Though it isn’t as publicized as it should be, Mary J.Blige remains R&B’s only consistent female ‘seller‘.
Unfortunately tarred with the same brush of perception that’s sullied her genres worth to the wider public, regular releases and well executed campaigns have ensured that her numbers remain favorable and at times miraculous even at their ‘worst’.
Her ‘worst’, being watching her latest LP ‘My Life II’ receive Gold certification after six months. A certification, many of today’s R&B releases are unlikely to ever see…ever.
However, by way of Rihanna‘s smash hit ‘Diamonds‘, Blige is on course to lose a record set in 2005 with Bryan Michael Cox penned ‘Be Without You’.
Chart details below…
Despite technically being a Pop number, Rihanna‘s ‘hue induced’ positioning as an urban act has seen ‘Diamonds’ soar on the R&B/Hip Hop Songs chart- now spending its 14th week at #1.
If it spends another week at the top next week, it will become the longest running R&B #1 of all time, snatching the record from ‘Be Without You‘ which once sat secure with a total of 15 weeks at the top.
A testament to her status as being one of the only R&B acts to break commercial records with R&B material, Mary’s currently undisputed record saw her best chart runs by even her strongest of competitors. These being Beyonce‘s ‘Single Ladies’, Usher‘s ‘Climax’ and Ciara‘s ‘Promise‘.
However, as a result of Rihanna’s dominance over Top 40 radio, sales of ‘Diamonds’ have seen it reign supreme on Urban tallies across the globe, despite little backing from the Urban outlets that will no doubt take ‘Pour It Up’ to similar heights.
R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: @rihanna‘s Diamonds scores a 14th week at #1 – the record for longest #1 run is held by @maryjblige‘s Be Without You (15)
— Chart News (@chartnews) January 11, 2013
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LMAOO DAT RIHANNA REIGN ! YALL WILL MODAFUKIN DEAL RNB OR NOT…WATCH RIH MAKE HISTORIH ON THE RNB CHART 😉
People are qucik to say rihanna is not R&B
yet …
Rated R was R&B
GGGB was R&B
Unappologetic was R&B with one pop song – (Right Now)
AGLM was a mixture of Reggae & R&B
MOTS was Raggae & R&B
Rihanna’s Only Pop album was Loud!!!!
Examining her #1’s
Take a Bow – R&B
Umbrella – R&B
LTWYL – Rap/HipHOp
LYL – Rap/Hip/Hop
Rude Boy – Hip/Hop With Raggae
Whats My Name – URBAN!
Diamonds – Urban
Pop # 1’s
Only Girl In The World
We Found Love
S&M
S0S
Contrary to popular beliefs mid tempo doesnt make it pop or R&B if you compare
Katy Perry’s Wide Awake To Rihanna”s Diamonds its Clear as Day that wide awake is pop and Diamonds is R&B
if im not wrong that means her R&B numbers out weigh her Pop record right?
furthermore Rihanna is a versatile artist her voice transcends the barriers of Genres hence the reason it may become problematic for one to confine her or to label her music
all these people cryng about diamonds being #1 on the R&B charts
give no f**** to R&B artist and the record sales prove it!!!
Bey put out a R&B album instead of going pop and it was her worst album not saying DIL wasn’t R&B
but the point is these people do not support R&B acts so there complaining and bitching is contrived and irrelevant as f***
Uuumm no. If Katy Perry sang any of these songs, you wouldn’t dare deem them R&B. Because she’s black, you wanna call her music “R&B” which is wrong. So I disagree with you about her being R&B post MOTS.
Yall need to give it a phucking rest!!! Rihanna is POP… Plain as day…. She has RnB influences yes, but its POP.
FYI putting an urban/hip-hop artiste on your record DOES NOT MAKE IT URBAN OR RNB…. ITS STILL POP…..
Are you saying that all of Britney Spears’ mid-tempo or slow songs are RNB?
Seriously?
Wide Awake and Diamonds are both POP RECORDS…..
You people need to stop forming unsubstantiated opinions. Most of the reports on music are being published by people who have studied music. Not just a fan…. or someone who listens music. Its being done by people who live, breathe and sleep music!!!
Listen…..
Just for the record…. I did study Music as well…
So this is not just me babbling!
ok im going to list songs for you….
Rihanna Hard… R&B
Rihanna Man Down – Urban
Rihanna California King Bed – Country?Urban
Russian Roullette – Urban
Wait Your Turn – Urban
Te Amo – Urban
Whats My Name – urban
Pour it Up is Urban
Stay – Urban
Take Care – Urban
Love The way you Lie – Hip Hop
Umbrella – Urban
Talk That Talk ft Jay – z – Urban
Birthday Cake – Urban
Cockiness – Urban
YDO was urban as f***
Hate That I LOve You – Urban
the girl is more urban than pop and u disagreeing with that makes you delusional as f***
Go on itunes and see how her albums are grouped under genre 6/7 are regarded as R&B
Unappologetic is rihanna’s most R&B album
from Genuines Pony Sampled Jump
To Stay To Pour It Up
To Nobodies business…. Fresh off the Runway is ratchet as f***
so again my friend LEARN MUSIC please and thanx
Yes THORN RIhanna is a POP STAR
she is THE MOST POPULAR MUSICIAN YES!!!!
AND HER BEING NUMBER ONE ON FORBES SOCIAL MEDIA PROVES IT
irrespective of that the majority of her discorgapghy is R&B
it would be nice if you could name me 15 POP Songs From Rihanna’s Discograpghy of over 120 songs
Rihanna is not RnB!
DOES THIS DUMB FANBASE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RNB AND A POP BALLAD? DAMN, IT’S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
We Ride = RnB
Hate That I love You = POP ballad
Umbrella = Pop
Te Amo = POP ballad
Having a rapper on your track doesn’t make it urban or RnB. If that’s the case then “California Gurls” would be called an urban or RnB track.
