This week’s selection for From The Vault comes from Beyonce. ‘Work It Out’ served as the lead single from the ‘Austin Power in Goldmember’ film and was one of the singer’s first major attempts at solo success. However, despite the Tina Turner-inspired setup of the Mathew Rolsten-directed clip, and respectable promotion from her label, the song failed to enter the Billboard Hot 100.
By comparison, Beyonce’s bandmate Kelly Rowland’s duet with Nelly, ‘Dilemma’, was #1 on that tally for 10 weeks, initially climbing to the top spot without promotion and even before a music video has released.
Judging by the large disparity between the success of ‘Work It Out’ and ‘Dilemma’, it is quite puzzling that Beyonce’s label continued to focus on forging her solo career while almost ignoring Rowland altogether. In fact, it seems that Mathew Knowles ensured that his daughter’s first solo album, ‘Dangerously In Love’, was equipped with several of the industry’s then heavyweight producers whereas Rowland was given many of her leftovers.
Certainly this scenario provides ample evidence of the politics occurring behind the scenes at the Knowles camp. Indeed, why would they continue to emphasise only Beyonce’s endeavours but overlook Rowland who was, at that time, the more commercially viable act?
Imagine the kind of career that both artists would have had if given equal opportunities. Then again, they shoulda would coulda but didn’t. O well.
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sorry but i would’ve worked hard as f*** on my daughter’s career too. I mean, it’s my daughter!
Do you really believe they Kelly could have been a the same level as Beyonce if they were given the same treatment?
Kelly seems to be getting that treatment now…and she still ain’t going nowhere…. not in the US at least
yeahh this song didn’t do so well but it was mainly promo for Goldmember, not her album… and “movie songs” don’t usually do that well on charts. uhmmmmm “Crazy in Love” anyone? from what i remember, that was a HUGE hit (and i’m pretty sure that song came out before “Work it Out”)… and like the first person said, Beyonce is Mathew’s daughter. why would he focus on Kelly’s career more than hers? now that Kelly has moved on to other management, there should be no excuse as to why she hasn’t had another hit record. and i love Kelly but i’m just sayin…. no need for the Beyonce shade.
I don’t agree about if they were given an equal amount of promo, good songs etc. Kelly would be at the same level as Beyonce or close. The proof is in the pudding and Kelly just cannot deliver. Yes Dilemma was a smash, but it was also because of the Sample..Nelly was HUGE back then and it was a summer-time song. Work It OUt was a soundtrack single (see: Mariah’s fav Glitter excuse: “It wasn’t even a real album”) so Beyonce gets a pass…Kelly’s was her FIRST OFFICIAL RELEASE.
Plus Kelly fails at a live performance. The vocals are always thin, dry and lifeless and she never quite hits the note, she DOESN’T dance and theres no presence. Beyonce is a BEAST on stage, plus she can dance and gives life in videos.
Kelly just doesn’t have it. Never has. Never could. Never will. I do like Commander tho, but look how she dropped the ball on that. When Commander came out, everyone was hype. That fizzled so fast.
I remember Beyonce’s cd being pushed back almost three times, before they got it right.
And people clown other artist for pushbacks. And I’ll never forget Kelly Rowland in a saying in a European interview that promotion was “dialed down” on her cd for Beyonce’s debut.
This was sad because Kelly was making a statement in the UK with her debut.
And correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Dilemma NELLY’s single with Kelly being the featured artist singing the hook and bridge. IF so that means the song was Marketed moreso under Nelly who was about the hottest rapper in 2001/2002…
It wasn’t like it was a solo track with just Kelly was the focus. Nelly was the focus. d
Work it out is one of my favorite beyonce songs!
Trent STFU! They wasn’t even working on Kelly cd when Dilemma first came out, but since the song was a hit they rushed to get her a cd because of the success of the single! Stop trying to blame everyone else for Kelly not being as big as she could’ve been! People in the U.S. didn’t buy her album! It’s not Beyonce or Matthew’s fault!
@SUBLIME00, you are wrong.
At that time Matthew wanted Kelly to do alternative R&B so DC’s solo careers wouldn’t compete. In the Simply Deeps U.S. reviews, many complained about how it was going to be marketed because the cd was all over the place.
THE REAL REASON: It would have cost a LOT of money to promote Kelly Rowland as an R&B artist. She would have done successfuly, just like Ashanti (who lacked the voice and stage material) with strong r&b material. She could have had that with her debut, but it would have COST MONEY because r&b/hip-hop producers and promotion was very expensive back then.
Kelly and Michelle were thrown out to cheaper markets because the CASH RESERVE was for BEYONCE.
SORRY! That’s the truth!
infact the best thing done from k.row has been leaving mathhew Knowles management!!!!
I love kelly but hummm when will you guys stop blaming bee for her (kelly) lack of succes .
she needs to try harder end of the story
MUZIKFREAK! it did make Matthew’s team rush to release Kelly’s cd, but why do alternative r&B. Why couldn’t it have been a standard r&b cd like hits Separated and Delimma.
It’s because being an r&b artist then was super expensive, and that money was reserved for Beyonce. She got pushed back and not rushed. She wasn’t rushed with Bonnie & Clyde–a moderate hit. It was about setting up BEYONCE.
Beyonce is NOT the reason for Kelly’s career failure.
It’s a combination of things, but politics and money played a part, and Beyonce was a bigger investment.
TINA TURNER WANNABEE IN THIS VIDEO
b*******…..kelly cant sing like beyonce….doesnt have the stage presence of beyonce….cant dance like beyonce ….cant write like beyonce…cant co produce like beyonce and just all out doesnt not have the beyonce genious.
Beyonce is the leading female artist of this generation with Mariah being the one of the last generation….Kelly Rowland isnt even top 50!!
Beside Lady Gaga,
I’m so surprised at how people give Beyonce credit as the originator, but her career has been a pop off of others.
DC Era – Diana Ross
Work It Out / Austin Powers Era- Tina Turner
Dangerously In Love Era – Jennifer Lopez
I think close to the middle of B-Day era is when Beyonce came into her own, slightly getting inspired by others. Well, at least she came into her own.
THATS THE TRUTH RIGHT THERE ON TRENTS POST!!!!!!!!
Mathhew Knwoles sabotaged Kellys career to upgrade Beyonces. TRUTH.
Work it out was a MASSIVE flop. TRUTH
Kelly was doing it BIG with Dilemma. TRUTH.
SUddenly the label shifted interest from the huge hitmaker Kelly to Beyonce flopping AND thats how she (beyoce) dropped Crazy in love and even had to get jigga on board to make it a hit.
SMH!
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Support Ms Kelly Rowland!
Kelly rowland s fans (like I am) need to stop blaming Beyonce or Matthew for the lack of sucess.She did a lot of video:Stole,Nobody want …,Dilemma and all that prior beyonce ‘s album release
Again,Miss Kelly got a lot of videos:Daylight,Ghetto with Snoop,comeback,Work,Like this (with eve),…But she wasnt able to sell albums with all the videos matthew paid for her.In comparaison,Christina Milian sold more with her ‘So amazin’ album and only ‘Say I(as single & video) by the time.
Stop blamin beyoncé for her failure when beyonce give them (kelly and solange) a chance to shine during her Get me bodied performance at the BET Awards.
To quote Nicki:Is this the thanks that I get for puttin’ you b****** on?
ONE CHILD, Ashanti couldn’t do any of those things, and she was slaying Beyonce in the DIL era, and if wasn’t for the Murder Inc drama—Shanti would have been the “Rihanna” of r&b—not a singer nor dancer nor performer with hit songs.
Let me leave this forum. You all see I’m a Kelly fan.
WHAT ABOUT ABOUT KELLY’S STOLE WHAT WAS THAT A MASSIVE FLOP! KELLY WILL NEVER BE BEYONCE NEVER SORRY YOU GIRLS JUST NEED TO DEAL
How some dumbass gonna say Bey took inspiration from J.Lo when she can’t sing A F****** LICK!?!? #BYEHO
SparkD
WHAT? DIL KILLED ASHANTI’S CAREER LMAO!
LMAO @ BLASIAN
TRENT HAS A POINT
BEYONCE HAS NO SONG ON THE TOP 200 SONGS OF ALL TIME HAHAHAH
KELLY HAS ONE LMAO!
FIRST OF ALL TRENT KELLY ROWLAND ALBUM CAME OUT WAY BEFORE BEYONCE’S DIL DID KELLY’S ALBUM WAS RELEASED IN OCT. 2002 BEYONCE WAS RELEASED IN JUNE 2003 SO HOW DID KELLY GET THE LEFT OVERS HER ALBUM WAS ALREADY DONE
@CARL (Why did I come back to this thread)
You must be 10 years old. Jennifer Lopez was the hottest artist of her era merging movies, movies, media, dating big name rapper/celeb, and personal branding (fashion line, brading the a**) during her time.
The Dangerously In Love era took Jennifer Lopez’s career template. Even Beyonce’s styling was very similar to Jennifer Lopez…the record magazine covers, endorsement, co-release of movies with singles…that whole ERA came out the Jennifer Lopez play book. Do your research?
It’s funny, someone said Jennifer Lopez was copying Beyonce, and then I had to show them Puffy’s video with Jennifer Lopez serving the people.
NICKY
YOU WORRY ABOUT RIHANNA AND THAT F***’D UP PERFORMANCE LMAO!
WHAT SHE DO HAVE SONG OF THE YEAR GRAMMY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
BEYONCE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KELLY ROWLAND
@Blasian, Ashanti second cd sold more the first week, and her promotion died due to the Murder Inc scandal. Beyonce underperformed with the amount of promotion on her debut, but still has the “machine” running.
@Blasian Matthew Knowles wanted Kelly Rowland to do alternative r&b—like a black girl Lenny Kravitz. This was $$$ move because if Kelly was a full-time r&b artist, it would have been more expensive (producers)
@Blasian Kelly’s debut was rushed out due to Nelly’s single. Beyonce’s cd was pushed back 3 times.
SparkD
NOTING ABOUT DIL WAS JLO FIRST OF ALL BEYONCE CAN SING 2ND BEYONCE CAN SING NO ONE PERFORMS LIKE HER NOT ONE.
