@CHILESTOP, I have listened to "Discipline" and I do not find it "vagular" [sic], I find it quite sensual, just like I find "Motivation" sensual and not "vulgar," that is until R. Kelly began talking about "stripper poles." Being sensual has absolutely nothing to do with age at all. I do think that R. Kelly can definitely write a sensual song but this is not it. In terms of Janet, we can disagree on this point. You read and understand her one way. I, another. Fine.

Oh, so Rene was ghosting writing for Janet. Right. "Ghost writers" do not appear in credits.

When I mentioned Janet's "records," this was not to suggest that records are what made her Legendary and Iconic. She is original. She has made an indelible mark on pop music. She has produced progeny, as in many artists who have attempted to reproduce her...etc....this is what contributes to her Legendary and Iconic status first and foremost. The fact that she has sold over 100 records, been nominated for an Academy Award, several #1 songs, worth more than $150 million dollars, etc...are extra: secondary.

Finally, for you to say that Phyllis Hyman is not Legendary speaks volumes. That's like saying that Anita Baker is not Legendary. I can't.