RnB = Melanie Fiona; Mary J, Elle Varner, Keyshia Cole, Brandy, Monica, etc.
@FreshNavi
i don’t really agree with your list, i think it’s more like this :
Rihanna Hard… Urban
Rihanna Man Down – Pop/reggae
Rihanna California King Bed – Pop with Country influences
Russian Roullette – Pop ballad
Wait Your Turn – Urban
Te Amo – pop
Whats My Name – pop
Pour it Up is Urban
Stay – pop ballad
Take Care – Hip Hop/rnB
Love The way you Lie – Hip Hop
Umbrella – pop
Talk That Talk ft Jay – z – Urban
Birthday Cake – Urban
Cockiness – Urban
YDO – pop
Hate That I LOve You – RnB/pop
Shes a Pop artist with influences from Dance, Electro, Techno, reggae, rnb….
Rihanna is an extremely talented versatile superstar !
i stoped when u said umbrella was pop…..
i just cant *walks off*
Umbrella beat and lyrics = pop is written all over them and maybe some RnB influences in her vocals.
Ella ella eh eh : you can’t get more pop than this !
The beat is essentially synthesizers and drums….
i understand babe… but alot of the songs that you label pop are not… you would never ever see billboard put umbrella #1 on the pop charts
@Fresh Navi…Umbrella is def POP, no if’s, and’s, or but’s…and if i’m not mistaken, Umbrella did reach #1 on the Pop Charts…that’s one of her most successful singles to date!
How the f*** is Umbrella pop???? The song is categorized as a mixture of pop and r&b. Just like a lot of todays R&b so deal. the song peaked at 4 on the r&b charts.
Umbrella was offered to Britney first. If Britney had sung it no one would now be debating whether it was pop or not. It would be considered pop. The reason it’s being debated is because Rihanna is black and it features Jay Z.
So unfair, Diamonds is not even R&B…. Sad days for R&B….
True and im a RIHANNA stan!!! but it aint her fault!!
R&B because she’s black. this s*** has got to stop. totally unfair especially when real R&B is dying. it’s such a slap in the face.
I love Rihanna but Billboard needs to get it together with there s***** ass rules its like taylor swift when she releases an album and it goes #1 on the country chart when shes a pop artist smh
Oh… Who actually gives a F*** if it is R’n’B or not.
Ya’ll sit here BITCHING about “R’n’B this and R’n’B that” but yet you dont go out and help purchase R’n’B material. If mainstream R’n’B artists made CREDIBLE material, then we wouldn’t have these conversations. When HIP-HOP finally decides to remove itself from Contemporary R’n’B, then people will buy it. Until then, R’n’B will forever sit in the back wings collecting dust. Bring back RHYTHM AND BLUES!!!
Anyway, yes Rih. – You better slay with your Electronica influenced “R’n’B” song.
SLAAAAAAAY!!! 😉
there are no R&B mainstream artists.
There haven’t been any in over 8 years
Yes there is.
Trey Songz, Chris Brown, Usher, Mary J Blidge, Keyshia Cole, Monica, Brandy etc… are all MAINSTREAM R’n’B acts as they all experience MAINSTREAM success as opposed to more indie-R’n’B acts like Ledisi, Elle Varner, Lalah Hathaway etc…
What do you think MAINSTREAM means?
Commercial success ～ Mainstream success. Having a number one single doesn’t equate to mainstream success but being exposed to a large mainstream audience does.
Your comment is everything. #nuffsaid #boom
at the same time, it is hard to buy it, if it is not being played on radio stations or anything. the radios aren’t going to play a tamia or tank song as fast as they are going to play diamonds, even on the rnb/hip hop stations. the radio djs joke about the lack of success certain artists are not having, yet they are not helping bc they are not playing their music, rather the same rnb artist, usher, beyonce cb, riri, trey and keysha, but no one else…just saying
AmbeRussell
http://www.youtube.com/ucohesiveser/AmbeRussell?feature=mhee
no one will ever beat mariah carey with her singles on top 100 billboard
Rihanna is on her way soon
MARY J BLIGE IS STILL THE QUEEN!!! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!
sad sad sad diamonds is not r&b ., music is dead just dead sad
And Sam, I’m sure you’re gonna blame Rihanna for breaking this record… Take your frustrations up with billboard
i love Mary she still the queen her keyshia cole k michelle need to do a song together that will be so good my favorite album from mary was whats the 411 i really thought rih song diamond was pop it sound more pop then rnb i rarely hear it on urban radio i hear it mostly on pop radio
Diamonds is a good song. It deserved success on the hot 100 but y does it need to hog the r&b charts too considering it’s heavily pop? Well I hope this encourages r&b to step it’s game up and the listeners to support it. On another note, pour it up is garbage ugggh I hope the hype around that song dies quickly. Can’t stand it.
Im happy for Rih but id rather have an actual R&B song at #1.
YEAH QUEEN RIH!!! ANYWAYS DONT BLAME THE QUEEN BLAME BILLBOARD!! EVEN THOUGH AS A NAVY…I WILL ALWAYS BUY RIHANNAS SONGS AND ALBUMS…BUT DIAMONDS IS NOT R&B HOWEVER THERE IS ONLY ONE THING TO DO ABOUT R&B IS BUY THE ARISTS RECORDS ITS THAT SIMPLE. BUY KEISHA COLE AND BRANDY AND FANSTASIAS ALBUMS!! HOW IS IT THAT BRANDY HAD A GREAT ALBUM AND ITS STRUGGLING TO GO GOLD? BLAME YOURSELVES AS WELL!!
Yassss Rihanna. Make thes haters mad! Not even Adorn, Lazy Love could do this s***. LMAO! Beyonce won’t do it either!
That Rihanna reign though!!!! Breaking some kind of record with each album she releases!!!!!!!!!!