LAST TIME I CHICKED J.LO DIDN’T WIN 5 GRAMMYS IN ONE NIGHT
LMAO @ BLASIAN
HUNNY WE ALL KNOW MATTHEW KNOWLES PURCHASED THAT GRAMMY THE SAME WAY HE STEALS SONGWRITING CREDITS
AND GETS SUED MULTIPLE TIMES…..
*GIGGLES*
I JUST CANT
Heavyweights ? Eve,Nelly,Snoop Dog are heavy weights artists !!
Dead @ Trent dissing beyonce’s videos,callin them cheap one day and sayin that the label focus on her the next day. Jealousy much !
Correction: @Blasian – Beyonce underperformed her first week of DIL release. But her cd sold well—with the continuous machine.
One of my favorite Beyonce tracks. Her voice + Funk = A match made in Heaven.
LOL @ Trent http://www.stan-wars.com/mediawiki/images/trey_songz_cmon_son.gif
I guess when things don’t go your way, just blame it on Beyonce.
@Blasian AGAIN!
Matthew was smart enough to know that Beyonce could SING, because she followed the Jennifer Lopez career template, this was her strength over J.Lo.
I always said, Beyonce was the beginning of the end of J.Lo’s music career in the U.S. Once Bennifer was done, the media moved on to Beyonce.
SparkD
Ashanti album C2 came out a weel later after Beyonce’s ablum, Beyonce keep coming with those hits and those AMAZING PERFORMANCE Crazy In Love,Baby Boy, Me,Myself and I & N Girl, DIL was never pushed back it was pushed up the album was going to come out in July but came out in June No ur facts dear
Beyonce Kicked ashanti ass in everything every award show
Here’s one of them lmao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9MhZu7RPTQ
NICKY
YEAH MAT WAS ON THE GRAMMY VOTING TIME RIGHT ALONG WITH THE REST 105 VOTERS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I CAN’T AT RIHANNA’S PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT SHE STILL SUCKS LIKE ALWAYS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@Blasian, because you lack research I’ll end this back-and-forth.
Ashanti even jumped off her tour to promote 2nd cd because of the surprise of its sales. Because of the Murder Inc. situation, even Ashanti’s team thought her cd would fail sooner. Her promotion didn’t have legs to it like Beyonce’s promotion.
What Beyonce had over Ashanti & Jennifer Lopez, who were SUPER HOT a minute early was her voice?
SparkD
DIL sold over 317,000 in the first week #1 album which I might add she became the First and only woman to have a single and album simultaneously topping the main charts in both the U.S. and the UK (2003).
oh please trent kelly flops has nothing to do with beyonce i am sorry but kelly don’t have the IT factor and the same pepole worked with beyonce on dil worked with kelly the same promo same everything its just that beyonce have extra something and she know what shes doing know how she want her music to sound unlike kelly she don’t know who she really is musicly i guess she finaly did now,kelly fans need to stop blaming beyonce/matthew/label its just kelly i mean look at her now she blowed her chance to be great and big and whos to blamed now beyonce right
SparkD
Don’t give me that B.S Ashanti and J.LO were HOT until Ms.Beyonce set the game on fire and she still is now where’s Ashanti and J.LO now ? That’s right Beyonce did that
While Beyonce Single was #1 so was her album, While Ashanti’s album was #1 Crazy In Love was #1 lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Blasian That 317,000 was underperforming for the amount of initial promotion. It’s great her label stood behind her.
@Blasian, now I will official leave the thread.
You are start to repeat what I just said. Buh-bye.
Truth is truth. Bee has talent and was set up right.
Wow I never post…but the sole purpose of this post was to subtly dog Beyonce…SMH
It’s too much sometimes…
SparkD
That wasn’t no underperforming amount, for a new solo artist it could’ve worked 2 ways Beyonce made it big or a flop and well all know how that turned out, just Because she was in Destiny’s Child didn’t mean anything i.e Kelly & Michelle. Ashanti only sold 326,000 in first week with someone coming off an album that sold over 6 million copies and had all these hits she had more to live up to than Beyonce
I have to disagree, I don’t like Beyonce and I think kelly has a better voice overall then bee, and I want kelly to blow up here in america. But kelly first single was a huge hit, but it was a collob with nelly, much like bee crazy in love with Jay z.. work it out was asound track, the label new they had crazy in love. Plus vocaly live kelly kept being nervous not owning the live performances. you know. Bee is a better entertainer, the confidence sell her everytime. kelly was a late blommer. Not it’s fair game kelly is huge all over the world and I think if they can get right with promo kelly will take over america
SparkD
You need to leave because you sound dumb
@ONE CHILD, Ok imma need you to stop before this sentence starts: .doesnt have the stage presence of beyonce….cant dance like beyonce ….cant write like beyonce…cant co produce like beyonce and just all out doesnt not have the beyonce genious. & WRITE?! O_O *Hugest blank stare ever* Co-produced O_o, r u on meth? Anyway the point is Nelly & Kelly both we’re on the song & it went #1 & Beyonce completely flopped. That #1 hit goes under Nelly & Kelly’s name. Kelly should’ve got the V.I.P. treatment because of her laptop because of that. Instead they shaded her for Beyonce.
Kelly single STOLE floppped like crazy right along with her ALBUM
UMM J.LO HAS NEVERRRRRRRRRRRR AND WILL NEVERRRRRRR MAKE THE CULTURAL IMPACT BEY DID AND HAS!!!! WHEN U EVER SEE J.LO DANCING IN THE HOOD WITH GIRLS IN THE STREET, WHEN U SEE J.LO GOING TO A SICK HOSPITAL TO SING TO KIDS IN HER SPARE TIME? NEVER! COS J.LO IS A STUCK UP RUDE B**** AND U CAN SEE SHE IS NOT A NICE PERSON, WHEN J.LO’S PEERS EVER PRAISE HER #WAITSUNTILTHEENDOFTIME.
Beyonce Bottoms up verse
Yo, could I get that Hit?
Could I get that 80 milli?
Could I get that Oscar?
Could I get that Grammy?
Could I get that latina’s career under a rock back to the block block ?
Could I get that sasha ousthine your lame ass ass ass?
Jay, I was like “Yo Jay”
Do you think you could buy me a ring with ri-hanna money’?
Okay, lets get it now
I’m the queen,You love my ass and my lacefrong wig
I don’t say “Hi”, I say ” I am …a legend in a makin’ ”
in the making? My destiny since I was a child
Muhfuckin right yeah, since the girls time
If a b**** try me,I’ll release a random song during her album release
Or start a new era and her album will be pushed back,pushed back,pushed back
Then again pushed back
^ LMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO #LEGENDRY!!!!
KAT DELUNA FAN
LOL!
This particular post is sickening. You are what’s wrong with the world, always spreading discord amongst people. You guys knew what you were doing in creating this post and if your intent was to garner more pub for you site then I hope it backfires. This is not the first time in which you guys have blatantly posted material to try and start mess. There is enough crap going on in the world for you guys to be doing this to Beyonce, Rihanna, Trey, the Pope, dang whoever. We are all human, we all make mistakes, we all have flaws, and we all have feelings. Next time, take the high road and be a site that is constructive on criticism and not merely a site that seeks to start arguments. I hope you prove me wrong but from experience I know that won’t happen. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I mean yall can say what yall want to, but vocally Bee is a BEAST.
Beyonce said that her label heard DIL and they didn’t think she had one hit.
Last thing, someone said that Kelly was given alternative/pop…the genre that sells the most. In the 90’s, pop artist were outselling r&b artist by a long shot….so Kelly didn’t get tossed under bus with that one.
And now, away from matty, she is doing pop/dance….sooooooooo……..
I love Kells, but Beyonce has a better voice. NO ONE can f*ck with Bee when it comes to live performances….Im sorry.
Trent actually has a point there hmm this has me thinking ……
Why are u even bringing this s*** up again. Oh yeah for f****** hits. Without Rihanna or Beyonce I don’t know what y’all will f****** do. Smh
Death a kat deluna Stan. I am dead. You my child deserve a Grammy. Hehe
Mr. T,
Alternative R&B is not pop, and that’s the genre Kelly was tossed in which didn’t exist, and music critics felt her cd didn’t have a specific market where it fit.
Her project was poorly aimed, rushed, and tossed aside. It happens. C’est la vie.
Its pathetic to see that people still blame beyonce for kelly’s “success” since dil debuted in 2003 hasn’t beyonce proved over and over again that she can hold her own? I don’t see mathew holding her hand on stage when she out performs (not just kelly who?) But every girl out there right now.
@trent
I for one like kelly but ur pathetic attempts of trying to make beyonce look bad just make some of us realize it was a good call for daddy to put his daughter first.
he believed in his daughters talent and its paying off and going to continue doing so
Stay mad!
Kat duluna girl bye!
WAIT….did someone say that they modeled DIL after J.LO…..WTF????
Please explain…other than the fact that these two artist kinda favor, I see NOOOOO similarities
‘Work it Out’ didn’t do well because first off it is was for a movie.
Second off it wasn’t a relevant song. It was too old school.
@Sparkd
CIL, the first single wasn’t even promoted that much. beyonce did a couple of shows to promote it but it wasn’t all out. When Crazy in love went #1 that is when they start promoting the hell out of DIL.
@Dave
Not so much now, but Beyonce co produced and co write most of the songs from DC and DIL. Many producers have complimented her for having a good ear. Prince even said he was surprised that she knew about egyptian scales and what not.
But anyways Trent are you Mad?
We all know how shady the knowles are.
and for Matt to just choose one daugther over another 1, is sick as f***..
now, with all that aside. I dont think Kelly would have been as successful as beyonce, if she had given the same oportunities as bey bey.
I hate to say this, but beyonce has the it factor, when it comes to performing, u can tell the bish was made for it.
yes, her daddy paid for most of the grammys she has(since he is on the grammy board)
yes, beyonce stole other people s*** and get sues on the regular for stealling..
kelly has her chance right now, and she needs to step her game up
@NadJee
On what planet were you on when Crazy In Love was out? Primetime entertainment show publicized it, BET, MTV, local videos….and it got tons of radio promotion.
