Nights ago, the nominations for the 2012 Grammys were announced and evoked what can only be described as heated debate.
Debate that for the most has been centered around Pop czar Beyonce and the fact that she only scored one nomination related her latest album ‘4’.
Now, we want you to weigh in.
Is industry politics to blame for this blatant snub?
Or is ‘4‘ simply undeserving of the accolades the likes of ‘Dangerously In Love‘ and ‘I Am..Sasha Fierce‘ found themselves basking in some years back.
Get into it below!
her all career is in severe regression.she was suppose to crush the game and show the world but she has everything to prove once again .
She showed the world that she was unable to :
-manage herself
-sell albums
-sell singles
-have a respectable image like she used to
-sell DVD
Everything is going DOWNNnNn.
She is a good performer but it’s not important to make it.l am mad because of how hard it was for her to re-conquer the music industry after BDAY,she came back and did the same mistakes.Her management was worst than Nicki who’s suppose to be a rookie.This is unacceptable for someone her caliber.
l am mad at her and honest.l doubt she cares about “4″ cause she is happier about WTT nominations anyways.
Now gimmie a break,l love beyonce but l am not gonna be delusional or talk like Britney stans or Xtina’s.
BEYONCE F***** UP BIG TIME WITH THIS ERA #period
she was def wronged even if she didnt get any major nominations the rnb categories shud have recognized her album as a whole even if singles weren’t nominated….people like kelly price getting nominated im done!!!!! and what happened to best rnb album and best contemporary rnb album they judt had one this year
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she didnt release ” i miss you ” as a single so what do you expect. she better go ahead and have Julius baby and sist down.
I love Beyonce to death but who really cares. She already has 16 Grammys so she will be fine. Really doesn’t matter anyway because all they do nowadays is just give GRAMMYS away.
“SIT”
Popularity=grammy
Dont blame the grammy commitee,Blame beyonce for the submissions and her management this era.
l mean she was doing the groupie instead of getting her s*** together or promoting her singles.She let RTW flopped,did no radio interview to help the song,did nothing for 3 weeks………
Then again the same for Love on top,horrid promotion,vacationing in the middle of an era , doing the groupie……………
4 deserves some grammys but Beyonce deserves to be snubbed #period
the only politics is that mathew wasn’t there to buy her some nominations. its a wrap. 4lop was thet
‘4’ is her best album. Maybe the Recording Academy wanted another pop-your-p****-on-the-floor album to call it proper Beyonce.
I was so gutted it was overlooked for Best R&B Album when it clearly is one of the best of the year no matter what anyone says.
Her album deserved to be nominated. Out of the nominees it would have had the most acclaim even more than her prior more successful albums. That’s the only other nomination she should have gotten.
She still has a chance 2013 grammys to get more noms and possibly a win.
WOWS
YOU BEYAWNCE FANS MUST REALLY BE MAD!!
IT IS WHAT IT IS!!! NOW JUST DEAL!
SIPS MOSCATO!
GODDESS GODGA!!! SLAYING
*Chuckles
Daddy Knowles BOUGHT ALMOST ALL OF HER previous nominations and awards.
No daddy, no Grammy.
THIS is the proof!
She is over. That’s all.
She never deserved that much Grammy Awards, just daddy bought them for her lil’ girl. Nonsense. EVeryone knew it. Now everyone can see that was not a conspiracy theory, it was all true!!!
No she will get more nominations next year.
they are so wrong and hatting this album is bey best work ever bey we your fans know better you are the best and talented no hatemonger can take that away from you may god continue to bless protect you the baby jay and your family for life long happy life ever lastibg long happy married more success with all you do long live the queen
her father bought her the nominations. Now that Beyonce has moved on from her father, there is no chance for her to receive that many nominees.
Of course 4 deserves more Grammys and hopefully it will get more in 2013. I think the question is a bit premature because she is bound to have more 4 submissions for 2013. If the album ends up with 0 Grammys by then it will really be a shame since it is her best so far in my opinion.
STEFFON hit the nail on the head – she has 44 nominations, 2nd place for most nominated female artist (after Dolly Parton, I think) and 16 wins. So who really gives a flip? She’s had a great year, contrary to popular (hater) opinion:
– Headlined Glastonbury
– Scored her 4th consecutive #1 album
– Is carrying her firstborn child
– Received a very special award from Billboard recognizing her contributions to the first decade of the 21st century
– Recorded collaborations with Mary J. Blige and the Throne
I told you that Beyonce tried to make the r&b version of 21 and failed. RTW was the worst lead single OF ALL TIME!
Everything about this era was a fail. The stolen videos, the stolen lyrics, her claiming this was a classic.
“I may be young but I’m ready” Keith sweat
“I don’t know much about algebra”- Sam cooke
plus this album had no impact. No one remembers her 10 songs that she released in 2 weeks.
Loud>>>>>4
I honestly wasn’t expecting her to get nominations in the Big 3 (Album of the Year, Song of the Year, Record of the Year), but let’s be serious Beyonce’s “4” album is the best selling R&B album of the year (this is fact)…also she has one of the highest rated R&B albums this year on Metacritic…these should of given her a nomination for Best R&B Album…and 1+1 should of received a nomination in the R&B field as well
Beyonce has 982768576 Grammies. I don’t even know or remember how she got all those grammies, when her f*cking music and DISCOGRAPHY is so f*cking basic and boring.
If anybody deserved to be snubbed for once, it’s Beyonce, the thief.
Christina Aguilera got snubbed MANY SEVERAL TIMES, IN MANY DIFFERENT YEARS.
It’s cute how the Grammies decided to finally nominate Xtina again.
However, personally, I stopped giving a sh*t about the fake-@ss Grammieez. They are so fake and wack. Instead of actually nominating talented people every year, they just nominate whatever’s popular. It’s a f*cking mess, it’s just another MTV or AMA type of award show.
Thankfully, Christina AGUILERA doesn’t need awards. Her OUTSTANDING and MARVELOUS CAREER, music, videos, DISCOGRAPHY, SINGING, etc all speak for themselves.
Why does this have to turn into a Loud vs. 4 convo…I wish the Navy would be mature for once in their lives
Is this seriously a topic on tgj? Beyonce not getting nominated? Child please she has enough Grammys this 4 album was ok I’m typically not a beyonce fan but I have supported her previous albums this album just wasn’t that good. Can we get a discussion on how good drakes album is o_O
That was the most talked about album this year along with Carter IV and Watch The Throne.. They all ways wronged.. Beyonce deserved more nominations. I like Kelly price but where she been at.. I ain’t hear anything concerning her in a while. yo follow @Beyonce she’s verified and follow me @NastyBam please!,
You cannot blame the Grammy Committee for failing to nominate Beyonce. It is Beyonce’s management team and labels fault. Maybe they submitted the wrong songs? Did she woo the committee? Did she do anything to deserve a Grammy nomination? Did she visit (like most artists) the various Grammy chapters and present her album? Has it occurred to any of her fans that her album is NOT critically acclaimed and NOT radio friendly and maybe the academy, when compared to other albums and songs just did NOT stand up to the competition?
There are many factors that goes into the nomination and selection of the Grammy’s. For instance, in my opinion Miguel should have been nominated for New Artist and ALL the R&B categories, especially for “Sure Thing” but if you know Miguel’s history, the song actually came out in 2007 and thus not eligible for a nomination.
Look, you win some and you lose some. It wasn’t Beyonce’s year and I’m sure with a new album and a new reboot of her career she will be fine. Because for now, she is simply a fan favorite and lacks universal appeal right now. I know many a stan will be mad at this but radio play and worldwide chart positioning do not lie. She is no where to be found and that is indicative of the quality (or lack thereof) of her album “4.”
I’ve got to agree. I’m not the biggest Beyonce fan, I’ve always preferred Kelly, but this is wrong! How do the Grammy’s justify their status as being a peer-led award recognising quality and not popularity? I was expecting for “4”, Best RnB Vocal Performance, Best RnB Album, Best RnB Song and a Best Short Form Video nominations but ONE? And for “Party”? Not even the album version, but the REMIX!?!
Beyonce aimed to go back to old school RnB and she did, I have to say I’ve been FAR more impressed with the music on this album than others which contained cheap, horrid and empty songs like “Suga Mama”, “Freakum Dress” “Video Phone” and the like. How she won Best Contemporary RnB album 3 years in a row was a joke to me anyway but I expected the Grammys to be able to acknowledge the standard of music on this album.
Michael Jackson had a similar situation with both “Off the Wall” and “Bad” two of his best albums. The difference between the 2 is that he only got 2 nominations for “Wall” and won 1 and received 6 nominations for “Bad” and won 1! Years later, however, these albums have stood the test of time with “Wall” being inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 2008 and “Bad” being the only album to have 5 original album songs to go to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. True, regarding singles this has not been Beyonce’s year so we’ll have to see what Billboard year end places her at and see how/if BET, NAACP and the Brits honour her.
Still have to reiterate that my eyes nearly fell out when i didn’t see her name on the RnB albums list nor the short form video. Snub? Yes indeedy!
The album 4 was a MASTERPIECE!!! And Beyonce was definitely SNUBBED!!!! She brought back R&B. It was refreshing to listen to an entire album without skipping a track. I love how it was not so commerical. The album 4 was her BEST CD to date!!! The vocal and lives band set her aside from other musicans and crafted pop stars! Sadly, the Grammys are not willing to recognize REAL music. Many people have been wronged in Grammy nominations and the awarding process, particularly “urban” artist. We are starting to make music for “US” and unfortunately they (Grammy Committee) can not relate…so we get left out of the mix, if the music does not peak their interest or the interest of their counterparts. Beyonce, Keyshia, Miguel, and Jill…you do not need their approval to vaildate that you are great and your work is great! However, it is undenialbly hurtful to get overlooked when you product is GREAT and GREATER than the diluted works that have been recognized.
Why do Beyonce fans say she brought back R&B music? Example please…..
So bad!
She deserved so many more.
Her album should have got a nomination and the singles.
Bey had such a good album. But hey… On To The Next One.
no1curr about kleptonce or her s***** album 4closure… bye b****!
yeh she was snubbed BIG time….they totally shaded her this time around…kelly price, ledisi(however u spell it) getting nominations and not Bey? when she had the highest selling RnB album this year and the most notarized RnB album…..a mess i def want be watching this mess! smh
No. I don’t think ‘4’ was her best work. But, more importantly, Beyonce isn’t loosing sleep over Grammys. She’s BEEN THERE, DONE THAT. She has the most of any female ever, if I’m not mistaken. She released the kind of album she wanted, she’s rolling in dough, respected and starting a family. People forget that Beyonce is a veteran and has done everything she ever wanted to do. She dominated every avenue. She doesn’t have to prove a thing to anyone. She can be done tomorrow.
Beyonce album isn’t r&b, it pop/r&b! Kelly Prices’s album may’ve not sold as much as Beyonce’s but its pure r&b that why Kelly got nominated and Beyoce didnt.
In terms of the lack of nominations, Beyonce like Mary J Blige (Rihanna is also going down this route) is re-hashing out the same formula so what was great 7-10 years ago is stale now. If you listen to Beyonce on shuffle you realise that she hasn’t developed as an artist and the songs start to sound the same where as some artists have a style (Jill Scott) and she’s too young to be doing that. 4 was a good album but not great
Sammy boy, ppreciate the love but we off that!
If you’re a real fan, this doesn’t even phase you. Whether she’s getting a Grammy or not, I’m still going to be bumpin 4, I Am…Sasha Fierce, B’Day, Dangerously In Love, AND the Speak My Mind mixtape like they just came out!
I’m also a HUGE Erykah Badu fan, and even though she’s not selling albums the way she sold her first two WHO CARES? She’s an AMAZING artist, and I will buy and support her for the rest of her career and after!
And I’m pretty sure Beyonce’s not concerned with it anyway. 16 Grammys, a baby on the way, fans and haters eating up everything she does. I’d just put my heels on and keep on going. Oh wait…that’s EXACTLY what she’s doing 🙂
Yes.
The Categories were reduced A Lot and now other artist will have a chance.
It was deserving of at least 3 nods but Bey AIN’T HARDLY WORRIED because at any moment she can go back to the winning formula if she wants to
I think a lot of folks are hitting the nail on the head. Although I think “4” is Beyonce’s best album to date, I do not think she promoted it very well. It seems like she kind of put herself in the indie and underground scene with how she headlined all the festivals, leaked her album 3 weeks early, and released videos without officially releasing the accompaning radio singles.
I am glad she took a risk with “Run The World” but she followed it up with the safest song on the album “Best Thing I Never Had.”
Also in a world where Lady Gaga spends so much time and effort on “Michael Jacksonifying” her videos. Beyonce’s videos have lost their magic. It’s like she doesn’t know how to think outside the box anymore. She is obsessed with making everything “classic” but it is reading as safe. I think we are missing dynamics from Beyonce.
It is clear to me that Beyonce is the best performer in the industry. See the Billboard Awards performance. It seems that people want mediocre performers because the same people who are scoring #1 singles are lackluster performers/
Finally, I think the Grammy committee got it wrong this time because although Beyonce did not promote “4” like she has with her albums in the past, it is an exquisite album. Reminscint of some many great artists of the past and still fresh and comtemporary. She did not follow the trends of Dance/Electronica and she really made a concious and romantic record.
Maybe people are tired of perfection?