And another thing:
I think true R&B as we know it, has been dead for years. It has been replaced by, a lack of imgination, weak lyrics and processed beats. For me, what is now “considered” R&B, is the industry’s way of coming up with something that USED to sound like R&B, except now, it has lables like…”Neo Soul”, which is NOT R&B (kinda like the difference bewteen, Pespi and diet Pepsi…”Close but no cigar”) The days of live instruments are few and far between and if there is a live instrument, the melodies, are dull and the lyrics wimpy.
And really, people are tired of re-iterating the SAME thing. Thrre is PLENTY og good R’n’B out there. Just GO AND LOOK FOR IT!!!
FFS!
that music still exist, it just is not getting the proper promo as it should. they are playing the same 7 rnb artist and same 9 rappers on the hip hop/rnb station and they took away a rnb station in nyc area, so there is just 1. and the pop stations only play 4 rnb singers n those arent even rnb songs, just the dance electric dance pop songs…
AmbeRussell
But!!!!!!!!!!
Diamonds isn’t R&B, what fuckery is this??? These charts are becoming as mediocre as the Rihanna gimmick.
girl stfu you stan for the biggest gimmick in the industry…
@Cake Just take that up with Billboard, You Loose
big mamma wearing BLOOMER Bytchs are forever
and a day Bytching. Wait and see how many different
Genre’s the New Music Will Garner when all the artist drop their Music for this year. We will see many artist under different charts that is going to be different from what it has been in the pass,,, .
In music it’s not strange for RIHANNA’S MUSIC,,
to cover pop, r&b, hip hop, rock, reggae, etc.
There’s Hip Hop, r&b all of it is together they had a big
write up about How they was changing things. And another thing Rihanna isn’t supposed to even be good enough Artist to SEE HER NAME ON NONE OF THE LIST IF SHE IS HALF AS BAD AS THIS SITE , AND HER HATERS ALWAYS TRIES TO MAKE HER OUT TO BE,
So I wonder If GRAPE GOT THE RIGHT RIHANNA Posted up top because the RIHANNA FENTY ME AND HER NAVY KNOW THAT THEY CLAIM RIHANNA FENTY “HBIC” DON”T KNOW HOW TO POUR PUSS OUT OF A BOOTH,,,,IF YOU LET THEM TELL IT,,,,
@GRAPE ARE YOU SURE U GOT THE RIGHT ARTIST, SINCE YOU HAVE DID A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO PAIN RIHANNA AS A “NOBODY IN THE MUSIC GAME”,,,
Got the right person Named., It just seem to me that
Grape can write, post and throw shyt at Rihanna 24/7
and there seems to Always be some Entity That have
got RIHANNNA AND HER NAVY’S BACK, EVERY SINGLE TIME,,,
RIHANNA CAN’T HELP IT THAT HER MUSIC IS SELLING AND SINCE MANY OF YOU ARE ALWASYS SAYING RIHANNA IS A SINGLE’S ARTIST THEN,,,,,WHY DON’T
ALL OF YOU SHUT YO ASSES UO AND LET HER AINGLES SALE,,,
DON’T WORRY ABOUT WHAT LIST RIH IS ON JUST BE HAPPY THAT THE EX DESTINY CHILD ARTIST ARE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO SHINE FOR THE SUPER BOWL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER 8 YEARS,,,
People are qucik to say rihanna is not R&B
yet …
Rated R was R&B
GGGB was R&B
Unappologetic was R&B with one pop song – (Right Now)
AGLM was a mixture of Reggae & R&B
MOTS was Raggae & R&B
Rihanna’s Only Pop album was Loud!!!!
Examining her #1′s
Take a Bow – R&B
Umbrella – R&B
LTWYL – Rap/HipHOp
LYL – Rap/Hip/Hop
Rude Boy – Hip/Hop With Raggae
Whats My Name – URBAN!
Diamonds – Urban
Pop # 1′s
Only Girl In The World
We Found Love
S&M
S0S
Contrary to popular beliefs mid tempo doesnt make it pop or R&B if you compare
Katy Perry’s Wide Awake To Rihanna”s Diamonds its Clear as Day that wide awake is pop and Diamonds is R&B
if im not wrong that means her R&B numbers out weigh her Pop record right?
furthermore Rihanna is a versatile artist her voice transcends the barriers of Genres hence the reason it may become problematic for one to confine her or to label her music
all these people crying about diamonds being #1 on the R&B charts
give no f**** to R&B artist and the record sales prove it!!!
Bey put out a R&B album instead of going pop and it was her worst album not saying DIL wasn’t R&B
but the point is these people do not support R&B acts so there complaining and bitching is contrived and irrelevant as f***
Sam Keep saying Rihanna skin is the only reason why she is considered R&B and thats a f****** lie
people who genuinely understand the genre know that most of her music is R&B and that’s why she will continue to have R&B nominations and awards at award shows
its sad that people always try to make it harder for black people to achieve!
rihanna did what any smart person would do branch out to evolve and grow so she wouldn’t had found herself in the predicament that artist such as
Keysha Cole, keri Hilson and Ciara find themselves…… the aforementioned artist were all hot R&B artist at one point but because they were not able to evolve and change with the tides the became lost and displaced
People can say nicki minaj is a sell out and what not,
but when you look at from the point of whats current and longevity
for her career songs like Starships and Superbass were needed to ensure that nicki stayed commercially viable
I agree with you completely on all her albums the music is mainly R&B/Urban.
the only songs on Unapologetic which is pure pop is Right Now the rest all have some kind of urban grounding,
TTT really only WFL, WHYB and Drunk On Love,
even on LOUD it’s just Only Girl, Complicated and S&M
and these are considered her more pop albums when all her albums before that were pure R&B/Urban.
I Am…Sasha Fierce if anything is more pop than any of Rihanna’s albums..
