Legendary singer/songwriter/guitarist Carlos Santana is no stranger to Grammy sweeps as many remember when his massive 1999 hit, ‘Smooth’ (featuring Rob Thomas), swept the 2000 ceremony by winning 8 awards in one night.
It’s assumed his history with the golden gramophone is why his opinion on Adele‘s 2017 sweep (that saw singer Beyonce beat out for the top awards) was sought. And, it’s that very opinion that’s landed him in some serious hot water with Bey’s beloved fan base, the #Beyhive.
Referring to the hitmaker as “a model with a mic,” Santana asserts Adele’s win over Beyonce was justified because she cannot “sing, sing” like her ‘Rolling in the Deep’ singing counterpart. Ouch!
Get into the massive response inside:
“I think that Adele won because she can sing, sing,” Santana told the Australian AP.
“With all respect to our sister Beyoncé, Beyoncé is very beautiful to look at and it’s more like modeling kind of music — music to model a dress — she’s not a singer, singer, with all respect to her.”
“Adele can sing, sing,” Santana said. “She doesn’t bring all the dancers and props, she can just stand there and she just stood there and sang the song and that’s it, and this is why she wins.”
Twitter had a field day:
The backlash prompted Santana to take to Facebook to wield an apology:
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He lied! Delusion at it’s finest!
A beyonce fan calling someone delusional? Lmfao the irony.
You leave some of the most delusional comments on this blog. #OPINIONCANCELLED
Honey you wrote the book on delusion when it comes to this site. After all, you stan beyonce lmao.
I personally think that’s an insult to Beyonce’s years of hardworking talent. I’m sure Adele would humbly agree herself. I’m not one sided I would kii all the way if this was factual but it’s not. “Pretty to look at” his feelings must be diminished by his own past with women who can flaunt it and sing at the same time. Get out ya feelings boo!
Carlos didn’t lie ???????????????????
He’s certainly not a “beautiful liar” ?
This title is misleading
He emphasized the type of music not the voice
Beyonce is extremely popular and has, in the past, some very catchy songs. She can sing, but she’s not a great singer. She’s no where near Mariah, Aretha, Whitney, Celine or Adele. She doesn’t have a pretty tone or inflection when she sings and her runs are limited, not preecise and not crystal clear.
Yeah you’re definitely have no talent in music.
Anyone with a proper ear knows Beyoncé is one of the best. By far one of the best vocalists of all time…
You’re definitely a hater with no knowledge or credibility….
Next…
Of all time?
Lie serum you must be the most delusional hive member.
You a lie, her runs are diamond clear, princess cut stand next to Brandy coming after the vocal bible, Beyonce is the new testament so don’t ever trick! this is why she gets a standing ovation damn near every performance after 20+ plus years of service in the industry. You are mad and pressed! Not a great singer? F*** outta here!
@HailLegend
It doesn’t take a rocket science to see why Beyonce lost! He is kinda right! You don’t win album of the year bcuz of your CREATIVITY you win bcuz of THE MUSIC AND ITS QUALITY! I’ve been a fan of Bey since her days in DC and I can honestly say her last 2 albums have been her worst albums musically with Lemonade being her worst… she has done a phenomenal job doing marketing visual albums to cover up her lack of quality of music! Her music sounds just like everything on the radio with no substance! You should never win an award bcuz of your celebrity status or name! People act like Bey is the only artist that work hard! Alot of artists never get the chance to show their talent and they never get the recognition they deserve! Hell Solange album was better then both her & Adeles!
Praaach!!! Lemonade only went as far as a core audience. The Hive forgets there are 5 billion more people in the world outside of their world. Beyonce is singing bad trap music that does not show her vocal chops..you are only good as your last album… so she is the one to blame..where are quincy and jimmy jam..always stick to the same producers!
Well she hasn’t really sang for two albums straight so people tend to forget. But she can sing
But didnt he need her to help his superbowl performance like in 2003
How?
Can Beyonce sing?
Is she a Whitney, a Mariah even a Christina, the man has worked closely with her, I see no reason why he would lie.
No shes BEYONCE bigger than and more relevant than any of the mfs you named including carlos Santana whose only speaking her name because just like his superbowl performance he needs her for relevance… Havent heard from him since maria maria.. But i guess youre jumping on his band wagon because you hate yourself to nbbecause youll never strive in life foror anything besides sucking c*** n balls… Quit hating on her because her grind is incomparable to anyone thats close to you bih you can stay madddddddd.
beyonce bigger than Carlos Santana? Lmao so the rumors about how delusional beyonce’s fans are is true.