@dev
Chris brown’s album is more pop than rnb. Whatchu gottta say about that?
God only knows how she got so many Grammys in the first place. They handed them out like sweets in the last few years that’s why no one respects them no more. As for being snubbed she is not entitled to be nominated every time she brings an album out.
@Kat Deluna Fan
Totally agree with what you said. She needs Matthew to manage her again. I read that during the recording process of BDay that she did not include her father. Maby that is the reason that the album did not so well in the beginning only Irreplaceable saved the album as most of her songs tanked especially in Europe. She did better with IASF and now that she left her father’s management she is flopping. Beyonce + Matthew = Success and loads of awards.
I think beyonce at least deserved a nomination for best R&B – album..
Me as a Beyonce fan-stan, thinks that 4 is a less populair album than the rest of her albums. So she didn’t deserve that much as previous years.
It’s a simply classic rnb album, that why I dont understand why she isnt nominated for best r en b album.. Thats is a catogory I thought she would be nominated in..
The single party is however nominated for best R&B single. I thought that BTINH Or LOT was nominated, but why Party?.. Its a ok song, more an album filler. Love on top and best thing i never had, deserved much more a nomination then party..
I think that some people here are to hard for BeYONCE. In september she was 6 months pregnant.
@ katdeluna
You said:
‘ She showed the world that she was unable to :
-manage herself
-sell albums
-sell singles
-have a respectable image like she used to
-sell DVD’
managing herself, wasnt going as it shoud be.. But she never could prove herself. Again she is pregnant, I think its not fair to say that she can’t manage herself.
Selling her albums/ singles; I think she failed to conquer her precvious albums. It wasnt that good, but not all the albums can do it well. It just wasnt Beyonce’s year. As much as I love her, she just didn’t sell that much…
My opinion is that Beyonce is very talented and I love her album 4. The fact that I LOVE the album,means much more to me, instead of more number 1’s etc.
Pulblic image; she still has a good image, I don’t know why u’re saying that
DVD’s:
first week sales usa:
1. lady gaga 26k ( released 21 nov)
2. britney 19 k (released 21 nov)
3. beyonce 17 k (released 29 nov, so only 2 or 3 days sales)
Thats not fair to say.. 🙂
SO THATS ALL
BYE.
i will honestly say she deserved to get one for Love on Top since that really was a stand out track aside from End of Time. Other than that the album really was grammy worthy. Hell it even took her stans a while to digest the music on 4. But ppl should understand that just because she’s Beyonce doesn’t mean she’s automatically entitled to a grammy or grammy nom. Her name shouldn’t equal award!
coming from a bey fan ( not a stan I like other artist lol) i think she was snubbed.
but beyonce is not worried….trust, its not the end of the world for her.
if people wouldnt have underestimated 4 in the first place ..and actually listen to it for what it was….but then i forget this generation ears have been damaged by all this pop auto-tune simple ish .
sooo my conclusion….
I think she was snubbed in some catogories!
Like best R en B album
wasn’t* grammy worthy.
@Matthew Charlery-Smith
The album version of ‘Party’ (with Andre 3000) is nominated, not the remix. It happens to be one of my favs on the album, definitely not a filler in my opinion. I think it’s the best single released in the US so far, ‘Love On Top’ is my favorite release in general. I still think more nominations in 2013 will minimize this issue.
If they hadn’t cut out all of the contemporary r&b categories, this wouldn’t even be an issue. Out of Beyonce’s single releases, I certainly enjoy ‘4’ the most but when I stand her album up against Jill Scott, Ledisi, Kelly Price (and JHud who was also snubbed), it ranks last. I also believe in karma – Beyonce won a lot of awards for straight bull-crap while others were snubbed. The grammies have become a show that honors popularity over artistic content so it only seems right that her most critically acclaimed album is passed over while her mediocre ones were over-praised & over-awarded.
REALLY??? She shouldnt have been nominated at all. She did not have a stellar year at all. The album is only at 940,000 sold… she had no MAJOR hits from the CD and you guys find it worth to debate about. DOES SHE PAY THIS SITE TO KISS HER ASS?
@haterstaypressed
What d hell do u mean 4 was not critically acclaimed. Get ur facts together. Its metacritic score is the highest of any of her albums and higher than teenage dream, born this way, fame, loud, which all got nominated
@Kat Deluna fan
U’ve completely lost the plot smh not only is ur bittr rant filled with stupid lies but u seem to have a problem with Beyonce being a supportive wife to her husband. U want her on every stage in d world. D same stages she been performing on for the past 15 yrs. How dare she try to have a life while with child. U’ll be happy if she has a nervous breakdown like Britney, Whitney or Mariah? Cus selfish overzealous fans like u never get enough. U are not a fan of Beyonce! U are a fan of Beyonce’s hype!, u like what she represented in pop sphere durin her DIL, IASF eras. Well guess what, Bey’s definition of success has changed. She’s 30 dammit if she wants to be family-oriented, she’s earned it! U mite as well board the Rihanna navy now. Its bcus of “fans” like u, superstars need to centre themselves around their loved ones – FAMILY!
@missimpartial
honey no one said Beyonce was entitled to being nominated every time she has an album out, but she was simply deserving of more than what she recieved….’4′ imo is one of the best albums this year, vocal wise, arrangement etc….and i respect her more being that she crossed over into pop years ago and chose not to hop on the pop band wagon to win “most popular”….she deserved nominations even more this time around…my opinion and apparently some of her peers opinion as well;)
In order for me to answer this question, you will have to define or better yet RE-define the term “Grammy worthy”.I think her material is heavily overrated thanks to her performing abilities.Out of all the songs that got her nominated for a Grammy or even earned her one, the majority is by no means on the level of the songs that were praised in the Grammy’s of previous decades.Her music is not groundbreaking or experimental enough to get a well deserved Grammy.
That said, the music in general has gone downhills to the extent that Beyonce’s material, as overrated as it may be, actually deserves some recognition.Whilst her music is by no means as powerful as her ex-management made it out to be, it’s still better than what her competition is doing at the moment.Since the likes of Whiz Khalifa and Lil’Wayne are among the nominees, Beyonce undoubtedly deserved more nods.
The thing is that the Grammy’s have lost their meaning.It used to be difficult to win a Grammy, hence it was a huge achievement, something to really rave about.Now, this has undeniably changed, granted that watered down disposable anthems (‘Single Ladies’) can get some shine.The Grammy’s have to get themselves a new policy.If their goal is to award the best out of the current mainstream field, then Beyonce deserved much more recognition.If their goal is to award the best out of the entire industry, mainstream and underground, artists whose personal standard is noteworthy, acts that really try to make a difference, then 1-2 nods is exactly how much she should be getting.
@CEE
l agree with you about everything almost.She is thinking to safe and predictable.l also hated the fact that she did those festivals like she was erykah badu.Did it help? NOPE.
Everything she did this era was wrong.She was making mistakes after mistakes while vacationing or going at concerts.l hate rihanna but her team is on point,same for Gaga.Rihanna works hard and her team back up the lack of talent that she has.
Beyonce is married to the person who is managing her biggest competition,Trust me she doesnt care.Jay will replace her cause he was preparing it for years.Time is up Bey,sit down and make his kids.
@SNR BEY
l love Beyonce,l love her but the era was tanking in the beginning and she was able to save it.What she did? more mistakes,a dont-give-a-f***-attitude,shooting all the videos from the album.
Now the era is coming to an end and she wants to go hard????
Listen,l thought during the Xtmas season she will be able to sell her album at least to 3 millions.But her albums is flopping in Europe,Asia,Australia..No chance to revive the album cause all the songs are flopping.
All of sudden she wants to promote it?she wants grammys for it?
No sis.Bruno mars,Adele,,Rihanna (that l cant stand),gaga,Nicki .. were working all year to have the sale and awards they got.
Beyonce is also helping Jay’s professional and musical careers more than she is doing for herslef.Let it be,let rihanna takes the throne (or Nicki) and take care of your husband.
Hopefully when she is more focused,come back & do things properly 😕
4closure is a complete commercial & artistic failure.
Only her delusional fans on TGJ were n denial about it.
BTW Samantha, still no update on the world charts?
LMAO, U stay pathetic.
PREACH SAM PREACH!!! They BEEN KNEW KING BEY released the most BAWSE album this year and that motherfucking hater ass committee couldn’t TAKE IT!!! Dem HATING ASS M************ couldn’t take KING BEY outshining that SCHOOL BUS in dress with her 18 grammys!!! I don’t care what a m*********** tell me they been planning this S*** for years!!! They BEEN KNEW KING BEY was going make history this year so they COCKBLOCKED the S*** outta our gurl!!!! MATTER FACT I call motherfucking racism too!!! If KING BEY was white they would NEVA tried this s***!!! Sam dm me Al Sharpton’s right quick!!!
For real, everybody already knows Beyonce is like the the best singer in the world right now so she doesnt need any more awards. She doesn’t have to prove anything to anybody with trophies, but she MOST DEF should’ve got more than one award.
Beyonce totally flopped! Femme Fatale was one of the best albuns with many of the best hits of the year. This post should be about Britney. Idiots!
Love her but she’ll be fine. She got 16 (some she didnt deserve imo but its done). Stripped. The Dutchess. Never Say Never. Snubbed & should’ve gotten numerous nods & wins. 4 in Bey standards flopped & the commitee saw it as just that. Party was nominated bcuz of her featured artist. Telephone, bcuz of Gaga. I could go on. There’s always next year.
You have to have Material submited before oct 1 to be nominated. With Beyonces new Album People are confused because she released videos to promote her album instead on doing live promo for six months cause of the pregnancy. All those videos were not singles. and Lastely Didnt the Grammys delete the Best female R&B section. If that was still there im sure she would have been in it. but a grammy doesnt make your career to be nominated doesnt mean you won. but it would be funny if she performed I was here or I care and shut the grammys down and walked of the stage like “now what”.
@LOVE4BEY
Not really RTW had a great beat the lyrics were horrendous and embarrassing same for Countdown lyrics are crap even though I do like the song. Love on Top is nice but is not a stand out song more like a filler. 1+1 lyrically not great and vocally also not great the worst Beyonce ballad ever. BTINH deserves maby one because it has great lyrics and her voice is great and very emotional which I like. Party I never liked but the video changed my mind. It is great and has an old school feel so deserves one. Just realised that JCole has been snubbed as Andre 3000 is nominated with her.
@missimpartial
How did bday singles tank in Europe?
Deja vu was no1 in UK
Irreplaceable top 5
Beautiful liar no 1 again
Greenlight the last single reached top 20
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Hopefully she keeps Matthew away for good. She’s a grown woman, she can hire a real manager. So what this era dint do so well. Big deal! How will u learn if u are afraid of failing n experimenting. U guys are so myopic, its no childsplay
@bey knight
B**** stfu
l am actually telling her to sit and take care of her husband at full time like she truly wants instead of doing a botched job with “4” . 😕 what your problem? kiii
@katdeluna
I understand what you saying.
I think that its not true that beyonce doesnt give a f***.. She has more priorities, who are more important than work. You cant punish her for having 1 bad era. Everyone has had a bad era..
And yeah, her 5th cd she will come hard..
Dont be so black- white 🙂
Arthur
December 2, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Beyonce totally flopped! Femme Fatale was one of the best albuns with many of the best hits of the year. This post should be about Britney. Idiots!
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Please tell me you are joking… hahahha.
If not, well thats f****** HILARIOUS.
Britney needs to sing live or get the f*** off stage.
I hate her for that reason alone.
this type of post is part of the reason bey’s popularityis falling. I think its her fans that are making people dislike her more than it is her herself. And Hell no! She doesnt deserve anything more than any other artist with a bad album deserves. 4 was no more experimental than any of her albums before because She always releases a first single that people hate at first, but then grows on u (Deja vu, Single Ladies). However, this time RTW was just so atrociously horrible that honestly everyone but the stans were over it. I think she realizes this and isnt as pressed as the psychotic stans are about the grammys not recognizing that bull.
Not really RTW had a great beat the lyrics were horrendous and embarrassing same for Countdown lyrics are crap even though I do like the song. Love on Top is nice but is not a stand out song more like a filler. 1+1 lyrically not great and vocally also not great the worst Beyonce ballad ever.
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OOPS!!!
@BEY’KNIGHT
Beautiful Liar was not on the original CD so don’t count. As for Greenlight anything that is outside the top 10 in the UK is considered a flop. Deja Vu did reach number one but was not on eof the biggest top 40 singles of that year.
Listen hear people!!!!! I am a Beyonce FAN to the freaking fullest, I own all her albums and DVD’s along with Mariah albums and Adeles.
Beyonce didn’t enter her album and some songs for the Grammy nominations.
She entered Party, Her concert that’s it!!!! No one is snubbing Beyonce.
It’s not just beyonce fans that are pissed, there’s alot of artists complaining about beyonce being “snub”, Hell Kelly should of got a nomination for R&B album.
Rihanna “stans” spare me to being”overjoyed” rihanna will not walk away with more then 1 grammy, if any.
Adele is going to sweep the grammy’s, then everyone will complain about it being an Adele show like they did with Lady Gaga and Beyonce in 2010.
Beyonce is actually nominated for 3 grammy’s Party, I Am tour and Telephone.
Beyonce will win at least one, so who cares? right?
In all honesty I believe Beyonce doesn’t care about 4. She could of released that album in June of 2012. She knew she couldn’t promote but that didn’t stop her.