If I Were A Boy, Halo, Radio, Sweet Dreams, Disappear and Satellites are all pure pop.
exactly!!!!
people reach the point where good music is good music
and putting it in a box is irrelevant these days
everything in life has its season
in the 90 and early 2000 it was all about R&B and soul music
i grew up hearing my parents listen to celine whitney and the other greats who sand R&B
but its new time we cant lament on the past and hope that these batch of entertainers can recreate that because it will NEVER HAPPEN
POP music and few rap songs is where it as at the moment ….. we just got to understand it
Rock songs were really hot as well in the early 2000 but rockstars have seen there commercial appeal go with the wind
but what people don’t realize is pop isn’t even really a genre pop is just short for POPULAR!!!
exactly becuase Rihanna is a POP star being popular
she cand be R&B
Because R&B is only for flops apparently?
i’m f****** dying!
Billboards is THE MUSIC AUTHORITY
and if they say that Diamonds Is R&B
whoooo the f*** Cares How you Haters Feel?
All i see is sings all i see is $$$$ signs – Pour it Up
It’s urban but not r&b .
but rihanna only had 2 #1 on the rnb chjart. diamonds is a pop song. just becaus eit “urban” does not make it rnb. christina aguilera has “urban” songs, but they are not rnb, britney’s in the one album urban… o and just bieber is totally rnb bc he raps and just timberlake is rnb as well.
enjoy your record mary. one week left
I Wonder how long RIHANNA , MARY and others
are going to last after the Artist Who has STAKED HER CLAIM on all of the charts and everything else in the Entertainment Industry for the ENTIRE YEAR OF 2013
DROPPS THEIR MUSIC, JUST SAYING,,,,
PERHAPS WE IN THE NAVY WILL ENJOY WHILE WE CAN BECAUSE ITS BY, BY CHARTS WHEN MS BEYONCE’S MUSIC DROPS,,,ROTF,,,LARAO,,,,
oh I thought u only stan for Rihanna and put no one else above her…surprising, but nice to see u admit that she isn’t, indeed, the Queen!
i just find it funny how rihanna stans were saying that the rnb chart meant nothing, but now that she is #1 on it, it is a big as deal.
I’ve come to realize diamonds is an modern R&B song….. the urban audience loves diamonds….Congratulations Rihanna snatch the title from MJB like it nobody’s business…
just because the urban audience loves diamonds, doesn’t make it an R&B song
ohh wow. that debate again? what do i say today? ehh no. i wanna skip. but hell you know this is not about r’n’b as music. right? bb’s black and white categories. i see a gray glop. 😉
but good for her gettin’ another record broken.
@JOKER WELL STATED!!
ya’ll m************ acting like rihanna created the rules on the billboard R&B charts… get the f*** over it!! rihanna is a superstar and knows how to make good music… im not the biggest fan of rihanna but i do give credit where its due!! everytime she puts out an album she is sure to have at least a couple of hits… keep doing your thing rihanna!! much love!
@VANNY,,,,LMRAO,,,,,I HEARD ALL OF THAT!!!LOOOOL.
YALL mutha fuckas wanna complain when YALL don’t even support your real r&b artists so GTFOH with that B.S.
AMEN!! *stands up and gives round of applause*
lol like how can people complain when their doing nothing to help the cause….Smh I can’t gworl,
I agree with you @MONSTAREBEL, the reason R&B is dying is because so called “Fans” don’t buy the music even though they claim they love their favorite R&B artist. Hell I LOVE MJB but lately her albums are not hittin Platinum like they used back in the day. Her last two albums went gold, which is not bad but Im just pointing out the fact that her albums used to sell multi-platinum/platinum and now they don’t cause R&B fans don’t support. But I Think Diamonds is a really nice song so congrats to Rih.
The only reason they are bytching and bloowing smoke
out their Asses is because they want RIHANNA’S ass out of that top spot because their is another name that starts with a B,,,WHO THEY WANT IN RIHANNA’S SPOT,,,,LOOOOOOL,,,,
@Lax If Diamonds was a Beyoncé song, people would be calling it R&B.
Exactly, they rather support Drake, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne.
So many haters
yep! so many haters and so little time!! smh…
rih’s single hanging in there for this
length of time is a big problem for
Rih’s haters, as always.
so many haters, and then love takes over.
Also…
I am in NO WAY comparing these two artists together as one is an IRREPUTABLE LEGEND and the other still has another five years to hail herself as credible (although I enjoy them both:
The R’n’B and Urban community can be SO F****** HYPOCRITICAL!!!
They’re doing the same thing to Rihanna that they.eid to Whitney Houston. In the 1980’s, Whitney had become so popular with pop audiences that they backlashed against Whitney and refused to call her a R’n’B artist. When the Whitney album came out, the R’n’B community at point refused to buy her records.
Is it Whitney’s fault that Whitney had such a versatile voice that she could fit into any genre? And not just have the usual Gospel-inflected R’n’B voice?
Rihanna is a versatile artist, her voice can fit into anything. But she is FUNDENTALLY a R’n’B artist.
@COLE You are on it and telling the truth and I
do remember, thank goodness for the reads
we do need them its about time for some Positivity,
toward Rihanna because it’s hate that seem to always come Rihanna’s way on this site and this post is posted becaause
that grape is pissed and so or rihanna’s haters and this post is to try and make it seem that Rihanna is doing something that is not suppose to be known, when Billboard is running things just as they alway has.
Sad days for R&B…. It is so not fair. Nobody has to be blamed other than Billboard.
And yet, Mary J. still has the best selling R&B LP of 2012.
20 years after her debut ! Now that’s a queen.
Nobody’s is saying that Mary isn’t great it’s just Loosers who are pressed because Rihanna is in the lead, that’s all.
That’s unfortunate..
