With reports that LA Reid may be in charge of Ciara’s upcoming project now hotter than ever since the starlet addressed the claim, many spectators remain anxious as to what the next chapter of her career may bring.
For with her last album ‘Basic Instinct‘ a dark commercial and critical memory for many of her supporters, there is no denying that both Ms. Harris’ critics and fans have their fair share of reasons as to why the last few years of her career have been difficult to watch.
One reason that is often given is her creative relationship with world renowned producer ‘The Dream’.
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Responsible for such hits as Beyonce‘s ‘Single Ladies’, Rihanna‘s ‘Umbrella’ and Britney‘s ‘Me Against The Music’, his work with Ciara has failed to achieve the dizzy heights of commercial success that he has enjoyed with many of her contemporaries.
With the hands of Pop culture time slowly spinning faster and faster with newbies along the lines of Adele and Lady GaGa intensifying the competition in a Beyonce dominated world, is it time for Ciara to spread her wings and leave the comfort of The Dream’s creative bosom?
For despite her many shortcomings, Ms. Harris is one of the most gifted entertainers to debut within the last ten years.
Remaining one of the only artists whose performance skills fall into the ‘undeniable’ category, proving her worth as an entertainer time and time again.
However. Like many a former dancer/singer before her Ciara remains at risk of going down in history as the performer that ‘could have been’ as opposed to being the groundbreaking musician so many believe she can be.
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I think she should. I want her to work with other producers for her next album.
Yes!
He doesn’t give her his best work in my honest opinion. The choruses in particular on Basic Instinct were boring and repetitive with no real hook.
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She should! All of The Dream’s productions sound the same… I can tell when he wrote a song or produced it!
She should cut creative ties with herself. Because. Her career is DONE, like OVER! Its like having a life support machine at someones grave, nothing they can do will bring HER back!
YES!
He did an awful job on the “Basically Extinct” album!
I think she needs new team! Polow da Don, Sean Garrett, Rich Harrison, Darkchild, Babyface, etc!
I think she has what it takes to make a good R&B/Pop/Hip-Hop album.
I haven’t gave up on her yet!
YES! DEFINITELY SHE SHOULD HE DOESNT GIVE HER HIS BEST WORK AND HE’ S VERY REPITITIVE I THINK SHE SHOULD WORK WITH RICO LOVE SOUNDZ & TIMBALAND & OF COURSE OTHERS BUT NO DREAM
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I don’t care if The Dream USED TO produce hits.The way he composes and produces songs does not flatter Ciara’s voice AT ALL!And he is not even a trustworthy friend tbh.
She has to he doesn’t work on her strengths she is extremely talented and totally rips the stage walking gimmicks eg. Rihanna (yes this ho doesn’t have talent to back her success) Katy. Ke$ha etc soundz produced amazing music with eg. Heavy rotation(the song that could have saved the album IMO) its catchy and could get plays on pop and dance stations anyway I would never say her career is over cus I got faith but its gonna be a hard one for her. Her label destroyed her career aswell as herself and btw why doesn’t she sing like she sings on th ustreams? She sounds extra good
I have a love/hate relationship with The-Dream. Sometimes his tracks are ridiculous (Single Ladies, Run The World and everything on his album) BUT tracks like Schoolin Life, Smash Into You and the rest of 4 are just brilliant.
I think it has to do with Ciara herself, if she can’t make the effort to create great musical arrangements then that’s all there is. People need to stop blaming others when their artists aren’t successful.
YES BECAUSE HE DOES GREAT MUSIC 4 BEY AND ONLY BEY
She needs a good team !! not the DREAM !!!
And it’s not only about The Nightmare, she should let Tricky go too.I respect Tricky Stewart MUCH more and he’s MILES better and more innovative than The-Dream, but he has made some mistakes too with Ciara and he hasn’t really found what suits her.
That was her downfall. Letting the Dream produce her entire album was a major mistake. The same for Mariah Careys Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, the dream profuced iy all and it flopped she shoulda stuck with Jermaine Dupri. They simply do not mesh. He works well with Bey but it doesnt work for Ciara or Mariah. Maybe she should go back to Jazze Pha and Missy Elliott : /
NO RIDE was a banger.l
LOVERS THING. BANGER.
I RUN IT BANGER,
the dream has given ciara many hot songs
ITS JUST HER PROMOTION! ciara had amazing songs on basic insticnt and fatnasy ride but her label did not push it. lets not go back to blaming the producers..
Ciara should work with Missy again, at least one or two tracks.She really understood the texture of Ci’s voice.
her label and promo are her main downfalls. not her producers
Should of left Dream after Fantasy Ride era. But Basic Instinct put the icing on the cake. LEAVE DREAMS ASS ALONG.
@malibu barbie i agree
@edidion yess your so right but i think if he does work with her he should only make 1 track not the whole album she needs another Evolution album but to the tenth power!!
CIARA NEEDS MORE CREATIVE INPUT. CIARA SHOULD KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR HER & WHAT DOESN’T. SHE NEED A SOUND THAT DOESN’T SOUND OUTDATED. THATS ONE OF HER MAIN PROBLEMS. HER SOUND IS VERY DATED AND HER MATERIAL COMES ACROSS AS JUVENILE SOMETIMES. I KNOW SHE ISN’T A VOCAL POWERHOUSE, SO SOULFUL TYPE TRACKS WOULDN’T SUIT HER, BUT SHE NEEDS A MORE MATURE AND INNOVATIVE SOUND!
I think she should!!
The Dream was talkin the most s*** about Basic Instant………
If u have a song writer who is talkin s*** about an artist he has worked, it kinda turns to consumer off!!!
On top of all that Ciara failed to promote her album……
And after constant push backs she released 6months after her hit ‘Ride’………..which caused it to sell horrible.
Who cares? She is a flop no matter what.