Theres also a cut of date, Love On Top, End of Time, Countdown, “4” album will be nominated for 2013.
In all honesty ALL awards is based off of popularity it always have.
Its an honor to have 16 grammy’s, and NO her father didn’t buy it. Beyonce actually has talent so enough with the damn hate kids.
I feel alot of people was snubbed from this, NIcki Minaj best new artist? Last year it went to that woman, I forgot her name.
I doubt nicki will win that, she will walk away with 1 or 2.
Adele is going to slay. =4/5 win awards
Kanye West=5 awards
Jay-Z=2
Nicki=1/2
Beyonce=1
Maroon 5=1
Lady Gaga=1/2
Heck Eminem wasn’t even nominated he released a rap album in June of this year and one last year where is his nominations?
Mariah and christina is the one that’s always snubbed not beyonce.
This list is a major blow to alot of Great artist!!
Beyonce is good, she has 3 noms. She don’t need 10, or 8.
3 is gone enough for her.
@ASAP
is dead on.
@missimpartial
i see where you’re coming from…tbh i hated RTW at first but as the loyal stan i am…it grew on me…wasnt the best song but i was talking about the album as a whole…i think that was the major problem the response from RTW destroyed people’s interest in 4…but i have to disagree with you on 1+1 and party….yeh the lyrics were pretty simple but her voice is at its best right now…did you listen to how she used her voice in 1+1?…one word #instrument…..her harmonies in party are unmatched..but im sure Bey isnt worried about the grammies…as we all know she has PLENTY and 4 will be more recognized next year for sure!
Just dropping by to say that Rated R has a HIGHER metacritic score than 4 which has a score of 72 compared with Rated R 76…..Bye Bye
I think King Bey had a cohesive solid album BUT i think the single choices crippled her grammy chances this season.
End Of Time needed to be a single and the video would have had to be as good as or EVEN BETTER than Run The World…
That particular song has a sound of epic-ness but needed a video
Her vocal for “I was here” or “1+1” should have been recognised by the committee
I expected more nod but maybe the album to urban???
Don’t know!
There was mixed feelings from many when the album came out so that could have counted against her.
I love the album ESPECIALLY “I MISS U”
Bey can do what she likes musically now anyway as she has achieved all she needed to in music…
Longevity is the key and she has that in abundance
She’s not falling, when you reach that age that’s what happens. Britney, Mariah,christina, Mj went through it. Beyonce is 30 with a baby on the way.
She’s just going to go down in history as one of the best performers. Beyonce can only get bigger, so I don’t get how someone can say she’s fading?
Her 5th album which will come out in late 2012 or 2013 will be commercial friendly.
When you’re an artist your music suppose to grow and that’s what’s happening.
Britney was left out of pop cateogory. Kelly, Jill, Miguel alot of artist.
Adele got this in the bag. Rihanna will not walk away with any.
Just dropping by to say that Rated R has a HIGHER metacritic score than 4 which has a score of 72 compared with Rated R 76
And Rated R got sunbed TOO so….
@LOVE4BEY
Everyone thinks 4 is crap because Beyonce put out the worst songs. Quality songs such as Miss You, I was here, I care and Schooling Life are the stand outs of the album. I did not hear End of Time so I can’t say much about it.
@SNDR BEY
hopefully but if she is surrounded by the same incompetent and moronic people,l doubt it.l dont have faifth in her judgement about her musical/management decisions and l dont trust the people around her at all (none of them).
l dont think she is CAPABALE of going hard next era tbqh 😕 😕 just a feeling
Where is the post of Dawn Richard’s New song??
so many Rihanna “news” and no Dawn single?
DEATH!
Why should she be nominated for a flop album???
@cockiness
actually 4 is at 73 and Rated R is 75…..that was cute how u added a number to rihanna’s and subtracted one from Beyonce….girl keep ya shade no one gives a f**! k
But i really want someone from the Beyhive to tell how they feel about this because…
According to yall 4 wasn’t supposed to be an album where it’s singles go to #1 or in the top ten….it was supposed to be a “Classical” album that would win a s*** load of grammys but it only got nominated for 1
So was this era a successful one?
Beyonce is looking for longetivity not whats “hot for the moment” like certain artists.
Beyonce 1st single should of been=Countdown
2nd=BTINH
3rd=End of Time
4th=I Care
5th=Dance 4 You
6th=I Was Here (Should could of closed this era with)
Beyonce knows what she’s doing, she learned from the best (her father) and her husband been in this businesss for so long. I just wished she wasn’t managing herself. :/
To me her best album was B’day then 4, IASF, DIL.
IASF was mid tempo it wasn’t too many uptempos on that album.
5th album will be fire!!!
Adele got this in the bag. Rihanna will not walk away with any
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Its ok hun we’re thankful for her nominations and the one in five chance of picking up something!! Now if it were only one in one…………………….
this snub, and many more to come, only proves that mathew was the force behind beyonce…….
4 didnt deserve any grammys..sorry stans….that album was/is not the best r&b album out there..hell its not even in the top 30……
beyonce is the only person that i see that needs alot of award to validate, how talented she is..
her stans now want to say, she doesnt need anymore grammys she has 16..umm no mathew has 14 grammys, not beyonce…
Rihanna stans have no room to talk, she’s only nominated for 4 grammy’s and Talk that Talk is expected to drop in sales for its second week selling less then Mary J. Blige first week sales.
*Ouch*
Pick up MJB album….
Talk That Talk is rihanna’s 4th flop!!!!
@missimpartial
EVERYONE?? strong word choice but false…the people who mostly think 4 is a failure are young kids who dik ride pop music….lets not get opinion confused with fact…k 😉
and so what u think she put out the worst single choices…i think she could have left RTW and countdown out…but its not too late to release more singles…the album hasnt even been out 6 months……but i forgot we live in a day where people release albums every year…right?
@LOVE4BEY
I wish you would get your FACTS checked properly BOO….THAT mediacritic score is based on 21 reviews… but there are now 22 reviews of Rated R which raised its score to 76…..there has also been a negative review of 4 which lower it to 72
so dont try that s*** with….theres so much i could say but imma keep it cute BYE
i always laugh when ever i see a stan brag about beyonce..ur fav would never….umm no mathew has…..beyonce is lucky she has a decent voice and can pop her c****** like no other…
i remember when mathew used to pay off radio stations, to play her music 24/7..pay off radio stations not to play other artist that can become a threath..
when he used to pay off songwritters to give her songwritting credits..or say she wrote the whole song…
now look how shes struggling, now that mathew is not there anymore to pay off people, and take all the blame for her lies
@RATEDX(BASIC BROADS FAVS)
Why are you counting 14 out of 16 for Matthew? And this snub is really a bad timing as this validates it for the conspiracy theories who always said the reason for her winning so many Grammys is because of Mattew working at the Grammy committee.
@WHUT (CURRENTLY SIPPING TEARS OF UNFATHOMABLE SADNESS)
Which one of the five do you think Rihanna deserves the most?
and just discovered something else rihanna as a person has a Higher average score of 69 compared to Beyonce 67….. But yet Beyonce is the one 16 grammys, if your stracthing your dont worry im pounding mines, makes you wonder how she did right?…….just something i thought i share with yall
Was Beyonce “wronged”..? (Who cares..!!)
Sidenote:
“Kelly Rowland’s album, ‘Here I Am’ fails to enter top 40. Kelly Rowland may top the fashion charts each week on ‘X Factor’ but she’s hit a bum note with album sales.” Here’s the link: http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/gossip/110–pop/kelly-rowland-album-am-fails-enter-top-40-164859382.html
X,Y,”and Z” — OUT…!!
Several things:
– The answer is NO
– “4” is her best album but it´s not our fault that the girl was awared way too much in the past as we people with common sense always said. Her catalog is too basic to have that many grammys, she doesn´t deserve more at all. In other words I´m happy if from now on they ignore her forver no matter what
– She was also lucky that the grammys had way too many categories these last few years and that´s why she has that many. This year they eliminated many and this is the result. She never was a huge contender for the main categories. Among those 15 or 16 grammys only one is a main award (Single Ladies “song of the year”, yeah I know a mess, that year was also the joke of Taylor winning Album of the year)
– I like the grammys, I mean they are definitely the best awards and the ones that care for talent for the most part, specially in the past. Mariah, Whitney, Diana, etc not having many doesn´t mean anything. Not everybody can win. I´m ok with it. As long as people they awared were always talented too. The problem is when they have awared people in such an unfair way these lat few years. Beyonce being the biggest example
– Mariah lost big way while competing with Alanis Morissette and U2- I´m ok
– Taylor won Album of the year and Beyonce best song while competing with no big ones- I´m not ok with that
That´s all. And for the grammys this year, I hope Adele and Gaga can win big, although it will be difficult cos they compete in the same categories. I´d say Go Adele. Kanye deserves his wins in his categories too
umm 4 is a failure, for somebody like beyonce whos suppose to be KING of everything….
maybe if u guys didnt put the bish on a pedistal, people wouldnt be so harsh when it comes to beyonce..
maybe if yall would shut the f*** up and stop being so damn bitter when it comes to other artists achievements, people wouldnt be so harsh on beyonce..
dont blame the haters , blame yall damn self for beyonces failures….the bish told yall to shut the f*** up, and yall still acting like a damn fool…
not only yall f****** with her money..now yall f****** with her popularity…
@cockiness…
the only reason she has two points more in overall album average is because she has more albums to average honey…..i wouldnt get too excited over 2 lil points hun…..please go to a Rihanna post and brag about her two lil points over there
@X,Y,”AND Z”
The way you hate on Kelly is not healthy. It is like you have personal grudge.
I place no one nomination above the others. It is an honor to be nominated and to be nominated multiple times is even more rewarding. She is probably the hardest working chick in the game right now (just read she’s on health watch because she’s working so hard *sad face* ) so all her nominations are deserved and I hope she wins at least 1 or 2!!!
Yes,I feel she was shut out,especially in the R&B categories….
Besides these HORRID new rules The Grammys recently established placing males against females in pop,r&b and such,I also feel some of the DANCE categories are a hawt ass MESS as well!(due to this ridiculous ass rule of popstars including Rihanna and Gaga not being eligible)Many pop songs do chart well there so IDK why the Grammys decided to conjure up that rule.
Back to Beyonce,she got snubbed this year but as others have stated,I doubt she’s mad about it (due to the fact that she has 16 Grammys)
all in all,award nominations this season (overall) have been a FLOP!
Award noms this season….
MTV>Grammys>EMA>BET>T*** cghoice award>Nickolodeon awards>Thatgrapejuice Awards (which I think are going to happen real soon)>???>AMA’s
I think she was snobbed because she has so many amazing songs of 4. But then again, she does have 16 grammys at age 30 which is an achievement in its own right. Plus, with the reduced categories, it seems the competition is more stuff and it seems now that the recording academy is more critical, because if you look at the list of people nominated, it is the core rnb stuff there and she isnt core rnb. So, i think they should bring back contemporary rnb categories.
@MissImpartial
i counted 14, because the other 2 grammys she won as a group..so i dont count them as hers only..
honey some of us already knew for yrs now, mathew was the main forced behing all things beyonce…
@cockiness….
there’s soo much you can say?? girl dont bite your tongue …u picked the right bxtch…im off today and in the mood to drag a h**….continue please…
“i remember when mathew used to pay off radio stations, to play her music 24/7..pay off radio stations not to play other artist that can become a threat..”
Really, you remember when…
like you were there.. i dont think so.
i really wish this Bxtch who claims she doesnt like Beyonce would stay off of ALL her posts stating her recycled a** comments…..sit the fxck dooooownnnn….no need to even mention her…she know who she is!
Nope. She did not deserve more nominations. 4 is trash and her lowest selling album to date, so the masses agree.
Rihanna fans are acting like she is finally having a big Grammy night when she is only nominated for 4 (she is not a songwriter for “All of the Lights”) and is up against Adele in 2 of those 4 categories. That in all likelihood reduces her chances to a possible 2 wins just like Beyonce. Only 3 of the 4 are for Loud, do you consider that a big Grammy night? It’s not bad but Bey has actually had her BIG Grammy nights, walking away with 5 and later 6 Grammy’s in one night with double digit nominations. When Rihanna does something in that neighborhood then you can consider it a big Grammy night.
I agree w/ Kat Deluna fan for once!…..But no she wasn’t wronged, she got 2 noms..and think about it…Rih won a grammy for Only Girl (LOUD) last year and this year LOUD is nominated for awards, so Party got nominated this year and nxt year 4 will prolly get more nominations……Although Bey flopped hard this year..4 is no doubt a bomb ass album and will probably get its recognition nxt year..but then again Rated R got completely snubbed so u never know…..Sam and most of yall just bitter and mad cuz Rih got the nominations she did…smh…bitter ass b****** LOL…I luvs it!!!
@teacher.
I think you are right.. The same was with the B’day era.
Didn’t think about it..
I cant believe that I say it, but I agree with you!
Truth yes Beyonce got snubbed big time by the Grammy’s. I feel she should have gotten nom for the 3 big major’s and the R&B catagory as well. “4” was a great album with good quality of work. Although I now believe Adele will swept the grammy’s, it would have been great compelition having Beyonce nonimated also in the same catageories. Well maybe for 2013 she’ll be able to get due nominations that they snubbed her for in 2012. Beyonce should just now take a good 2/3 year away from the music industry and come back if she chose stronger than ever. Now is the time to just be about your family baby/husband and do you, you deserve that.