If you consider SCREECHING on key, than Beyonce is a singer. She does NOT have a voice like Adele. End of story. She is more of a Tina Turner/Janet Jackson type of performer, which we love. Dancers, Back-up singers, Backing Track, Stay singing Uptempo records to hide the lack of actual vocal talent.
Tina actually killed those vocals live though. You need to watch her performances from the 70s and 80s. Out of this world autenticity… and live. A way better live performer than the other you mentioned LISA! 🙂
Beyoncé is a much better singer than Adele. Smh
Both Beyoncé and Adele sing circles around Kelendria tho.
Lmao on what planet?
Adele live isn’t anything special and her performance at the Grammys proved it. Bey pregnant with twins served vocals and was obviously a better singer live than Adele lets not. Theres tons of videos on Youtube to cite and are factual sources. Adele cant even hit certain notes; exactly why her songs sound the same and why she couldn’t do a proper rearrangement of FastLove dhe sticks to one style.
Technical that is.. and in and out back tracks.. how many times has she gotten caught lip synching for yall to not see it? She was brave and cocky enough to do it from on the President.. sad sad sad
Exactly!! I love Adele, but she always sounds pitchy to me during live performances. Beyoncé is definitely the better vocalist. I also don’t get why Adele keeps getting mentioned among the great divas like Aretha, Celine, Mariah and Whitney? Maybe sales, but vocally she’s not there.
Carlos told no lies. And as expected, her immature fan base gets butthurt over the truth. So they can sit on Twitter all day with sore buttholes, won’t change the fact that a REAL LEGEND told the truth about the smoke and mirrors queen.
Immature fans? Have you seen your comment? Who do you Stan? Yourself obvs, with your bulls**t chat.
… a REAL LEGEND told the truth?????
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/whstn.gif
See what i mean? Immature. Lol you beyonce fans are more predictable than beyonces lies lol.
Shut up chile I’m entertaining your boring life, you wanted a reaction you got one. With your “lol’s” r***** .. scum of the earth. I hope you someday fall between the cracks of the earth’s crust and fall into space while you gasp for air BYE!
Lol and you still responded. I can set my watch by you ignorant fools.
I’m tired of this Grammy talk. It’s done now get over it. TGJ need to post something more relevant to now. It’s annoying!
And BTW I baffled by this foolery. Adele and Beyonce are two different people. Plus he needs to watch Beyonce on YouTube live. honk honk P**!
I just feel like at this moment, why bring her down to justify someone else’s win? ppl say she had too many writers to win best album. but ignore many of the early winners wrote 0 songs for their albums. next, they say she doesn’t sing that well. beck, and taylor can not sing at all.
You’ve said it all??????????
People hype of Adele’s voice so much and it’s a shame because she cant go any higher than an eb5 (exhibit A: her grammy performance). Both are “good singers” but vocally she doesn’t come close to the vocal technician Beyoncé is.
Don’t overlook Beyonce! The point is Adele is not anywhere near their level of vocal technique and skill. She’s a singer-songwriter, not a technical vocalist.
Beyonce is technically superior and her vocals are supported properly from her lowest to her highest belt and head note.
Lmfao the delusion. You must be tone deaf.
The nerve! I’m delusional YET you stan for Rihanna. She sounds like she smokes 50 packs a day lol. Know your place!
but Rihanna ain’t the one being called a non singer by a legend so you can sit dear.
Rihanna is a nonsinger tho lol. That’s common knowledge. She can’t even go .00001 seconds into a performance without losing her breath. Tell that boy bye!
Exactly.
Carlos isn’t even a vocalist.
It’s weird for him to comment when he hasn’t sung a note or even attempted to do so.
Well Prince never won and he is better than most acts that won.
Most of us haven’t sang a note but we’re commenting….Beyoncé’s album wasn’t groundbreaking. She’s talented and it was creative but her music was no different than any other singers. Say what you want about Rihanna she gives good music and she didn’t get any awards. She’s the one who was truly snubbed!
I used to think Carlos Santana was deaf and dumb…..:: I am shocked he gave an interview. On thing for sure, he certainly can’t sing.
Lmao beyonce fans can’t handle the truth. most ignorant people can’t.
