For over a year, there has been much publisized bad-blood between Hip-Hop femcee’s Nicki Minaj and Lil Kim. Billed as a battled of the old generation vs the new, the feud has spilled over into their respective fan groups, with debate raging on the daily as to who is better, who’s ‘past it’, and who never was ‘it’.
Ever keen to hear what the streets are saying, That Grape Juice hit Hollywood to hear what the public think of ‘beef’, allegations of copying, and whole lot more.
This is ‘The Word…On Nicki Minaj v Lil Kim’
They was reading the s*** out of Lil Kim…LMFAO
Do I need to remind people that Niciki is only on her first cd! Lil Kim had numerous cd’s with major hits on each of them.
NIKKI IS THE QUEEN.. SOMEBODY PLEASE WALK GRANDMA KIM TO HER SEAT
THIS, I was initially on Kim’s side but the bottom line is just because you came first doesn’t mean you’re the best.
Nicki’s flow is far hotter than Kim’s ever was.
Woorrrrd? Nicki has a better flow than Kim…? KML
I’m no NM fan, but I’m for the saying “Everyone got their time to shine”. Kim had her time, now that it’s over she’s bitter because NM is getting all the shine. Come on now, u’ve had all the love so far, move over so someone else can get some. And I think it’s two diff styles. LK was vulgar and gangster. I don’t know lots of NM’s songs, but the ones I’ve heard are nothink like Kim’s.
@DEE
YEA YOUR RIGHT NIKKI ONLY HAS HAD 1 ALBUM.. BUT YET SHE HAS MANAGED TO ACHIEVE MORE SUCCESS AND MAINSTREAM NOTERIETY THAN KIM HAS IN HER ENTIRE 16 YR CAREER AND KIM IS BITTER AND JEALOUS BECAUSE OF THAT.. KIM FEELS LIKE SHE IS THE ONLY FEMALE THAT CAN WEAR A COLORED WIG AND GIRLY CLOTHES.. I GUESS ANYBODY THAT WEARS HEELS, BRAS, AND MAKEUP IS COPYING AFTER HER TOO? KIM HAS ISSUES, HER OBVIOUS ADDICTION TO PLASTIC SURGERY EXPLAINS THAT.. NIKKI’S MUSIC SOUNDS NOTHIN LIKE KIM’S SO I DONT SEE WHERE SHE GETS THIS “COPYING” CLAIM.. NOTHING IS NEW UNDER THE SUN, KIM IS THE MOST JUVENILE 36 Y/O WOMAN IVE EVER SEEN
Are you dumb? Lil Kims first CD was double platinum in the U.S, which means over 2million. Nicki could never
Lil Kim 1st album took 6 years to go double platinum go check the records. Pink Friday has sold 1.5 million in less than a year. What is your point?
on da real if u are comparing thier first album then Hardcore>>>> pink friday any day n if u are a fan of hiphop u should be ashamed, its not all about record sells, its about the longevity. kim’s first album is what shaped female hiphop till dis day, record sells or not, its been nearly 20 yrs n everybody still wants a female rapper like kim and lets be honest, nicki is highly influenced by kim. its not jus bout colorful wigs, kim was da first to rock a skirt, s** appeal n some high hills and rap, she was da one to bring gucci, prada, louis vatan, aint no female rapper or even girls from the hood was wearin those before kim, only white folks was wearin those brand. now name 1 upcoming female rapper u see aint doing those things that i named.
Hardcore is a classic HIP HOP album. Pink Friday is pop garbage. No comparison
Hardcore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pink Friday
Damn ‘Nikki is Queen’ you said exactly what I’ve been wondering, like are the ‘she’s copying me’ claims really about wigs and such? Ironically what does matter (their sound) is miles apart but Kim wants to stress about an image (one she’s clearly having issues with herself, can she even breath through her nose any more?).
LMAO at the dude who says he masterbated to the hardcore CD cover, damn folks can be honest.
But yeah…past Black Friday Kim needs to remember the majority of folks ain’t heard nothing like the woman in the vid said, makes it hard for her to maintain.
missy (mister meaner ) dat king of female hip hop wait till da new album drops nikki who
Kim done tod y’all why their beefing but everyone wants to ignore what she says, if y’all knew how much shes stolen offa kim, y’all wud think differently,that man with the CAP n shades was speakin the damn TRUTH
Kim done tod y’all why their beefing but everyone wants to ignore what she says, if y’all knew how much shes stolen offa kim, y’all wud think differently,that man with the CAP n shades was speakin the damn TRUTH…. anywho im gna keep posting this link till ppl understand this beef >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCw85qssvyY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL <<< THE TRUTH ABOUT NICKI MINAJ
Niccki minaj!!!!!!! F*****uckin ROCKS lil kim shld tke a chill pill plz her tymz upl
To compare the two is ridiculous. Lil Kim is more gangsta and Nicki is more for the pop audience. Lil Kim has had her shot at fame and Nicki is having hers. I think Nicki will last for a little while.