The promotion (or lack of it anyway) is a huge factor, but the material itself is even more important.The fact that she has been underperforming is not ONLY The Dream’s fault, because ‘Fantasy Ride’ was her first flop and he wasn’t that active on there.
I want The Dream to be MUCH less involved with her next album, not from a commercial standpoint.I just think that he holds her back MUSICALLY/SONICALLY.’Ride’ was a hit, but could it really push an album???
* horrible= poorly
Ciara = Horrible ass person who is a FLOP !!!
#Give me Britney, Beyonce, Rihanna, Gaga and Nicki !!!!
Ciara needs to work with different producers on the next album. The Dream and Tricky didn’t give her the impact that what should have been throughout this drastic era. Ciara tried to bring back the “Goodies” era but it didn’t work. She has to figure out how this next album is going to potray in her career. I’m not too worried because the main thing is that she left that s***** ass label JIVE and now she’s moving forward to bigger and better things. Ciara always showed growth and substance as an artist but Dream and Tricky failed to capture that. I absoulutley agree about the production Dream did on “4” He is a good producer with certain artists. But with other artists his vision and lack of creativity is not there. I think Dream and Tricky got lost how Ciara started and how she is as an artist. Ciara’s sound is more urban, retro, pop, futuristic type of sound. The Evolution showcased all those genres and that’s how it became successful and she put out the right singles ex. “Get Up”, “Promise”, “Like A Boy”, they all became HITS. “I Can’t Leave Them Alone” and “That’s Right” were chose as singles but failed because they were promoted poorly and that was the cause by JIVE. Ciara is not playing games this time around and I feel and the rest of the fans feel this next album is going to be her BREAKTHROUGH. She’s signing with Epic and L.A. Reid is back to mentor her how she will take this album to heights and beyond. For now Ciara is focused on getting her fans back and gaining new fans while booking and #SLAYING these tours. Until the time is right she will be able to do what she wants creativley on album #5.
She is an overglorified back up dancer……. she should be dancing on Janet, Madonna or Beyonce’s tours.
This blog post is incomplete because you (the writer) assume most know the exact songs Dream has produced for ciara. I have no idea what songs he has done.
I feel like when Ciara came out she was relatalble she had junk in her trunk, she could dance well, and while her vocals aren’t the best she sang songs relatable to the average girl in the hood or urban.
The songs she brought out crossed over and that’s great for her but her second album did not have that urban sound
i feel like jazzy pha created that sound for ciara.
it was a sound coming straight out of Atlanta
Ciara should blame her team for her down fall since they decided she shoud be this pop artist, when infact her first album did not have a pop sound it was urban all the way. They encouraged her to abandon her urban sound and lose all that weight and now she is unrelatable and her music since her first album has been trash
Ciara needs to go back to her roots because those pop fans are very shady they like you than they throw you away…but the real urban fans are right here waiting for her to get back with jazzy and get it crunk
she was the princess of crunk and B
now she’s just a pop star wanna be
get it together
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CIARA needs to work with the more innovative/creative producers out there
particularly big in europe: chase and status, rusko, diplo, breakage, SBTRKT etc…
her sound was always a bit darker than “commercial pop” and i think she should LOOK TO THE UNDERGROUND.
i feel like cici has so much potential but she limits herself too much, she needs to think outside the box…look overseas a bit get real creative and let herself go
ciara is the problem. Dream give every other artist he works with a hit. ciara is not a singer.
dancing doesn’t sell cd’s
Honestly, I love Ciara… but shes not interesting. Theres no unf about her. She dances and can hardly sing. Just bring honest. Tge problem is that theres just isn’t that much of a push against pop our R&B black female singers. Now, I’m not blaming it on race or anything, but how many big time singers do you know that are? Rihanna… Beyonce… Nicki… and thats it really. Ciara needs to sing her heart out or pull a new stunt because dancing impressively is what people care about in concert or mv. Not on the track.
She only has maybe 60,000 real fans/supporters (in the U.S as indicated by her album sales). Who she works with is not going to change that.
The only female BLACK singers who can pull of R&B-Pop is Beyonce, Rihanna, and Nicki !!!
I think Ciara should be a back-up dancer for Rihanna, Beyonce and Nicki !!!
Nicki is about to go on tour in 2012 she can be a back-up dancer for her !
Because Ciara`s career is OVER !!
She should leave his ass he only bring it if hes workin with bey
I’m with @Nonyada! CiCi needs to get back to her roots. She has a predominantly urban/R&B fan base. Why try to switch over to pop??? Get back to the beginning and put out a smash album. I was one of the few who actually purchased Basic Instinct and it was terrible. That pop crap was a killer to my ears and almost every song sounded the same. If we’re going to blame anyone, let’s blame CiCi. She selected those producers and she decided to stay with Jive after the poor handling of Fantasy Ride. And let’s be honest, The Dream no longer produces smash hits for other artists, hell he can’t even do it for himself (see Love King). CiCi, come back hard and dance your ass off. Otherwise, you can always be a model.
Yea she def! Need to move on and really find her nice. Her own Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Shes limited vocally so has to have the right producers. Maybe she should work with Frank Ocean. That’ll be interesting.
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DEAD @ the ones saying that Ciara needs to be a backing dancer.
And DEAD 5X @ the guy that thinks Ciara would be better off as a backing dancer for Rihanna.LOL.Noone would even notice Rihanna if Ciara was on the same stage.
I think were too hard on the Dream sometimes. He’s a hit or miss kind of guy! Ciara should continue working with him. He understands her musical needs to a degree, but she should definitely consider not doing more than 2 to 3 of his songs. She needs Dream, but she should branch out and include: Darckchild, Timbaland, Danja and Breezy ( I think he would surprise us). This would be a winning formula for her!
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No.Why should she?
The question is :Is The Dream giving her bad tracks? No at all
Ciara need more commercial and pop oriented music at the moment.
