They may earn millions from lucrative publishing arrangements every quarter, but Drake, Beyonce and Nicki Minaj have seen their credentials as songwriters thrown into disrepute by Shi Wisdom, the writer behind Rita Ora‘s hit single ‘R.I.P.’
Faced with claims that she wasn’t paid for time she spent serving as Drake‘s “ghostwriter“, the wordsmith used ‘Noisey‘ to share her side of the story, lifting the veil on a machine more dependant on shadow writers than the acts they’re employed by would care to admit.
Why Minaj‘s alleged jab at Iggy Azalea‘s lyrical skill may have been a tad hypocritical if Shi is right?
Her claims below…
Excerpts from her recent interview with ‘Noisey‘ reveal:
When you go into these meetings with these labels they tell you who is looking for songs, and it’s a bunch of people who you thought wrote their own songs. Females do have a hard time in the industry, but I am not going to use the fact that I am a female as a crutch. Songwriters period have a hard time in this industry, especially when you’re a ghostwriter. When you realize how small you are in this industry it’s crazy. And when you’re this small in the industry and you’re a woman then you’re kind of a little bit smaller.
To be honest with you, who cares Drake doesn’t write his own stuff? It’s very evident that he’s an intelligent business person. Who in this industry writes their stuff all the time? I don’t know anybody who writes their stuff all the time that is a big artist, not one person.
There’s a lot of ghostwriters out there, and there’s a lot of people who are not ghostwriters. You don’t see them, you don’t hear them, they don’t exist to the audience because, like I said, there’s this illusion that all these artists write their own stuff. There is a whole machine behind everybody. All these artists have several people keeping them there. Everybody has writers, everybody has a team of people to put it together. Some of these people do write some of their songs, but do you really believe that Nicki Minaj writes all of her songs, with no help? To be a songwriter on a song all you have to do is contribute one word. By the time the “R.I.P.” record I did with Drake was finished, six writers including myself and him touched that song. That wasn’t the plan, but that’s what happens: Somebody comes in and says, “instead of saying ‘boy’ say ‘you.’” Now they’re a writer on the song, but that’s access. For the longest time Beyoncé didn’t write any of her records. I personally still don’t believe she’s written any of her records.
I pretty sure Beyonce probably didn’t write her verse, but Nicki wrote her own verse.
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Nicki writes her music unlike Trashyonce.
Aren’t u still in a depression from ArFLOP after Bey came and slayed the gimmuck out of yo whole life? Go crawl BACK in the hole u finally reemerged from and take yo antidepressant pills and talk to a pychiatrist BIITCH
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Sorry but S. Samuels is listed on almost every song as a writer on PFRR. bloop!
Ok so I read the whole thing and what exactly is she trying to say. We known for years that all you have to do is change a word or phrase to get writing credits, it’s called Business (one in which Beyonce plays well) and I’m not mad at it. Most of Nickis singles have different writers but I am sure Nicki actually contributed more than a word or phrase. This person is salty cause she wasn’t paid now she wants to call others out bit she needs to try to call out Iggy who claims she wrote her verses for fancy and Charlie xcx wrote the chorus but TI got a writing credit.
Nicki writes her all her raps. Obviously those who compose the music, write the hooks, do the production etc will get writing credits too. Beyonce always credits the writers and producers she works with, and they have always defended her contribution.
Nicki dont write shyt. That hypocritic kii!!
Barbs r seethn aince the TRUTH is out kii!!
thank you @please did Nicki ever say she didn’t have help ? thats called a co-writer not a ghostwriter dumbass… most songs have more than one writer
ghostwiter is when you dont even write YOUR part..
someone tried to say nicki was lying bc of “baby got back” on twitter ROFL.. the haters are pressed
You just said:
“We known for years that all you have to do is change a word or phrase to get writing credits”
But then said what you did about Iggy and TI.
How do you not know TI contributed a word or phrase?
Because Iggy said she wrote the versus and Charlie XCX wrote the choruses. The point was that iggy claims she wrote her own versuses but no one questioned why TI got a writing credit but constantly come for Nicki, Beyonce etc.
Slimfast
I get you now!
Skyfall you better #PREACHHH!!!!
Duh they all do it some more than others cough “Beyonce” that’s why they called it a music “business” that’s all folks.