@ NIKKI IS QUEEN
YOU SMOKING DOPE AND DON’t KNOW WTF YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!
Why Is Nicki “Queen”? You Don’t Become A Queen With One Album!
If ANYTHING She’s Te Only B**** Out, Wait Till She Gets Competition, Or If She’ll Ever Get Competition, Then Decide If She’s Queen.
The Only Queen Of Hip Hop Is MISSY
& You Basic Barbies WILL DEAL!
#KingB2011
No comparison! We saw how Kim’s career evolved in a decade, NM’s has lasted less than 3 years. Lil’Kim delivered a classic, HARDCORE that no other female mc can ever reach.Nicki’s album is awful bar Roman’s Revenge but I don’t know where she can take it, so I won’t compare
People please………….i would agree with dee on lil kim has numerous of cds with hit on dem but nicki minaj has one with almost all her album songs were hit so do the maths please
All I can do is to compare the Hardcore album/era to Pink Friday album/ era. OBVIOULY Hardcore’s skits >>>>>>> Pink Friday’s singles and one bar from No Time >>>>>>>> the lyrically strongest track on Pink Friday
Is it me or is there something wrong with this video…The only person I could hear was the guy who said he masturbated to Lil Kim’s hardcore cover???
@cutrb Nicki had 3 solo hits (Your Love, Right Thru Me, Super Bass) and Moment 4 life with the most sought-after rapper at that time, so it’s not 100% her success
OF COURSE THATGRAPEJUICE ASK’ A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THE FU*K THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT Lil Kim is the Queen BOTTOM LINE. End Of Story she is an ICON a legend. without Kim this B**** wouldn’t have a carrer
I totally agree hands down LIL KIM IS THE BEST THAT DID AND THE BEST TO DO IT…. Nikki is a cheap imitation and believe me when the Queen comes back to claim the throne that bytch Nikki will most definitely be sent HOME!!!!
The last sentence says it all. Nicki THUS FAR has shown no lyrical potential.If she keeps going only with the image as her weapon, then the next girl will arrive and slay her.I think that Nicki is very well on her way towards iconic status but she’s not solidified until she serves a smoking verse
Lil kim is a bitter b**** who is mad dat another female is on top….to b honest nicki minaj and lil kim had a style that neither one created, did yall forget Cindy Lauper crazy clothes and Cher hair???, nothing is original nomore these days, everyone borrows and make it their own, Nicki is just doin it better abd lil kim is jealous and dats jus a female thing….Nicki Minaj gave lil kim props in several interviews, so lil kim can fismiss me with all that “no props” s***, Nicki said she was a fan of kim so whats da problem widd kim den??? Jealousy is one of the sevenly deadliest sins
ASAP –
I agree entirely. I like both Lil Kim and Nicki (Kim less since this whole nonsense) but past Nicki’s image I like her MUSIC. I like the inventiveness, the choice in lyrics and the way she jabs and plays with topics, the voices which tell a story…in general i feel some don’t like Nicki’s style…which is cool and everyone should have an opinion, but I do feel some don’t realize Nicki has a voice which can reach others and represent their own style.
Kim appealed to me but I can’t really get down with the ‘make a sprite can disappear in my mouth’ all the time because thats not my style in general. Kim isn’ t the only voice or style of rapping and as someone else said Kim is about being a gangsta and felt she had to prove herself because of all the men around her but Nicki’s not even concerned with that and just does her own silly sh>t.
edit – disagree, lol.
2 Demarius –
THANK YOU. It really irks me folks act like if you’re black your image MUST be from another black woman. Nicki seems way more into fantasy and asian influence than anything else (Nicki the Ninja, Nicki the Harajuku Barbie). Which is why I eye roll the whole stupid thing.
Kim didn’t invent her image and half the videos folks posting as proof speak to Kim having a REAL paranoid mind. MUSICALLY (which is what should matter right?) they don’t even sound alike. I’m mad Nicki has to deal with folks like Rihanna, Katy Perry, Ke&ha, and etc. as her competition but if she wears a colored wig its ALL about Kim and copying her. Shoot even if Nicki came out plain and simple considering who’s in the music media right now she’d probably have switched it up to embrace that.
LIL KIM IS TOO OLD TO BE FUSSING WIT DAT GURL ABOUT WHO DID IT FIRST YES SHE BIT OFF LIL KIM STYLE WHICH SHE HAS OPENLY ADMITTED TO…BUT KIM WONT EMBRACE SHE HATES..ITS RIDICULOUS NOW IDK IF NIKKI IS READY TO BE CALLED THE “QUEEN” I THINK SHE NEEDS TO PUT IN A LIL MORE TIME…LIL KIM NEEDS TO MOVE ON AND LET IT GO…I HOPE SHE MADE SOME INVESTMENTS CUZ I DONT THINK SHE GONNA MAKE A MAJOR COMEBACK…ITS DONE….