The mistake she made was to make her music even more urban than her previous album (Love s** and magic) circus.She should have stay that way
Nicki mina’sj more successful single is a pop song:SUPERBASS
B is having a hard time with her “TOO MUCH URBAN SONGS
Rihanna is more successful because of POP SONGS
Cici need to follow usher trend and do more pop-ish/ester dean-esque songs and she’ll be OK
@ ASAP OH PLEASE RIHANNA, BEYONCE ARE KNOW ALL OF OVER THE WORLD !!!!!
CAN CIARA HOLD A CROWD OF 830,000 people like Beyonce i guess not !!!
^^^who said that they’re not known around the world???I just said that if Ciara was a backing dancer for Ciara (even the thought is hilarious) the attention would shift…
@ ASAP WHATEVER CIARA IS LOSER FLOP B**** !!!!!!!!!!
BASIC INSTICT IS A FLOP HELL EVEN RATED R WAS BETTER !!
wow….a flop calling someone else a flop smh….
anyways In MY opinion
A.Ciara shouldn’t experiment with pop.(Not all styles of art work for everyone.)
B.RETIRE the backbend period no ifs,ands,or buts.
C. Kick The Dream’s(and Sean Garrett’s IF he was on the album as well)asses to the curb.
D.If she does experiment,Keep the R&B and SOME hip hop elements but get rid of the excess ‘crunk'(I.e. calling a New Era 5950 your crown.)
@ ISTANN4GAGA BE QUIET YOURE A FLOP !!!!!
Jamir21 chill out!I wasn’t even referring to you…*kanye shrug*
I AGREE WITH WHOEVER SAID SHE SHOULD WORK WITH FRANK OCEAN!!!!!!
LET ME TELL YOU, IF YOU SEE HER LIVE YOU WILL BE BLOWN AWAY…SHE MAY NOT HAVE STRONG VOCALS BUT NEITHER DOES BRITNEY MADONNA OR JANET
BUT SHE SURE DOES HAVE STAGE PRESNECE…AND HER VOICE IS S*** I LOVE LISTENING TO HER SINGING WHEN I WANNA CHILL OUT….YOU DONT WANT A BEYONCE BELTER WHEN YOUR CHILLIN BY THE POOL..
….ALSO SHE NEEDS TO STEP AWAAAAY FROM POLOW/ DARKCHILD/ DREAM ETC AND LOOK TO N.E.W INNOVATIVE PRODUCERS NOT STUFF THAT SOUNDS LIKE ITS FROM 2005
ciara .. ! go to TIMBALAND ! and you will be on a whole new level ! you need a producer like him ! your voice is average for dance music ! you need to go back to the real deal ! TIMBALAND is the one ! the dream can do 1 song or 2 ! but the whole album to be produced by him is a big fat NO !
everyone should break ties with the dream. every song by him sounds the same
on top of that, he destroys careers, e.g. mimi
I don’t think it is fare to put so much blame on the Dream. Tricky Stewart did more of the writing on her last CD. The Dream has no writing credits on “Basic Instinct” only production credits and that is for the work that was written and recorded by Ciara and Tricky Stewart. The Dream is hit or miss. Yes, he produced Single Ladies for Beyonce but he also produced Girls Run the World for Beyonce. So with Ciara, she does not need him to produce an entire album.
she just needs to reconcile with jazzy pha and let him guide her musically because honestly he really understood ciara musically. Dream isn’t creating hits like he used to and he is not the sole creator of Bey’s songs for her album. Look at the mess he and tricky did to Xtina’s bionic album…
She just need to have a good producer…to work with her !!!!
I’ve heard the argument about Ciara needing to reunite with Jazze Pha a million times, but I really disagree.Crunk n’ b is irrelevant now and Jazze Pha has kind of lost his touch.And Ciara cannot go back to ‘Goodies’ and no artist in general can go back to his/her old work.Ciara was clever trying to go from crunk n’b to full r’n’b on the Evolution, then trying to go A BIT more pop on ‘Fantasy Ride’ and then working with more base on ‘Basic Instinct’.All clever moves, so with some label support, she can pull it off without having to go back to ‘Goodies’
and a few last things (since she already dropped Jive)
PROMO PROMO PROMO!!!Last era I recalled people complaining about her promotion.Also don’t push your album back too many times…normal listeners(not stans) don’t keep up like that!
She could actually choreograph for beyonce, rihanna etc… now that’s a real idea!
HELL YES! Cut them ties quick!
The-Dream is and always has been a HIT-OR-MISS type of songwriter and producer.
Not only should Ciara cut ties, so should Mariah Carey-both don’t even need to think about going back to The-Dream. Even Rihanna did so, and they got many hits together–wonder if it had anything to do with The-Dream saying his # 1 collaborator was Beyonce, when everyone knows he should have said Rihanna since they have way more hits together.
* But with that all aside, she needs to RUN away from The-Dream as fast as she can! I am going to need her to reconnect with Jazze Pha, if he still produces, she (Ciara) needs to get back into writing and co-writing ALL of her music like she used to, and maybe link of with Ester Dean, since she’s what hot now, but only if she doesn’t give Ciara rehashed materiel
=All her materiel is beginning to sound similar: “Rude Boy” “What’s My Name?” “Lose Control” “Right There” and I’m certain there is countless others.
Ciara needed to make Kelly Rowlands album only with more Motivation less Commander.
I wouldn’t necessarily want Ciara to cut ties with Dream altogether. But NOT produce an entire album affiliated WITH him. She can continue to work with him IF she chooses. The main thing is focusing getting her career back to where it started. A whole NEW production, outlook, FRESH music, SUPPORTIVE label, GREAT team, and HEAVY promo is what she NEEDS.
Rihanna is a hit master unlike Ciara who had only a hit since 2004 !?
Rihanna has 10 number ones !