You done said that babygirl…
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1964617/whitney-houston-o.gif
Story inspired by my comment in the Ed Sheeran post. TGJ needs to cut me a check LOL
And BTW I baffled by this foolery. Adele and Beyonce are two different people. Plus he needs to watch Beyonce on YouTube live. honk honk P**!
It’s about to get really ugly in this comment section. Kii
LOL THATS CUZ THE ROACHES CANT TAKE THE TRUTH LMAO
What a joke. Beyoncé may not be able to do everything but singing is one of the things she’s superb at. The only thing that might justify Beyoncé snub is the song written and some of the content of the album. After much consideration and debates with peers…I can agree that the album does compete with prior AOTY winners, especially none of the black winners. But then again Taylor got AOTY, so who knows.
Most honest I’ve seen so far,no lies detected
LMFAO ITS BEEN A BAD WEEK FOR THE ROACHNEST AND THEIR BUG QUEEN. FIRST QUEEN GAGA BURIES HER TIRED SUPERBOWL SHOWS FROM MEMORY, THEN SHE GETS SLAYED BY ADELE, AND NOW DRAGGED BY THE LEGEND CARLOS SANTANA LMFAO.
MODEL WITH A MIC? ISNT THAT WHAT THE ROACHES TRIED TO CALL RIHANNA? WELL NOW THE TRUTH IS OUT LMFAO!
His Logic can be applied to Fadga and every other pop star as well. Sit the f*** down stupid imbred hoé
LOL BUT HE ISNT TALKING ABOUT GAGA OR ANY OTHER POP STAR, HES DRAGGING YOUR NONSINGING BUG FAVE, SO SHUT UP AND SWALLOW THE L ROACH LMAO.
Oh but he is, he emphasised the “singer,singer” because he was differentiating the difference between the TWO TYPES IF SINGER’S. Adele falls in the category of Whitney, Mariah and Celine While Bey falls in the Category of Madonna, Janet and Tina Turner. He never said Beyoncé couldn’t SING. But of course the uneducated and hateful will run with their scrambled egg on a hook they call a brain.
Hahaha
Beyonce just earned her 22nd Grammy!
… and ‘Lemonade’ also shot back up to #2 on Itunes!
Some artist dream of “bad” weeks like this!
Not to mention She sold 25,000 records on Sunday night alone during the Grammys. What a bad week for Beyoncé! ??
LOL AND MEANWHILE SHE’S BEING OUTSOLD BY A NOBODY WEARING A TRUMP DRESS SO SWALLOW THAT KOOL-AID BUG LMFAO
That Trump dress wearing unknown is outselling Adele, Bruno, Weekend and many others as well THIS WEEK! It’s not hat serious! Get at us when her $5 album goes platinum!
LMAO NOT THAT SERIOUS….BUT YOU RESPONDED CUZ YOUR FAVES WIG GOT SNATCHED BY A TRUMP SUPPORTER LMFAO TAKE THE L INSECT AND DEAL LMFAO
The only L’s I’m getting today is LOVE … on this Valentines day sweetheart! Come harder babe!
Adele and Beyonce both can only carry a tune. One is not better than the other vocally in my opinion. If my opinion offends stupid fans who don’t know any better then go eat rocks and drink p***.
So what is Taylor Swift?
This reminds me of when Aretha said “gowns…great gowns”
Adele created the genre beige in the UK when 21 came out because people found her music being more bland than English cooking both bey and adele are okay in my books and the way that I see it whitney pisses over the two of them,and won a total of 7 grammys from what I saw on wiki dont know if that’s 100% true or not but im saying better acts have come and gone and won less as for carlos hes a south American right so them people prefer whites anyways so his opinions are invalid to me just like how morrisey slaged off black music as a whole which included whitney and my ledged Mr Stevie wonder
No matter how long You been in the game Beyoncé will never acknowledge your diss and you can’t take her career out it’s too late should have tried that back when she was with D.C. In the 90s
Beyonce wishes she had the legendary career that carlos santana has, so just stop. You sound dumb.
@gina Lol I sound dumb but how many ppl have come for bey and she still making how many millions off of sold out concerts across the globe off her name alone…. B**** stfu d*** riding somebody career you didn’t care about until he mentioned bey dumb h**
That’s his opinion….I swear these stans do the most. You guys have an opinion on anyone else that isn’t your fave so why can’t he ?… I like Bey but everybody have their own opinions.
Any legitimate vocal coach will tell you that Carlos is right, Beyonce’s voice is basic at best, from the tone to its lack of soul or warmth. Clearly her fans don’t (or can’t) understand this, which is why they’re so upset.