I even heard of her promotion campaign being moved from r&b to pop promotion at Columbia during the Crazy In Love era.
Kelly has her chance now. Stans get mobilized.
Rated X
October 31, 2010 at 5:11 pm
We all know how shady the knowles are.
and for Matt to just choose one daugther over another 1, is sick as f***..
now, with all that aside. I dont think Kelly would have been as successful as beyonce, if she had given the same oportunities as bey bey.
I hate to say this, but beyonce has the it factor, when it comes to performing, u can tell the bish was made for it.
yes, her daddy paid for most of the grammys she has(since he is on the grammy board)
yes, beyonce stole other people s*** and get sues on the regular for stealling..
kelly has her chance right now, and she needs to step her game up
(I agree 100%)
Trent, you hit the nail on the head with this post. Work It Out was not only the lead single for Austin Powers, it was the first single for Beyonce’s debut album. That is something people forget about. It was supposed to be Michelle, Beyonce, then Kelly releasing their albums in that order. Since Work It Out flopped and Kelly duet with Nelly was so successful, Kelly’s album was rushed to give Beyonce more time to revamp her debut album.
There’s a reason why Rihanna is successful and not Teairra Marie, her label saw an international market—and much of her promotion followed the “Beyonce playbook.”
Teairra was placed in a box, just like Kelly.
I DON’T THINK TRENT BLAMED BEYONCE AT ALL FOR KELLY’S CAREER. He blamed the politics, and Columbia’s effort to put more push behind Beyonce over everyone. Kelly and Beyonce were Columbia artists, and Michelle was with Music World.
Columbia chose not to spend R&B money on Kelly, and looped her around—while putting a full on commitment to Beyonce. MATTHEW IS THE BLAME FOR THAT STUPID “ALTERNATIVE R&B” move.
For Simply Deep to be a rushed effort that didn’t have a targeted audience, it still sold Gold, because people wanted to see her succeed and were expecting a cd full of “Delimma” songs.
If Columbia /Matt wanted to push an r&b audience pop, they could have modeled “Stole” as another “Waterfalls” and linked Kelly with a “anti-t*** violence” campaign. It’s not hard to do, even rushed. BUT, IT WOULD HAVE COST MONEY—-and that went to someone else.
*High-Fives Blasian and Carl* Smh @ the haters. why aren’t j.lo and Kelly slaying like bey then i mean if i’m not mistaken j.lo just hired bey’s team for her video
Internationally, J. Lo makes money from her brand alone. Interesting, how many articles talk about Beyonce and her “branding.” Hmmm….STOP MAKING IT A POOR BEYONCE POST WHEN PEOPLE ARE STATING FACTS.
The Skorpion
CHILD SHUT UP!
THEN WHY STOLE FLOPPED? HUH? TELL ME THAT
the moral of the story is…Beyonce started off a flop and will finish as one *watches Ride*
Please stop the madness bey’s albums didn’t purchase themselves! Why do people say Matthew bought her Grammys like she isn’t worthy of one stop trying to discredit her in order to make Kelly look like a charity case because Kelly is still making more money than most of yall could imagine
You people on this site are so dumb SMDH! With Kelly having a HUGE single with Nelly that’s more of a reason to put an album out you ever heard of the saying “HIT THE IRON WHILE IT’S HOT” So Mathew Knowles made a GREAT choice to drop Kelly’s Album to ride of the Success of ‘Dilemma’ any smart Manger or Record label would do that samething with a NEW solo Act . Dilemma was also Kelly’s first single and even after the success of Dilemma on October 28, 2002 Simply Deep was released and still came in at #12 on Billboard 200 album Chart. Kelly had a huge single and then she followed up with “STOLE” an Pop/Rock record which no one was feeling at that time in 2002 where RB& HIP HOP was the IT sound
I somehow believe if Delimma was Kelly’s song on its own, and not a Nelly duet (shared promotion), it would have flopped because she was handled so badly.
Do y’all remember after Work It Out flopped, how Naughty Girl was set to be one of her debut singles, but that changed?
Those of US who were DC stans back-in-the-day, have a memory.
Some idiots here like to hear the sound of their voice, with no understanding of the business and politics of the industry at that time.
IT WOULD HAVE COST A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY TO PROMOTE KELLY AS R&B ARTIST.
Kelly’s album wasn’t rushed she stated in the DC Book that she wanted to do an Alternative Pop/Rock album
Kelly Worked with Rich Harrison before Beyonce did “Can’t Nobody” guess what ANOTHER flop. Beyonce came out a killed it like her reocrd label said she didn’t have one hit off her album, coming off from a HUGE Pop album like Survivor but they was wrong she had 5.
@Blasian, I was as DC stan, I had the book too!
Do you really think a teenager knows what she wants? Do you think a teenager would say, “Hmm, my cd needs to be alternative r&b so I won’t compete with Beyonce & Michelle.”
That’s stupid. I didn’t know what the hell alternative R&B was until Matthew conjured up that mess!
@CiaraMedlies
You really got some Nerve Calling somebody a Flop when u stan for CIARA of all people. When was the last time she was on top again……? Oh Ok
And i think they pushed Kelly’s album out because dilemma was successful, I don’t feel like it had anything to do with Beyonce. And i’m a fan of both ladies. And i hate when people put them against each other. Its not Beyonce’s fault that she sells albums. When people look at a t.v. performance, or hear a song. They are the ones that say oh i like this, and they are the ones that will go out and buy the C.D. so instead of complaining about how much promo she got at that time and how much promo she got here. If kelly didnt like it she would of left then when all that happened. Kelly got a solo grammy before Beyonce and had a number 1 single before her and she performed on the grammy’s with Nelly she had promo at that time. Its her fans fault for not going out and buying her cd’s (I have all of her albums). I guess when theres no one to blame……. BLAME BEYONCE!!!!!
YOU BEE STANS ARE LIKE THE REPUBLICANS.
YOU CREATE AN ARGUMENT THAT WASN’T THERE. Trent, did NOT make this a BLAME BEYONCE post, you did!
SparkDSister
Yeah since the Book came out in 2002 as well EVERYTHING that each of them said they wanted to do as far the solo sound they did it Kelly Wanted The Pop Rock sound, Beyonce R&B Soul sound and Michelle Gospel
Trent yo ass is on some real ole bull S*!%! Get over it B is that ish and Kelendria aint, it is what it is. End of story! Gosh I know you like being an asshole because it gets even more hits on this site, but enough is enough. Sam you have a great blog site if not one of the best, but this off and on hatin on Beyonce and Rihanna is bogus. I always boycott your site because of this, and then come back in time to see if its changed but its always the same…. I’ll be back to tomorrow to see if there’s any new Beyonce news. You lucky you got one of the best music blogs on the internet…
SparkDSister
What do you mean you don’t know what alternative R&B is? It’s alternative with a lil R&B but Kelly’s ablum wasn’t that her album was
alternative Pop Rock which she stated that’s what she wanted to do
and then i ‘ve to mention that simply deep was done in 1 months just beacuse there was a conflict with Beyonce schedule.
Beyonce is by far the most talented woman(artist ) to sufrace this decade. She will go down in history as a legend! Period! Kelly Rowland is talented, but she’s lacking in so many areas as an artist. Her success wasn’t due to her own impact in the beginning. She was a house hold name because of Bey being the front woman in DC. She had a huge hit with Delimma because Nelly was the top rapper that year. Her parts could have been done by Amerie and that song would have seen the same success. Everyone keeps mentioning that Matthew wanted Kelly to do alternative music instead of R&B and it’s funny that she’s not doing that genre now. Whose twisting her arm this time – she’s not under Matthew’s management now! Kelly is all over the place with her image, music and stage presence! Kelly has been given multiple chances to produce hits. At the BET awards Beyonce performed first and let Kelly follow behind her as the grand finale when she was promoting “Like This”. Kelly looked stunning (and I rooted for her that night), but she dropped the ball. The energy that night collapsed when she took center stage. That right there was very telling, because their performances by comparison provided a clear indication of how these 2 women were in different leagues. You can’t make an singer a “superstar”. They have to possess a certain star quality all of their own! Kelly’s a singer, but she’ll never be a star.
@Blasian – change that to Matthew wanted that. I read the book, and no matter what lies are said, “alternative r&b” is not pop. Pop was Pink and Britney Spears, and that’s colossal promotion.
Do you know how much money would have been put on urban radio promotion for 3 Dilemma-like singles?
That’s why I’m convinced if Nelly didn’t put it out, it probably would have flopped under the “horribly handled Simply Deep project.”
Stans of Beyonce we understand Beyonce can sing circles around kellz but u have to admit that Columbia and Mathew had Beyonce with the biggest budget, ghost writers,creative team,marketing, endorsements etc..they didn’t want Kelly to blow up b4. Bey so they put alternative s*** in her head to make her think it was hot,it was hot for avril not Kelly…remind u Kelly stated in multiple interviews that she wasn’t as secure and demanding as she is today. .so she’s has some blame too . …my question how are u gonna have a hot rnb single but go rock? Matthew ? His plan was to distract the urban and pop audiences from Kelly so that Bey could Garner the attention first that’s why the public became uninterested with what Kelly had to offer as a solo artist. When Ms Kelly dropped….. because Bey went back to the drawing board on DIL they knew what the public wanted from the flop of Kelly’s Simply deep …if Rihanna can go head to head with Bey so can Kelly. ….point blank Matthew and Columbia sabotaged that from even happening…its a cold industry and world
SparkDSister
Kelly Will tell you herself that’s the sound she wanted to go for not only that was her look in Destiny’s Child around the Suvivor Era The Pop Rock Chick
, Not only that She reached out to Brandy and her Husband to write a song fro her. After the Success with Nelly her album still flopped so don’t give me that BULL s***!
FOR REAL FOR THE SONG WOULD’VE BEEN BIG IF KELLY WASN’T ON IT,
THIS WAS WHEN NELLY WAS HOT NOT KELLY
SohhJavier
Kelly woked with the People Beyonce did , It’s Kelly FAULT she didn’t take control over her Career she didn’t find a GREAT A&R person you can’t blame Matthew K he works for Kelly she doesn’t work for him
*worked
If anything Columbia Records put Beyonce on hold and Gave Kelly the time to SHINE
@BLASIAN Most. Delusional. Stan. Ever.
