Wow, a lot of haters posting about a band who will obviously suck on more juice than all the haters combined could EVER imagine getting their hands on. You know, when you profess you insecurities, ie. hate replies, you just show how truly insignificant you are, and how monumental they have the opportunity to become. That and Karma has a way of repaying for your kindness or lack thereof. What I mean to say is, if you don't have anything nice to say, then just stfu stupid, and let those who actually like the band give their two cents worth.