Drake ghostwriter? Lmfao bye. Anyone with ears knows that drake’s redundant ass pens his own s***. Even when he writes for other artists.
B****** tryna get a come up by talking s*** about those on top. She has neither worked with nor met Nicki or Beyonce, so she has no basis to make such statements. And how is she a ghostwriter when she is credited on R.I.P?
U the dumbest biitch walkn the planet. Kill yoself ho
I actually believe Minaj really does write her own stuff she raps about some straight up dumb Shlt with her non clever a*** for only the plastics would called genus! lol
Chew on yo greasy FAT grandmammys dingy panties
Why you gotta hate on a real b**** Gma Bey?
I don’t get why people are so reluctant to believe Beyonce can’t string a couple words together for a verse or a hook, she’s been in the game almost 20 years, I’m pretty sure it’s imbedded in her to an extent. And no shade, but is it really that hard to repeat drunk in love over a chorus… Give her some credit!
Every single writer or producer she has worked with has defended her contribution. Be it writing her own verses (e.g. Drunk in Love), doing her own arrangements, or composing the music or co-producing. But her haters have nothing to come at her with so it’s always this same tired ass talk.
Except Ne Yo who called her out over irreplaceable and never worked with her, Rihanna or any Roc Nation artists again. I’ll go as far to say that he never really worked again period.
Neyo definitely worked with her for 4, cause I remember him blabbing about it before the album was done, but whatever they did didn’t make the album. I think they also did something for Selftitled, but that didn’t make it either…
HE has cleared up that mess several times, Bey wrote the music for her version of Irreplaceable, which is why she is credited. She may have gotten carried away at a concert, but before and after that she always said he wrote the song. The end.
FYI, he wrote Right Now on Unapologetic and many others. He aint out of a job
Because the have nothing else to use to come for her. It’s either this or that she faked her pregnancy. lol It’s hilarious
thief beyonce did not write any of her albums she is a known liar who also tried to steal Neyo’s credit. Copycat thiefyonce steals other artists creative images for her videos..and do not compensate them. thief b.itch dupes her stupid fans in thinking she sings live. insiders in the industry know the truth about this con artist
Of course we all know Beyonce doesn’t write anything.
Beyonce freestyling Partition > All this baseless talk by mongrels who have never even worked with her.
What kind of stupidity? You don’t have to work to someone to know how they work. Beyonce is a not writer and the fact you believe she is says so much about how intelligent you are.
What this girl needs to explain is why Iggy says Charli wrote the hook for Fancy and she wrote the verses when ANYONE who has eyes can see that TI is credited as one of the writers. Which part did he write boo?
You are not in the studio when songwriting commences,so have a seat >>>_/
@No What kind of stupidity? You don’t have to work to someone to know how they work. Beyonce is a not writer and the fact you believe she is says so much about how intelligent you are.
What this girl needs to explain is why Iggy says Charli wrote the hook for Fancy and she wrote the verses when ANYONE who has eyes can see that TI is credited as one of the writers. Which part did he write boo?
Biitxh go have VISIONSOFMIMI making that FLOP marriage work. Kii
Pressed their ghost writing end up in flop songs given to fake Rihanna
“For the longest time Beyoncé didn’t write any of her records” Bittch are you with Mrs Carter when she writes her song’s???
So all those lawsuits filed against her for copyright infringement were filed for fun right? Just accept that Beyonce isn’t a real song writer.
Death
which lawsuits? lol and which one did she lose?…. girl…. people come at singers all the time tryna make a quick buck, claiming they were stolen from. From Michael to Mariah to Madonna to Beyonce.
Do you even know the process of songwriting? You might wanna sit this one out.
But are you? You speak up with such confidence
See! Mariah wouldn’t have this problem! 🙂
Mariah has actually been sued a couple of times for allegedly stealing songs. Hero was one of them
That was proven in court that she started writing the song before the person who claimed it was their poem even wrote his poem, he was just looking for a coin. Because he sued her too more times for the same song but it was dismissed both times.
“I don’t know why people are so reluctant to believe Beyonce can write.”
https ://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/Opinions/pub/06/06-20934-CV0.wpd.pdf
Read that and ask yourself if someone would go to that much effort for no reason.
Biitch stop trolling and reveal who you stan for.
B**** go help Beyonce write a complete sentence.