I am a super Mariah Carey fan, but I will be honest about shady moves Tommy Mottola did to get her and keep her at the top. She had the GOOD, but I know the politics.
SparkDSister
Your the Delusional one. Kelly Can’t Blame Nobody but herself for her FALIED career. And she’s still failing and she’s not under Mat no more. Beyonce took control over her Career at a Young age, it’s Kelly ‘s Fault she didn’t do the same
In 2002, Knowles had already recorded numerous songs for Dangerously in Love. Her management scheduled the album for an October 2002 release, however it was postponed several times to capitalize on the success of American rapper Nelly’s single “Dilemma”, which features Destiny’s Child group mate Kelly Rowland.These delays allowed Knowles to go back to the studio and record more songs.
Beyawnce copies TINA TURNER
NEXT
Kelly’s album OCT 2002 why not put her album out while she’s riding off the success “Dilemma” ANY SMART Manger or Record label would do that.
Blasian u h**. 😛
Why is everyone blaming Beyoncé? If you fall down the stairs don’t blame B! Beyoncé is the bigger star, because she was the front woman of DC. Enough said. Her daddy managed the whole group, so of course Beyoncé was the leader of the 3. Plus B has the it-factor, the looks & especially a great voice. Kelly has always been #2. So why should she be more successfull now, when she was behind Beyoncé back in the day?
Beyawnce is a disgrace to music. Every video that she had done is copying every relevant artist with her fake ass blonde weave.
I agree Blasian pushing back dil was beneficial to beyonce while releasing sd after dilemma was beneficial to Kelly in Matthew’s eyes.
Columbia Records gave Beyonce the Redlight in 2002 and Gave Kelly the Greenlight so if anything Kelly at that time had the Upper Hand she just wasn’t has driven as Beyonce
Why in the Hell Would Mat and Columbia Records put out DIL with WROK It Out to where you have Kelly Rowland with this HUGE why not put her album out First ? Anyone with a BRAIN can SEE that’s a VERY VERY VERY SMART move
Mya
Thank You!
Blasian you are a stupid h**
Matthew always wanted Beyonce to be a successful solo star but Kelly was getting too popular and saw as a threat.
Kelly was the best in DC has she had originality and that’s what everyone loved about her.
Nicole
Use your Brain if Matthew always wanted Beyonce to more succcessful than Kelly wouldn’t he dropped Beyonce album Before Kelly’s even tho she had a HUGE single on her hands ? LMAO! DUMB DUMB
im sorry this song & video are still on top of my list, it didnt do well, BUT I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!
Blasian
Beyonce was irrelevant. She had nothing going for her. No interest at all. There was huge demand of Kelly’s debut.
SIT DOWN H**.
um beyonce has nothing to do with Kelly being a flop…truth be told Kelly doesn’t have that it factor, like someone said dilemma would have been a hit with or w/o ms.Rowland, anyway studio Rihanna shits on evey b**** out there, yes I said studio, I’ll have to agree that some of rihannas performances live just don’t cut it, that’s why I think there’s something crazy going on in the industry how can Rihanna have such a magical voice ona recorded track but pretty much suck live, there is a performance of Russian roulette that she did a pretty good live, but there was also a performance of firebomb that made me cringe, anyway she still my fave cuz she can do it all, pop,rb,hip hop, ballad, pop rock,..Rihanna Is president and britney is vp, ironically 2 tone deaf chicks have the best music. lol
Nicole
RIGHT thats why Kelly’s album hit #12 while Beyonce’s hit #1 and the rest in BEEISTORY LMAO!
I agree with you Marie. RIHANNA IS THE BEST ARTIST OUT THERE.
Blasian f*** u h**.
If Kelly didin’t have the “IT-FACTOR” what did Ashanti have?
Um, yeah! Sit down dummies!
There’s a difference between being promoted and targeted the right way. Ashanti was reigning queen before the Murder Inc slump and she doesn’t have half of the talent Kelly has—with the exception of songwriting.
Kelly wasn’t handled right and DELUSIONAL “POOR BEE” STANS can’t take it.
marie
Nicole
RIHANNA WITH THE WORD ARTIST IN THE SAME SENTENCE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOL
HER PERFORMANCE FROM LAST NIGHT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT A JOKE
@SO ME, what about my fav? Are u upset that my fav’s FIRST single went #1 for 5WEEKS!! at the age of 17?! don’t worry about it….i would be upset also *watches Ride*
If Kelly has to “KIM KARDASHIAN” her way to the top and jump on trends, don’t know her, because the industry appears to be against her.
Kelly should’ve took control of her career.
Beyonce took control of her career at an early age and she has even cited that things got heated between her Mathew over the decision making process.
She wasn’t sitting back waiting for her father to make moves. She had already had her map plan. Kelly should’ve did the same thing.
Kelly is under new management and she is being promoted well. But she just doesn’t have umph that Beyonce has.
And Kelly does not sing better than Beyonce. She has the potential if only she would work on her pitch and staying on key and also her breath control(although they do sound similar I think Kelly’s voice has a tad bit more depth) . Kelly has even admitted that Beyonce had to play vocal coach to Kelly sometimes to teach her how to hit certain notes.
Just face it Beyonce could take 10 year break, pop out 3 of Jayz big lipped rhino nosed babys and Kelly would still be struggling. Not even Tyrone would be able to help her career. And that is a fact.
I’m sorry but Kelly fans need to stop blaming everyone for her failure and start going out to buy the damn music. I bet the same people who sit here complain about Kelly not getting the success she deserves never went out and even bought one copy of the album or a single. These same people probably pirated her albums.
Blasian
Beyawnce is a JOKE. She copies everyone from Tina Turner to Lady Gaga. She’s a disgrace to music. And is only famous for her chicken thighs and copied dance moves.
Nicole
DON’T FORGET HER 16 GRAMMYS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Kelly was just as driven as Beyonce. The difference is that Kelly wanted to do things the right way while Beyonce was more willing to sell herself out and let her daddy pimp her out to the industry hence her “becoming” Sasha in the Crazy In Love vid…read up on it, its all true!
YES HER 16 STOLEN GRAMMYS WHICH HER DADDY BROUGHT HER.
@SPARKDSISTER
Ashanti had no competition. With Aaliyah gone people were looking for that new girl on the block and Ashanti happened to come right along.
Nicole
HOW DO STEAL GRAMMYS I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW LMAOOOOOOOOOO
How can somebody buy Grammys?That makes no since.
I’m pretty sure one of the grammy board members would’ve outed him by now if he was indeed doing so.
Another thing. Matty joined the Grammy board in 2005, Beyonce one her record 5 in 2004.
AND LMFAO at Riho being the best artist. More like most talentless b**** to ever do it.
Dominican Princess
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blasian
Ask Mr. Knowles and her Illuminant hubsand.
@DominicanPrincess – again NOBODY BLAMED YOU-KNOW-SHE
And Ashanti had hit r&b songs and a hell of a promotion budget. She also had a singles war with Tweet who was Missy’s artist.
Ashanti was not a strong singer, dancer, performer, but has hit songwriting skills and a hell of a budget. KELLY IS AND WAS A STRONGER ARTIST THAN HER without promotion, poor marketing choice, and not a follow-through of r&b target singles after Dilemma.
BEE STANS = REPUBLICANS in their level of delusion and creating an argument that wasn’t there.
why do the beyonce stans always feel the need to act a fool?
nobody is saying its beyonces fault that kelly never got on her level of stardom.
hell most people blame her dad…
and I agree with the people who said, matthew should have released kellys album while shes was still riding the sucess of dilemma…
but in the end beyonce is always gonna win, when it comes to being a star..I know its not fair, but hey..
kelly is giving a second chance right now..she needs to stop promoting other people s***(cough, beyonce)
and worry about her s***
@BLAISAN: I would not waste my time arguing. We know Beyonce is where she is today because she is a hell of a performer. People seem to forget that the managers work for the artist and not the other way around. If Kelly felt like she was not getting the promotion that she deserved she should have left. People need to start holding Kelly accountable, and stop blaming Beyonce and Matthew. Nothing against Kelly, but her performances leaves alot to be desire. She has a good tone in the studio, but live she always seems to be out of tune and out of breathe.
Also, everyone knows that “work it out” was for The Austin Powers movie, and was not an official single, but people would believe what they will to make themselves feel better, so just let them. At the end of the day Beyonce still making the most powerful list, and still on top in the music scene, and she’s been out 12/13 years.
And Kelly hasn’t even released her cd yet, and you losers are burying her because somebody mentioned the truth about the 2002 scenario.
Dominican H**
RIHANNA SHITS ALL OVER THIS H**. ALL HER SONGS ARE GOOD AND LISTENABLE
SHE HAS HAD 7 #1S TO HER NAME
AMAZING LIVE
STILL TOP 5 ON THE BILLBOARD AFTER 5 WEEKS.
BEYAWNCE NEEDS TO GO SLEEP.
SparkDSister
Ashanti had hit after hit FIRST with Always on time with Ja Rule no one knew who Ashanti was. So Kelly had an Upper Hand on her. Plus Ashanti came out around the Summertime People were in Love with her before Kelly’s album was released
BEYAWNCE STANS ARE ONE OF THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE EVER LOOK AT THIS BLASIAN H** FOR EXAMPLE.
TEE
Mat pushed back Beyonce to go with Kelly ‘s album so what are you talking about
Nicole
GO LISTEN TO RIHYODEL’S SAD PERFORMANCE LMAO!
From mid-spring 2002 to mid-summer of 2002, Ashanti was the Princess of Hip-Hop/Soul. This poses 2 questions:
1. How old is just too damn old to be the “Princess” of something?
2. How did she get that title?
The answer is complicated and a bit sad.
The year was 2002.
Aaliyah had died, Left Eye had died, Mary was happy, Whitney was a spokesperson for D.A.R.E.. All of Destiny’s Child had gone solo, the Fat Boys had broken up, and there was nothing left to believe in. We were sad, confused, our spirits were broken, and we took Ashanti because she had just enough of a look, just enough of a voice, the songs were good and, honestly, we didn’t think we could do any better.