You don’t know vocals. Beyonce is a coloratura right along with Mariah Carey, Tori Kelly , and Jasmine Sullivan. Colortura’s are some of the most versatile vocalist out there. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Stop acting like you do!
Beyonce next to Mariah Carey vocally? LMAO and you say I don’t know what im talking about? LMFAO
@whut
Beyonce is a strong singer but she never had a really good tone. Just like in Destinys Child Beyonce was the strongest singer but Kelly had the better tone and Michelle had the most unique. A loud strong singer doesn’t always meant better that’s why you don’t have to be a perfect technical singer…
Kelly and Michelle both had weak vocals in comparison though. Beyonce’s voice had way more resonance and power. Hence, the reason why she was the LEAD!
@ We are the grandchildren
Kelly & Michelle NEVER had “weak” vocals as you claim! They just don’t have the tone and style of singing you probably like! Go back and watch those DC videos all the women knew how to sing! Beyonce just always had the strongest voice and Kelly had the better tone that is why she was the 2nd lead! It’s always been that way in DC! Kelly has a beautiful tone but she is not a powerhouse and that is ok u don’t have to be.
It has nothing to do with tone. Beyonce was the best singer/performer outta all of them. Whether you’d like to admit it or not
Actually, I remember when talking bout D.C. Back in the days, I remember a lot of people saying that they liked Kelly’s voice the most…
@We are grandchildren
Beyonce is a phenomenal artist but let’s not pretend like her other bandmates got the same opportunities as she did! No one will ever be able to tell me if Kelly was given the opportunity to perform at the Grammys she wouldn’t slay that stage! As I mentioned earlier Beyonce was always the strongest singer in DC but Kelly had the better tone! I swear these young Bey fans don’t no anything about DC y’all running yall mouth!
Not a singer? She has shown she can sing or multiple occasions. She was the lead singer of the number 1 girlgroup in the world. She sang in different languages, and has sang with just a mic, plenty of times. It just sounds like he is envious of her success. He may be a legend but he is not current soooo….
Number 3 group hon. The Spice Girls and TLC have the girl group crowns on lock. Amd he doesn’t have to be current his legendary career FAR outshines beyonces little music career. He has singles that have outsold her discography.
Beyonce might be ahead in terms of technique. Maybe. But Adele has the better voice & she emotes way better than Beyonce. While Beyonce can sing, that isn’t the only reason for people wanting to see her. With Adele it’s simply about the music. She doesn’t need the visuals & dancers. Also, Adele has greater lyrics & is an actual songwriter. Range isn’t always everything either..
Technique involves skill. If you wanna get “technical” Beyonce is a better vocalist than Adele. I don’t care how much she “emotes”. Emotion is SUBJECTIVE! It doesnt involve vocal talent.
Also if her voice is so basic, then why is her checks still double the amount of the legend and powerhouse?
Not defending what he said but that could be because she’s been out longer
Please shut up. You have no idea what carlos santana is worth.
No diss but Katy and Taylor Swift gets checks as well.
This has beain dog is looking to be famous he is a hater
Adele won because she is a songwriter with great penmanship.
Beyonce is going be even better next go around and this is what happens when your pretty talented
Easy answer to this debate:
Beyonce is a great singer (vocal actress); however her music sometimes comes off as not believable because she doesn’t write most of her songs so the passion is just not as present as Adele who IS a singer/songwriter.
I think this is what Mr. Santana was trying to convey…
Man please, Beyonce would sing Adele into a size 2. Check out Bey’s YouTube live vocal performances, she’s a beast.
Besides, this is the same man who insulted Bruno Mars, Bey, and Cold Play at last yrs Super Bowl.
Pretty and Talent
Now if he said beyonce couldnt it would have been cool but can’t sing somebody needs to put him in an old folks home
Wow. I had no idea Beyonces fan base was so detached from reality.
Says the Rihanna fan.
KEEP THE CARIBBEAN QUEEN, ON YA MIND FOOL! CHANGE THAT PIC, IT LOOKS F***** STUPID, LIKE YUH LAME ASS COMMENTS ON RIRI.
Did you just call Malcom X stupid? B**** you deserve to be lynched from a tree. Don’t ever disrespect any of our black forefathers like that. Oh, and F*** Rihanna. How bout dat?
Its Malcom X, but I wouldn’t expect your dumb rihtardass to know that
Ignorance at its finest. When did I ever say I was a Rihanna fan?