Unfortunate for you and a Welcome Mat for Me,,,
Girl let this have been Halo or If I were a boy….TGJ would be praising bey…Smh
SAM IS SO BIASED I like Both Beyoncé and Rihanna they’re both dope in my opinion so Idk why Sam trys to diss Rih in the stupidest ways.
check when bey’s new single drops and tops the rnb chart based on its sales alone i bet sam will be praising her, for yet another #1
I still think it’s crazy that this song is #1 on the R&B charts based on POP airplay and sales. Thats flat out retarded.
U R DUNCE….. SALES OF A SINGLE IS NOT RECORDED BY GENRE U IGNORANT ASSHOLE
SO WHEN SOMEONE BUYS DIAMONDS OFF ITUNES… THEY ART ASKED BY APPLE
IS THIS A POP PURCHASE OR A R&B PURCHASE
ITS A F****** RIHANNA DIAMONDS PURCHASE
THE POP AIRPLAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE R&B CHARTS
THE ONLY TIME POP AND R&B AIRPLAY CROSS PATHS IS ON THE BBHOT100!
” U R DUNCE…..” and “THEY ART ASKED BY APPLE”? How are you going to call someone a “dunce” when you can’t even spell the words “are” or “you”correctly?
Actually Billboard changed the rules so yes AirPlay on a top 40 station that generally plays pop does now affect the singles placement on genre charts. That’s why after they made the rule change, Diamonds went from like 60 to #1 on the RnB charts with little to no play on R&B radio stations.
Also every station has different sized audiences, so even if Diamonds is played on some R&B stations, it won’t be as impactful on the placement of the song as much as a top 40/pop station, which usually have a much bigger market. They are weighed differently. So more spins in bigger markets vs smaller makes a huge difference.
Prior to the change a song could be played to death on an urban station and go NOWHERE on the hot 100. That hasn’t changed but now a “pop” song from a “urban” artist can dominate genre charts. I feel bad for artist more pure in the genre but that’s the way the games played.
SAD DAY FOR MUSIC
WHAT BEYONCE RELEASED HER NEW SINGLE?
KIIIIII
THAT DAMN BADDIE BEY 😀
A POP song tops a R&B and you c**** don’t find anything wrong with it? What next Rihanna Tops whitney houston & mariah for Greatest voice of all time? This is the biggest fuckery ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rih is black so she should chart on the RnB b**** is is a island rat
OOOP A ISLAND RAT KEEPING YOU PRESSED POOR DAT
IF IM NOT WRONG BOB MARLEY IS FROM AN ISLAND AND HIS ALBUM IS CERTIFIED DIAMOND IN THE U.S
POOR PRESSED C*** A KESHA STAN CALLING SOMEONE A RAT OOOPS!
THAT ISLAND BEING JAMAICA A CARRIBEAN ISLAND SUCH AS BARBADOS
ITS MUST BE SAD WHEN A ISLANDER BESTS THE EFFORT OF AN AMERICAN LIKE KESHA WHO IS CERTIFIED TIN WITH SALES OF 100 K AFTER SEVERLA WEEKS !!! LOL IM DYING
No we don’t find a dam thing wrong, nada,,,
i dont mind Rihanna but let’s be real, Diamonds is not r&b.
Today’s world of social networking and itunes has allowed mediocre songs to snatch wigs from amazing classics!
if you dont believe me go ask katy perry!
Diamonds is sitting pretty for the moment
and that’s what happening.
Mediocre task is a big part of what Makes this World Go around.
In response to Cole- like POP music doesn’t have weak lyrics? Please. The synth and production surrounding “Diamonds” is cute but the best lyrically? Let’s not. R&b is tanking simply because no one is interested and other corny euro music is getting shoved down our throats. I’ve heard some good r&b songs by new artist who still promote well but they just don’t get that awesome buzz like Rihanna or Beyonce.
Doesn’t matter if its rihanna or not, it shouldn’t be number one on this chart . Diamonds is not R&B . AT ALL . And that’s the truth whether her Stan’s like It or not .and are y’all usually saying this chart doesn’t matter ? Anyway it’s only there because of the New Rules of that chart . If this was a year ago it wouldn’t be there .
-waits for Rihanna Stans to call me pressed/ tell me to have a stadium of seats –
Is Look at me now, by Chris Brown Rap? On the billboard chart last year it top hot 100, played on Pop radios and was #1 on R & B/hip hop chart. My point is some songs are able to cross over to all genres. Look at me now was played on all station in my city.
And I understand that . Diamonds isn’t one of those songs . Look at me now had two rappers in it , and it was most defiantly urban . Bad example .
LAMN would technically have fallen in the R&B/Hip Hop catergory without in formm of manipulation, as it represented the merging of the two genres in a way I think Billboard invisioned this catergory/chart as being. It was truly a unigue song that had a mass appeal on many charts Pop, Rap,R&B/Hip Hop, Dance etc. Diamonds is not that type of record though it is a good song.
**I’m more destrested about SCREAM by Will I Am and Britney Spears being on the R&B chart than I am Diamonds to be honest! WTF? 0_o
KINGBEY LOOOOOOL!!
If more R&B artists would actually sing r&b, they might have the power and the voice to band together and petition Billboard about the foolish way in which now categorizes songs.
Hold up!
I thought the RnB charts didn’t matter to this dumbass fanbase but now they’re over here celebrating this?
Have some seats all the way in the back of a bus. Riherpes can have her #1 on the RnB chart. Mary J will always be the reigning queen of RnB.
PREACH !!!!!
Oh stfu i bet if man gaga was on the rap charts with that wack ass cake song you would be good!! _/
RIHANNA IS WINNING FOR NOW AND I LOVE IT,,,
Wait a minute… Mary is the Queen of Hip hop soul not R&B.
Billboard really messed up the r&b charts. It’s not even worth following now.
Note: Billboard did the same thing to the country charts.