She sold over 3 million albums and was the first female artist in history to have 3 songs in the Top 10 of the Hot 100. She won a Grammy, several other awards, and most importantly they let her perform on the main stage of the VMAs, not in a parking lot [shade].
Life was good for Ashanti Shequoiya Douglas, but then tragedy struck.
BEYONCE WENT SOLO…
And from than on it was over for Ashanti…
Ashanti stans fought and lost a bitter battle with Beyonce stans. To pass time most Ashanti stans have become either Ciara stans, Kelly Rowland stans, or are pretending to stan for Beyonce.
Although most of her stan army have officially disbanded, they still have hope that one day every relevant artist will die, kill somebody, or get hooked on crack, and it will be 2002 all over again.
@ Dominican Princess Buying Grammys is another thing haters use to make themselves feel better
Ashanti had her hood looks, Kelly Rowland well..look at her, by it factor, I meant she doesn’t have the look, let’s face it Rihanna and beyonce are beautiful! Ciara and Ashanti are s*** to, if Kelly was walkin down the street, I woudlnt look twice. u either need a powerful voice, looks, or some dance moves to make it big. Sadly all Kelly can ever say is,”I used to be in destinys child, and I was in that song with nelly called dilemma!”
Rated X
Matthew did release Kelly’s album riding off the success off dilemma
mathew joined the grammy board in 2005,
so that means he cant buy her 2010 grammys? please..
money talks…ok…best believe that s***..how many people has the knowles pay off not to sue beyonce for stealling their songs?
Ill wait…
never said beyonce didnt deserve some of the grammys she has,
but, some of the ones she got mathew bought that s***..its call money..thats how u buy a grammy…smh at the stans thinkin u cant buy a grammy..
Blasian
So what, Blasian everyone has an off performance. Only Girl sounded good if with a few slip ups. RiRi killed WHAT’S MY NAME!
SIT DOWN H*** RIHANNA IS THE QUEEN.
@Nicole
Oh yeah don’t forget that Rihanna is a better vocalist and performer than Beyonce. (sarcasm)
The Same people on here taking up for Kelly did you buy or Request , “Commander” “Rose Colored Glasses”, “Grown Woman”,& ” Forever and a Day”, ?
Lord Have Mercy, I forgot how great this video was, ‘Work It Out’ was the Video that Killed LAUREN HILL’s Career!! As soon at she saw it she went right back on drugs, & she never been the same since… The Queen also gave Tina Turner a run for her Money in 2002. Bey can do Tina but Tina could NEVER do the Queen.
LOL, I love Tina Turner & Ms.Hill
Anybody catch the B*** SLAP @ 1:24. 😆
From mid-spring 2002 to mid-summer of 2002, Ashanti was the Princess of Hip-Hop/Soul. This poses 2 questions:
1. How old is just too damn old to be the “Princess” of something?
2. How did she get that title?
The answer is complicated and a bit sad.
The year was 2002.
Aaliyah had died, Left Eye had died, Mary was happy, Whitney was a spokesperson for D.A.R.E.. All of Destiny’s Child had gone solo, the Fat Boys had broken up, and there was nothing left to believe in. We were sad, confused, our spirits were broken, and we took Ashanti because she had just enough of a look, just enough of a voice, the songs were good and, honestly, we didn’t think we could do any better.
She sold over 3 million albums and was the first female artist in history to have 3 songs in the Top 10 of the Hot 100. She won a Grammy, several other awards, and most importantly they let her perform on the main stage of the VMAs, not in a parking lot [shade].
Life was good for Ashanti Shequoiya Douglas, but then tragedy struck.
BEYONCE WENT SOLO…
And from than on it was over for Ashanti…
Ashanti stans fought and lost a bitter battle with Beyonce stans. To pass time most Ashanti stans have become either Ciara stans, Kelly Rowland stans, or are pretending to stan for Beyonce.
Although most of her stan army have officially disbanded, they still have hope that one day every relevant artist will die, kill somebody, or get hooked on crack, and it will be 2002 all over again.
___________________________________________________________
LMFAO
#DEAD
Rated X
How do you buy Grammys you still didn’t answer the Question? LOL
REMEMBER BEYONCE STEALS PEOPLE’S SONG REMEMBER IF I WERE A BOY SHE SAID SHE WROTE IT HERSELF BECAUSE IT DESCRIBE “HOW SHE WAS FEELING” THEN THE REAL SONGWRITER CAME OUT SHE DIDN’T HER SONG WAS STOLED UNTIL SHE HEARD IT ON THE RADIO. GOOD ON THAT GIRL SHE SUED BEYAWNCE.
BEYAWNCE IS A FRAUD. BEYAWNCE STANS GO TO SLEEP AND NEVER WAKE UP U GUYS ARE BORING.
@S***
Shut the hell up. I am starting to believe that you are not a real Beyonce stan. You say the most ridiculous s***.
Rated X
FYI
You only can be on the grammy board for 1 year lmaoooooooooooooooooooo!
#FAIL
*STOLEN
rolling eyes..
yea I used the excused that matthew bought beyonce some of her grammys, just to hate on her a**..
reallly..get the f*** out of here..
and yall stans making fun of the rihanna stans, umm yall on the same level of delusion..
since when did keepin it 100, means ur a hater?
BLASIAN
LOL Like you are so sure.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MONEY TALKS B****!
Nicole
WHEN DID BEYONCE SAY THAT, LAST TIME I CHECKED THE GIRLS NAME IS LISTED ON THE SONG FOR WRITING CREDIT LMAOOOOOOOOOO
FAIL AGAIN
Wow @ Nicole do your fingers hurt from all the typing bey has you doing
so because mathew was on the grammy board for 1 yr, he cant still have connections?
reallly?
common stans…matthew pays off everybody when it comes to his precious beyonce…
SO FAIL
It wasn’t there before she ordered a lawsuit on Beyonce.
SIT DOWN H**
@Nicole
Beyonce never said she wrote “If I were a Boy”
She talked about how Toby Gad(who co-wrote the song with BC jean) introduced the song to her and played it for her. He didn’t think she would like it and was hesitant to play it for her. But she did indeed like it and decided to record it. Her name isn’t on the writing credits either.#FAIL
@ Rated X
H** SIT!!
Haters are always somewhere looking for EXCUSES, Oh she Jacked this & Stole That. Its only because they’re PRESSED. The truth is, Mathew is just ONE(1) N**** & he dont run no Show!!, PPL give him way too much POWER. Beyonce has MORE Power than he does. & Bey’s NOT THE ONLY ONE with PPL on the Grammy Board!! COUNTLESS others, Almost EVERY highly nominated artist has someone on the Grammy Board that they are familiar with, Hello these PPL are all Record Execs & are apart of the Biz. Again, Mathew is just ONE(1) N**** & he doesnt run anything. Bey lead DC for the same reason she Leads the Grammys, because shes THE BEST…
Rated X
Since you think you know so much. How much does a Grammy COST ? lmaoooooooooooooooo
Nicole
Can you show me the lawsuit because you that type of info is PUBLIC records lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *waits*
@Blasian
October 31, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Rated X
How do you buy Grammys you still didn’t answer the Question? LOL
I dont need to answer a stupid question….its like ur askin me why is water wet
A hater is like a stan, but a hater is overly devoted to being negative or trying to degrade or discredit a certain celebrity.
Stans will spend all day looking for news and videos because they want to know everything about their favorite as it happens.
Haters will spend all day looking for news and videos to leave negative comments because the whole world needs to know just how much they hate somebody. Haters will bring up the object of their disdain in topics and situations that usually have nothing to do with them
Erm Nadjee yes she did. In an interview before I Am… Fraud Flop came out. She said her and Gad were in the studio thinking what about then could write about TOGETHER.
You fail b****
@RATED X
Because u can’t answer it.
@ Nicole
See what I mean?? EXCUSES
Rated X
How Much does a Grammy cost since you know for a FACT Beyonce’s Dad brought her Grammys? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Go ahead make a fool of yourself while I laugh…..
*they
@ Rated X Why do you think Matthew has to purchase Beyonce’s grammys it’s like your trying to discredit her talent
@Nadjee
And she also said they couldn’t think of anything in that same interview and that he played If I were a boy for her and she liked so she recorded it.
I guess Im a h** now huh, lol..
rolling eyes..is that all u stans can come up with when somebody tells it like it is?
ur a b****, h**, s***
i hope ur guys are getting compensated for all that name calling..
n**** ist not that damn serious….i bet beyonce doesnt even know none of yall broads on here, whos getting all worked up over somebody sayin her daddy pays for her grammys..
*@nicole
Nicole
Really ? So that means her Name would’ve been on the song credit right since you said her and Tod were in the Studio together but guess what? It’s Not. lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FAILED AGAIN
BEYAWNCE IS A FRAUD. HER VIDEOS GIVES AN EXAMPLE OF IT. HER STANS ARE TOO LOOPY TO SEE IT.
Rated X
How Much Does a Grammy cost since you know FACTS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I LOVE IT *WAITS*
Queen Beyonce>>>>>>>>>>Kelly Flopland ANYDAY
Love you Beyonce. Kelly has no Star Power, she would never be on Bey’s lvl no matter how hard they tried
Nicole
DON’T GET THAT BEYONCE WAS NAMED BILLBOARD FEMALE ARTIST OF THE DECADE LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU LOSE AGAIN
@Mya
October 31, 2010 at 8:05 pm
@ Rated X Why do you think Matthew has to purchase Beyonce’s grammys it’s like your trying to discredit her talent
show me where I ever said beyonce is not talented..I want to see that s***..
because I said beyonce didnt earn some the grammys she had on her own that means I dont think shes talented?
yall act like grammys are based on talent alone..hell the same rihanna who yall making fun of on here won 3 grammys..
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..that means shes talented?
Rated X
How Much does Grammys Cost ??? lmaooooooooooooooooo
Beyonce EARNED every single one of her grammys
She is a beautiful woman with amazing TALENT i repeat, TALENT !!!!!!
But if discrediting her amazing achievements makes you sleep better at night, then by all means, go right ahead lol but its pointless 🙂
I f***** LOVE this woman
Blasian
SHE’S ON TOP BECAUSE OF HER AMAZING FEAT OF COMING EVERY RELEVANT ARTIST AT THE TIME IN THE YEARS GONE BY.