LOL THE BUGS HAVE BEEN SEETHING AMD CRYING ALL WEEK LMAO
some of you Beyonce haters will justify anything and just can’t accept that a pretty girl can sing. This mans face looks like the surface of the moon.
LET HER TAKE OUT THAT WEAVE AND YOU WILL SEE THE TRU FUGLINESS, OF BEYSURGICAL. ADELE IS NATURALLY BEAUTIFUL, DESPITE BEING PLUMP. THE WORLD, THE GRAMMY VIP’S AND THE LEGENDS, HAVE SPOKEN! VEGAS FOR THIS FAKE SOUL SELLING CLOWN IN 2020.
Girl you just described the ugliness that is your mother, that ugliness which was unfortunately passed down to you. Now stop projecting.
Don’t you ever @ me…
This got nasty real quick.
Well if this isn’t Karma, all the years of calling Rihanna a model with a mic, now respected musicians are calling Beyonce that. Lol #PoorBeyHive
Hahaha. Like how the Navy called Beyonce local all these years.
South Korean Best Selling International Album 2016
25. Lemonade Beyonce
N/A Anti – “Global Superstar
Australian Album Chart 2016 Best Sellers
3. Lemonade
Not in the top 10 Anti- Global Superstar
IFPI Top Recording Artist
7. Localyonce
8. Global Superstar (with streams, WW singles, 89292020 features)
FWT 256 M
AWT (soon a clown named Lady Gaga will easily outgross this)
He can have an opinion nothing wrong with that but there is a difference between an opinion and s*** talking is all I mean. He making it seem like she sweating over a Grammy people have gotten that she been out sold a longtime ago.
LMAO, everybody and they mama (beside bey haters) know that Bey is one of the greatest vocalists in music and of all time. She has countless reciepts; youtube “Beyonce greatest vocalist of our generation”. Sorry but Adele cant compete and even she knows that..
You can YouTube Ariana greatest vocalist, Christina greatest vocalist, hell – Jessica Simpson greatest vocalist. As if YouTube wasn’t full of Stan s***
The fact is, the video showcases her vocal talent which people for some reason are starting to diminish/ underrate. The chick is a BEAST and honestly doesn’t get as much praise for her vocal skills as she SHOULD.
What did TGJ do with the likes. If it’s a good comment about Beyonce, it would almost double the likes, but if it’s bad and you like it, it’ll give it 2-3 ups and 1 down haha. Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think she can sang, but Simon Cowell has said what Carlos has said in the past. His opinion
People hate beyonce because she is so private and you don’t know anything about her he probably wants to make a song with her
But did he lie? YES ABSO-FUKING-LUTELY
Bye
I think he was saying that Carlos absolutely lied..
Hahaha. Like how the Navy called Beyonce local all these years.
South Korean Best Selling International Album 2016
25. Lemonade Beyonce
N/A Anti – “Global Superstar
Australian Album Chart 2016 Best Sellers
3. Lemonade
Not in the top 10 Anti- Global Superstar
IFPI Top Recording Artist
7. Localyonce
8. Global Superstar (with streams, WW singles, 89292020 features)
FWT 256 M
AWT (soon a clown named Lady Gaga will easily outgross this)
Best selling in foreign countries should not get you excited. They do not buy much e.g Australia, Ireland.
No wonder The Most Anticipated Album Of 2016 can only nominated for Best Album Packaging which she didnt win either. Thanks for explaining this. I guess now I know why Aaliyah never had one (@Mark111, dont be sad).
Ps. I won’t be suprise if Joanne won AOTY next year.
Technical wise Bey got vocal chops. Well practiced and trained to the point where she transitioned her vocal style from first only R&B to a more edgy sound where she can add Rock & pop elements as well as emotional pained expressions (I care, Sandcastles, 1+1 etc..)
I think with Bey its just more a tonal thing. Many love, many like it and others not keen.
From stans I know they love her to DEATH but prefer her “speechless, yes, temptation, brown eyes” type of vocal she used to bring. The woman had to evolve it though to keep high level of relevance.
Bey needs her “heal the world” moment and think make the effort to promote her next project.
Her tone was very light in her early career but naturally darkened with age. People mistake this as her “not being all that” and shít but she technically only progresses vocal-wise with age. She can hit all the notes she was able to 15 years ago, her voice is just darker and she doesn’t showcase her out of the world vocals in her music these days. She just needs another “Resentment, Dangerously in Love, Listen, I Care” for people to be reminded.