Biitch stop hiding from arFLOP
NO U GO HELP FAGGPOP GO PLATINUM IN THE US AND NOT GET OUTSOLD BY MILKY CYRUS…D AUDACITY U HAVE TO COME FOR BEY, WHEN UR FAVES CAREER HAS GONE DOWN THE DRAIN FASTER THAN USAIN BOLT 100M RACING WORLD RECORD..THE AUDACITY THO….LOL
Beyonce does steal songs though. It’s not good but I’ve been stanning long enough to know this.
the most honest hive member
Eat me
How is “FAGGPOP” DOING????
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@QueenCeline
She sounds bitter, but telling the truth. Most artist don’t write and most that claims they write, don’t. It’s not like how it was just 20 years ago when the most that would write on a song woukd be two. Now it’s 5 to 8 and the lyrics are even more basic. I don’t have an issue with artists that doesn’t write, I have a problem with the ones that take the credit and added nothing.
MESS at Nicki and Drake!!!.. But we all know T********* can’t write for sh!t..
Beyonce and Rihanna are the biggest writing frauds
Right??? That’s why uneducated gays make up 99.9% of their stanbase
While caca stil remains a wahed up flop?????
No one is even checking for her tour…But like damn
how can u go frm doing s*** that matters to now
fighting to stay relevant with keisha colesore….#FALLFROMGRACEINDEED
Nicki and Drakeshia never wrote a complete sentenxe in a song honey
_/ _/ choose one and sit your stank asss bish
Pussyhole, ass hole, dickhole…choose one ans eat or suck it cocksucka
Thank god Lana actually writes her own music.
Who????
And YESSS at the H.IV+ finally agreeing that T********* is a thief ^
So I guess Beyoncé’s ASCAP songwriter award was for nothing???
Did Matthew buy that aswell?
Bltch get off my balls i stan for now bish alright!
NO*
Yo dusty balls hangs to yo knee u old queen
Why would that be a bad thing? 🙂
Cause yo mammy aucks it u incest bred biitch
‘sucks’
Lady GaGa and Sia Furler write their own sh!t.. Let that sink in…
KII!!!!$$ NICKI HAS GHOST WRITTERS KII!!!! THAT BIITCH FAKE FROM HER ASS TO HEE SQUID EYES AND HORSE TEETH AS WELL AS HER WRITTING SKILLS(LESS) HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Chiiiile
Some of you fans scare me. You really do. Do you know there is such a thing as logical thinking and reading between the lines? I wonder how some of you did in school because from what I see on here you are a bunch of idiots who lack the ability to see beyond what you’re told by people who want you to believe what they’re telling you.
I would have to a bozo to believe that Mariah wrote all of her own songs knowing how little Tommy respected her or her opinions. It’s obvious that they called in amazing writers to help her with the songs who agreed to have their names taken off the credits in exchange for payment.
That doesn’t mean I’m not a loyal lamb, it means I’m good at using my common sense to see that it doesn’t make sense that a record label would allow a singer to write all of their own songs and run the risk of the songs turning out terrible when they’ve invested all that money in renting out the best studios and best sound engineers to make the songs sound good.
Beyonce and Mimi can write but their songs wouldn’t be what they were without ACTUAL song writers giving them lines they would never be able to write themselves and that’s a fact.
Why would Rob Fusari have any reason to lie about writing Bootylicious if he didn’t? He was writing songs BEFORE Destiny’s Child released No No No but now we’re expected to believe he just randomly decided to lie about Beyonce. Come on now, open your eyes and see that you DON’T KNOW your faves and that you DON’T KNOW how low they will stoop just to get a percentage of a song they know will make them millions.
Bye!! Mariah wrote all of her songs, yeah they were a few other co writers on some of her other songs but Mariah wrote most of her own s*** along with Walter Afanasieff. You can call Mariah a lot of things hit you cannot discredit her as a songwriter.
Stfu Mariah writes all her music she isn’t a fraud like Beyonce
Girl mariah writes all of her songs if she didnt she would put just their name on the credits! Beyonce put her name on cover for crying out loud! I know for a fact diane warren wasnt having that though she put mariahs name on the song because mariah actually helped writing the lyrics to it!!