She wasn’t wronged at all. Last year she won 16 grammies so it’s fair she’s had little number of noms this year.
@MISSIMPARTIAL
how does beautiful liar not count? its HER song and very much and part and parcel of the bday era. Greenlight was her 4th single. i live in Europe! top 20 for a 4th/ last single is not a flop. u trying to discredit deja vu because it didnt make end of year top 40 is so way off. who wait’s till the end of the year to find out if a song was a hit or not. Point is bday singles didnt tank in Europe as u said.
@AuntieJackie – Beyonce is not the female with the most grammys. Please do your research before you make yourself look even more stupid.
2011 Grammy’s will be all about ADELE
@DAISY Smh at the disrespect gurl!! Is there ANYONE a Bey stan won’t try to steamroll to prop up their KingQueenJester!! SMDH!!
This was mos def some bull especially considering who she could have potentially be competing against. I don’t take these award shows seriously these days anyway. They don’t have the same meaning as they use to.
@BEY’KNIGHT
Top 20 in the UK is a flop artist get here dropped if they don’t get top 10 hits as for Greenlight it was the Freemason remix which entered top 20 not the original. They also did Ring the Alarm Freemason remix and it did not work, Beautiful Liar was on the re-release.
@Josh
and u know i wasnt there? for a fact right?
ok then
Do yo really think Beyonce cares as to what 4 was nominated for it got one nomination that better then any. And to the person that said some thing about Kelly Price album there is no comparison as far as album. As much as I love Beyonce there is no comparison.
Yellow Gorillah Does NOT think she was Snubbed
The b**** Got 16 Grammy’s!!!! are yall crazy
Beyonce has more grammy’s then MJ,Madonna,Janet,Prince, Mariah Do you know how HAARD it was for an artist back in the days to even get NOMINATED let alone WIN.. So the fact Beyonce owns 16 is just an abomination for true music lover’s. the b**** even STEAL Idea’s song lyrics, choreography and your telling me she has 16 loooool I never used the grammy’s after she won them 6 that night.
Nobody better even think I’m saying this because I am a rihanna fan because if rihanna had 16 Grammy’s I will also think that is B*******! + Call he rout on it I’m a fan but not a ass kisser
They grammy’s have finally Opened there eyes and have seen the mistake they have MADE. Beyonce grammy’s come from RNB Categorise that is why the CUT down on them categorise.
I also find it FUNNY how she fired Matthew and now she is getting snubbed Hmmmmm them storys we heard in the jungle about her dad buying her them grammy’s might be true after all
SHADE Aside I do however think that her album “4” should have been nominated for RNB Album because if FIST brown is nominated I don’t see why beyonce was not.
So NO! she was not snubbed she was just put into her place
And I just find it FUNNNNY how the beyonce fans through SHADE at rihanna Now LOUD is getting nominated for Album of the Year and best POP Vocal album Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Like I said I love beyonce as a performer but her MUSIC is just S*** to be honest.
Do you guys really think 4 is her best album LOOOOOOOL I like 3-4 songs the rest are BORING and album filler’s beyonce music discography is Pooor she always does the same thing again and again same sound same singing style same moves same looks as an artist she has always bored me but she is a hard working and a great live performer She deserves all her Vocal grammy’s and that is me being nice =]
I’m not gonna lie, this Era is a mess but, i feel bad not just for her look at Christina’s career, Britney is not the same anymore, J.Lo did well with one single but was just that…..the problem today it is that young people are more attracted to new singers or musicians under 25, is very sad that this generation does not recognize the work of those who was before their favorites. I grew up listening artists that my mon and dad used to play, singers like Elvis, Michael, Prince, Freddie Mercury, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Janet, Whitney, The Carpenters ect, and my generation was full of boy bands, Britney, Christina, Destiny’s Child, Aaliyah, Eminem and many more but there was a difference with the kids of today, we were Teens but my Generation respect the already legendary singers at the time, i feel like teens today think the Music doesn’t exists before artists like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber ect, there was a time when all musicians could have success no matter what genre, today it seems that only one singer could have a successful career, Beyonce deserve a place in the Music just like everybody who work hard like her. Lady Gaga pretends to shock everybody, i love her but its all a Lie, she want us to believe she is scary, like we never see something outrageous, i mean you wanna see something scary take a look to Marilyn Manson, that was Scary in his day, Katy Perry pretends to be fun when she’s a clown…. I feel sad for the talented people.
poor little tink tink..getting mad and s***..the truth must hurt like a motha….
whos the b**** now,
how u a bey stan and yet the haters knows more info about ur king than u do?
who the b**** now
THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Is Being Created in Europe to Create a One World Religion
Beyonce is Great
But Shes Not Worried How Poor People Reading this Site
Are Going To Pay Their Bills
Imagine People Talking About all this As World War II was About to Start
IT DOESN’T MATTER!!
Beyonce Has About 400 Grammy’s She WONT CARE About a Snub
Beyonce Is Really Nice But she Does Promote Illuminati
Police State Tyranny with Her MTV & Grammy Awards Sets and Visuals
She Needs To Get Out Now
Wake Up People Wake UP!!!!!!
You stayed home from work C*** it looks like you stayed home from school…..Do you know how to calculate the mean score of anything????????????
It does matter how much albums…..that why its called AVERAGE!!!!!!
If bey’s four albums where of good quality then she still will be able to get a better score than Rihanna
I Really dont believe i’m having to explain this to you…..i was going to do the calculation for you but no….. A dunce C*** like you still wouldn’t get it
That comment was for the Dunce C*** @LOVE4BEY
And NO Beystan should be telling any other stan where they could comment Cuz yall LIVE on every Rihanna post!!!!!!!!!
Honestly, I think Beyonce’s management is what killed her Grammy nominations. The Grammys go with artists, singles, and albums that have been mainstream, commercialized successes. Bey’s “4” is actually good, but the rushed management and lack of PR in between singles have confused people. No one has had the opportunity to enjoy a clear single from Bey…except Run the World….and that was not a hit.
If you think I’m kidding, look at Britney…Femme Fatale was great too, but the lack of promo and hype doesn’t go well over with the Grammys during nominations.
People like Rihanna and GaGa come with hype….
@
MISSIMPARTIAL
no its not a flop, UK artistes barely release up to 4 singles from 1 album. releasing 2 albums within18 month gap here is not out of the ordinary as well. ring the alarm was not released as a single here. Lady Gaga hasn’t had a 4th single enter top 20 in the UK, lovegame didnt and neither did you and i, Rihanna’s later singles too only manage top 20. Britney last 3 eras didnt have a 3rd single in the top 10, some even missed top 20. i’ve studied the charts over here and that’s the way it is in most cases. Beautiful liar might have been on the rerelease but she dint release any single b4 it that tanked. she came off that era with 3 top 5 single and 4 top 20 singles.
Of course Beyonce was wronged! This album is her best work on so many levels, period! It’s unfornate that Beyonce was not rewarded with nominations, but it comes to no surprise. It’s so many that have been waiting for this album to fail from the start and it’s done well despite all of the adversities. I was already convinced that “4” wasn’t going to get any backing from radio, from music academy’s , etc this go ’round no matter what the music on the album consisted of or what singles were released. Yes, this is conspiracy talk. They harp on Bey and she’s expected to reach a standard that many of her lazy peers aren’t pressured to. So now it’s always a statement made about everything that Beyonce isn’t getting in the music world, nothing makes bigger news. In so many pressed minds, it was a deep desire for Beyonce’s “4” era to fail miserably. Still, the numbers are respectable – despite 4 leaking for damn near a month and several unfair cruelties . That’s all that matters. Beyonce was clever enough to devise a game plan that assured her of this. This era may seem a bit unorthodox to some, but I think Bey’s brillant. Certain artist have it hard and Beyonce is one of them. She’s wisely countered alot of the opposition seen and unforeseen. She has another #1 album that is approaching platinum status, again. When your fav produced several #1 singles and is reaching a career high of only 1.6 million(after going double platinum only once). It’s a shame that Bey’s worst selling album is in the same neighborhood as another artists’ career high. As for haters, there’s never enough that she can do. Beyonce doesn’t need grammies, she has 16. The woman’s career is beyond successful and her impact is tremendous. She’s still quite relevant today and very much a leading artist (15 years after she’s been on the scene). She has been blessed with longevity and has nothing to prove, nothing or no one can undermine that. Still people try to come up with silly notions asking when will she surpass her previous work. When most of music’s biggest and most iconic legends didn’t surpass their biggest selling album on their 4th outing (after becoming established). Still, Bey has to do more than anyone that’s ever come before her. It’s such bs, when stans praise other artist for doing so little. Bey is still in her prime. People should stop looking for her to always top every person that comes along in the industry (especially when some of them are only getting 15 minutes of fame). Bey’s had her “Bodyguard”, “Thriller”, “Janet’.,”Daydream” moment (in the ’00’s)- did your fav get theirs. This album 4 could get 0 or 60 awards this era and it will still musically s*** on 98% of the albums in 2011!
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Beyonce got one nomination for “4.” Don’t care–never will.
What I do care about is this argument that the Grammy’s are solely based on quality. In SOME cases this is true, take Ledisi and Kelly Price’s nominations this year as examples, but in MOST cases, nope.
If ANY album that Beyonce has recorded should have done well at the Grammy’s, it’s this one. When thinking about “IASF,” which she won big for, and comparing it to ‘4.” I mean, come one now. Not to say to that I did not enjoy “iASF,” but “4” is far superior.
I don’t mind Rihanna being nominated for “Loud,” but over the far superior “Rated R.” Again, come on now.
2009 Album of the Year- Taylor Swift’s “Fearless”
2010 Album of the Year Nominee- Katy Perry’s “Teenage Dream”
The most critically acclaimed album of 2010- Kanye’s MBDTF, excluded from this year’s Album of the Year category.
2010 Best Contemporary R & B Alum- Usher’s Raymond vs. Raymond over the BRILLIANT “The ArchAndroid”
All of this can only be characterized as astounding fuckery.
Now, the Grammy’s do sometimes get it right in terms of quality–absolutely. See Arcade Fire’s win for Album of the Year last year and Bon Iver’s nominations this year. But to say that the Grammy’s are ONLY about quality, that argument can NEVER hold. In fact, people have been using sales & popularity as a reason an artist SHOULD be nominated and those who are far less commercially successful should be excluded based on that. Remember the death threats that the wonderful Esperanza Spalding received last year?
Logically flawed? Of course. But at least they are being honest.
I’m sure they will find a way to nominate her next year.
This is what beyonce shouldve been nominated for
Best pop solo vocal performance-Best thing i never had
Best r@b performance-1+1
Best r@b song-Countdown
Best r@b album-4
Best rap/sung collabaration-party
Best long form music video-i am tour
i think beyonce deserved all those nominations now the best r@b song for countdown could be debated but all the others my girl shouldve got nominated for them and i couldve seen her winning best R@b album and Best r@b performance
does it really matter ?!!
she has 16 , she can make a CBS special about them , she do not care ! her album still got a chance in next Grammy’s
even if she will never ever get nominated ” let’s assume ” , she still gonna be in grammys history ! for breaking grammys recorsd , whether any basic b**** like it or not !!
how many times you wanna us to tell your ass @sam ?!!
and because i know b****** are kinda slow these days
there’s someone who’s getting on my damn nerves :
@kat deluna :
when you are in forbes , got 16 grammy’s under your belt , sold millions of albums WW , broke records , etc …
then u can just do what make YOU ” and i repeat YOU ” feel happy !
BB homemaker is doing just that !!
she did it all !!! ” hope @s*** do not see this post cuz that sounds like a beyonce stan is talking ” , but whatever !
bey is that b**** who did it all and prove it all , now she can do whatever she please and what will make her feel good !
she made 4 for the fans , if u r a fan u will appreciate , if u stan for success , go join the adele bandwagon train , it’s available !
u can even stan for your CHARTY PERRY ! or bruno mars !!
*throws a boof bomb and leaves*
SALAM !!!
@ROYALKEV
insightful as ever! that should have been the supporting article to this post (no offense to tgj staff). I completely understand your points. All of those factors together; the heat, the hate, the expectations, the criticisms, the accomplishments, the accolades everything is what puts Beyonce on the highest pedestal overlooking popsphere this generation. when i click Aaliyah’s videos on youtube today, what other name is paraded thru the comment section? yea u guessed it; The Beyonce reign comparisons, for better or worse. if Bey wins another grammy great, if she doesnt, good. she already has more than some artists will earn in a lifetime.
Death @Royal Kev calm down gurl your giving us pressed x infinity!!! I’m just shocked she didn’t see try to somehow tie 4closure in with the Davinci Code with the level of pressed she is giving!! Its gonna be alright hun!!
No, wtf, the b**** has like 20 million grammys to her name. Why not give it to other ppl who deserves it now. Her time is over. Its now a new era.
4 is her BEST ALBUM SO FAR! i was expecting her to get more Nods from the GRAMMY committee but i guess they weren’t feeling it from her this time,so better luck next time Bey 🙂 but im sure she isn’t pressed about it! she already has 16! that’s a lot. but i do believed she deserved atleast 4 wins from this album! oh well..