On Billboard, only the Hot 100, Album 200, single airplay, and single download charts continue to have any real value.
Love Billboard’s Mess Ups.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN:
The beginning of the end of R&B – phase one of its destruction – occured when it was shoved in a R&B/Hip Hop caterory. WTF does Hip Hop have to do with R&B? And why is there a seperate caterogy entiteld RAP? HIP HOP & RAP have much more in common than does R&B and HIP HOP.
I’m sorry this is a f****** disgrace……..Are you serious Rihanna R&B…..diamonds not even one lick of R&B and anybody can sing that b******* song Diamonds…Plain and simple rihanna Can’t even sing songs by geat legends like Whintey Houston Always love you and i bet you she can’t even sing “be without you” This is a Joke!!!!!!
“Be Without you” = GREAT SONG!
Ahh the days when RnB was still relevant on BB100.
A DISCRACE ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK,,,,,
YALL h*** need to go protest against billboard if YALL have such a problem with this or actually go buy ciara brandy & Keyshia Coles songs & STFU!!!!
The Point is….Rihanna Is not R&B….. so your trying to say rihanna is better and can sing better than Whitney houston and mary j blige???
@MONSTAREBEL NO THEY WANT PROTEST JUST LIKE THEY WAS KISSING BILLBOARD’S ASSES WHEN THAT MILLIUM AWARD WAS COOKED UP AND GIVEN ALL THE PROTESTING THEIR ASSES WAS DOING WAS RUBBING
IT IN THE FACES OF ALL THE OTHER FANS CLUB,,,,MAKING FUN AT THE OTHER FAN CLUBS FOR THEIR FAVE NOT BEING NOMINATED,,,,,FOR THE
MILLIUM AWARD,,,AND I NOTICE THAT BILLBOARD HASN’T GIVEN THAT AWARD BUT ONCE….
b****** stay PRESSED… i call em a SPACE BARRR LOOOL!
sad b****** unite!
HATERS KEEP RIGHT ON DOING WHAT YOU DO BEST
IT LOOKS GOOD ON YA.
I cannot believe this s***. I’m not even hating on Rihanna, but DIAMONDS is in no way an R&B song. I can’t even believe her fan base are proud of this. This goes to show the direction music is heading. DOWN.
Have you ever heard of songs crossing over to other genres because its so well received by everyone. Diamonds is cross over song.
@Zania, Um no. In order for a song to have cross over appeal, it must contain elements or sounds (etc.) from each of the genres it is trying to appeal to. Now, Rihanna has previously made other cross over pop songs in the past that actually had R&B and hip hop (etc.) influences on it, so it was understandable for why it might have charted under those genres. However, this specific pop song has no other genre influences. It’s just a simple pop song( even written by a pop artist) therefore there was no reason for why it should have charted under the R&B genre.
DIAMONDS CAN BE WHAT EVER BILLBOARD SAY IT IS.
@Touche , the reason it is charting there because I hear it on my R & B radio station. Take your argument up with the hip hop station.
“the reason it is charting there because I hear it on my R & B radio station”? That still doesn’t make it an R&B song, nice try though. Also, why would I waste my time taking my argument up with hip hop stations when it’s not even their fault? The problem are these music companies incorrectly categorizing songs.
Am I the only one hyped over this years album releases? This year, music will finally take a turn just as Timberland said it does every few years or so. And I can’t wait! This Pop “same beat with different lyrics” s*** needs a rest. The list :
Beyonce
Aaliyah’s Posthumous Album (Not confirmed)
Mariah Carey
Celine Dion
Britney Spears
Lady Gaga
Katy Perry
Adele
Destiny’s Child
Misha B
Keri Hilson
Kelly Rowland
Ciara
Ashanti
Azealia Banks
Nicki Minaj: The Pinkprint ( lmfao)
Kanye
Eminem
Asap Rocky
50 Cent
J.Cole
LL Cool J (lmao)
Justin Timberlake
Akon
Kid Cudi
Darius Rucker
Tim McGraw
Is there anyone else releasing an album in 2013?
Chris Brown
I love me some Breezy but I hope he takes 2013 off and just tour the world. His fans everywhere are so anxious to see him after he teased us with the 1st leg of the Carpe Diem Tour. Unless it’s the last CD in his contract with RCA grandfathered in from JIVE Records and he is looking ot move away from RCA quickly then okay. If that’s not the case I say wait on releasing a new CD! The agenda to try and take him down is still in full effect. So, I’m gonna need Breezy to be easy and just tour the world having fun!! I’m still bugging over the way he shut the largest mall in the southern hemisphere completely down! 🙂
Cher, TLC,Solange,Eve, Rita,,,,Tamara Braxton, Fantasia,
And the chick from Diddy’s Dirty Money.
rihanna on november
Congrats to Rih!
IDGAF, I don’t use R&B charts since the day Billboard changed the rules. I’m checking for R&B AIRPLAY instead.
I’m much smarter than convincing myself that “Diamonds” beats “Love on Top”, “Party” or even “Dance for You” at appeal for urban/Black listeners when it was barely played on their radios.
So….. Good to the f****** Bye.
why you so pressed boo?
Awww are you mad that DIAMONDS slayed every single from 4?
Actually I live near a big city and they play all Rihanna songs on our major R & B hip radio station.
Diamond did beat them that is why its sitting perched at
the top until some one out sell it.
but rih is dominating airplay too?
i actually dont get why people are so mad when the original chart is still there. the rnb airplay chart
POUR IT UP is definately R&B and DIAMONDS is definately pop…. Most R&B fans dont listen to ish like DIAMONDS…. glad she went to hot 100 with it but it is not r&B…. ‘
AS long as the GRAMMYS dont classify it as R&B i’m good… they bet not
And if they do b**** what are you gonna do?
