How much money does one person need Usher? Can you play any instruments, Usher? How does doing going “pop” make YOU innovative, Usher? Why don’t you and all dem other lazy assed R@B folk (I’m talking the usual top 40 suspects, not genuine R@B) admit that all you care about is the “shine”. Black people. our ears have become lazy. Yelling has replaced singing, monotone beats have replaced rhythm , image has replaced innovation. George Clinton and his like must cackle a night time when he hears our generation talk about “artistry” and innovation. Cho!
I’m glad for Usher and Queen Bee…. Michael Jackson pulled off a perfect transition from r&b to pop so let’s wish them luck