No, not really. The songs she presented to the public were pretty generic. Since this is Beyonce’s most mature album and it comes on the cusp of her entering a new stage of woman hood I expected more from her. I hope her next album can be what she intended this album to be because I can see aspects of greatness peeking out but this right here…shakes head.
In the end I think Beyonce fans just need to deal and get over it.
Either it’s popularity or true talent, whichever excuse they’re using now something went wrong. I personally think she had a so-so album coupled with bad promotion.
THIS ALBUM 4 was about beyonce and being in love. it wasn’t about promotion and sells and awards and all of that. She haven’t even been attending awards shows like she regular do. Even though 4 does deserver grammys at least best R&B album. They mad coz she wasn’t singing POP music this time sounding all white. Beyonce Album was number 1 world wide. And Beyonce don’t need promotion because the media promote her. As soon as her album cam out she was on every magazine until that album came out.
@KAT DELUNA FAN
You actually made quite a few valid points. I like Bey but leaving her fathers management because one of Joe Camel’s stoogies feed her a line of bull about her dad stealing money, was simply crazy. Camel has been trying to manipulate things to get his hands on her fortune for a minute. I was surprised a year ago when they announced how much she grossed, it was 90 million and her husband 27 million that year. I knew then he was going to try something shady to get her coins!
ASAP (AS SINCERE AS POSSIBLE)
December 2, 2011 at 1:22 pm
The Grammy’s have to get themselves a new policy.If their goal is to award the best out of the current mainstream field, then Beyonce deserved much more recognition.If their goal is to award the best out of the entire industry, mainstream and underground, artists whose personal standard is noteworthy, acts that really try to make a difference, then 1-2 nods is exactly how much she should be getting.
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THIS!
Lmao at the “Beyonce already has “beyonce has done” statements cause it’s a nice way to say GIRL RETIRES.
l dont want the b**** to retire,she is young,she is talented and still is beautiful.l want her to lear from her past mistakes and not repeat them again.
You are all saying beyonce is such THIS,is such THAT but all l saw this era was a lil girl lost and a career jeopardizes because of incompetence.
l saw all her flaws this era,it’s pretty clear what beyonce can do or not .
She is a human being,l dont hold it against her;nobody is perfect but this ERA SHOWED THE FRAGILITY OF BEYONCE S CAREER AND THE KNOWLES CAMP.
HaterzStayPressed
December 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Why do Beyonce fans say she brought back R&B music? Example please…..
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THIS!
MOBWIFE
December 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm
@KAT DELUNA FAN
You actually made quite a few valid points. I like Bey but leaving her fathers management because one of Joe Camel’s stoogies feed her a line of bull about her dad stealing money, was simply crazy. Camel has been trying to manipulate things to get his hands on her fortune for a minute. I was surprised a year ago when they announced how much she grossed, it was 90 million and her husband 27 million that year. I knew then he was going to try something shady to get her coins!
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l forgot about it 😆
Trust me even if Rihanna makes more money than Bey,Bey wont wake up.
Even if Jay,rih,kayne made more money and win more awards than her.she wont wake up
she is a lost cause.
What happened to Solange signing at hois label? 😆
l mean l dont sound crazy cause 1 or 2 people sometimes get where l am coming from.Thanks
@KAT DELUNA FAN, how would you rank Beyonce’s albums?
To be honest ’4‘, ‘Dangerously In Love‘ and ‘I Am..Sasha Fierce‘ are three different types of CDs produced for different reasons. Beyonce said 4 was more of a personal journey and based on her present state of mind. I enjoyed her last 2 more but hey that’s just me. The die hard Bey fans love all of her music .
I don’t know if she was snubbed but I do see a turning of the screw. I think Joe Camel is at the helm of a carefully laid conspiracy. He has her money now that he convinced her to axe dear ol’ dad. And he now has her pregnant (o_0). His “Golden Goat” is making him money. Illuminati Jay has them all dangling from a string! While screaming #winning LOL 🙂
4
BDAY/IASF
DIL
@MOB
She is upgrading him while rihanna is upstaging her for him #winning
can u pls stop with this Jay has her money concept pls. he’s net worth is more than hers even the year Bey made 80 million, he made 82 million. He gifted the woman an entire private island for Pete’s sake. yall tryna make a story out of a non-story. jay and Bey were married b4 she releassed IASF so its not like 4 is the 1st lp since their marriage. Matthew was kicked to the curb cus he messed up as was reported or maybe she was ready to pull the reins herself
oh and i hope all u Matthew Knowles enthusiasts are supporting his tv show and new girl group. it’d be a shame to your advocacy if your man cant boast of another story. after all if Matthew was indeed the missing piece in this project he should be able invest his acumen on another artist right…..
u know what they say, “those that can, do, those that cant.[turn to a reality tv show to save their dwindling career from perpetual oblivion]”
I don’t think that she was wronged at all. It’s almost as if people were expecting her to win each and every year. Maybe all of this happened for a reason, to prove that even the “best” can’t win all of the time. One of the best albums this year in my opinion is Jill Scott. And, even she is not nominated, I don’t think. (In my opinion, she highly deserves it!) So, it just goes to show you that even the “best” artists don’t win all of the time. Her album this era was just a lackluster effort on her part. Maybe now she will take some time off, focus on being a mom and allow that to help her artistically. Her next album should reflect that growth.
I dont really blame the public for some peoples failure..i blame some of these record companies who keep pushing down these basic broads down our throat, while they put the real talent in the back burner..
but my thing is also, if ur album is the s***, it should be able to stand out on its own..f*** all these basic generic songs out there….
people needs to stop with the, my fav album didnt do good because people prefer crap..no bish ur fav album didnt do good, because nobody gave a f*** out it..point blaank
You all need to also remember that this marks the 1st real change to the GRAMMY’s in decades. They have done away with MALE & FEMALE CATEGORIES which is just CRAZY AS HELL TO ME! They have made it impossible to win now. As rigged as these awards now are how in the world is anyone surprised as to who and what is nominated?
@KAT DELUNA FAN
December 2, 2011 at 4:39 pm
@MOB
She is upgrading him while rihanna is upstaging her for him #winning
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EXACTLY! 🙂
Yesterday, I would have said yes but now I’m not 100% sure.
I’m not saying Beyonce is fading but a happy marriage and a pregnancy ALWAYS put a hold on a successful career.
If she was married to her manager, it would have been a whole different story but she’s married to Jay-Z who is just as famous and successful as she is.
It’s very disturbing that Roc Nation got all those nods (LOUD, Album of the Year? GTFOWTBS) and Beyonce and Kanye got shut down because of their love for Jigga ( Kanye stopped promoting MBDTF to start working on WTT, Beyonce got pregnant).
I’ll say this, let’s wait for Grammy 2013. If ‘4’ gets snubbed again, I’ll urge Beyonce to pull a “Justin Timberlake” and just stop making music altogether.
I don’t know a mainstream pop female artist in a steady relationship with another high profile artist (Janet, Madonna, Whitney, Britney, Xtina, J-lo,…).
If Beyonce wants to keep her marriage on the rails, she will have to become Mrs Carter and focus on her household. Like Annette Benning, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Jada Pinkett or Mrs Denzel Washington. It saddens me but is what it is.
and whats real sad and patheticc, the folks that keep focusing on numbers
just because ur album sells more than somebody else, doesnt mean ur more talented…
just because u win all these awards, doesnt meant ur more talented….
people put to much focus on sales and awards….no wonder music is down the shitter…
my thing is, if u have to brag how many grammys/awards ur fav has, or how much they sold..trust and believe theres competition…
OF COURSE ITS WRONG!!!!!!!
BEY HAS THE BEST ALBUM OUT STILL TO THIS DAY…AND TO PUT RIHANNA IN THE BEST POP VOCALIST CATEGORY IS HIT IOUS!!!!!! AND HILARIOUS!!!!!! LMAO
BUT THE GRAMMYS LIKE EVERY OTHER SHOW WILL BE BORING WITHOUT ALL THE REAL TALENTED ARTIST
I am tired of ppl accepting the bullsh** notion that R&B, Blues and Gospel aren’t important categories in music. Why is it that Pop and Country are the only musical categories that are considered “mainstream and legitimate”? Boy I tell you some folks are delusional and crazy. There is nothing illegitimate about an art form that birthed the rest of this crap. Blues birthed Country/Blue Grass and Rhythum & Soul birthed this Pop ISH!
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@RATEDX(BASIC BROADS FAVS), I totally agree.
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@MOBWIFE, you betta PREACH!!!!!!!!!
She was definitely snubbed! 4 is probably her best album to date. I don’t believe that her father ‘bought’ her grammy’s but if he did it just proves that the Grammy’s are a bunch of bull! Money & popularity over talent.
I dont think she was snubbed if any of you know I Am Sasha Fierce was released in 2008 but she picked up all the awards for it 2 years later last year 2010. She got 2 nominations & I think that she’s happy with them
@Bey’knight
December 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm
@dev
Chris brown’s album is more pop than rnb. Whatchu gottta say about that?
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Both Chris and Beyonce produced very good R&B CD’s with a Pop blend.
All of ya’ll are wrong beyonce doesn’t even care. this album was more than just an album to her it meant something. the number “4” represents special days in her life including with husband jay z. which is why she rather be on tour to support him then, promoting an album to pp that don’t understand. bey is happy bout her baby and that is all. music isn’t everything she has a personal life and a family.
She’s still making money , so i think she’ll remain unbothered by her Grammy nominations or her lack of them . But it’s pretty much because they took away the male / female categlories so now she’s got more competition for 5 spots .
she doesnt deserve an award for that album just because she is beyonce doesnt mean she gets a grammy evry time she puts out an album exspecially “4” which in my opinion is her worst album Dangerously in Love was her best .. I think they got it right
Im so MAD I missed this Thread 🙂
SO MANY B****** would have been FING DRAGGED!!!
Like @RATED X & That Damn Delusional @YELLOW M*****!!
PPL have LOW STANDARDS on this Blog…
thats why MOST on here dont Appreciate 4, B’Day, or IASF. 😕
The IRONY of the “MUSIC” they Stan for with the NERVE & AUDACITY to Talk S***!! 😆
Talking S*** is My BizNess B******!! 🙂
At the end of the day no one can deny that ‘4’ didn’t have fantastic music on it.
Not as commercially successful as she would have wanted but it is a great album and deserves more!
But she will always have her next album!
And how did ‘Loud’ get a Album of the Year nomination? I’m sorry, love Rihanna but that album no way deserved that.
The music was decent but the songs on there got boring so quickly.
She didn’t have an original sound on most of the songs and Bey did on all her songs.
Rihanna deserves individual song nominations but no way album of the year sorry.
No she was not wronged! Beyonce is carrying her Grammy, Oscar, Tony, Nobel Peace Prize and so on in her stomach. Do y’all really think she cares about this stuff now? No. This is the very reason why artist like Rihanna are superstars in the eyes of some of you nuts! Find another topic this was last years news already. I’m a beyonce stan, fan, groupie and so on and know without a doubt she was not wronged…
l dont want matthew to come back in her career .Why should the old man repair all the mistakes she did during his abscence? he is like 50 years old,he deserves some time to rest and more b****** before he dies.
He worked hard for Bey and the DC.He was here o defend her when the rumors were going around,he was in the tribute at the BMA to show love.Was Jay in it? was jay defending his own baby bump rumors s***? nope.
Matthew did his best,now it’s time for Bey to learn and correct her errors and mistakes she is doing in her personal life and her career.Matthew provided an amazing platform for her.
Now Bey need no learn the same lessons as Xtina,Ciara,Toni braxton…what it is to lost the spotlight because of stupid decisions,arrogance,big egos and d****.
*lose the spotlight
RESUME: l think the grammys didnt snubbed the album,they snubbed Beyonce.
@WHYOWHY – More grammys the better at the end of the day.
Even if she doesn’t care she still deserves what is rightfully owed.
Remember everyone vote at Peoples Choice Awards for Bey!
SAM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT BEYONCE GETTING SNUBBED, BUT WHAT JILL SCOTT? JILL DESERVES JUST AS MANY NOMINATIONS THAN BEYONCE.
PLUS CONGRATS TO KELLY PRICE. THESE YOUNGSTERS DON’T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT REAL MUSIC AND PLUS I LOVE THE SONG, “NOT MY DADDY.”
@JAIYAH, co-sign that Kelly Price nomination! My favorite nomination of them all. GREAT album!
@KAT DELUNA FAN, “l think the grammys didnt snubbed the album,they snubbed Beyonce.”
That is VERY interesting.
I was reading a few other blogs yesterday and this is the point a lot of people were making about Kanye. Yes, he has the most nominations but the fact that he didn’t get the Album of the Year nomination has more to do with Kanye and not the album.
Because there is no damn way the most critically acclaimed album of 2010 should not get that nomination–damn that!
KERI HILSON GOT SNUBBED
Can you spell OVEREXSPOSURE?
“4” is a failure. That’s it. She didn’t impress anyone with it. Flop singles. Underperformed album sales. Snubbed on awards shows. Something really went wrong with era. I love B, but “4” is my least favorite album (including DC’s). Actually, I just bought it to support her. I like the songs, but I feel like there’s something missing. It sounds more like a compilation of her previous work than a real new album. I’m not saying it is a bad album. It’s good, but it isn’t her best. I want to see Beyoncé doing different things, just like she did with B’Day and IASF, “4” sounds like she mixed DIL, B’Day and IASF together and made an album.