1. Pon De Replay
2. S.O.S
3. Umbrella
4. Take A Bow
5. Disturbia
6. Live Your Life
7. Rude Boy
8. Love The Way You Lie
9. Only Girl (In the World)
10. S&M
11. Cheers (Drink to That) hopefully !!!!!
Only the Beatles, MJ, Mariah, Madonna has more than her and a few others !
Ciara her only number one hit is Goodies !!!
Wow. So many stupid people in these comments.
Lets get the facts straight…
– Ciara is an R&B/Pop artist, she has has pop hits and R&B hits so why are people saying she can’t do it when she already has?
– The Dream & Ciara made magic with and had a semi hit with “Ride” but him doing the whole album is a bad idea and Basic Instinct flopped because of the label not Ciara or the music.
– Ciara is known all over the world, she is a multi platinum selling, grammy award winning artist who has had 8 Top 10 singles on the Hot 100 and 12 top 10 singles on the R&B charts with 4 #1 hit singles. ( 1 on the Hot 100, 3 on the R&B Charts, and 1 on the Pop Charts). So she is FAR from a flop, Her last two albums were flops but every artists flops. CIARA herself and her career as a whole is not a flop.
– Ciara is one of the best performers/dancers of our generation. Ciara & Chris Brown are the best female & male dancers out right now. Nobody can touch them.
@JAMIR21:I STAN FOR THE BEEHIVE AND NAVY
21 and ignorant and childish you are. You making fun of my fav but NEWSFLASH she STILL #SLAYS your fav. ——->
@ BEAST
The haters know what she is about. They like her. They STAN for her more than her REAL FANS. lol! 😉 Don’t pay them no mind.
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@ GIFTEDSINCE92 NO THE F*** SHE DONT !!!!!
RIHANNA AND BEYONCE IS BETTER THAN C-ERROR !!!!!!
C-ERROR DONT SING SHE JUST WISPERS !!!!!!
@JAMIR21: I STAN 4 THE BEEHIVE&THE NAVY !!!!
Says who? The problem isn’t Rihanna nor Beyonce. It’s YOU. #FAIL—–>
@ GIFTEDSINCE92 B**** SHUT UP AND GO LISTEN TO BASIC INSTINCT THE FLOP BY C-ERROR !!!!!!! SHE CAN DANCE BUT CANT SING FOR S*** !!! EVERYTIME I HEAR HER ON THE RADIO I HAVE TO TURN UP RADIO TO LISTEN TO HER….SHE WHISPERS !!!!
#BEYONCE AND RIHANNA ALL DAYYYY AND U BASIC B****** WILL DEAL !!!!!!
DON’T BE HATIN ON CIARA…..THIS POST IS A MESS IT GOT WORST FROM LAST NIGHT…smh *clicks X on browser*
@GIFTEDSINCE92
Don’t argue with @JAMIR21 he is 13….. Everybody has had it with him….just ignore him
Omg hhhaha people are saying, Ciara should be nicki’s backup dancer…..
CIARA IS STILL AND WILL BE ALWAYS BIGGER THAN THAT FAT UGLY BARBIE!!!!
ALMOST EVERY ARTIST IS SUCCESFUL WITH A DEBUT ALBUM…
WE WILL SEE NICKI IN THE NEXT YEARS…
I CAN TELL, NICKI WONT BE NO LONGER IN THE GAME… SAME SOUND, SAME S***…
NOT EVEN RAPPING PLZ B****…
SHE IS TALKING IN HER LIVE PERFORMANCES HHAHA, NOT RAPPING…
AND FOR THE RIHANNA FANS….
CIARA IS AND ALWAYS BE A BETTER SINGER AND DANCER…
CIARA SINGS RIHANNA OUT PLZZ….
RIHANNA CAN’T EVEN HOLD A NOTE… AND cant dance for a s***!
Rihanna is doing better than ciara, thats true…. ( No talent… )
W8 for Ciara!! 5th Album will killlll EPIC RECORDS, NEW TEAM !!!
@ VIDIII YEAH RIGHT RIHANNA`S NEW ALBUM IS GOING TO KILL C-ERROR`S CAREER FOR EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!
RIHANNA CAN SING WAY BETTER THAN C-ERROR !!!
C-ERROR DONT EVEN SING AS I TOLD YALL SHE JUST WHISPERS !!!
Ciara is overlooked as a vocalist.She is not going to be the next Whitney Houston or anything, but she is trained and she also has an adequate range and good control.In the beginning, her voice was shaky but she’s worked hard and now it’s much better.She has a really smooth tone (and, to get back to topic, The-Dream doesn’t showcase it at all)
She can’t blame no one but herself.She should create her own music and work on her damn vocals.She also should switch up her style.
@JAMIR21
Get your squiny little self outta this post….Cause it dam sure says CIARA! Why are you trolling? This is why no stanbase accepts you!!
Dont worry y’all JAMIR21 was disowned by the Rihanna Navy and the BeyHive…nobody likes him…
@ Yeabey B**** nobody likes you and there is alot of people !!!! You canr affect me !!!
@jamir21: I STAN 4 THE BEEHIVE&THE NAVY !!!!
Rihanna is doing more pop now, thats why,
plz her 1st 2 albums ware also lack, low 1st week sales everything…
And Ciara was over rihanna in the beginning…
Ciara The evolution 1st week sales: 325K
Rihanna Loud: 192K
PLZZZ Sit down were you are…
Ciara has a numer 1 album, and rihanna still nottttttt……
Ciara is dancing to much on her performances, thats why she sings 50%
If ciara only sings she is much betterrrrr, and everyone nows thattt tho! 😉
And now is Rihanna doing better than Ciara…
But wait shel be back 😉
Ciara sings better / CLOSED
if ciara released fantasy ride NOW. it wud have been a MAJOR ALBUM.
she released them at the wrong times… in my opinion.
basic insticnt wudda been a perfect follow up to the evolution.
after that then she cudda did fantasy ride.
but im nt gna blame her… cuz its her label/promo
He really does need to go. The end.