You fail again h**
*coping
RIHANNA RULES OVER THESE H*** ANYWAY.
When a B**** Flops…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** Fails…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** Gets Hooked on Crack…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** dies…Blame Beyonce
When A B**** can’t pay there mortgage…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** is starving…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** is in the unemployment line…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** can’t pay her water bill…Blame Beyonce
When a B**** has to f*** for tracks…Blame Beyonce
WHEN A B**** WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL…BLAME MOTHERFUCKING BEYONCE FOR EVERYTHING SHE IS THE PROBLEM.
@ Rated X
give it up honey, u r looking quite foolish. Up in here hating leaving as many comments as the stans lmao
PRESSED MUCH?!
& LMAO @ Trentinisha
DID SAMANTHA PUT YOU UP TO THIS??
#DEAD
How in the Hell were Kelly & Beyonce supposed to have EQUAL Careers when THEY ARE NOT EQUAL???? LMAO
So do you think Kelly with her HESITANT ass Voice should have song LEAD too??
It was Beyonce that would HOLD BACK on Melodies JUST to give Kelly Shine, Hell I recall Bey PROMOTING Kelly’s Album!!!!!!!!!
Kelly better THANK BEYONCE for even GIVING her a career to begin with!!
& Work it Out >>> Kelly’s WHOLE Discography. Death at comparing a Old School Disco tune to a catchy R&B Callabo with NELLY who was hot as hell in 2002 along with Ashanti, Look how that turned out, Kelly just got LUCKY if anything SAM… *KANYE SHRUGS*
@ Rated X I’m saying beyonce performs and sales her ass off so why are her grammys being questioned???? No comment on Rihanna I’m here for bey
Nicole
Help Rihanna get a #1 album this time you know what they say the “5TH” Time is the Lucky Charm DIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@ You Flopped…blame Beyonce
lmao!!!!! These h*** gotta blame someone right? XD
You Flopped…Blame Beyonce
lmao!
When you break a nail…. BLAME BEYONCE
@ DSAHAGH Co-sign!!!!
“Help Rihanna get a #1 album this time you know what they say the “5TH” Time is the Lucky Charm”
LOOOOOOOL Blasian u f***** up for that lol!!!
SHAME on you SAMANTHA for Making TRENTinisha do your DIRTY WORK!!
You should be Ashamed (& Embarrassed)
Blasian
Help Beyawnce get her own style.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THAT’S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN CAUSE SHE’S A FRAUD!
**Death at comparing a Old School Disco tune to a catchy R&B Callabo with NELLY who was hot as hell in 2002 along with Ashanti, Look how that turned out, Kelly just got LUCKY if anything SAM… *KANYE SHRUGS***
^^^^
That is so true…
@Mya
grammys are not based on talent anymore boo..anybody can win a grammy now…
its based on who u know, whos paying for it, and whos hot at the moment..
and uve never seen me questions bey talent or sales…
if bey bey won all her grammys fair and square why waste ur time on a hater, whos main focus is to hate on ur precious bey?
RIHANNA IS THE ONLY ORIGINAL ARTIST OUT THERE!
HATERS STAY MAD!
Your Man beat your ass on the way from the grammys and left you in the middle of the street… BLAME BEYONCE.
Your P**** Stanks…Blame Beyonce
Rated X
How Much Grammys cost? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I would love to know so I can save up my money to buy one lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Nicole is a Troll…BLAME BEYONCE
at the end of the day bey bey is still gonna have her 16 grammys..
so whats the point of getting all mad and angry at haters?
did I hit a nerve or something?
I mean dang…
You Flopped…Blame Beyonce
lol!
The Sly is Falling… BLAME BEYONCE
The Sky is Falling… BLAME BEYONCE
You got a small d***…Blame Beyonce
Excuse me?
Blasian needs a good slap… Blame Beyawnce.
rolling eyes,
ur still stuck on how much a grammy cost boo?
U didnt know I was a hater?
so why waste ur precious time on my hating a**…
You Mad…Blame Beyonce
Listen up. Kelly was featured. Beyonces track was for a soundtrack.
How well did Kelly do as a lead artist in America!?
Exactly. And don’t come with the ‘she had Beyonce’s leftovers’ because I’m sure as hell when Simply S*** dropped you thought the songs where hot as hell.
Rated X
You said she brought her Grammys like you know for a FACT, So I’m asking how much a Grammy Cost Because I want one lmaooooooooooooooooo! Since anyone can buy Grammys let you tell it lmao!
You flooped…Blame Beyonce
WTF is wrong with you? I’m not a hater. I’m stating facts how Beyawnce is a fraud. That is all.
You have h*****….Blame Beyonce
RIHANNA’S HORRIBLE SNL PERFORMANCE…. BLAME BEYONCE LOL
Hurricanes….. BLAME BEYONCE
Rihanna got her ass beat…Blame Beyonce
@ Rated X I didn’t call you a hater my argument is if matthew/beyonce/jay-z/tina/juelz or whoever are buying grammys why aren’t they buying album of the year or record of the year grammys i mean why settle for less but i rest my case
@ Nicole
The word for last week was DELUSIONAL
The word for this Week is… EXCUSES
Do your HomeWork dear, POP QUIZ Tomorrow…
wft trent…first off all that was nelly’s song…and it was a great song…kelly not beyonce made herself flop….
IF Bey’s Dad is buying Grammys why not Buy Album of the Year the Best Award of the night? lmaoooooooooooooooooo YOU FAILED AGAIN
TBH KELLY STANS HARDER FOR BEY THAN BEY DOES HERSELF! EVERY INTERVIEW, EVERY TIME U SEE HER SHE IS THROWING PRAISE TO BEY. SOMETIMES WELL NOT SOMETIMES IN THIS BUISNESS THERE IS NO TIME FOR LETTING PEOPLE ‘HAVE A TURN’ YES THEY ARE FRIENDS BUT U HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO SEPERATE FRIENDS FROM BUISNESS ASSOCIATES.
Mya
That’s what I’m saying why not buy the BIGGEST award of the night Album of The Year lmao!
ppl stfu with ya sht bout beyonce bought grammys.
stop hating. beyonce is the best thing that happpen to da music industry.
beyonce gets more promo because of politics..
but people arent going to go out and spend their money unless they want the product, no one was strongarmed..
kelly just doesnt do it for me, she doesnt look as fierce as bey..bey looks like she REALLY wants to be there and REALLY wants to perform. thats what attracts people to her, she has this fire in her..
kelly just doesnt have the same fire.. so stop comparing them theyre two completely different people~
people career floppin left n right, blame hurricane beyonce. coz u no when she omes, she does come! she slays them wannabes!
@blasian, is the i am tour dvd out yet? cant wait fo da sht, imma buy 100 for xmas gift!
Beyonce is not on the charts Now and where is kelly
beyonce is the best bitccch ever. sorry people!
@ capiche
EXACTLY, Kelly hasnt even SEPARATED Herself from DC yet (as Bey had already done many YEARS ago in her debut) & Its been YEARS. Kelly gives you no reason whatsoever to buy her album unless you were a DC Fan, (or Sam) Beyonce on the other hand never truly needed DC to be truly successful…
In reality Bey’s Sister Solange is better than Kelly in a lot of ways.
@mya, dats right. wheres kelly? the only person that can slightly touch bey throne is rihanna coz she doz own the #1 hot 100.
Beyonce HALO REMIX (ZERO)
Remember those b****** I killed
Well,Their careers are really down
And they didnt even put up a fight
Who could when sasha is around?
I let them the time to have a hit
But I never really had a doubt
Whoever stand against me become a zero
you are all flop b****** now
numbers one dont even count
Grammy record I had it broken’
It’s the risk that you’ve taken
You can beg for mercy or you can shout out
Everywhere I am lookin now
I am surrouded by dead bodies
I told you, you were a zero
You knew you cant stand beside me
Ask Ashanti and many more
It’s written all over her grave
BeyBey killed another zero
Pray you wont be murdered
You are zero zero zero
You are zero zero zero
You are zero sero zero ouh ouh
beyonce was destinys child all along. really who cared bout them 2 other ones? beyonce was da one earning da money and awards. kelly n mich would never be able to do it.
beyince has won more grammys alone than dc. respect! rihanna onli won grammys in collabo LOOOOOOOL
BEYONCE IS SOOOO UNDERRATED!
It has to do with a bit of everything in why Kelly didn’t achieve the same amount of success.
BEYONCE IS SOOOO OVERRATED! hehe
Well, Kelly isnt with Mathew MGT now and she is flopping more than ever and is having endless push backs – whose to blame?
@Cramped
When in doubt blame Beyonce.
If someone CAN pretend to deserve the same level of success as the Queen Bey, it’s Kelly Rowland. They grew up together, they started out together, they found success and they went through a lot of issues together !!!
I remember how a lot of people hated Beyoncé circa 2002/2003 because of what happened with the other girls and because of her obvious supremacy over Kelly and Michelle.
But Beyoncé became the icon she is today because she never took her fame for granted and kept on challenging herself. I never saw her giving a “cheap” performance no matter if it was on MTV, BET, AMA, FASHION ROCKS, she takes her job 100% seriously. Btw, all the famous artists who worked with her agree on the fact she’s a humble person and a workaholic.
No matter how Matthew Knowles has been involved in their careers, Kelly is old and famous enough today to succeed on her own. Yet she’s struggling, to say the less.
Sam & Trent, I hate when you try to stir up the hate in your posts whether it’s Chris Brown, Rihanna, Ciara or Beyoncé. You know you’re wrong on this one. BEY IS THE QUEEN.
Lol @ 01:23 Queen Bey touch dat ass! 😀
P.s.: I love her so much !!! <3
UHHHH I SORTA AGREE. EVEN IF KELLY WAS GIVEN THE SAME TREATMENT WHEN IT COMES TO DELIVERY BEY IS A MASTER…. I LOVE KELLY BUT SHE CAN NOT COMPARE.
@ WHITEJESUS
The Queen Beysus is so NOT overrated.