I think Grammy did the right thing. I wouldn’t never give any award to an album that features a song like ‘Run The Whatever’. I have a love/hate relationship to it, this song is hot if you play it once but it gets annoying pretty fast. Other I played RTW and I thought “Wow! This song is incredible”, then I played it again and I knew what it flopped so badly on radios. I think RTW could’ve been a hit in 80’s, people were experiencing sounds, there was room to anyone, but since Michael Jackson and Madonna, songs have to use the pop formula or radios won’t played.
“Best” was the best choice to follow up RTW. It did fine and it’s the closest thing that we can call a hit from this era.
“Countdown”… O-M-G! WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?! It makes no sense to release a song that is similar to floppest single of her career! She should’ve released it ONLY if RTW turned into a big hit. Countdown was faded to flop. I like it, I love the way she plays with her voice and beat, but… no!
“Party” is actually one of the biggest radio hit of this era along with “Best”. Isn’t funny that “Party” and “Best” are the most radio friendly songs on the album and they turned into the biggest hits of this era? For radios: POP FORMULA > EXPERIMENT. Didn’t B’Day teach you anything, Bee?
Summing it up R&B IS DEAD AND BURIED. And to top it off, she released unfriendly radio songs as singles and radios have heavily been playing europop songs. R&B + Unfriendly songs = FLOP. No one is that powerful to change the whole pop formula that has been used for 30 years! Beyoncé can’t do it. Rihanna can’t do it. Gaga can’t do it. No one. Deal!
@GILBERTO, so you’re saying that Beyonce should STRATEGICALLY follow a generic pop formula so she can be commercially successful?
And when you say that “R&B IS DEAD AND BURIED,” I’m assuming that you’re referring to mainstream, 90’s era, success driven “R & B?”
She wasn’t really that deeserving of all of her 16 that she has now she was deserving of some but not all so she will deal hopefully its motivation to come harder and stop being too proud as A.Keys has 14 well derserved Grammys and you don’t see her dusting them off in music videos she is humbled.
Its because she’s got no cheat sheet: Matthew Knowles
@BitchIcantevenspellwelfare
“so you’re saying that Beyonce should STRATEGICALLY follow a generic pop formula so she can be commercially successful?”
I’m saying that radios only play obvious hits. Songs like RTW and Countdown don’t have no chance to have impact these days. Beyoncé has used that same generic pop formula on several songs of hers.
“And when you say that “R&B IS DEAD AND BURIED,” I’m assuming that you’re referring to mainstream, 90′s era, success driven “R & B?””
R&B genre isn’t dead. R&B on radios is.
@Gilberto, got’cha.
I think it’s the fact that the male/female categories were eliminated but I was seriously expecting it to at least get nominated for Best R&B Album. She was snubbed in that category I think. But if you look at the singles she released-mainly “Run The World (Girls),” and “Best Thing I Never Had” those two songs didn’t really have much of an impact. I didn’t really see those 2 songs getting nominated in the first place.
The reason it only got one nomination is because “4” sucked tits. It was not her best album and people saw that, hence why she only got nominated once. She should be lucky she got that.
isnt matthew on the grammy committee? he must have said ‘eh heh, you want to fire me??? nooo grammy for u”
GILBERTO
December 2, 2011 at 9:15 pm
“4″ is a failure. That’s it. She didn’t impress anyone with it. Flop singles. Underperformed album sales. Snubbed on awards shows. Something really went wrong with era. I love B, but “4″ is my least favorite album (including DC’s). Actually, I just bought it to support her. I like the songs, but I feel like there’s something missing. It sounds more like a compilation of her previous work than a real new album. I’m not saying it is a bad album. It’s good, but it isn’t her best. I want to see Beyoncé doing different things, just like she did with B’Day and IASF, “4″ sounds like she mixed DIL, B’Day and IASF together and made an album.
I think Grammy did the right thing. I wouldn’t never give any award to an album that features a song like ‘Run The Whatever’. I have a love/hate relationship to it, this song is hot if you play it once but it gets annoying pretty fast. Other I played RTW and I thought “Wow! This song is incredible”, then I played it again and I knew what it flopped so badly on radios. I think RTW could’ve been a hit in 80′s, people were experiencing sounds, there was room to anyone, but since Michael Jackson and Madonna, songs have to use the pop formula or radios won’t played.
“Best” was the best choice to follow up RTW. It did fine and it’s the closest thing that we can call a hit from this era.
“Countdown”… O-M-G! WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?! It makes no sense to release a song that is similar to floppest single of her career! She should’ve released it ONLY if RTW turned into a big hit. Countdown was faded to flop. I like it, I love the way she plays with her voice and beat, but… no!
“Party” is actually one of the biggest radio hit of this era along with “Best”. Isn’t funny that “Party” and “Best” are the most radio friendly songs on the album and they turned into the biggest hits of this era? For radios: POP FORMULA > EXPERIMENT. Didn’t B’Day teach you anything, Bee?
Summing it up R&B IS DEAD AND BURIED. And to top it off, she released unfriendly radio songs as singles and radios have heavily been playing europop songs. R&B + Unfriendly songs = FLOP. No one is that powerful to change the whole pop formula that has been used for 30 years! Beyoncé can’t do it. Rihanna can’t do it. Gaga can’t do it. No one. Deal!
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you need a f*****’ GRAMMY for that comment @gilberto !!
*APPLAUSE*
@BEY’NIGHT,
i am kind of surprised 4 wasn’t nominated in the r&b category, and yet they nominated chris brown??????
and this is actually really late in fact 7 years late but now that i think about it, why the hell was DIL not nominated for album of the year back iin 2004??????
just a thought.
@Commander
The CB nomination is exactly why i think Bey was snubbed on purpose. If they nominated his hit singles, i’ll get that but the album as a whole was less commercially n critically successful than 4. Honestly its no biggie to me, infact i wish Sam never made this post. Bey is fine n thats all that matter. Consedring the happiness in her life now, i hardly think she’l be sittin at d edge of her seat come feb so its not a completely bad time to be snubbed by the grammys lol. I knew they she wasnt goin to be a big name at the 2012 show cus her 6 grammy win is still recent. The other big winners that nite, Taylor Swift, BEP also got snubbed but not as bad as Bey. At least Gaga was nominated in AOTYcategory. They snubbed Bey durin bday era too so its just a cycle to me.
Wow i dint realise She wasnt nom’d AOTY for DIL. Wow n she got it for her most commercial album- IASF. Well they’ve made it clear where they want her. Bey may just go back to that now but i think at a point she should stop caring about them She has more grammys than anyone needs for validation.
@Gilberto
Can u pls speak for yourself? Im very much impressed with 4. So are the critics they appreciate it more than any of her albums. Go n compare the metacritic score for all her albums. Its fine if its ur least fav album by her n u prefer ger radio-friendly sound. Thats your prerogative. Bey knows whats on d radio so not havin europop on her album was a conscious decision. She said her definition of success has changed. The critical acclaim of 4 is success in itself. I think it’s a bit much calling the entire album a failure; no other RnB singer can say they have a ww no1album that has passed the 2mil mark right now but hey each to his own. It takes courage to step away from a winning formula/ popular music n do something more heartwarming.
NO…..Beyonce don’t deserve the nom she got……Miquel should have been on the list at least for 3 nom.
She didnt get any noms cos 4 was shite! End of.
I lov bey and I definitely think she should of been nominated for more! 4 is a brilliant album
KERI HILSON WAS sNUBBED BY THE GRAMMYS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT KERI HILSON’S ALBUM WAS BETTER THAN BEYONCES 4.
beyonce is not gonna win that nomination she has some touch competition.
BEYONCE IS FADING AND SHE THINKS SHES THE BEST.
So, people want Beyonce to go back to pop now??Why?’IASF’ sold by the bucketload but it’s a laughing stock for all the professional critics and the serious music fans.The award shows appreciated it of course, but that doesn’t mean much, granted that they’re always biased.
‘4’ underperformed and the execution lacks in cohesion, wow factor and real hits, but at least it was an ALBUM, not a collection of random songs that have the potential to become either radio hits or ghetto gams (‘IASF’).She is not 23 years old, she’s in her early 30’s and after all the praise she’s got, sticking to a pop formula re-cemented by the likes of Katy Perry, Rihanna and Ke$ha would re-establish her high profile in the mainstream media, but it would also ruin any chances of her getting REAL respect in the long run.She will look like a follower…and that can’t be good when her fans call her an icon…
Beyonce should stick to whatever makes her happy.She shouldn’t sacrifice her musical preferences and her ghostwriters’ musicianship for easy pop hits, she should follow her musical instinct and establish some kind of an artistic identity, which, besides the lights, the tight outfits, the impressive collections of wigs and the 4 No.1 albums, is still lingering.If she wants to do her thing, she has every right to do so and if she never sells 5 million copies ww again, that’s ok.
*ghetto jams
BEYONCE DIDN’T BRING S*** TO R&B stop lying for this washed up cocky copycat. beyonce is a pure gimmick and a bad role model for this generation. nobody bought 4 because beyonce steals too much. i agree keri hilson was snubbed by the grammys and alll the other award shows this year. keri hilson monica marsha and jill scott are the only female artist pumping out real r&b albums . THE GRAMMYS IS A POPULARITY CONTEST NOW . THEY DONT NOMINATE REAL R&B THEY NOMINATE LOW BUDGET ARTIST LIKE BEYONCE AND RIHANNA WHEN OTHER ARTIST ARE THE ONES MAKING THE REAL MUSIC
just compare MICHAEL JACKSON’S, BRTNEY SPEARS AND USHER’S WIKEPEDIA TO BEYONCES, AND U WILL SEE THAT BEYONCE IS NOT A TOP ARTIST. U ARE A GREAT ARTIST IF U CAN SALE ALBUMS NOT WIN GRAMMYS. BRITNEY USHER AND MJ ALL GOT DIAMOND ALBUMS. BEYONCE DOESN’T HAVE ANY DIAMOND ALBUMS BECAUSE SHE SUCKS D*** . BEYONCE IS OVERRATED! BEYONCE IS NOT THE BEST FEMALE ARTIST OUT THERE. KERI HILSON’S PRETTY GIRL ROCK CHARTED HIGHER THAN EGO, VIDEOPHONE,GREENLIGHT, PARTY , COUNTDOWN, 1+1 , AT LAST, WORK IT OUT, LISTEN, AND RUN THE WORLD GIRLS. AS MUCH AS BEYONCE STANS AND FANS HATE KERI HILSON. HER SONG PRETTY GIRL ROCK CHARTED HIGHER THAN OVER 10 OF BEYONCES PAST SINGLES IN HER WIKEPEDIA.
beyonce will never make it as a pop star she has too many threats like rihanna lady gaga katy, even keri hilson makes better pop music than beyonce. rihanna is slaying beyonces career with 11 number one hits. beyonce should quit music!!!
The 4 era is an embarrasement period
The music and videos were great but she is unable to run a career in the 20th century.Today:
-you create hype for the song
-you release a song on iTunes
-you hype the video on blogs
-you call couple of radio stations
-you release de music video
All this in 2 weeks.
This era had no HYPE,she releases the videos when she was feeling it,the songs leaked,the album leaked,the music videos were controversials,the promotion was a ATOMIC MESS ………………What was Beyonce doing? Praising Kelly,promoting Jay & Kayne,giving advices to rihanna or helping JCOLE
Now,they are all doing better than her.Like @MOBWIFE said,Jay offered Beyonce’s career to Rihanna on a plate;this era is the one rih should finally take over her.He is the real winner
l wish Bey retired cause she is not focused.As a fan,l dont want another embarassement like this 1 or 2 years from now
Don’t worry ya’ll 2012 is Queen Bey’s year 😉
Reading these posts & SMH: I really hope none of u ’75-page dissertation’ commenters are more than 19 years old. If ur grown and arguing extensively w/ people about Beyonce, Rihanna…etc..,Seriously….Get. A. Life.
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Beyonce has 16 Grammys. She’ll be alright. Let someone else rack up some awards.
SHE MIGHT HAVE GRAMMYS BUT HER MUSIC IS TRASH!!!!!!!!
PRINCE JUST RELEASED A NEW SONG, AND IT’S ALREADY SLAYING SOME OF YALL FAVES ON ITUNES.
HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@KAT DELUNA :
beyonce was experimenting with “4” , OK !!!
chill !!
how you want her to be mainstream when she released A ” don’t-sound-like-anything-on-the radio”-TYPE OF ALBUM ?! 8o
she did it all , and at this point , she can do whatever !!
and i’m A RIHANNA STAN , and let’s me be honest with you , beyonce is not that easy to RETIRE , she wanna give her fans her all and wanna extend her talents !
if u r a stan , as u always say, you should have seen it !
i’m not even a bey stan and i appreciate what she do !
but yes , to be honest , the ” 4 era” has been messy , even more than “b’day era” , but both of them was her experimenting !!
she still can’t top DIL , that’s my opinion , but 4 is a great album , the thing is it was handled horribly !
good luck to her next time !!
YOU CAN STAN 4 RIHANNA if u want instant success and hits 😛 , BUT when rihanna do experiments , ppl don’t like it and she do the same as beyonce 😡 , so ..
CHILL …
How was ‘B’day’ experimental, though?It’s my favorite Beyonce album, but it’s not experimental or groundbreaking at all.The lyrical context, especially, is just mundane.’4′ is not experimental either.