I love the dream but please dont let him near Lp #5 basic instinct is very weak and lacks personalty to me should of been a mixtape. in today’s music world you have to go pop the urban market is almost dead with urban artist barely selling 100k 1st week of a lp release. ciara biggest hits on a global scale are love s** magic taking back my love and 1 2 step she needs to do r&b and pop with promo no leaks and no push backs
@JAMIR21
You are quite the b**** yourself 😉 ….stop trolling though…forreal….This is why nobody will like the “Bey Stans” because we have people like you running around hating everyone who sells less albums that Rihanna or Beyonce…You don’t like Ciara? fine! but how will doing what you are doing now make you feel better?
@MALIBU BARBIE
I agree….wrong timing…for both her last 2 releases
@ Yeabey You need some proper grammar lessons !!!!
@ VIDIII Maybe because that was that crunk crap era from 2004-2006 !!!!
@JAMIR21
Kid, do you know what grammar is? I just proof-read my comment to look for grammar errors and there were none! I noticed that some of these insults you give to people were copied from me during my dragging sessions. Speaking of grammar lessons, you posted the following:
“@ Yeabey B**** nobody likes you and there is alot of people !!!! You canr affect me !!!”
umm what the hell is “canr?”…you really argue like a a little gi….I wont even bother to say it… 😀
good day JAMIR
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She should, see should say bye to him, and go with something fresh!
she should do half R&b and half pop, take the chris brown f.a.m.e approach, r&b music is dying so fast, basic instinct sounded like a mixtape, hot ass mess, boring album, no substance, fantasy ride was her best album, but would have went gold if it was promoted right, she need to hit it hard with timbland, missy, blanglish, claude kelly, the runners, etc, this is her make it or break it album, leave wack ass rodney and the dream alone.
CICA HONEY RUN FAR AWAY FROM THIS FOOL!
I remember what he said about her last CD! He basically said that it was her last chance she was either going to be successful or be regarded as a has been! Of course he was saying this about Cici while singing the praises of other female artists in the game! The Dream is not loyal to her so screw him I say!!
R.I.P. Amy Baby!!
All artist should cut ties with “The Dream”
Mariah Carey ” Memoirs of an imperfect angel” “E=MC2”
Rihanna “Rated R”(Ester Dean saved that record)
Ciara “Basic Instinct”
Beyonce “Run the World”
Mary J Blige “Stronger with each tear”
Hell, even his own work. The dream isn’t an artist that completely captures emotions. He writes from a generalized stand point. The same with Ester Dean…
When hiring songwriters, artist need people like Missy Elliot, Diane W., Ne-Yo, Crystile, etc.
UHHHHHH DUH YES CIARA NEEDS TO LEAVE HIM ALONE FOR HER PROJECTS.
THE DREAM CAN’T EVEN WRITE FOR HIMSELF. HIS PROJECT, MARIAHS, CIARA, ECT…. FLOPPED…… THE DREAM GETS PUSHED HARD BY BEYONCE AND SHE MAKES HIM RE-DO ABOUT 3/4 TIMES
Ciara is a MESS.COM and I would love to see her be successful. The Dream lost all respect with me when he decided to work with Kim K. I knew then he was going into gutter territory. I hope Reid can turn her career around.
WHY PUT THE FAULT ON THE DREAM. CIARA IS A FLOP WITH THE DREAM OR WITHOUT THE DREAM. DONT JUST BLAME HIM. EVEN IF SHE SEPERATES FROM THE DREAM, SHE WILL PROBABLY STILL FLOP. BECAUSE:
SHE CANT SING
CANT WRITE
CANT PRODUCE
NOT ENTERTAINING.
don’t blame it on the dream…cici..
…
Sold my first site for more than $20,000 after learnin how make money doin s*** i already do… http://goo.gl/Kov1P believe or not at end of day i still made 5 figures..
if by entertainer you mean great dancer you need more than that.
@SHESDUMB
OW Plzz Bey stans everywhere….
I love beyonce, but dont talk s*** about CiCi !
Both can Sing
Both can dance,
Beyonce is a better singer
Ciara is a better dancer and perfomer
Ciara___
She Can sing you out!
She can dance circles around you!
She wroted so many songs that you even couldn’t think about it
thats why goodies was a flopsong don’t you, ahaa 😉
She entertains you out of this World!!!
She gets more many that you have ever imagened…
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Umm…YES! Was that even a question?
You CERROR stans are a bunch of idiots. It’s funny how people go so damn hard on the talented Ms. Kelly Rowland, when CERROR can’t sing at all! She just needs to give it up! I’m tired of y’all blamingThe Dream and Trickey. If y’all don’t know their credits, then don’t try to act like they aren’t talented. It’s funny how they wrote and produced #1 hits for Rihanna, Beyonce, Justin Beiber, and Britney Spears!!!!!!!!! CERROR wanted to make that ghetto, bubblegum, shallow music and that’s what they gave her! Mariah wanted to continue to make that lullabuy, simple, R&B-Hop-Hop music and that’s what they created for her!!!! So don’t put the blame on them. They are some of the best producers in the game. And Polow did produce a song for CERROR on the album and it was wack as hell! Point blank, CERROR is a flop and her time is up. How you going to have 2 albums back to back not even come close to going GOLD? And that video posted above is embarassing! B**** couldn’t even finish a damn line of that Michael Jackson song! She was all out of breath and sounded awful. And all she did was walk around the stage! That’s what you call entertaining? You guys say Kelly aint no Beyonce, well sh** CERROR aint no damn Beyonce and never will come close, especially since she can’t even sing to begin with!
@4FLOPSTAYINYOURLANEBIOTCH
co-sign the dream workin with Kim K. comment I was like WTF?
ci ci seem like she a nice person , i think La being on a project would be best for her he has got a back catelogue of hits .