No lies told by Carlos.
Whöreyonce needs to jump off a cliff. Along with her ugly daughter
Rot and fester in hell you disgusting attention seeking sad sack of human s*** ??????????
Stop with the ? s***. It’s embarrassing, especially as it is mostly coming from grown ass men an women
Nope. Your mother’s already there.
Really “your mother” responses? You’re 12? I always knew the beyhive consists majorly of mentally disabled people and you just proved my point
Thats obviously not a hive member dumbass..
Get out!!!!!
Ok I think he’s being unfair by saying all Beyoncé is is a stage performer. She can sing and when she isn’t shouting and screaming she has a decent voice. She’s a good singer but she isn’t a great singer, far from it. Her voice has been over hyped by her fans. As for why she didn’t win the big awards at the Grammies. Her album was too controversial to win in the majors catagories. Anyhow she’s been over awarded in the past so she’ll have to make do with 3 this time round.
Actually, I get his point. Though he wasn’t correct with the model thing, he is correct that Beyoncé is not on an Adele level when it comes to singing. She def can sing very good, but she neither is THAT voice or the major singer. Beyoncé is not on Aretha’s, adele’s, Whitney’s or Mariah’s level. I always see her more as a performer and entertainer than a real singer
Where would beyonce be without autotune and pre-recorded tracks even on stage?
Beyonce doesn’t use auto tune and many vocalists have pre recorded tracks stop hating.
This is ridiculous it doesn’t even need justifying. Only Beyonce haters will yap around kii kiing to this stupidity.
But I agree with him that she is beautiful to look at though ?
Buffaloncé is NOT a vocalist.
She’s a great performer, yes, but vocalist? NOPE
Anyone can be a performer, not everyone can be a vocalist though.
I stan for one of the greatest vocalists of all time and even I can see if Beyonce is not a vocalist then I don’t know what is. Her vocal ability is fantastic. She has so much talent with her vocals it actually gets overshadowed by her amazing performances. I suggest you do a bit more research.
And no not anyone can be a performer. What a stupid statement. My own favorite isn’t a great performer.
Beyonces vocal prowess definitely puts in the class of a great vocalist. You don’t have to be Whitney or Mariah to be classed as a vocalist. But Beyoncé can do A LOT with her voice that people who aren’t fans of hers don’t always choose to recognise. You might not like her voice but ability is undeniable. I’m sorry but the girl can emulate instruments with her voice. And if she wasn’t a vocalist, she wouldn’t be inspiring people like Adele and other great singers in the first place.
Watch Whitney sing then Beyonce. That solves this vocalist argument.
I agree with him.
No one can be Whitney but Whitney so you sound stupid.
The word out on the street is, he made a pass at Bey after there performance together a couple of years back, she respectively declined, and he has been seething ever since. “Fyi, he loves black women. Married and divorced to one, and is currently married to a black woman now”. So the rejection has him reeling.
HE RIGHT BEYONCE CAN’T SING FOR CRAP!!!!
Let’s be realistic he told the truth, Beyoncé is a good performer. She is not known for great vocals, Adele is known for vocals and is not a performer. People need to get out of their feelings and be realistic.
‘She is not known for great vocals’ she is though…
She is not. Great vocals are Mariah, Aretha, Whitney, Adele etc. Beyoncé can sing, is she great no. Good performer absolutely. Some of you all just are in your feelings and are shaded by your delusional minds. It’s ok
Come down people Mr. Santana is entitled to his opinion just like the rest of us. Honestly these past two eras in the Beyoncé discography has been mostly about the visual art rather than the actual singing. I see that most fans of Beyoncé prefer the show girl act because when 4 came out many fans did not support said album as they have some of the others with the dance anthems. 4 was mostly ballads and it did quite well but not to B’s standard so she went back to the dance anthems her fans expect from her.. Just like I ASF radio leaned towards the hood/ dance anthems opposed to the ballad side. All in all Beyoncé is a great entertainer but she has become more known for her visual nowadays opposed to her actual singing.
I agree and whats amazing about Beyonce is she has even us so much singing before that I actually like that she is now experiment with he already certified voice, She damn near sang Celine Dion under the water lol look it up
Whilst it may be harsh, there is some truth to it. I considered Kelly Rowland to be the “singer, SANAGER” of DC. Beyonce can sing but something about her voice isn’t at the same lane as your Alicia Keys, Mariah, Whitney, Patti, Brandy etc… I can’t stand when she sings ballads…She’s boring without the theatrics. Huge respect for her but sorry, there is some truth here
Alicia Keys? Really. She has absolutely no range and flat vocals. I’m starting to think you are the same person that’s posted the last 5 comments.