Not generic =/= experimental.For example, Adele is not generic, yet Bjork is experimental.There’s a difference 😉
Honestly I dont believe Beyonce is trippin off of being the #1 anymore.. She does DEFINITELY want to always be successful at living her dream but She wants some kind of help already.. She feels nows the right time to have a baby because shes pleased everyone the best way she can for over a decade.. Its TIME for beyonce to be able to Just make a record for simple enjoyment and not to be trying to be in this chidish competition everyone tries to make her apart of. She said herself she never competes with anyone She only tries to top herself and can you blame her? What female entertainer went to her caliber besides the likes of Lady Gaga and Nicki Minaj and there only introducing themselves.. Beyonce is here BEEN HERE and is no longer in the race.. Shes now the JUDGE!! Leave her BEY guys… She needs to Raise a child soon and she dont need everyone hounding her because she followed her heart and did music for the simple purpose of liking what SHE heard and not what will get her the Best-selling record… Now you guys make me sound like a Stan.. lol I just really think Beyonce deserves some patience Understanding Compassion and RESPECT!! All musicians who try as hard as she does to entertain us deserve a lil room to just do what they want be who they are and lose the judgements sometimes.. Geez Shes Pregnant yall .. Smh
When I said “She wants some help already” I was referring to .. I think she wants help on pushing the limits creatively in entertainment performance music . So she does a Video with Gaga..( one of the potential Best to come ) and attended a MinaJ show.. ( One of the Best to come ) shes passing the crown over when she does these things.. Giving props to where props is due and giving her support to show that its okay.. if you think you can get up here JUMP!
ROBBED? The b**** got 16!? Hell.
She was not robbed. It was justice for all the Grammys she should not have won in the past. Her music is basic. She has 16 Grammys while true LEGENDS like Whitney and Mariah are in the single digits. Lets get real. And for people who are saying she doesn’t care, she does. Why else would she release so many singles and videos near the Grammy’s submission deadline? Like another poster said, she was looking for the “R&B” version of “21,” and the album sucked in that regards. She even said she was looking for critical acclaim and didn’t care for what the public wanted to hear from her. So what if she decided she was going to sing tons of ballads to get nominations. No one said she couldn’t sing. Collectively “4” was weak, IMO
1+1, I was here, Love on top, Those all should have won a grammy. But she has 16, maybe they don’t want her to surpass Aretha. Or does she get more for the 2013 Grammys? I think jill scott, beyonce, miguel, and nicki all got robbed
In the end the only thing Beyonce NEEDS to do is hire someone to do her manager work. It’s not shameful, everyone can’t be good at everything and no offense to her but there’s a reason people go to college and study business. If she doesn’t want to work with her Dad again then she needs to hire someone of amazing callibar because this was such a mess. And the worst part is it was a mess because she didn’t know how to handle basic promotion and common sense planning.
People Magazine called it when they said her album was more hype than content. ALL those mag covers she did in the beginning, seems like she was plastering her face on every piece of printed material she could find. Which is fine…but pictures don’t sell music or encourage people to listen to your music. She chose a bad single, performed it to extremes and then didn’t do any other performances. Being pregnant doesn’t mean you can’t perform, it just means your signature of wig whipping will need to take a break. She couldn’t even get on a stage and just sing after announcing her pregnancy, Lord only knows why she pre-tapped her performance for that late night talk show.
Then the video anthologies, again fine in context, but she barely gave any single video a time to shine before it was buried by the next. I heard Countdown on the radio 1x before it was buried by Party…and I liked Countdown and hated Party. from a business POV Beyonce just doesn’t have the chops to run it on her own. I think she should just enjoy her pregnancy and think more critically about her moves next go around.
ASAP (AS SINCERE AS POSSIBLE)
December 3, 2011 at 11:18 am
How was ‘B’day’ experimental, though?It’s my favorite Beyonce album, but it’s not experimental or groundbreaking at all.The lyrical context, especially, is just mundane.’4′ is not experimental either.
Not generic =/= experimental.For example, Adele is not generic, yet Bjork is experimental.There’s a difference
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experimental for her ” BEYONCE”
and NOT generic might be experimental at times you know … 😉
and Bjork work is not experimental , it is AVANT-GRADE !! another level of experimenting #REAL ARTIST ! but TBH , she’s kinda boring to me 😆
4 was not a commercial success, but it definitely was a critical acclaim and received very well by critics. She just had a bad leading single, other than that Beyonce did music with substance. Unlike the other pop stars who are making radio music
Let me add, Beyonce hasn’t done any serious R&B for years. IASF was pop and “4” was a pop album also. Its artist like her that is marketing themselves or albums as R&B and Soul when they are truly pop that is killing the genre period. Lets not forgot Jenn hud, Miguel, and Jasmine Sullivan didn’t get any nominations either. Leave the R&B to TRUE R&B artists and not to pop artist who try to garner nomination in those categories like Beyonce has in the past to increase their chance of winning.
@MIL JACKSON
Yeah your right. Beyonce is just doing what makes her happy now. I don’t think she is worried about the #1 hits or whatever. She said it herself, “what do you do when you win 16 grammys, whatever makes you happy”
@ERNESTINE
Beyonce is originally a R&B artist. She just was able to crossover to pop, but still does her R&B roots. ‘4’ and ‘dangerously in love’ were mostly R&B. ‘4’ has more R&B than pop songs. 1+1, I miss you, party, I rather die young, Love on top, I would even throw in ‘start over’ and ‘I care’
YASSSSSSSSSSSS @ Gilberto reading 4closure for filth!!! Don’t back down cause the other Stans are still in delusion GIlberto gurl!!! You have earned your position as the voice of all Bey Stans!!
no.
l dont stans for the next bicth just because my fave is not foing great
l am glad to see bey stans not delusional at least.Gilberto,Mobwife,ASAP and l have a clear understanding of the situation.Rated R flopped but not because of the promotion or the management;Rihanna is not talented but she will never stop an era to go on vacay or spend days watching her ex-baller bf plays .RR flopped because of the music reception was not it.
only because B is a terrible management.She was snubbed because she fif all wrong.Xtina also gave up on her album promo and flopped.Why do you let 4 years between each era? bad
@POP ROYALTY Not generic could be experimental in some cases (Madonna’s ‘Ray Of Light’ for example), but in Beyonce’s case “experimental” as a term is a no-no.The beats, the arrangements, the vocals are elements that in one way or another, we’ve heard before.And I won’t even talk about the lyrics.She gets a pass because she can pull them off when she’s performing with attitude, but if you READ her lyrics instead of listen to them, you may actually giggle with some songs.
And Bjork is experimental, but you just have to know how to appreciate her.She’s not everyone’s cup of tea.And I personally didn’t like ‘Biophilia’ but the b**** pulled off an album about the damn nature.When you record and release a 5-minute song about viruses, you know you can call yourself experimental 😉
Im on the fence about it. To me, “4” is Beyonce’s best album to date, and is more deserving of grammy nominations than her previous work. I like Beyonce, but it seems like she got handed a lot of Grammys due to her dad being on the committee and maybe shes receiving a backlash since she fired him. Or maybe she just isnt that popular anymore. Who really knows? I just know that I think that 4 is actually the album that DESERVES grammys…to me, DIL and IASF did not deserve all the grammys they recieved.
THE MOVEMENT IS HAPPENING, PEOPLE HAVE GROWN TIRED OF HER, IT’S TIME TO SAY GOOOOD BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! CUZ THIS IS IT FOR HER, YA’LL HATE TO Admit that she’s no longer the it girl, just face it, time for better music to come. ALL THESE PEOPLE YOU ROOT FOR ARE CONSTANLY GETTING LOWER, AND LOWER ALBUMS SELLS. PEOPLE ARE READY FOR SONG OTHER THAN THIS POP S***, WE ARE AS A PUBLIC BORED WITH THIS S***, POP MUSIC IS GOING TO BECOME LIKE DISCO WAS, REJECTED NOT LOVED ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LISTEN TO THE FOOLS GOING ON ABOUT MATTHEW BUYING GRAMMYS. SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLES BUT HE STILL IS ON A GRAMMY COMMITTEE AND THIS JUST PROVES THAT THERE CLEARLY WAS NO FOUL PLAY AS SHE WOULD HAVE SCORED ALOT OF NOMINATIONS AGAIN!!!! Don’t go on passing your opinions as facts!!!
Anyway fact is EVERYONE including the hating navy know Bey was snubbed! But then again who knows, she could have given wrong submissions or waiting to submit them for next years grammys.
@OMG LMFAO! Look up the actual grammy’s she got then you will understand why it got all of those. The album was aperfect mix of both RnB and Pop so she got awards in both MAJOR categories.
THE B**** H** DIDN’T DESERVE THOSE 16 FLOP GRAMMYS
I really feel like people don’t appreciate a great “WORK” when they hear/see it. “4” was just as deserving of grammy nominations as “Dangerously In Love”. “4” is a great LP. I love it. An artist like Bey who is fully involved in her craft, should be recognized for her work and her growth as an artist. From singing, to dancing, to performing live.Love you Bey. “4” is a true cohesive album.
– C.J.
beyonce is not r&b she is trash!
No, the category she normaly win in ” Contemporary RNB” has been eliminated she going to to have to go straight pop or straight RNB , but that mix of pop.rnb wont work anymore
Yes, certainly.
Critically, the album was reviewed positively, but not extraordinarily. Almost every review mentioned that it was not as good as her previous works.
Commercially, the album did not do very good. To date, it has only sold 1.8million ww, and less than 1million in the US. It also lackes a top 10 single.
Beyonce is talented, but she needs more than her talent to get her a grammy nomination. Her past mass of grammy awards are enough for a life time. Stop winging.
Also, Rihanna’s nominations were WELL deserved. Rihanna’s albums have ALWAYS been ignored by the Grammys. Loud has sold 6mill WW and over 1.5 in the US. It has produced 3 immensly populer no.1 singles. No hate to Rih. Besides, noone expects her to beat ADELE for AOTY or Pop Vocal Album. I think Rih will get her Rap/Sun Collab award tho for WMN.
her album came too late and charted right after the nomination board met their deadline. She will be nominated next year so I’m not worried.
4 is fantastic. It is truly a classic record. The snub is what happens when you are over praised for earlier work. The vocals on 4 are superior to anything she’s ever done.
@RLS, Absolutely! She won 6 Grammy’s for “IASF,” but it is nowhere close to “4.”
Beyonce deserved some type of Grammy nod for the Album 4..I definitely did not like Girls Run the World as her first single..tooooo kiddy for the Grown woman status she wants to achieve and has achieved on the rest of the Album.
I believe the controversy with her copying certain elements of her videos from others with regards to Girls Run The World and Countdown probably put her at a disadvantage with the Grammy board..they just didn’t want to deal with all the controversy I’m sure.
Sasha Fierce didn’t deserve all those Grammy nods..that Album and B Day to me were her WORST ALBUMS even though Single ladies was an anthem song..it’s really what she is good at…creating Anthem Songs..
History will be kind to Beyonce..her video for I Was Here is an awesome testament to the kind of Artist and Performer she has been…I wouldn’t call her the female Michael Jackson cause I truly believe that is the status she would like..but she is definitely a beautiful hardworking entertainer..that deserves respect..PERIOD
@HaterzStayPressed : 4 is a critically acclaimed album honey.
Metacritic (73/100)
Rolling Stone 3.5/5 stars
Spin (8/10)
Etc to just name a few. It debuted at No.1, dont forget. I agree that it was managed terribly, but it defenitely deserved nods in atleast the R&B categories!!! It is her best album per se, though singles wise it didn’t reach much.
@HaterzStayPressed
Example how B brought R&B back
Loud being considered an R&B album is an insult to R&B music and Riri is more a Dance and Pop artist. B’s 4 brought back old-school R&B and Soul styles like climbing of octaves(Stevie wonder), souring vocals and acrobatics that Remein associated with the song(Whitney Houston) etc…
@c***
December 2, 2011 at 12:49 pm
no1curr about kleptonce or her s***** album 4closure… bye b****!
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Your name says it all!!
@ Darianna Jones
Well said honey!!
as far as vocal performances Beyonce deserved a grammy for 4 , r&b album Beyonce deserved a grammy for 4
I think she should’ve got nominations in Best R&B Album, Best R&B Vocal Performance (1+1 or I Was Here), Best R&B Song (1+1) and Best Pop Vocals (Best Thing I Never Had) and Best Long-form Music Video ( The I Am..Tour). What i really feel sad about is these things:
1. ALBUM OF THE YEAR:- Doo-Wops & Hooligans – Bruno Mars, Loud – Rihanna
WTF??? What about Kanye and Taylor??
2. Best Pop Solo Performance:- “Firework” — Katy Perry ??? How is this happening??
3. No nod for B in any R&B category.
But whats done is done. I mean, B already has 16 Grammies, 3rd among Females, 4th youngest winner, 5th highest honoured album (IASF), Most Grammies in a night (Females), Second Most nods in one night and second most nominated female. She is THERE, an artist who doesn’t need to prove anything, just like MC, Celine, Whitney, MJ, Janet and the lot. She is the Biggest Artist of our Gen, Along with Brit and Christina( She’s got a combo of both, dont she??)