I don’t care for Mariah’s attitude, but she actually does write her music. She actually had songs that were never released before the debut, her demo had 4 songs that ended up on the album, as well as all of her contracts have clauses that state verbatim that she has to write her own songs. As for that DC thing, that’s nothing but the truth. It’s very obvious.
The DC situation was about whose IDEA it was to use the guitar riff sample. It wasn’t about writing the song. Bey wrote bootylicious, and that whole damn awful survivor album.
Gaga is one of the only pop stars who writes their own music. You must applaud her for that Beyonce is such a joke with this so called writing thing which she doesn’t do.
WTF are u talking about ? did u actually look at the writing credits of CHARTDROP ? for Applause alone there’re like 8 writers…
How many songs has Riherpes written?
Gaga still writes more then rihannas wack
Nicki does write the majority of her own songs but I’m sure she does use a little help now and again to take them to the next level which is fine in my opinion. We know Nicki writes her own songs because of the rate at which she puts them out and how consistent the flows are. The only way I would believe she uses a ghost writer if is you told me she’s been using the same one since she started which is unlikely seeing as homegirl’s staff turnover is something ridiculous.
Good point.
U a drunk
Beyonce never wrote her songs. She may have added a run, but that isn’t songwriting. It’s a curious case with her being as talented as a performer that she is, feels the need to push her name into the credits of songs she didn’t really contribute to.
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Deny all you want but those who need every famed writer and producer to go and be with her at a studio for lengths of time to do an album sure isn’t a songwriter.
Billboards Top 20 Hot 100 Songwriters of the Decade.
1. Timothy “Timbaland” Mosley
2. Lukasz “Dr Luke” Gottwald
3. Pharrell L. Williams
4. Martin Karl “Max Martin” Sandberg
5. Rob Thomas
6. Alicia “Keys” Augello-Cook
7. Aliaune “Akon” Thiam
8. Scott Scorch
9. Stargate (Mikkel Storleer Eriksen & Tor Erik Hermansen)
12. Christopher “Ludacris” Bridges
17. Beyoncé Gisele Knowles
18. Jermaine Dupri
19. Curtis J. “50 Cent” Jackson, Jr.
Billboard >>>>>> your opinion.
Billboard are only going on what the public already believes not what is true. If this list was credible Beyonce wouldn’t be on there.
And absolute MESS at that horrible DEAD-liyah movie. Brittany Murphy was at a low point in her life when she died, but I doubt even she would have agreed to star in that MESS
marks gonna drag you.
I’m not scared of it, it must come
Ho
No shade cos I’m bi, but the majority of Bey’s fans are uneducated bottoms who don’t know how to do anything outside of looking for trade, learning her choreography or believing her lies. Don’t get me wrong because Beyonce is the motherfucking Queen but her fans are so stupid it hurts.
Why are gays so gullible?
^ U guys better read the H.IV+
Why isn’t Truth and it’s multiple accounts not blocked yet?
Truth who???
This isnt news.
Just like VICTIMNNA can’t sing to save her damn life……………………
Eloviano
September 21, 2014 at 7:50 am
“Biitch stop trolling and reveal who you stan for.”
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September 21st, 2014 at 7:58 am
“b**** go help Beyonce write a sentence.”
You’re not coming for me when Pukeflop is yet to be certified 2x platinum, and you replied in a comment that wasn’t meant for you. So have a seat >>> _/ with the rest of the biitches waiting for me to give a fuxk.
i feel like a lot of people are ignorant to the songwriting procedures and the process it takes. very rarely does one individual especially in today’s market write a complete song in solidarity. record companies have song writing teams to work with on creating everything.
if we don’t like it have the RIAA or or whatever writing policy agencies to change the rules. some of y’all ranting “my fave writes all their songs’ BULL CRAP look in the footnotes you’ll probably see 5 or 6 different name that have contributed in some way. its like this ,if I am making cookies and my best friend adds an ingredient that adds something special to the cookies,if i start selling the cookies i’d owe my friend some money because for all I know that pinch of whatever they added is what sells the cookie.
don’t get mad later when you aren’t paid for signing up to do shady work. People have been mumbling about Beyonce,Mariah,Madonna etc for years saying “they don’t really write” but royalties say otherwise and nobodies opinion of them will be altered for it.its part of the biz
Sorry to say but Beyonce knows who her audience is and you know who they are? Stupid h***. I don’t mean people who like her cos I like her too, I’m talking about her hardcore fans. If you truly think Beyonce tells you the truth I have to wonder what kind of lives you lead and what kind of people you mix with, because only an idiot would believe the lies she tells people.