Then the Grammys will continue to lose more credibility and will eventually become a completely joke. In fact, people might even protest against it for the misrepresentation of different genres.
I’m not trying to tear down Rihanna, but I just find this completely disgusting. The last 2 years have been a joke! The song is not an R&B track. The industry is screwed and so are the charts. Everyone is breaking records these days with .99 albums, .79 cent singles, album re-releases that contain new tracks, albums sales that include touring ticket sales (bundles), video views, etc … It’s been 2 years in this decade and it’s a complete mess. The charts are going to end up being so irrelevant by 2020!
http://www.thepagewithroyalkev.com
this artists have to make a living somehow, it was all well in the 90s when ppl actually bought albums now this artists literally have to scrape up every last sale they can get.
Do people actually care about the RnB charts nowadays?? They seem so irrelevant, like a BET award.
This means nothing. It has been thanks to the recent Billboard changes (and these changes don´t make sense at all)
That song by Mary J. would have been on top for like 30 weeks with the new rules. When Diamonds breaks this irrelevant “record” then there will be other pop songs breaking Diamonds record, cos it has changed, it´s not cos Rihanna is oh-so great or successful
actually they make complete sense just the classification of was is rnb and what isnt is a lil milky.
the chart wants to reflect the biggest rnb song out at that point in time and by the biggest, i mean in terms of airplay(not just by urban radios but all radio stations) and sales
cause lets face it an airplay only chart is a lil bias no? what about that white artist who has an rnb song out that is selling pretty well and getting plenty of pop airplay but urban stations just wont touch it?
Can Rihanna even sing a Mary J Blige song??? Lawd the nerve.
F%ck Billboard, anyway. They should go back to calling it the “Black Charts” and leave R’n’B all the way alone.
I highly suggest that no R’n’B singer – or even more, no Black singer – shows at the next Billboard Music Awards as a protest. This is going too far.
Rihanna songs are played a whole lot on the top R & B radio station. On Friday and Sat, they are alreadying running Pour it up. Love that song. Yes during the week they play Diamonds, its not just Pop station.
never gone happen they need billboard more then billboard needs them especially as billboard has all the pop acts on its side. why are people so pressed the country chart is going through the same thing. the pop chart(hot100) has been this way for years
you’re right about!
if it was a RNB track #1 on Billboard Country top,white people would protest! it’s a shame that black are leaving their music genre get OWNED by white music genre!
Even though i love Rih RIh this is just More proof that R&B is dead as a door nail.
En nobody checkin for that!! We all know thats NOT LEGIT!! Please
*RELOAD**
Now reading the “byeaww byeaww” replies to my very own comment of truth, only to find this snail called “I Love Rihanna” saying I’m pressed at her fave’s singles.
FORGETTING that when my fave’s second group album was certified 8x Platinum in the US, Robyn was still in Barbados with her father on the street cleaning shoes. And also forgetting that her fave hasn’t sold worldwide what my fave sold in the states alone, even after releasing kool 1.600.000 albums per second.
Gurl I like Rihanna, don’t let me go HAM on you and HERR now, okay?
loool ohh wow group sales…. thats so awsome loool i f****** cant ….
we tlking bout you faves solo career poor you
look f** we talking SOLO ARTIST!!! RIHANNA WAS NEVER IN A GROUP!! SHE DIDN’T NEED ONE!! BEYONCE CANT COUNT DC IN HER RECORDS SALES JUST LIKE MJ DIDNT COUNT JACKSON 5 WITH HIS SALES!!! DIAMONDS IS GONNA BREAK A RECORD!! JUST LIKE WFL BROKE IRREPLACEABLE’S RECORD!!! IJS!! YOU GETTING MAD AT RIH CUS SHE IS MAKING HISTORIH! DONT GET MAD BUY YOUR FAVES ALBUMS!! IF THE HIVES DIDNT TALK S*** ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES FAVES MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD BUY MORE OF BEYS ALBUMS AND SINGLES
Well in the game of making ends meet in the music realm of things
there a lot of thing that might displease all of us but hey what can we do about it, nothing so let Rih’s Navy “CHEERS” BECAUSE ITS LONG AND IN BETWEEN BEFORE WE CAN GET THE CHANCE TO CELEBRATE AND ALL SINCE MANY SAY THAT Rihanna Isn’t Deserving even though her songs do amazing things like Diamonds is doing, until the next best thing,,,Diamonds is Iconic in its name first and far most then it makes Rihanna 12 Hit and they say its better by the dozen, Stay
PRESSED, AND LETRrIHANNA NAVY HAVE SOME FUN,,,,
SINCE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY WHO WANTS THIS SMILE WIPED OFF OUR FACES,,,RIGHT HATERS,,,,
As a fan of ‘true R&B’ music, this chart feat makes me really upset. “Diamonds” is not an R&B song, it’s POP! I wish Billboard would’ve kept it only based on airplay from Hip-Hop/R&B stations because I feel like airplay is based more off of longevity, rather than Itunes sales that are based more off of ‘flavor of the moment.’
So we’re gonna compare the sales of 6-7 albums to the sales of 4 solo?
And the difference is barely 1 mi copies worldwide!
KIIII Yess @FreshNavi you better expose your fave’s flop status!
6-7 albums vs. 4 albums, I’m not allowed to use any DC albums , ( even though that tea is brought to you by Billboard.com, an official charts company ) , or even any DVD sales??
I mean, what kind of fairness, Rihanna stans?!! What kind of fairness??
Again, Good to the f****** Bye.
SHUT UP YOUR HATE AND SHADE ON A TINY BLOG WONT STOP RIHANNA FROM MAKING HISTORY AND IT WONT STOP US NAVY MEMBERS FROM BUYING HER S***! NOW I LIKE BEY AND I THOUGHT THAT 4 WAS OK BUT YOU CANT GET MAD BECAUSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE LIKE RIHANNA OVER YOUR FAVE. I WAS A BEY STAN IN 03 BUT RIHANNA WON ME OVER! I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT DONT GET MAD BECAUSE OTHERS HAVE THEIR OWN AS WELL!