If NM the Queen than Lil Kim is the King. The only reason NM is the Queen right now is because no other female rapper is putting out music….period
If NM the Queen than Lil Kim is the King. The only reason NM is the Queen right now is because no other female rapper is putting out music.
As a Nicki and Kim fan I will say Nicki is killing the game right now, there’s no other female out and Nicki is holding it down for the female rappers! I like Kim’s music, but she’s gonna have to come harder than that Black Friday s*** cuz that was straight trash. I don’t agree with people calling Nicki The Queen of Hip Hop because this is only her 1st album and it seem slike people are forgetting about other female rappers who held it down for years: Eve and Missy who always bring it, from the music to the videos. As far as the whole beef thing I’m so over it, it’s really old and I just feel like lets talk about something else!
Missy is the QUEEN OF RAP! Nicki is the Princess.
I dont like lil kim because she is all about s**.
Missy is the empress. Kim is the Queen. Nicki is trash
I have NO SOUND? Only when the guy with glasses gets interviewd.
how can you say nicki minaj has no lyrical potential have u heard da S*** on lil kims mixtape she’s even tries to take nicki’s flow but fails miserably.. as far as im concerned lil kim only spits about getting f***** and giving head
NOW I LOVE ME SUM LIL KIM SHE DA SHYT BUT YEA NICKI IS HOT FOR NOW BUT LETS BE REAL NICKI AINT GOT SHYT ON KIM CUZ WE ALL KNO LIL KIM WILL KILL NICK WITH IT COMES TO RAP NICKI GOOD AT RAPPIN BUT NOT DAT GOOD I THINK BOTH OF THEM NEED TO STOP DA BEEF AND JUST MAKE MUSIC I AINT WORRY BOUT LIL KIM CUZ WE KNO SHE GOT MUSCI COMEIN FOR US SO EVERYBODY STFU AND STOP TALKIN SO MUCH SHYT ABOUT LIL KIM CUZ AT DA END OF DA DAY LIL KIM IS DA QUEEN DATS SUMTHING NICKI CANT BE YALL ONLY TALKIN SHYT NOW CUZ ITS A NEW CHICK IN DA GAME SO CHILL NICKI CAME AT KIM FIRST CUZ IF U THINK ABOUT IT LIL KIM AINT MADE NO MUSIC INTO DAT BLACK FIRDAY SONG SO STFU EVERYBODY
@Those that cannot do, stan
I agree with accepting different opinions, but I’d just like to explain mine a bit. I said that Nicki has been PLAYFUL with her lyrics, but she’s never taken it to the level where her game needs to be to be proclaimed the queen.She seems pretty one dimensional to me and it’s ok for her to show her influences, but her flow is kind of dull IMO, so it ends up looking quite flat…And her voices irritate me.I want to her spitting, flowing and delivering straight bar after bar not doing voices. That’s good for a beginner, but not for a queen. My whole point is that I can’t name her the Queen of Hip-Hop
I just watched that video about these two rap rivals, and there ain’t no doubt that Kim will always be the queen of rap I don’t care what anybody says what lilkim has done in 16 years Nicki will not do. She is jelous of lilkim Kim is not jealous of her!!! When KIm’s new album comes out its a rap!!! Kim has a very huge fan base. Nicki is hip pop,she has cash money behind her if she did’t have thjem she would not be as popular or not at all. Im sick of nicki!! she sucks Kim is not goin anywhere and whoever said grandma about kim she is only nomore then 3 yrs older then nicki, so get yo facts straight. Kimis goin wit G-unit new album and book, please Nicki should just hang it up, anybody got a problem wit what I said tweet me @thekimlover
Okay so i have to say that the black guy they interviewed with the asian girl…he’s soooooooooo cute! lol
I LOVE LIL KIM!
Nicki is a pop-rapper lets stop playing games! Lil Kim is an actual rapper they are not even in the same lane!!
ASAP –
I get it, but I think that’s the point. Nicki’s style doesn’t personally favor you, which is cool, but I also don’t think not liking her style doesn’t deny she has some real talent. I wouldn’t name her a Queen (frankly I find the whole thing stupid) but I also don’t believe if another rap chick was out there she’d be invisible.
I think Nicki brings a total package which other artists want to liven up their song, but even she said she mostly does the voices and personality for spots on other songs and tries to express herself simply on her own music (Hello, Good Morning & Till The World Ends compared to Right Thru Me or Did It On ‘Em).