LMAOO @Alicia Cant-find-a-key, Brandy,-and Kelly. Yall are honestly underrating tf out of Beyoncé vocals. Yall mfs just dont know
Kiii it’s a joke
??? he said Alicia Keys, Kelly and Brandy. Whatever you are smoking, please lay off of it.
LMAO Beyonce is one of the greatest female vocalists of this generation. Yall on some delusional ish saying she ain’t. He’s probably only ever listened to her songs like single ladies
I feel sorry for your generation if beyonce is the best you have vocally.
I feel sorry for your ignorance on Beyonces vocals and I know many professionals would agree. Makes you look kinda stupid.
That screaming cow you Stan for can’t sing, can’t dance, can’t act, can’t sell singles or albums.Bitchyonce is an overrated has been with ghetto gays as fans.Adele ended that tramp.
the b*tch cant sing, bottom line. the h**+ can stay in their feelings for the rest of their lives, its the TRUTH.
Shut up h**. It’s not only Hive in here. You’re a dumb ass hating Rihanna stan.
You stan Dicki Garbaj, ugly, untalented, fake, plastic flop h**.
Literally rolling my eyes right now. Why does Beyonce get all this hate? And Adele might produce more bland/universal music than Beyonce, but let’s not get that confused with singing abilities. Beyonce will out sing Adele any day of the week. Beyonce can sing Hello, Adele CANNOT sing Love On Top
I think beyonce is a superb vocalist, but her vocals can be appreciated better by the black community who are into the dramatic style of singing. The white audience appreciate poetry and emotion more than they do powerful vocals. Beyonce is neither poetic or emotional when she sings, but she most certainly can blow you off your chair. White people are more likely to think rihanna is a better vocalist simply because she has a unique tone and can be emotional (love on the brain/stay). Beyonce has great technique. Shes not sensual. Shes no Sade, she has no orgasmic tone. Can she do a ballad in just low register and stil slay it? Beyonce also doesnt have good songs, so its easy to sleep on her vocals. She lacks that one song that while still mainstream and single-worthy showcases her vocals quite well. She needs her ‘i will always love you’kind of song. But she no longer cares about being a vocalist,seeing shes now a full time performer.
I think beyonce is a superb vocalist, but her vocals can be appreciated better by the black community who are into the dramatic style of singing. The white audience appreciate poetry and emotion more than they do powerful vocals. Beyonce is neither poetic or emotional when she sings, but she most certainly can blow you off your chair. White people are more likely to think rihanna is a better vocalist simply because she has a unique tone and can be emotional (love on the brain/stay).
That’s true, Madonna could be another example, I like her voice/music much more than that of great vocalist like Whitney or Mariah, I know they are vocally superior but there’s something emotional about Madonna’s voice when she sings a ballad, Rihanna, Madonna, Lana Del Rey are more into how they make you feel while listening to a song, while Vocalist like Mariah are more into giving us high notes, I have always said that, glad I’m not the only one that thinks this way, but at the end of the day, it’s all about preference.
I completely agree with the argument except the part where you make it into a black or white thing. I’m not saying you are wrong, I’m just not ready for it to be said so point blank.??
That person has a point but it doesn’t need to be divided into race a lot of black people prefer the way Janet or Aaliyah sing to say Beyonce or Jennifer Hudson. And to say Whitney is more about hitting the high notes when she sings is ridulous. She was raised with gospel are vocals are ALL emotional. Her soft vocals make me want to cry. The others (Madonna, Lana etc) can’t hit those notes so don’t have much option.
I take the last part back I realise you didn’t mention Whitney just Mariah. Which I understand more.
I’m not into the all the Beyonce hype and I think the Beehive as crazy as f***.
but this man is crazy Beyonce can blow.
and she didn’t win those Grammys because Adele had a better year and the better album in my opinion
LMAO at this here Tea Frog!
Poor Carlos doesn’t know the difference in sing sing and sang sang! LMAO
See Beyonce can actually sing sing….Which is where the confusion is…..
Now Adele can sang sang!!!! There is a difference.
(Yes it is!)