“I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT DONT GET MAD BECAUSE OTHERS HAVE THEIR OWN AS WELL!”? Right, because all your previous verbal attacks prove that you aren’t mad with other people’s opinions lol. Let me refresh your memory: “Oh stfu i bet if man gaga was on the rap charts with that wack ass cake song you would be good!! _/” That was your verbal attack to F****** Hairy (Lana & Gaga schoolin’ you) in case you still didn’t realize what a hypocrite you are.
Music is dead. smh
This is B.s , but I thought the Navy said no one is checking for RnB oh the irony with these Kids.
Not Rihanna fault , but this is B.s, nothing about diamonds is RnB
Agreed.
Ohhh @iloverihanna is pressed in f****** deed.
Hun, don’t believe me, just see this :
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/record-labels/avril-lavigne-chad-kroeger-jay-z-beyonce-1007879952.story
FROM BILLBOARD.COM, Beyonce has sold 30.1 million albums in the states alone.
They counted her solo albums WITH her group albums.
Are we gonna dispute BILLBOARD’s tea now?
And if you want my 2 cents, BILLBOARD did the right thing, because:
BEYONCE = 96% Destiny’s Child.
Go listen to their songs and read about them and you’ll know why.
Now I am leaving this thread, chaawwww
**Blasts the most played song on urban radios in years, by the true Queen of R&B***
“BABY you ALLL I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDdd”
B*******. And did i really read someone saying pop is not genre!? Just because its eclectic does not mean it is not is not a genre.
OH F** I KNOW IT HURTS THAT MY FAVE HAS SLAUGHTERED YOUR COW FAVE WITH HER SINGLES AND ALBUM SALES!!! YOU TOO CAN GO TO BILLBOARD.COM AND LET THEM SHOW YOU THAT RIHANNA IS NOW AT 41 MILLION ALBUMS SOLD WORLDWIDE AND 146 MILLION SINGLES SOLD WORLDWIDE!! IM NO MORE PRESSED THAN YOU ARE!!! RIHANNA IS THE QUEEN OF BILLBOARD!!
so now Rihanna has sold over 41 million albums….oh the irony .
B**** please Rihanna is at 25 million at most with 7 albums LOL Her numbers are truly average. And her USA sales after 7 albums? Does she even reach 10 million albums? LMAO
b**** billboard mtv vouge and now def jam has confirmed 41 million and 146 million singles you cant shade on her success id belive the credible sources than d*** sucking f*** on a blog
This Bs Mary j Brandy Monica Melanie Fiona;Elle Varner, Keyshia Cole song will never be on a pop charts list.why rihanna on RnB charts list. Her songs are pop i dont care what anyone say billboard think cause she black she RnB
They need to stop. This is some Pop music.
Diamonds isnt a R&B song but its not RiRi fault. blame billboard
Than why are they playing that song on the R & B radio station if the song isn’t a cross over song. Don’t blame billboard, blame the Hip Hop stations for playing the song.
I agree! I loath and detest Billboard and the POWERS THE BE who are in control of it all!As I have stated, I like Diamonds the song & video, I think it is more of a Pop hit than a R&B one. I must add, I do think it’s kind of funny that some of her fans who constantly shunned the R&B Charts as being reflective of nothing important, are now cheering for this accomplishment! ……..I’m just saying LOL 🙂
What a misrepresentation of the genre!And no I’m not hating because nothing about that song is R&B so deal.
100% REAL.
You haters better be thanking Rihanna for making the R&B charts relevant.
I wouldnt call Mary J Blige consistent in any sense of the word. She has a good album every 2 albums if that and her hits are random and far between. Not to mention her creativity and vocals are completely all over the place.
Um shut up, Mary never realy had a bad album and she’s a very consistent artist. You clearly don’t know what’s realy good in life and music.
Mary J Blige never had a bad album? Girlmotherfuckingbyex70000
LAWT THE DELUSIONS!
No delusion, just being real. STFU
Another day, another record taken from a legend by Rihanna. Madonna you’re next on the pop charts. Mariah you have a few more years before Rih have over 18 #1’s.
To all the pressed souls who are hurt about Rihanna’s record on the R&B charts so far, please set up an Itunes/Amazon/etc account and PURCHASE some “authentic” R&B songs instead of bitching about it and downloading illegally. Or just face the fact that the R in R&B stands for Rihanna. 🙂
Okay, I like Diamonds but an R&B record holder……NO, I don’t think so. I could see Stay which is a R&B track IMO. Anywho,I havediscussed the fixed, rigged, limitedy ownd and heavly controlled music-media monopoly. It is what we have allowed it to be. Similar to the Patriot Act and the complete control of your person information by the US government. We allowed it, so it is SO…………………
Listen, anything is possible with the POWERS THE BE in control. Hell when Ke$ha is on the cover of VIBE MAGAZINE and Indie artists Frank Ocean is considered the NEW KANG OF R&B! I mean….WTF?? 0_O
Girl good to the f****** BYE.
If you haven’t heard of it yet, DEF JAM already swallowed their own p*** and certified Rihanna a “100 NOT 185 million units plaque”, and it was reported that includes only 25 million albums.
And if you believe the numbers Def Jam released BEFORE the plaque, why not believe PEPSI saying BEYONCE has sold 100 million ALBUMS worldwide?
B**** don’t you even TRY me. Just go listen to your fav’s 66% FLOP albums and congratulate the artists with huge #ACHIEVEMENTS.
YOUR SHADE CANT OUTSHINE RIHANNA AND HER REIGN F**!!
Rihanna can’t break any record when the song is not rnb.
She can and she will and you will deal!!
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