Run the world to me is not the best production for beyonce and folks should remember that crtics were expecting bey album 4 to flop and the only reason why it is doing well is because she has loyal fan base and they would buy anything .
production wise i think she should find new producers or maybe the neptunes they allways do wonders lol
Like I said Ciara will come back harder and #SLAY. There’s no gurantee she will remain irrelevant or a has been. She’s been booking performances left and right. She’s on her GRIND she’s HUNGRY shes at a point in her career where she’s breaking through. I read the comments and everybody KNOWS she’s TALENTED and one of the best female entertainers in this generation. The haters reply the same late and tired comments they NEVER mattered to begin with. They are still #PRESSED because they know their own fav will never could never do what she does and that’s being an entertainer. I love Ciara she’s been through alot through the phase of her career and this time there’s no holding back, no regrets. I agree with the majority of the comments about The Dream and his productions. I never been interested in his music as far as the quality and production. I feel he puts out the same repetitive sound. Everything sounds the same to me. I think he’s overrated because even though he has produced records that were successful hits that doesn’t neccessarily mean he can do the same for other artists. And that goes with Ciara. Ciara needs to work with different producers who will execute and successfully give her the sound that will suit her as an artist. Maybe Dream can still continue to work with her because he produced “Ride” and that song is one of the most popular successful urban records. The Dream needs to really understand how Ciara wants her music to represent her as an artist and I hope if she does goe back working with him he will do his part without half assing and it’ll be cool. Ciara is focused on building her fansbase back at the moment because I know when the time is right the next era will BE F****** EPIC. 😉
RTW IS EXCELLENT BUT IT UNDERPERFORM
SUCCESS IS ALSO HYPE+BUZZ+PROMO
CIARA SEEMS TO LACK ALL 3
STOP CALLING HER C ERROR SHE IS NOT AN ERROR.I CANT AT YOU GUYS THINKING BECOZ A SONG FLOPPED IT WAS BAD??
IF A SONG IS SUCCESSFUL,IT S A CLASSIC
SMHHHH
She should definitely stop working with him and so should Mariah Carey. He gives them recycled material. He wrote Question Existing for Rihanna, but wrote bland ass Speechless for Ciara. He wrote epic Single Ladies for Beyonce and Umbrella for Rihanna but the over sexual Ride for Ciara. I know that Ciara does co-write a lot of her songs, but the type of contract she had with Jive forced her to only be a co-writer, not a primary writer. I am pretty sure Ciara wants to expand her lyrical content, production styles, image and overall musical sound into broader audience. Every single song he’s written and produced for her except Speechless and Keep Dancing on Me, has been about money and s**. Ciara wrote most of the songs on The Evolution album and produced half of the album and then look at Fantasy Ride and Basic Instinct, a bunch of bland, radio friendly songs with no substance with the exception of like 2 or 3 songs on each album. Hell look what happened when he stopped working with Rihanna as much, we got her masterpiece album, Rated R. The-Dream uses recycled material for everyone really. I really hope Ciara does sign with Epic Records and if so, I hope LA Reid allows her to have the creative control he gave her on her 1st two albums.
I meant to say Loud as Rihanna’s masterpiece
no …. she should try someone different for a change
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The dream & tricky were good. BI was cool. Speechless was a good track; the album had no support. Shame it was her most cohesive and solid work; no frenetic. Goodies, seriously classic its not but cool in its moment. The Evolution – throwback 80s sound – your core grew up during those times; overall useless and filler. Fantasy Ride – 1 year too early; everything on the top 40 for the past 2 years sounds like this now.
It’s not Tricky or the Dream’s fault that Ciara’s team waited until the week the album dropped to promote BI. By the time BI dropped, Ride had run its course, and Gimme Dat (which had no label support) wasn’t making any noise on the radio because the label never wanted it to be released. , and in the end, it turns out that the label was right, because Gimme Dat wasn’t a hit. Compare that to the singles off of Chris Brown’s “Fan of a Fan” mixtape, which smashed without the benefit of JIVE’s support. If there’s no interest in Ciara, then she won’t sell, no matter what writer/producer she has working on her tracks. Most of her fans from Goodies, Evolution and even Fantasy Ride eras have moved on to other artists.
So many of her stans are so quick to blame the label and lack of promo for FR’s demise, knowing full well that JIVE let her record with Justin Timberlake for Love, S**, Magic,and gave her a huge budget for the Go Gir video, which flopped. Ciara tried to transition from Crunck to Pop format, and it failed. Sometimes, that happens, but of course it’s always someone else’s fault beside her’s.
Ciara was supposedly grinding, but every time you turned around, there were more pics of Ci Ci out and about with Kim K and LaLa, then there were of her performing. Her whole socialite routine cost her fans and respect because many felt like she wasn’t behaving like somone who’s last album flopped misreably and was in desperate need of a hit to maintain her relevance. If Ci Ci had the money to finance Gimme Dat video, then she could’ve booked a low key club tour before BI dropped. Contrast that with Chris Brown, who, after Grafitti bombed, recorded with any and everyone who would let him, put out multiple mix-tapes and videos on his own dime, fighting for his career like it was on life support.
If Ciara’s new deal with LA Reid doesn’t pan out, whose fault will it be then?