Beyonce is the best performer of this generation hands down, but the truth tea is that her fans are not very bright at all. She has told some of the most outrageous lies over the years and they believe EVERYTHING she tells them.
I know their type very well, they convince themselves that they’re just as pretty as her and will do ANYTHING to sleep with a masculine man and really and truly believe that their asses are p******.
But everyone knows Drake likes to get his ass licked so what are you talking about?
Lol @OVO, I see no lies
Don’t speak to me. You’re a horrible b**** for that nickname you gave babygirl.
Shame one anyone who calls Aaliyah D********. You’re disgusting.
People just have no consideration or shame anymore. SMH!
Shame on you for stanning for Brandy in 2014
If t********* can lie about giving birth to Blue when we all know she got a surrogate, what’s stopping her from stealing credits and lying that she writes her songs? The H.IV+ f**** are the most stupid uneducated gullible people to ever walk this earth
Can you explain why you think it’s ok to call Aaliyah D********?
This is what I want to know.
Well FutureCIARA started it.
Lyrica Anderson helped to write Jealous and wasn’t credited, can the Hive explain that?
Lol at these f**** feeling some typa way coz I called her “DEAD-liyahl.. What must I call her? Alive-liyah? The b**** is dead tho, 6 feet under! #TRUTH #FACT #DEAL #uMAD?
I know you think you’re funny but you have to stop and think about what you’re saying when you say that. Her name is Aaliyah and she was a human being just like you are. If you don’t like her that’s fine but making fun of somebody’s death says so much about your state of spirit and mind.
Showing out for your master FutureCiara?
A b**** DEAD.. DEAD-liyah… U faggss will DEAL with this truth!!!
Pathetic ass gaga fans need to take a seat
We all know Beyonce don’t write her songs. The worst part her fans do believe all the lies she tell such a Fraud.
Death at it perched in here like almost every song in its fave’s last album doesn’t have at least three cowriters.
No shade but shouldn’t you be worried about getting UV to gold.
Aren’t you a Kelly Rowland stan though?
No shade but it’s already outsold all of Kelly Rowland albums combined worldwide so hush, and go babysit Blue Ivy.
Who? The gag gag Stan
DEATH at its fave latest album struggling to go gold, I thought she was an album seller???
Death at Fadga not even selling out Lana-sized venues in Europe. I thought it was a touring act?
What about Sia not even selling 400K worldwide? Chandelier was a worldwide hit.
Why isn’t UltraFLOP gold yet?
Why are none of Fad’s remaining dates sold out yet?
UV isn’t gold cause no one gives a f*** about Lana and her depressing music.
Didn’t u say she is an album seller? Why is she struggling to go gold? Why is she being outsold by BASIC Payola Perry?
Why is Lorde more successful than Lana?
Why do Fad stans cling to Borde instead of their own fave? Did they forget Payola Heroine also scalped Artpop?
Everybody should know that Nicki doesn’t write her hooks and choruses and sometimes she freestyles some singing lyrics. Most of the time when she chooses songs to rap over it already came with the lyrics and hook like Fly. It’s evident because she said so herself that she hates writing hooks but she can give a basic hook to an R&B singer like that’s song with Shanell LOL “Handstand” but yeah I believe she writes all her raps. The singing s*** she let others do. Esther Dean is her favorite song -writer to use
Everybody know this we talking about verses, nicki writes her own versus that’s the point. we can look at writing credits to see other writers for the choruses
Screaming at UV still struggling for gold.
Remember when Hoesie said UV would outsell ARTPOP lol I’m still waiting on that to happen.
Born To Die IMO won’t be as successful as it’s predecessor but it’ll probably go platinum and sell 3 – 4 million world wide by next year, while Artpop is forgotten.
*Ultraviolence
Adelephant stans need to stfu.
Adele has outsold you fav with one discography with one album.
She also out weighs my fav
As well as talented
Is Adele’s weight all Cutters can cling to since she effortlessly destroyed their fave with one album?
HAHAHAHA HOW DID I MISS THIS POST!!