Mathew aint around anymore to make them Grammy purchases behind the scenes
NO KELLY ROWLAND WAS SNUBED OF MORE NODS. COMMANDER, MOTIVATION WERE BIG HITS AND THE FACT THAT SHE WAS ON EVERYONES RAZOR AND WAS EVERYONES SONG IN AMERICA AND THE UK, SHE DESERVES SOME CREDIT. AND THIS IS SAID THROUGH THE EYES OF A BUSINESS MAN NOT A FAN. IF IT WAS FOR HER, DAVID GUETTA AND WILL I AM YOU WHERE WOULDN’T BE THIS DANCE,R & B CROSS OVER FEEL MUSIC. GIVE CREDIT WHEN IT’S DUE AND SHE DESERVES CREDIT
the Grammys are CLEARLY a JOKE.
The album is MUCH better than some nominations.
And Im not even a Beyonce fan.
Quick question for the dumbass’s here: How did Matthew buy her all of her nominations and grammy’s if B’day only received one grammy under his management, whereas the prior and the successor album swept??? Disproved you irrational there right there….dumbass ppl
I can’t say I am a Beyonce stan but I listen to her music. I had a convo w. my t*** daughters few years ago. I told them Beyonce is a big a she is in the music industry becuz she has little to no competition in pop and r n b and she aso had good management behind her. She was on a fast track to becoming the female version of MJ. So what happened? She now has more pop competition Adele, Lady Ga Ga, Katie Perry, Taylor Swift. Also, Bey’s videos are not innovative anymore. I always felt that her great videos do wonders in selling her music to the public. Her management not much to say here it’s speaks for its self. It doesn’t help when she is accused of stealing creative ideas, songs and concepts of other artist and she is misleading the public about her pregnancy. She doesn’t have to do all this with her preg. so we don’t know the due date just stay out the public eye for 9 months n enjoy preg. But She loves being in the press!!! That’s another reason her career is going downhill.OVEREXPOSURE. Great Artist know the danger of overexposure. She also needs to learn how to relate to the public make herself LIKEABLE. Most feel she is TOO robotic. Tyler Perry and Oprah built their emipire on being likable by the public and they have very loyal fans.
I’d buy anything by beyonce cos she’s the real deal – but I have 2 b honest & say I found ‘4’ incredibly boring. Give me talk that talk, femme fatale, born this way and even love?.. Over Bs album. I want an album I can jam in my car & dance to iny bedroom!
IF THE F****** GRAMMIES ARE A JOKE, WHY THE F*** ARE YOUR FAVS ALWAYS CRYING ABOUT NOT GETTING ONE! ?? WHY THE F*** ARE YA’LL SO BLIND, THE REASON SHE IS NOT GETTING NOMINATED IS BECAUSE, HER F****** MUSIC SUCKS, RIHANNA MUSIC SUCKS! WHY THE F*** DO YOU THINK ADELE HAS SLAYED A B**** TO DEATH WITH HER ALBUM, ONE SIMPLE SOLUTION, THE GIRL HAS SOMETHING WORTH A F*** TO SING ABOUT, PLUS BEYONCE IS JUST F****** BORING NOW! WHY DO PEOPLE FEEL THEY CAN’T ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THESE H*** HAVE HAD THEIR TIME, THEY WILL NOT AND CANNOT BE ON TOP FOR THE REST OF OUR F****** LIVES! PEOPLE GO THROUGH THESE STAGES IN THEIR CAREERS! THE REASON BEYONCE IS SNUBBED IS BECAUSE SHE IS ALWAYS AT THE AWARDS, EVERY YEAR SHE WINS FOR A S***** ASS ALBUM! WHEN ESPERANZA SPLADING WON BEST NEW ARTIST I KNEW RIGHT THERE THAT THE GRAMMIES ARE TIRED OF JUST FEELING LIKE THEY HAVE TO PROMOTE B******* TO PLEASE THE MASSES! THE GRAMMIES NEED TO START HAVING A CREDITABLE IMAGE AGAIN. SO IF YOU WANT THESE LAMES WHORES TO WIN, BE NUMBER ONE, BUY THERE F****** ALBUM! AND OH YEAH, THE UK IS NOT INFLUENCING THE USA AS HARD AS THEY USED TO, ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE UK GET S*** LATE, SO THEY THINK ANYTHING THAT COMES THERE WAY IS FRESH, BUT THE USA IS TAKING OUR MUSIC BACK! YEAH KEEP HYPING THESE H*** UP, CUZ REALLY NO ONE, REALLY BUT YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC IS CHECKING FOR THESE LAMES H***!!
Im a Beyonce fan but her 3rd album I Am…Sasha Fierce was not as enjoyable for me like 4, yet I Am..Sasha Fierce was nominated for a bunch of categories and I didnt think she deserved them, HOWEVER, this album 4 was Really Really good! I love the R&B influence, it was her 2nd best album for me behind DIL.
Songs like 1+1, I Miss U, Best Thing I Never Had, Party, End Of Time, and Love On Top are gems and deserve recognition, this era for me spun circles around the last and I do think she was snubbed and robbed this era. Though her lead single wasnt her strongest (I feel it shouldve been End Of Time) everything else about the album deserved recognition.
True Very True that Beyonce has alot of Grammys and has already cementing her place in music history but it doesnt deny the fact that most of the time the best works are always the first overlooked.
I really like the 4 album. Did it deserve more nominations . Best Thing should have been the lead single and Countdown should have been the follow up that probably would have helped with the grammy nominations and album sales those songs had more of the feel of her prev albums imo. Even if she got more nominatios would she win? not sure she has alot of competition from other artists whose albums did very well. Releasing Girls Run the World first really hate Album sales she got a lot of bad press for CD before it was released. I think this CD is much better than Sasha Fierce. Most of the songs on that CD had to grow on me but I liked the 4 CD as soon as I heard it. I thought it showed a different side of her vocally more mature and experienced. She had just gotten married ;’Maybe becuz Im older I could appreciate the growth more than sum of her younger fans. She is married and more mature so her musical sound is in transition from when she made her first solo CD.
YES BEYONCE WAS WRONGED 4 ALBUM WAS HER BEST ALBUM TO DATE SHE EXPERIMENTED WITH DIFFERENT SOUNDS THE ALBUM WAS AMAZING CANT GET ENOUGH OF IT I THINK SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONGED BY THE GRAMMY’S…
she has 16 grammy’s I think she’s doing fine.
OF COURSE BEYONCE HATERS ARE GOING TO SAY THE REASON WHY SHE DIDNT GET ANY NOMINATIONS THIS YEAR WAS BECAUSE MATTHEW DIDNT BUY THE GRAMMY COMMITEE AND THE ONLY REASON WHY SHE EVER WON ANY GRAMMY’S WAS ALL BECAUSE MATTHEW IS NOT HER MANAGER ANYMORE LMAO YALL HATERZ KILL ME…
I love Beyonce but I have to say that I don’t think ‘4’ is her best work. It definitely has some good (and some great) moments but as a whole, there was just something lacking. So, I agree with her not being nominated this year. It’s nice to know that the awards aren’t always just about names and superstar status and that they can be about the actual work.
HELL YES SHE WAS ROBBEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT ITS THE TRUTH AND IF SHE WAS NOT PREGNANT AND PROMOTING THE ALBUM WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL
SO TOO ALL OF U ALL U ARE TALKING BULL S*** SHE IS EVEN MORE FAMOUS NOW BEING PREGNANT AND SHE IS NOT DWINDLING ANY TIME SOON HER TALENT S*** ON UR FAVS ONE MILLIONS TIMES OVER LETS SEE HOW FAR THEIR RECORD SALES AND NUMBER ONES WILL GET THEM THEY ARE A BORE AND ARE IRRELEVANT SHE IS STILL GOING ON STRONG
SO BIG UPS TO HER
THEY ROBBED HER BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get over it already. This album is a mess and not what people are saying as the best R&B album. She is just so overrated – thank God for the Academy waking up to the truth. I loved “Love on Top”, but the rest of the songs are just over self indulgent.. This is her take of doing art, and it failed. So move on & try again next time.
YES ! BEYONCE WAS SNUBBED! HER ALBUM ‘4’ SHOULD BE NOMINATED FOR ALBUM OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE IT IS ALBUM OF THE YEAR !! SHE ONLY HAS ONE NOMINATION & THAT’S FOR ‘PARTY’. GRAMMY’S ARE THROWING SHADE !
Hope she still performs at the ceremony, she is amazing.
Her songs and album were amazing, I thought they would have been more enthusiastic about this album that I Am… poor Bey, but hey, she has got so many now I’m sure it doesn’t bug her.
Rihanna fans shut the f*** up,, riri has 4 grammys which two is hers only and the other two from collobs and u wanna talk bout 4 please so why didnt u talk when Rated flop didnt get any grammys at all,,,not to metion Talk That Flop is already fading,,,,So shut the f*** up………..IF rihanna is so good why cant she pass adele in anything but #1 hits,, why cant rihanna fans talk about how adele is killing her….Point is i love beyonce’s 4 it may not be as successful as her others but it is doing well but trust me the next album beyonce releases will hit hard as f*** and then i want to hear you rihanna fans…..Rihanna need to sit her ass down and take a f****** break i mean six album in six years, and its the same mainstream pop s*** she doesnt take risk music wise at all her songs are the same on every album,but i guess she can only go where she makes money
It is not fair that Beyoncé’s 4 isn’t nominated, at least, on the r&b categories – like B’Day was.
But do you know that she is the 3rd most honored woman in Grammy history with a total of 16 awards, and with 44 total nominations she is now the second most nominated female artist in Grammy history, behind Dolly Parton, with 45 nominations.
Yep BeyBey was wronged as “4” is one of her best albums to date, very strong songs accompanied by mostly good videos. Run the World is epic, so too is Best Thing I Never Had. End of Time is also one of the best songs this year. Jennifer Hudson’s album, “I Remember Me” also deserved 5 nominations MINIMUM. Jill Scott should have been recognised for “Light Of The Sun”.
4 WAS WRONGED!!!
IT DESERVED MUCH MORE THAN 1 NOMINATION..
it deserved much more nominations..
Especially 1+1, countdown, end of time AND i WAS HERE
YEAAAHHH maybe NEXT year she gets her nominationsss!
Hmm…..you know, things are beginning to make more sense as time goes. The way she treated her former band mates, she is unoriginal, copies people all of the time (be advised that there is a difference between being INSPIRED and COPYING), claims she wrote songs she never did, lies…..I can go on and on. Well, in this case, I would say karma is a b****, but I won’t go that far. Someone mentioned it earlier: it’s funny now that her dad is no longer her manager, she is no longer getting all of the nominations she has received before. Personally, I believe a lot of people, to include these critics are seeing her for what she really is. Ever since her new CD she has copies almost (if not) ALL of her videos from someone else. What the hell? I don’t care what some of you say to me…I’m a hater, I’m jealous, etc. etc….the truth is the truth, and it hurts, doesn’t it? It is what it is. I have nothing against her but let’s be real here.
Oh, and to answer the question…NO, she was NOT wronged. Most of us know these awards are based on popularity instead of true talent and musicianship.
KERI HILSON GOT SNUBBED FROM 2012 GRAMMY NOMINATIONS AGAIN!
Period point blank why didn’t Jill Scott get nom?? Wack. Grammys always have been about who’s popular. How many times jay-z got a nom for somethin he did years ago. Beyonce needs to give me a 2-3 yr break. I’m feeling adele, rihanna, Mary, Katy, keri, chrisette michele, Jill, angie stone, jennifer hud & a few others but honestly DIL was beta best album to me the rest was corny. But she making money
Honestly, why are people talking about her management being poor, she just took a different approach to it all, and because it doesnt scream desperation like some artists singles (rihanna), people are blaming her for poor management. I just wanna know how you can nominate party, but leave out some of the most powerful songs like I was here, 1+1 and I miss you, not to mention some of her amazing dance numbers such as Countdown and Run the World. Her album 4 definitely deserves more recognition and it is the number one highest selling album of the year. Overall I think her album came out too late anyway, so that leaves a number of singles left out. Like she said, “for get all the record sales, you should be doing it because you love it.”
HELLLLLLLLLL NO KERI HILSON DESERVES A GRAMMY!
how is the grammys throwing shade? keri hilson never won a grammy jazine sullivan
Simply, Beyonce is the baddest chick in the game, and she simply derseved every grammy she qot because her songs and ablums where simply better than the people she was up against and everyone thats a Beyonce fan or even not a fan should know that. And the fact that you guys are saying her dad bought her grammy`s such a hater MOVE she was just simply the best hands down. Beyonce does things that no mel nor female could ever think of doing she is really bad for all the right reasons and if you look at everything that she had done you will agree that everything she has she DAMN well dersves it. And yeah this album could`ve been better coming from Beyonce i mean but come on HONESTLY the people that where up this year albums where simply better and they sold more but do you think BEYONCE cares no because everything they are doing she has done it A MILLION times so she letting them have thier shine but please beleive that BEYONCE IS ONLY WARMING UP!!!
#TEAMBEYONCEE
I was shocked when I found out that she was only nominated for one award….I think her album “4” is beautiful , soulful, and original. I love Beyonce and think she should definitely have been nominated for more awards.
WHAT THE FLYING F***. BEYONCE SHOULD WIN ALL THE AWARD! Why isnt she nominated/!?! BIAS S***
They Grammies cheated beyonce with nomination for 4,the album was gud as a whole,the were songs that were very gud that deserved to be nominated.