Dont you stan for Gaga??
gotta love @kat delunas songs…funny I’ll give u credit. but rihannas music is better than beyonces. firebomb >>>beyonces discography don’t stop the music >>>beyonces discography disturbia >beyonces discography only girl> beys discography . What we have here is a repeat of the late 90’s battle between Britney and Christina . Where one girl clearly has the voice and the other one has the hits. Rihanna and britney have the hits but beyonce and Cristina have the voices. Rihanna has 2 classic albums under her belt gggb and rated r. Beyonce had almost had an epic cd with I am Sasha, but the slow side killed it, and not In a good way…but beyonce got some good songs. I love sweet dreams and radio/telephone/videophone and I know most of the dance to single ladies and the dance at the end of baby boy. Actually baby boy and naughty girl are my s*** to, but it’s something about Rihanna that I loveee. she’s beautiful, a trend setter and she cranks out the number ones with relative ease.
So you are trying to tell me u would rather stan for someone who makes hits rather than talent^ GTFO.
Usher have a small d***……………….BLAME BEYONCE 😀
Kelly & Cici put some silicone…………………….BLAME BEYONCE
idgaf about talent, mariah and whitney have talent but why stan for them when they dont make any songs i like, why would i even pretend to care, oh becase they have talent or can play an instrument or can write their own music, i jus dgaf, just give me the hits!!
Beyonce falls on stage…………………..BLAME…..Sasha Fierce 😀
Chris Brown is a r*****………………….BLAME BEYONCE
Then damn Lisa… you really do have a S*** taste in music.
Rihanna is like Chris Brown……………..BLAME BEYONCE 😀
the only failing is u boo…
cause u stay on the same s***….
FLOP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kelly Who?
Beyonce – Irreplaceable
You shudda left/ Sudda left…(2x) Hmmm
You shudda left/ sudda left… Everybody’s gettn owned /and I got them doing meth
In the closet/ grammies gettin stuffed/ and you can’t get one/ so don’t touch
Keep playing naive – that’s fine/ Single ladies have sold millions 4 times …/ and
It’s so lame/ how your so wack/ Flop faces gettn cracked/ and going back to the lab
standing on the sidelines/ asking me , what now should you do
Talking ’bout/ my plan B was going back to school / … ‘cuz your too gifted!
You just don’t know ’bout me(2x)/ I can end another you in a minute
Matter fact/ I know your stans will resent it/ baby…
You must not know “bout me(2x)/ I can end another you by 2moro
So don’t you ever for a secound get to thinking/ your Irreplaceable
y u stans gettin mad at something u guys believe is b*******?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
s*** as long as im happy with my “s***” music let it be. not everybody is gonna like the same s***. get over it.
lisa
Please keep your assholes, I mean Opinions to yourself.
Beyonce Vs Rihanna is very Different from Xtina Vs Britney.
Beyonce is just as much of a Hits Queen as Rihanna (believe it or not) only Bey excells at other things & Beyonxce’s music is just as good if not BETTER than Rihannas. Fire Bomb, Rude Boy & Disturbia are her best songs but Only Girl doesnt even s*** on VIDEO PHONE!!
Halo >>> Rihanna’s Discography. Cause it doesnt hurt that Bey can ACTUALLY SING.
I like Gaga,
u dont see me crying like a little b**** when ever u guys come on her post calling her a fraud, gimmick, h**, s***..
its not that damn serious..
like i said me saying beybey daddy;s bought some of her grammys for her, is not gonna take away her grammys..
so in the end u stans end up looking real stupid as hell arguing with a HATER over a grammy
I think my previous post was misunderstood, so all i’m going to say is LOVE YOU BEY…that is all.
oh wow @s*** i think i see the light, i mean beyonce can sing and dance and oh my gosh, shes b-b-b beautiful..your so right beyonce is queen, please forgive me for my previous stupid comments.
B should drop that single before I forgot all about it!!!!!!
@LISA: We forgive you….Now get your f*****’ ass out of here…lmfao
P.s.: Bey is the QUEEN
@ROYALKEV
Gotta love,Never talk with simple b****** stans
Thanks to everyone for the compliments,I appreciate 😀
@ KAT DELUNA FAN
Here, let me help you:
Beyonce HALO REMIX (ZERO):
Remember those b****** I killed
Well,Their careers are tumbling down
And they didnt even put up a fight
Who could when sasha is around?
I gave them time to have some hits
But I never really had a doubt
Whoever stand against me become a zero
you are all flop b****** now…
Numbers ones, they dont stand for s***
Grammy records I already had em broken’
It’s the risk that you’ve taken
or you’ll be kicked into the pits
You just can beg for mercy now
Everywhere I am lookin now
I am surrounded by dead bodies
I told you, you were always a zero
You know you cant stand beside me now
Ask Ashanti, C-Error and many mooore
It’s written all over their graves
BeyBey just killed yet another zero
You Betta Pray I wont be murderer
You are zero zero zero
You are zero zero zero-ooo
You are zero sero zero
You are a zero zero zerooo ouh ouh
I punched you dead in the faaaace
now Im bout to get my mace
You are a disgrace to the human race
Now B**** get up out my face
You swore you’d never lose again
now I got these b****** lying
Where is all my competition now?
I got these b****** crying again
Its like Ive been awaken
These B****** still Dying
or Are they just sleeping
or are they just faking it…
Zero, Zero, Zero,
All I see is Zeros, Zero, Zero-oos
All I see is zeros, Zeros, Zerooos
All I see is Zeros, Zeros, Zeroooos,
Aoouuugh.
@LISA
Aww, ITS OK 🙂
Now If only NIKKI & DumbOfficial could learn to REPENT like you.
@BZZZZZZ or S***
Thanks 😀 I like ,I like …
Beyonce cant be on break but her stans aren’t,Keep killin them
I wish some new female diva would come into the scene already. I’m sick of beyonce. Just my opinion.
Death at these comments. I taught I go hard but damn the bey army slayed and dragged every hater on this post. I can’t. I am dying at you flop….. Blame beyonce.
You sound like a goat on a farm, blame beyonce. Hilarious. Good one team bey.
Shout out to blasian, royalkev, you flop, blame beyonce, kat deluna Stan, S*** and so on. You guys slayed my life.
@ SparkDSister
Eh, who was talking about Ashanti? Ashanti had no competition & she was hot when she came out, but after her debut, she fell off. Where is she now? Btw I was talking about Kelly compared to Beyoncé. If you mention DC, what will be the first name in people’s mind? Right honey, Beyoncé! #NotHatinJustSayin
You know, I love how “From The Vault” focuses on the video EVERY week but this post made no mention about the video at ALL! Beyonce, you are doing very well at keeping these haters pressed!
Po Kellz. Her vocal delivery is GREAT and her talent is very-much-there! Her voice is a lot more in-depth as one stated above. She can do it; I.E.:She’s gotta get her live performances 2ghther. (Which might contribute to some of her success.) ! do believe her first project was handled incorrectly in comparison to Beynonsense’s unfortunately. Also, her debut was more in-tune with who she is an artist, that was the sound that fit her the most. If her label promoted her correctly she would’ve had more success w/ it. Matt wasn’t taking full-force with her album! She has remained real, unfortunately labels still haven’t figured out how to handle her as far as her “marketing and a&r”. She did have some hott songs but were very much-so overlooked to an extreme. Especially, because of her counterpart. Beynonsense do be buyin her Grammy’s too lmao. Kellz definately gott THE_VOICE;I.E. Her song “Love Again”, just not the “label” backing her like the latter. There is STILL hope for KELLZ!!!
Trent, your love for Kelly is getting unhealthy. I hope you get that checked out soon 😀
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Bey stans went in i see 😆
Kelly isn’t with Matthew anymore and is still flopping. Explain that Kelly fans.
It’ SO easy to conjure up some conspiracy theory as to why Kelly isn’t (and never will be) on the same level as Beyonce, but the sad truth is she just DOES NOT have it!
I’ve been there, I was rooting for her as the under dog in the past, but even now her material isn’t even in the same ballpark as Beyonce’s first album. No one is denying she has an amazing voice, but some singers are meant to stay in the background.
As for the mediocre to awful singers like Ashanti (NEVER could sing or entertain), Jennifer Lopez (great entertainer, but only really sang on her first album and that was probably studio enhanced), and even now Ciara, it is pretty much common knowledge that Beyonce stalled or completely destroyed their career in Ashanti’s case. If she was so hot why didn’t she get back on top when she left the Inc?
I pity the females who have to compete with Beyonce. They will always be compared with her and come up short. Rihanna’s next, its only a matter of time!
For the record “Crazy in Love” alone tops Ashanti’s whole second album. Just listen to the beginning! The base and the horns set it so far apart from anything on the radio at the time, you had to take notice!
lol@inna blame beyonce 4 errthang
don’t pretend to know what went on behind the scenes or why and have no desire to play the ‘what if’ or coulda, woulda, shoulda game. All I know is I have not seen any contemporary female that deserves to be in Beyonce’s position more than Beyonce does. Beyonce just has a stronger overall package than her competitors, bottom line. I know some people like to cheer for the underdog but I prefer to give credit where it is due and Beyonce has earned and deserves all of the credit she gets. Instead of supporting one of our artists one she gets really big and is competing against major female artists of other genres and race, all we want to do is put her down because we wish someone else was in her shoes. Well I think she represents Contemporary R&B/Pop in a strong light by outperforming the other female Pop & Country Divas, competing for awards and album sales and more than holding her own. I think we should be proud and support her.
rolling eyes at the stans thinkin that they dragged out the haters..
u stans are dumb,
and beyonce didnt work hard for all the s*** she has..
since every damn time she puts something out(songs, clothing) somebody is suing her a** for stealling their ideas..
how many people, music producers, singer, fashion designers have sued bey in the past?
yea i guess they all haters too..
i still stand by my opinion on bey bey not earning all her grammys, and if u stans dont like my opinion, u can kiss my a**
As for a more direct response, this is one of my favorite Beyonce songs and videos and I think it was slept on big time. But as others said this is just a soundtrack song and Dilemma is really a Nelly song feat. Kelly; but then Trent knows all that, he’s just pulling for straws to fabricate this topic and garner a lot of posts. Kelly was allowed to release her solo album first, before Beyonce. Also Kelly had the Hip/Hop/R&B hit with Nelly to set up her album (and Dilemma was also included on her album which was quickly released on the heels of the success of Dilemma) plus she was allowed to record alternative crossover music (everyone wants to crossover). All this and some people still want to argue that she was mistreated. What is meant to be is meant to be and what is not meant to be just isn’t going to happen. Kelly has had so many opportunities that many other artists have not had.