Death at UV still having a chance at selling the same as or outselling DeclinePop with no promo or performances. What kind of lazy queen. Meanwhile Fad struggles to sell out 6K seats in Australia.
Just like everyone will forget to buy Adele’s next album..
Perth, WA ** Perth Arena
$…745,889 05,690 / 05,690 (100%)
Brisbane, QLD ** Brisbane Entertainment Centre
$…915,657 06,790 / 06,790 (100%)
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Perth Arena full capacity: 15,500
Brisbane Entertainment Center full capacity: 13,500
I see why they’re always bringing up Lana instead of their fave.
Maybe her stage took up at lot of space. Her gross for being such a small crowd is good too but why are the gags Stan’s acting like Lana is a flop when she sold more than every lip star out including mARIAhNA Grande.
I don’t know why. The fact that it’s still charting worldwide with literally no promo except for a few interviews and Glastonbury is impressive, especially when it has no hits to its name.
BEYONCE STRUGGLES TO READ BLUE IVY A BED TIME STORY WITHOUT HAVING TO STUMBLE OVER SIMPLE WORDS LIKE “THE” AND “THAT” I BET SHE EVEN STRUGGLES TO SPELL HER OWN NAME AT TIMES SO WHY WOULD HER DELUSIONAL STAN BASE BELIEVE THAT SHE ACTUALLY SPENDS ALL THAT TIME WRITING HER OWN SONGS BUT HEY THATS WHAT YOU GET WHEN JOBLESS MORONS PLACE A THIEF ON A PEDASTAL
@Cake No ones checking for Adelephants fat ass.
DEATH tho at ARTPOP outselling the supposed album seller. But the lone lana stan occupies TGJ more than it occupies Target Stores
Why do Fadga stans bring up Lana more than their own fave? Not just on here, but on other sites, too. They should be worrying about getting Trash To Trash above alt-J on iTunes.
@Rima I know right? All these bandwagon stans won’t even buy her next album because she is all hype. I dare her to sell as much as she did with 21 again
Why is it occupying TGJ more than it occupies Target Stores? UltraFLOP is struggling for gold and it’s busy trolling TGJ. SMH
Why is it bringing up Target, a store that has yet to expand to its own country, more than its own fave?
The decline. Not even Little Cutters want to discuss their own fave.
The same way everyone who bought Born This Way forgot to buy Artpop.
Why is it dragging UV when Sia’s album has yet to outsell its first week with a top 10 hit and tons of promo?
Why is it trying to come for someone else for trolling when it’s been perched in this post with the same, tired, stale drag for the past 2 1/2 hours?
I thought it didn’t know that UltraFLOP is struggling, so why after informing it that UltraFLOP is struggling for gold, is it still occupying TGJ more than Target? I guess it too isn’t here for Lana’s depressing flop album.
Y’all people so gullible its so funny. Like don’t y’all find it funny that people that have never worked with Beyonce say she cant/don’t write but people that who have worked with her said she can/does. Only stupid people will believe what someone who has never worked with her have to say rather than someone who has worked with her and y’all have the nerve to call the Hive dumb I just can’t
The same way you will hop off the Adele bandwagon when the next album flops harder than UltraFLOP
Welp… She just ended her career
Why did “UltraFLOP!!!1” already outlast Declinepop’s run in the top 50?
What proof does the Navy have that rihanna can even write?
Rihanna is not a writer but she has writing credits on a few songs.
Why is a Fadga stan talking about being perched at Target next week when that’s exactly where they need to be this Tuesday? Ashes To Ashes isn’t debuting at #1 and it barely has a chance at #2 right now.
Why has ARTPOP passed the gold certification and UltraFLOP is still struggling to reach it? Didn’t YOU say is Lana an album seller?
what a mess .
You know what’s really a depressing flop? NONE of Fad’s remaining tour dates being sold out sans 2/3 of her O2 dates that have been available since December. What kind of decline? Will she report those dates as sold out like she did with her less than 50% capacity Australian dates?
lol you are going in .
Will Cheek To Cheek sell 100K next week? Even with that buy-one-get-__-copies-free I doubt those HSN sales report to Soundscan.
So many unanswered questions yet Fage is clinging to the same tired drags!
How many $100m+ tours does Lana have?
Not when Artgrave is looking to gross $80 million at the most. Pathetic for all those (empty) arenas and 150+ dates!