Not to say that is why Adele always wins the Top Grammy….Beyonce is sitting pretty with several Grammy trophies. She should be happy she managed to do what Diana Ross and Janet Jackson couldn’t. (No T No Shade…)
But we all know the people who can sang sang…
(i.e. Aretha, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, KeKe Wyatt, Jennifer Hudson, Fantasia, Jazmine Sullivan, Rachelle Ferrell, Adele)
~ Be pressed like a Panini!!!
I am so sorry to not include mutha…..Ms. Patti Labelle we all know she can sang sang!!!!
Oh wow I didn´t expect such situation to happen. Although to be honest, this is once again taken out of proportion by fanboys, including TGJ´s misleading headline. If you want to, you can TOTALLY understand what Carlos Santana is saying. He is only giving his opinion on why Beyonce didn´t win. I´m sure he appreciates Beyonce´s talent.
There´s no doubt about one thing: when it comes to recognition and grammys (at least how they were when they had credibility) they (and the general public) go crazy when you are able to MOVE people, sell millions and sustain a career based on MUSIC (meaning singing and/or songwriting) ALONE. That´s the type of bish Adele is. And yes the type of bishes Mariah, Whitney, Celine and the many artists who have won (or didn´t but had a good chance at winning big at the grammys) are in general.
I don´t get why stans have to get SO mad everytime someone speaks. One has to get over the fact Beyonce is known FIRST for being a performer. No matter if she can also sing. Same way, as a Mariah Carey fan, I have to get over the fact Mariah is known FIRST for her voice (which is what Carlos is saying), no matter how good her songwriting also is.
Also, I know it is a matter of preference to some point, but some Beyonce fans need to really stop the delusion they live in once and for all, and stop saying she is one of the greatest vocalists ever. I mean… just no. She has great technique, and she has worked to achieve that. But her voice is not the type that moves people universally. It moves her fans, nobody else. Her tone is not special. Like others have said in this post: she is no Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey, as proved by the fact people don´t care about seeing her just standing on a stage just singing. Nobody is here for that. And it is for a reason. It would be boring (for her non-fans).
Last but not least: you want to talk about something disrespectful? Adele´s speech at the grammys was way way way more disrespectful than Carlos Santana´s words. She literally humilliated the rest of the nominees, except for Beyonce. I know she didn´t do it on purpose. But it was hard to watch. I have NEVER seen anyone acknowledging a fellow nominee like that while ignoring the rest. It was awful. I remember perfectly how when U2 won in 2006 Bono had words for all the rest. If you are going to praise the rest, then do it with all of them, if only out of respect. If not, shup up and don´t ruin your own moment of glory.
To insuate she is just aesthetically pleasing is a huge insult to this womans talent. Im no stan but Beyonce is a great vocalist. Not everyone can be Whitney Houston but there is no denying Beyonces talent with her voice. Look how many people try to sing her songs and look up to her as a voccalist. And you know what makes Beyonce special is her ability to do it all. It’s very rare that you get such an epic performer like Beyonce who is also able to deliver amazing vocals. That’s why people don’t like admitting she is a great vocalist as well as a performer. It’s very rare someone can do both.
The fact that Adele can get away two flat performances in one night and has proved she is not a great live singer and still get so much praise baffles me. And Beyonce gives a vocally flawless performance whilst heavily pregnant with twins and people are going around making absurd comments about her talent. It’s quite disturbing the way people become so biased.
FACTS!!!
Lmfao..is the man serious beyonce is a vocalist and has techniques that are hard to match….to have an opinion about vocals know what that is and understand yelling and whispering is not sanging…i died and had to come back and read his commments…beyonce is definitely one of the best…and her voice gets better not all cracked up like some of the favorites…..Britney tats a non singer…ciara shes a non sanger…rihanna thats a non Sanger..not say these women cant sing..but sang..nawl….BEYONCE BRANDY FANTASIA JENNEIFER JAZMINE MONICA JILL EVEN MELANIE FIONA THOSE ARE SANGERS….
The Dementia Carlos is experiencing in his old age, he must truely confused Rihanna with Beyoncé there is only one model with a mic! I’m so mad I’m going to drive to my mums house and break my Santana cd. Fix it Jesus! Lemme put two bees on his Instagram , idiota did he not see kid rocks Instagram!
Ain’t nobody the greatest Singer in the music business
Carlos is entitled to his views just like everyone else. No need to beat someone up just because they have a different view than you. En Vogue can sing, Jen Hud can sing, Chaka Khan can sing. Beyoncé, uhhhh, she’s OK.