Bottom line: Bey has the “it” factor, Kelly doesn’t. THE END.
I’m not denying that certain strings were pulled for Bey in order to take off so successfully, but if she didn’t have any real talent to make her worthy of such success, do you honestly think she would have lasted this long? Do you think that she would have gotten BIGGER with time instead of slowly fading into obscurity? You can buy success, but you can’t stretch it into an iconic career if you’re not destined for one, no matter how hard you try.
@ Rated X:
I don’t think Grammys can be “bought”, they usually just give the award to the most popular artist of that year. Whether that artist is deserving or not is another story, it’s very rare that the best-selling artist is also the most deserving in terms of artistic ability.
Please Mariah is just in a different league, Tommy did’nt do as much as Mathew, when an artist is incredible, fresh and new you do what u gotta do to mek that star shine. I’m not saying he did’nt have his little tactis involved, however Mathew is just disgusitng with it. On another note Kelly had to be hungry, at that time i don’t think she was quite ready. Beyonce’ came out swinging even tho she claims that she is shy. Mathew of course had his daughters best interest at heart. Besides, Kellys first album Mathew has dropped the ball on just about all of his artists albums. He knows that Beyonce is his bread and butter. Kelly will be successful this time, everything is gearing up quite good.
Beyonce’ might be the most hyped for now outside of Gaga, but Alicia is by far to me the best if not one of the best artist of this generation. For the most part albums sale better than Beyonce’s, even with Beyonce being some what more contemporary.
Anyway this is not a bash Beyonce’ thread. So to all of her stans stop making it one.
Mariah and Whitney’s catalogue blows Beyonce out the box literally. Mariah is a composer/songwriter/Vocalist/Artist. What are u talking about to the person that said they have talent but what else. You must be crazy. Then i guess Beyonce is just a performer/entertainer, because certainly she has lied alot about writing many of her songs. She has been called out for that many many times as well. Beyonce has a machine behind her. She really does’nt get her hands dirty but likes to steamroll all of the credits, that others have slaved over lol. Some talent that is.
280 comments of you dumbasses arguing back and forth over this.
Trent played you all like Lotto.
I LOVE Work It Out, Bey KILLED!
and this sounds like a biased, un-researched post.
Why compare Kelly’s duet with Nelly from both albums which dropped in 2002
to Beyonce’s lil soundtrack song? Her album didn’t come until the summer of the next year
Kelly had ample time & promo to become big. She won & performed at the Grammys
She starred in Freddy vs Jason, she had a lot of oveseas promo, a few videos
all BEFORE Beyonce’s solo music career started
sound like someone is bitter that Beyonce is more successfull than Kelly
First of all, all of you needed to take it down a notch. I am a HUGE DC3 Fan so I love the both of them(Kelly and Bey). The real reason why they went ALL went solo is that when the group went back together, the GROUP would be bigger than they were during the Survivor Era. That’s one of the reason why Bey’s album was pushed back. Not because it wasn’t going to be successful but because they wanted to Maximize Kelly’s shine. Simply Deep wouldn’t have sold as it did without the Nelly Song. Michelle doing Gospel wouldn’t have the same kind of shine as both Bey and Kelly because secular is more popular as genre than Gospel, even contemporary Gospel. It’s just want it is. Remember, they didn’t break up until AFTER Destiny Fulfilled.
It’s true that Kelly WANTED to do R&B/Alternative, Michelle would do Gospel and Bey would do Commerically Urban Music that had a big sound bringing the funk(BTW, the group was built around Bey and her vocal arrangements and sound). Crazy in Love, coming off what she did with Work It Out(Another funk inspired sound song), was so big that even though Bey did just over 300 K the first week, she had so many great singles that people were buying the album in masses. No one thought that Bey would do what she did.
It’s kind of like TLC. Even the most popular of TLC(Left Eye) didn’t do anywhere close to big #s with her album. Just because you’re the most popular or the lead singer don’t guarantee solo stardom. In fact, sometimes the expectations can be too much especially with a big pop group as DC was. But DIL rose up to the challenge and we see the career that she has.
And to show that Bey was going to continue on to the sound that she introduce with Work It Out, she then released B’Day, which is even more of a big sounding, heavy instrumentation, funky, pre-dominately uptempo album, whether it sold heavy or not. Because that’s her sound and then she expanded on that with IASF. People just need to deal with it. Bey’s image and marketing helped but at the end of the day, it’s her sound and the execution of it is why she has fans. Plus, when she wants to do something, she does it, whether her label like it or not and again, this is why she has the amount that she does.
BEY AND HER DELLUSIONAL STANS>>>SWEAR THIS GIRL IS THE #1 B****. WHY DON’T BEY AND HER STANS GO TAKE A COLD SHOWER AND PUT CRAZY GLUE IN THERE HAIR! lolol.
@THEMAN are you on dope or dog food. A. Keys is old news…….If I’m not correct, if it wasn’t for Jay’s song New York, she wouldn’t have seen top ten 10 on billboard this whole year……please, no one is checking for her anymore and her mediocre tour was on RiRi level not a Beyonce Gaga level.
Are you kidding me, minus hot100 hits A.Keys would sale way more units than Beyonce’. Alicia has been slaying on the r&b charts. Her song Unthinkable’ is classic better than anything off of Beyonce’s last album. Beyonce sold 3 million barely with all of those videos propmo, and press for over 2 yrs. Lol she’s so big !!! Haha A. Keys latest album is at 1.6 or 1.7 million units without a top10 hit. Thats incredible ! Beyonce surely can’t do that. Alicia is the biggest r&b star of the this generation. Beyonce’ is to busy playing catch up to Gaga now whose album has outsold Beyonce’s sorry stans. Beyonce is known for being a performer/entertainer nothing more.
@The Man.
Well, as much you might want me and other fans too, this Bey fan will not pick up the bait being that Beyoncé and Alicia are in different lane. AKeys was last decade’s R&B Artist of the Decade according to Billboard and Beyoncé was the Female Artist of the Decade by the same Mag.
Both of them move units, both do well on radio and on the charts as well as having beaucoup Grammys. They are the only black female legends under 30 and they are going to be remembered by mainstream entertainment history. You won’t be able to talk about one without the other.
So anyone who gets into a Bey vs A.Keys battle FAILS. It’s like comparing Diana Ross and Aretha. Ella and Billie. Whitney and Mariah. Both are pretty much the same level though in different lanes.
@Leema. I am a fellow BeyParty member but really don’t take the bait. AKeys is not in the same lane as our girl. AKeys is Neo Soul(according to her label) and Bey is not. As you can see, the poster you are responding to is a Bey hater. Anyone who can say this: Then i guess Beyonce is just a performer/entertainer, because certainly she has lied alot about writing many of her songs. She has been called out for that many many times as well. Beyonce has a machine behind her. She really does’nt get her hands dirty but likes to steamroll all of the credits, that others have slaved over lol. Some talent that is.
With all evidence to the contrary, is not worth it. I mean, if I really wanted, I could get into the Alicia tea about her songwriting and musical “controversies” but…again, it’s not worth it because at the end of the day, A Keys is not the issue. It’s haters who have nothing better to do but to hate on Beyoncé for whatever reason they want. They use other artists as divergents from the real issue.
This is the biggest BS I’ve heard all year… Kelly is a FLOP! I dnt even like Beyonce but c’mon now, Beyonce is a MONSTER (Nicki Minaj voixe)! She’s super talented vocally speaking… She writes/picks solid songs… Awesome choreography…. Her look is more marketable…. She’s just better. Kelly ole recycled boring ass music. She clearly can just miss the WHOLE US wit dat s***
#NEXT…
Beyonce’s FLOP even triump Kelly’s successes! This gay ass website always throwin shade im dunn wit dis s***
And here is a NICE little comment for you from a site to all of you “stans” of other artists who try to go on Bey’s contributions in the studio:
Grammy-winning songwriter Dallas Austin says he’s had a manager rave about a song Austin wrote all by himself, and then tell him, “We wanna know if we can get a piece of the pie on it because (the artist) wants to feel like she has a part ownership on the song.
Gerson calls the practice unfair but says it’s “pretty prevalent in pop and R&B … I think the way people now divide publishing splits is who was in the room. ’OK … I changed the word “the” to “a,” and I deserve 10 percent of the publishing.”’
This is an article reporting about how MOST artists lie about their songwriting contributions and/or do minimal work to get credits, and the note the person who I quoted from said that it is PREVALENT in Pop & R&B. So if your fave artist is Commerical and R&B especially, you better give a nice side eye to them when they speak on their contribution.
Meanwhile Neyo has ALWAYS stated that Bey contributed Irreplaceable compositionally and guess what? He does it again in this interview too: But now that songwriters like Warren, Garrett and Ne-Yo are established, they rarely find themselves taken advantage of any more.
“I give other people credit where credit is due, like Beyoncé really did vocally arrange (‘Irreplaceable’),” Ne-Yo says. “So for someone to come in and take my credit because they are who they are? That doesn’t work for me. I don’t care who you are. … I’m not going to give you something you don’t deserve.”
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19940398
And I am only doing this to show where some of your motives are because all of this “tea” will spilled and you will not want to recieve because it goes beyond the crafted image you have of Bey.
ugh! SHUT THE F*** UP TRENT AND JUST POST THE DAMN VIDEO. You’re always trying to put them against each other but they really love each other and are even more than friends, they’re sisters. Stop it.
This is just a law of freaking nature. When have two members of a group been successful in their solo efforts? Let’s look at N’sync we had Justin Timberlake and JC Chasez who both were lead singers in a hugely successful boyband yet only one of them made it…The Black Eyed Peas Fergie & William…Fergie kicked ass.
It has never been and will never be that two artists from a group will achieve the same levels of success. So a tip would be to never ever allow oneself to be a member of a musical group …period!
Fail Trent