CIARA IS GOING TO BE FINE WITH THE HATERS OR WITHOUT THEM.SHE IS TALENTED AND IF ANYONE ON HERE SAYS THAT SHE IS NOT IS JUST HATING POINTBLANKPERIOD. WHATS CRAZY ABOUT THESE COMMENTS IS IF SHE WASN’T TALENTED, COULDN’T WRITE OR PRODUCE THEN WHY IS SHE HERE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WHY ARE YOU HERE IF SHE IS SUCH A NONFACTOR??? IT JUST PROVES THAT SHE IS A FACTOR IN THIS MUSIC INDUSTRY AND SHE HAS A FUTURE TOO. SHE JUST HAD THE WRONG TEAM FOR THE LAST TWO ALBUMS BUT THAT HAVEN’T STOP MAGAZINES OR OTHER VENUES FROM CALLING HER AND WANTING HER TO PERFORM EVEN THOUGH HER TWO ALBUMS DID NOT DO WELL. SO LET’S STOPWITH THIS CRAP THAT SHE IS NOT WORTHY TO BE IN THIS BUSINESS BC SHE IS. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE THIS POWERHOUSE SINGER IN ORDER TO MAKE IN THE BUSINESS. PPL NOW WANT THEIR MONEYS WORTH WHEN GOING TO THESE CONCERTS YOU HAVE TO ENTERTAIN AND PLEASE THE CROWD AND SHE DOES THAT. HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW I DON’T THINK THAT DREAMS SHOULD PRODUCE A WHOLE ALBUM BUT ONE OR TWO TRACKS WOULDN’T HURT HER BUT SHE MOST DEF NEED TO WORK WITH NEW PPL AND GIVE US SOME MORE RNB POP LIKE PROMISE (POLOW) DANCE WITH ME (DREAMS N TRICKY) THE TITLE (JASPER) I RUN IT (CIARA) AND YOU CAN GET IT (CIARA) AND SHE WILL BE FINE 🙂
The main reason why Ciara needs to leave The-Dream is because her voice sound EXACTLY like his to a T and if he can’t sell his own voice there is no way he can sell somebody else who sounds just like him. Beyonce and Rihanna don’t sound anything like him so when you hear those songs you don’t hear The-Dream. As you all know before she started working with him none of her songs sounded like him nor did her voice…….#JustSayin
Ciara needs to be a pop/rnb chick..she needs to get with Guetta, Dr Luke, Shellback, Afrojack (he would get her a hit she could shuffle to), and then have Ptibull on some tracks, sure fire hits right there..she’s on Sony, so all these collabs can happen..and the videos would be nutz with lots of dancing..that is how she gets back on point
I feel it was more of the lack of promotion that caused the album to not perform well. The Dream can produce good and bad songs….and Ciara needs to find what style suits her and work with a range of different producers.
Only a fool would break ties with the man behind Beyonce’s “Single Ladies”, Rihanna’s “Umbrella” or Justin Bieber’s “Baby”. However I do believe Ciara should take her talents to some other people.
There are a lot of good producers/DJ around right now, like someone said: Dr Luke, David Guetta, Afrojack or Pitbull.
Ci-Ci just need to find some motivation and get her head back in her business. She has her own lane and plus, “Nobody can see her on and off stage”. Be back, girl!
she shouldn’t make another whole album with the Dream and she needs to explore and establish her sound which she hasn’t done yet. I personally dont think Ciara can sing or has a particularly nice sounding voice, think that Ciara’s voice is lite but not smooth like Janet or Aaliyah’s which makes it quite limited.
Ciara’s career in singing was always going to be limited and she should’ve branched into other projects like TV judging, films or modeling while her career was at its heights instead of buying shoes.
I agree. It was lack of promotion. The album itself had badass songs that I liked. If it weren’t for beyonce being already famous, 4 wouldn’t have sold that well either. Ciara has very little crossover appeal and only has mostly black and minority fans. But I like how ciara stays true to herself instead of getting into all this techno stuff. I rly hope she doesn’t do that. That will make me dislike her. I hope she continues to have great urban music with a good producer and right promotion then her sells might do better. She’ll need a number one hit song like kelly in her comeback in order to have good standing in mainstream.
@Dennis are you kidding? Ciara’s tone is on-lock. She just doesn’t have a lot of power to her voice. She does have range tho and a sweet mezzo-soprano voice that’s pretty. And how can u say janet’s voice is good but not ciara’s when they sound almost similar?
It’s not him…it’s her…other than being a great dancer that’s pretty much it for her…and the music that made her popular she’s starting to move away from that…no one wants Ciara the soul singer because that’s not what she is good at, people want the Ciara when she first started out
TBH, ‘The-Nightmare’ hasn’t really done anything good for her.
She needs new producers and much more relevant ideas and music.
Cici has so much talent and with the new label deal she could do so much better, I hope L.A. Reid makes her work with new, fresh producers.
Hit Makers.
When an artist enlist producers ect… they are expecting THEM to make the track hott so they can do their thing. If Ciara had laid down banging vocals and did all she could that s***** music
The Dream did for her would have STILL made it flop So yes NIGHTMARE had a major part in the flop.
Ciara needs to mix the pallet. There seems to be a lot of men doing this electro-R&B/hip-hop, yet I can’t think of one female who is?
Despite flopping “Fantasy Ride” was a really great LP, and I believe that if she tries to re-create that she will find success again. Especially with the current dance craze of today.
@ILOVERIHANNA>BEYONCEISLAME
I guess its a matter of opinion, personally i cannot hear the similarities in their voices. Hey, each to their own.
lol at some of u haters. our southern,scorpio is a great entertainer and she is only 25. lol.
she is the best female dancer in the game up their with yes janet jackson. she is an entertainer!
she will do the damn thing.a ll she needs is a good team to get her performing on the today show and late night shows and she will be the big star she should be. having other acts opening for her and BEING A MEGA STAR.
haters keep hating. atleast she is on your mind. lol
GOOO CICI!!! U GOT IT GIRL!
I agree with so many people on here!!!! The dream was all over her last 2 albums and look what happened. DREAM IS OVERRATED!!!!! I would love teedra moses to write some songs for her but I doubt that will happen. I think mistakes have been made since day 1 in ciara’s career, goodies should have been re-released with more songs and singles, promise and that’s right should have been global singles, fantasy ride only had 2 international singles & promo stopped too quick, basic instinct should of had much more content on it. if so many songs get leaked then make up for those leaks by putting more songs on the album not less!!!!!!!! But after all that I really think & believe that this is the rebirth of ciara!!! Cant wait till LA gets her to perform on X-factor U.S.A that is going to be sooooo epic!!!! #TEAMCIARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe she will do well, L.A. has an ear for good music. I hope he completely changes Ciara’s image too. Ciara needs a different sound and look. She’s a major talent. Rihanna is no where near as talented as Ciara, so whoever wrote the paragraph that Rihanna has had major hits, her day is coming LOL U can only sell s** for so long, eventually it gets old!