Sia had more promo in the US than UV did worldwide yet her attempt at selling out still hasn’t sold 400K worldwide with a top 10 smash. Why aren’t you calling her a flop?
Sia is not a star tho. Carly Rae did the same thing
Hi.
I know but I expected at least 500K tbh.
Skyfall, guurl, Adele better not be releasing in early November!
The same why 21 & 19 have outsold every gaga album.
;;
Ps I start Staning Adele in 09 when I first heard hometown glory.
How many Grammies does Gaga have, Adele has 10.
LOL at the LIES. The Fame/Monster outsold 19. Whya are you lying in broad daylight??
But how many $100m+ tours does Lana have tho?
Sky fall, guurl, Adele better not be releasing in early November!!
Barbra Streisand doing 180K-185K with a jazz album. Lana doing 182K with an alternative rock album.
No one is expecting C2C to do that but if it does Me. I am Mariah… numbers with this HSN, etc. promo and Fad posting promo posters in public herself then the lashings come Wednesday will be ruthless.
My good sis @Cheryl just entered.. Hey sis
Heyyyy sis, how are u?
My question still hasn’t been answered tho, how many $100m+ tours does Lana have??
Wow at it still using the same “drags” it’s been using since it started posting here. Unoriginal and tired like their fave.
Lana’s tour was completely sold out. That’s all you need to know. Also Fad will never do arenas, let alone stadiums, again at this point. Pathetic. Biggest decline of all time.
I originated this drag lol. Sorry 🙂
No shade rosie, but I don’t see the sia logic. She’s basically been a nobody before chandelier, in the states at least. I doubt people recognized her on titanium or wild ones. Carly Rae had an absolutely massive hit, plus scooter Braun and a spot on biebers tour and did kelly rowland numbers.
I’m just using it against Fake.
I know Sia wasn’t popular until Titanium/Wild Ones in the US.
And kii at Carly Rae. Scooter is the worst manager ever. Ariana’s career will be over by next summer if he keeps it up.
Is going gold in Canada flopping?
I just checked her certifications, they’re all third world/7.5k-PlATinummm!!
Its been perched here for more than 2 hours now, instead of being perched on iTunes and purchasing UltraFLOP.. I’m gonna leave it to troll, I need to go now. Bye y’all
Ironic that it’s literally stealing my drags now in a post about stealing!
F**, you’ve been here since 7:52 AM central time according to this site. I would think it’d be time for you to go fetch water now for your village.
LMAOOOOOOO
Deathhhhhh!!!!! The drags are too much.
I forgot about “The Fame”
But 19 has outsold The Fame Monster, Born Ths Way, Artpop & soon Cheek to Cheek.
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CherylSoldier
I honestly don’t know I have feeling it’ll drop either late November or early December.
Early November is reserved for Cheryl 😉 hahah
honey we wasn’t talking about UK releases, leave the big girls to play
I’m probably about to leave on this beautiful Saturday morning in Toronto and do some errands. Have fun and don’t forget to buy alt-J’s This Is All Yours on iTunes this Tuesday!
Also, betty who’s new single! Slays!
yass!
Why should t Adele release early Nov. Because of Taylor & 1D
We already knew Nicki didn’t write any of her stuff. Esther Dean clocked her months ago. She wrote super bass and pills not potions.
She wrote the choruses not the versus
No girl, because I don’t need her blocking cheryl from that UK #1 lol.
Lol, I doubt she’ll release early November though, Hell by the looks of things she may not even release in 2014 but I’m hoping for December release
I wonder if bruno will too. And rih. Do you think Adele will do bigger first week numbers than one direction?
I feel like 1d will sell another 500+k first week while I feel like Adele will do about 600-650+. I doubt Rihanna will release in November but she usually drops her lead singles at the end of sept or October. Bruno I haven’t heard from him but I thought he was on tour.