People say she’s only big because she’s the only girl in the rap game but that to me is like folks complaining there’s only one type of soda because you’re only staring at a Coke machine. I know its easy to fall into the mainstream and easy access but if we really want to talk about the female rap game we also have to look up folks and give them a shot as opposed to waiting to be spoon-fed someone.
Lola Monroe is actually pretty good, I don’t know if she’s on her hustle but ‘Alright, Ok’ and ‘You’re A Jerk’ are pretty good and those songs have me checking for her music. Songs I, ironically, heard on a her and NM mix tape. Diamond is just okay to me but still…I only consider Nicki, Lola, and Kim one voice and one aspect of hip hop because none of them are THE voice or THE Queen to me.
^^^I don’t doubt that she has talent, I just think her talent is not enough to make her the queen
Btw, Foxy Brown and EVE are coming back next year.So who knows??Maybe you’ll have more options this time next year…
OMG!!! The girl with the messed up wig that was bored with Ciara stands behind the guy who masturbated with Hardcore.
(WHAT A SENTENCE)
Lil Kim>>>>>>Nicki end of discussion.
Hell, Ke$has rap Sleazy>>>>Nickis catalogue
Poor Lil C**.
Here for Nicki the Queen.
You lessors will DEAL.
these people obviously havent done their research.
This video is so dumb. Half the people in it sounded so confused like they didnt even know why. They said Nicki just to say Nicki. Kim is not f****** jealous of Nicki, she’s tired of her pretending to be so f****** respecftul then turning around and diss her at the same time. Nicki copied SO MUCH from Kim but its little stuff that y’ll wouldnt know. nd of course the fat white girl sides with NICKi cuz she’s pop and Nicki got these white ppl going crazy for her.
For alot of people to be so called old school it’s a shame that yall don’t remember that Lisa-Left-Eye Lopez came out in 92 and was rocking colored wigs waaay before Lil Kim. So how is Nicki Swagga Jackin Kim
this is the main reason why i dont usually comment on these sites #WHATSTHEPOINT??? its just a bunch of people who dont kno s*** bout hiphop wanting to put thier 2cents. i like nicki minaj but she is faaarrrr from being a queen, honestly most of u jus livin n da moment.
Lil Kim helped pave the way for women in the rap game and Nikki Manaj should respect Lil Kim and honor her and so should everyone else. The Queen is Lil Kim and Nikki Manaj is the princess. Maybe after Nikki M. has made some albums then she may be eligible for the Queen title.
Lil’ Kim Black Barbie Video –> http://bit.ly/fETxvI
Nikki needs to get her won style she is copying Lil Kim everyone can see it,
her own not won style hahahalol, everything Nikki does is a imitation of Kim so, so to me Nikki is out trying to be a Lil Kim literally hahhalol oh well,
This is B******* dude that was interviewing folks kept trying to get me & my group of friends to agree to pick Nicki over Lil Kim & we wouldn’t . He was giving us all this history of Nicki & what she’s done & we tried speaking up for Lil Kim & all that she has done & he kept cutting us off. We asked him, “I thought you asked what where our personal thoughts & who would we pick” now I know this p**** has a vendetta for Lil Kim, he only had negative things to say about Lil Kim. He was also doing this with others as well, so the folks you see in the video pretty much were coaxed & some of the video was altered and edited.
Most of these ppl only started listening to nicki minaj after she became popular but listen to the song she got Batman where she clearly says The Royal Queen of Rap name lil kim trying to get at her an thats just one of her disses toward kim before kim ever started coming at her but Nicki wont last to long ppl are gonna get tired of the stupid voices an stupid clothes an if she changes up her style ppl are gonna say shes trying to be kim..Kim wins in all of this more albums more awards a certified spot in Rap history with some of the greatest
You know, just because someone does something similar does not mean they snaked the idea from someone. Hell, as a kid, I always drew all kinds of things, came up with several concepts I had never seen before- and sure as you know it, eventually I see people coming out with things extremely alike to something that originated in my head. Now if I were to publish something I created a long time ago about a year after someone else published a similar idea, I would be called a copycat. But really, it’s horseshit. Just because Minaj started to Crayola her world a little bit, or because she took a promo photo in the same position as LK (or a s*** ton of other female artists have) does NOT mean she was jacking K’s “style.” That’s just conjecture, at the most. Not saying I lean toward Minaj, but did anyone read about her growing up?? She has more means of origin in all the “style” she portrays in her work.
I don’t even think the two should be compared- they’re two entirely different elements.
Regardless of who started what, all this “dissing” b******* shouldn’t have been continued with. They’ve both got THEIR OWN things going on, and regardless of who started what, the best move would have been to just keep kicking ass in their career. But, nope! Gotta start s***, don’t we?