He’s becoming generic as Hell, and she does need to seek other producers.
It’s not the writers or producers, it’s her. Instead of appearing on Keeping up with the Kardashians and on Lala show, she should of been in the studio working. You can’t blame other people for her failure. dancing can only get you so far, instead putting 100% in dancing maybe she should put 100% in singing. She kept pushing the album back, to be honest her last album was trash. She’s not the only artist that been pushed to the side almost every artist that’s out din’t have their labels “backing” them at first. Chris Brown label wasn’t backing him after that incident, until Chris funded his own money for dueces. She should of been recording on her own dime and time. Heck, rihanna may can not sing or dance but she has that appeal to her.
Last time I checked this was a ciara post not a beyonce post or rihanna. Anywho, cirara doesn’t perform better then Beyonce, let’s just keep it real, it takes SINGING and other capabilities then “dancing”. You have to become one with your audience and ciara doesn’t have that right now, she doesn’t even know what sound she wants, how can people believe in you as an artist if your clueless to what you want?
Ciara has two flopped albums, that is VERY hard to make a comeback after that, she should look into opening dance studio like Mya has done. Ciara should make a work out DVD that would sell like crazy, she should “branch” into other business ventures.
In everyone’s mind, its like she trying to be Aaliyah, janet and Michael mixed into one, she needs to find her own lane. That tired ass back bend needs to be RETIRED becuse it’s STALE!!! If Rihanna can do that back bend, then Ciara Knows she needs to quit doing it.
Ciara is not the better dancer, theres a difference between a club dancer (ciara) and a versatile dancer (Mya, Kelly, Chris). That’s why people are attracted to them.
If she wants to be known as a dancer, then maybe she should stop singing, because there will never be another Michael, she will never come close, she can’t even sing.
She needs to STOP trying to sing Michael and anyone elses songs, and she needs to start working behind the record label back recording music, becuase THINGS are not handed to you free, you have to work HARD for it.
LA REID can’t even help her career, her first CD was okay, I only like 4 songs off it, her second I only liked 3, her third and fourth was straight up trash!!!!
Whoever mention Beyonce, please stop!! Beyonce album was not expected to flop, this is actually her highest rated album by the music critics, 73 that’s very good. It was a vocal album not a pop album. Anywhoo you can’t compare Bey and Ciara, beyonce is on a whole other level 16 years in the game. If you wasnt to comkpare somebody, it’s more like Rihanna and ciara. Heck , you can’t even compare Kelly or Ciara.
BEYONCE AND KELLY, LETOYA =16 yrs. ALL got signed at 12
Don’t compare them
@Jeanet
Been to the clubs and haven’t seen any female do what she does on the stage…… seen many try when the song comes on at the club bc they rehearse all day to get it just incase the dj played it but never craft it. So for you to say she is a club dancer is telling me you haven’t seen her perform live. Bet you this she can do any dance moves of the ppl you mention hands down. Your statements you made jus don’t make ANY sense to me at all just bc she pays tribute to MJ don’t mean she is trying to be him. If it wasn’t for the Michaels Janets and Aaliyahs the ppl you mention wouldn’t even be up for conversation. Everyone in the music industry was ‘INSPIRE” by some great entertainer or singer before them but that don’t mean they are trying to be them. They take that inspiration and channel and make it their own. Im really going to need some of you to stop with these CRAZY AS COMMENTS!!! But then again you can have your own opinions. And you are so right LA can’t save her career that is all on Ciara and she has fight so she will be back 🙂 Just in time for all you haters to continue to hate on LMAO
How about Jazze Pha? He’s made quite a lot of hits for Ciara a long time ago just like 1,2 Step and my favorite Get Up.
Ofcourse, Ciara was so refreshing, music wise even given the limited vocals.
She came out speaking on TRUE topics and brought soul in the mix never forgetting the worldwide and dance crowd. She needs to go back to making party music, touch on more real topics and expand from just singing about s** and male bashing.
Dream and Tricky are so stagnant it’s not even a joke, they don’t even give Ciara the best music. So idk why she keeps going back. Bring in Will.I.Am, Rico,Stargate, Ester/Polow, Swizzy,Kanye, Soundz, Infininty, and some new producers.
LOL @ the person who said they had a Love/Hate feeling for Dream which i feel too. We all know that Ciara has chosen not to b a Beyonce and Rhianna and try to keep most of her sound Urban. All theses attempts at pop sound dont work. I mean when u think about it her biggest pop hit was Goodies and that song is straight Ghetto, hood, and urban. She even had the biggest pop male “JT” on THE record “Love,S**,Magic” and that only reached #10.
As for Dream how do u tell ur artist not only to NOT evolve but go back. Cool but it didnt work. To work with a artist u have to know thier sound so either he doesnt care for it or doesnt like it because he damn sure doest bring it to the project. I think if he just sat down for a good hour and a half and listened to ” The Evolution” we would have got a good Basic Instinct Hell maybe even a good Fantasy Ride.
Sadly all that has happened to the last 2 albums is not, even though he is a good Factor, Dreams fault. Ciara her self is also the blame. I think she had TOO MUCH freedom on her hands. Jazzy Phae was her mentor he ALWAYS had Ciara’s brand on his mind. Dream was only thinking bout a hit. Ask her wats her fav album, shes gonna say FR cause she got to do wat ever she wanted to do. so that is where L.A. Reid is perfect because the better she does the better he looks. Period.
so all in all Dream can work with her but not on the whole project.