Let’s be honest ppl. You can read and see if anyone writes their songs by the consistency in their lyrics, as well as the producers and co-writers chosen words. I.E. Mariah Carey. .. the Divorcing Chanteuse: “inevitably you’ll be back again” (1995)… “imprudently I left every cell in me” (2014)… Checks out fine, especially considering she has clauses in her contract that state she must have the freedom to write her own s***. When it comes to artists like Mariah, Janet, Alicia, Miguel, Stevie, Aretha, Ne-Yo, and etc., producers will BRAG about their penmanship and work ethnic, while artists like Nicki, Drake, and etc will get have people brag slightly on their penmanship (because they had less to do the lyrics) and more on their work ethnic, while artists like Beyoncé, Rihanna, and etc will have producers BRAG on their star power, overall talent, work ethic, and sightly deflect from the penmanship because much’t wasn’t done, which is why when they used to ask Ne-Yo how was it working with Beyoncé on Irreplaceable, he began rambling until he was able to talk about her star power, overall talent, and etc. No matter who you stan for, bring down the delusion to see the truth so you know what who and what you’re stanning for. TBHi have so much industry ‘tea’ you could sip for years.
Spill it then.
When Adele drops this album, I’ll give the truth just to you
Maybe I missed the part of the article that mentioned NICKI????? She did not mention Nicki
THerefore, the title of this article is SLANDER.
Im a Nicki fan but not a stan…. but y’all need to edit that headline
Everyone knows Nicki is very smart and writes her own lyrics.
Beyonce is a great performer and that is pretty much it.
Oh I just saw her ” do u belive Nicki writes her songs?
Yes BISH I do. she is smart…. Until u can provide evidence she doesnt believe… Now Beyonce? Ofcourse not.
Iggy … LOL believe Iggy writes her songs because her lyrics are weak. She is not in the same category as Nicki. Nicki is a REAL MC.
This post is a mess. Anyway, Beyonces not a rapper so its not surprising her verse was written for her.
i truly think that she started with writing songs early in her career but nowadays relies on other people doing so. certain parts of her songs might be from her but never an entire song. but where is the problem with that?
Beyonces retarded ass doesn’t even know how to hold a pen yet alone write a song.
Yawn.
At the end of the day both of them write…..sometimes. Nobody in that industry and at that level writes all of their music in totality. All of you naive and undereducated people who think Nicki writes all her lyrics are completely delusional.
Who’s writing her lyrics then? Nicki been sayin she writes her own verses since she was doing mixtapes. People who worked with hr before that saw her writing her verses and saw her writing for other people (dudes) in her crew.
Now she may get help on those pop songs and choruses but not her raps.
this is what it means to have a ghostwriter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6p3bwfjQiE
Well I’ve heard things about Beyonce before but Drake and Nicki is
a stretch in my opinion.
Funny enough, I’ve never heard of Tinashe
LOL Nothing we didn´t know.
Even the real songwriters like Mariah Carey, Alicia Keys, Lady Gaga, etc write their songs with other people. It´s just normal. So imagine what people like Rihanna or Beyonce contribute (despite them including their names in the credits just cause they changed a word LOL). At least, in the past, people who didn´t write, didn´t lie to the public (that goes for the basic people who I´m sure were ready to shade legends like Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, etc).They had that God given voice or whatever talent they had and didn´t have to lie about any other aspect.
Everything is always about Beyoncé and the beyhive.
I think Beyoncé does very much contribute to the writing & development of her music. Any sane person can see that.
Dont know why people are dragging rihanna into this, she Dont claim to have written anything and when she is credit its for like 4-5 songs off the album unlike some who sing high and low about writing this and that and put their names on every song off the album.
There’s nothing new here. The solution for songwriters is to write exceptional songs that canNOT be rejected and to be willing to walk away from bad deals.
I wanna fight, How dare you say Queen Nicki doesn’t write her own stuff! I WILL BEAT YOUR F****** ASS! B**** SHE AIN’T LIL KIM!
I hope these writers still get paid. They don’t get credit in the song thought right? Since they’re ‘ghost’-writers which is a bit sad. So when your song wins a Grammy or an award everyone’s gonna shift their attention to the artist who’s singing it and listed as a ‘writer’ even though you did most of the work…
I know bey don’t write her own stuff (majority of it anyway), she just steals and takes writing credits for other people’s songs (ghostwriter or not). A lot of things she does isn’t original or innovative. She always takes credit for stuff, but once she gets exposed she calls it inspiration. She swagger jacked a lot of artists, and what sucks is how delusional and in denial her fans & bandwagons are. To call other singers she ripped off unoriginal, copycats, swagger jackers, when their fave is the biggest fraudulent in the industry.