Right now ; Rihanna and Beyoncé are probably the biggest selling machines at the current moment. I'm talking cross industry wise. Just not music. You guys can sit here and cook up reads or locate fraudulent receipts all you want. It's a fact that they have become a brand and are very good at what they do or need to do. I know I shade bey down when I want; but I can be real when need be. The hive claim they support Ciara for talent. Isn't she trying to be a singer just like Rihanna and bey? Aside from being able to back bend and moonwalk, what talent does she have? Choreography? If Rihanna needed to she could be trained or taught to do that if need be. Ciara just happens to be able to do these things because naturally her focus is dance. I know my fave isn't the best dancer. But I have seen plenty of underground dancers who dance a million times better than Ciara. So what else can she bring to the table besides her man problems? Because it sure ain't vocals. The hive keep saying we stand for talent, however she hasn't proven herself vocally on any accord or occasion. So that line that you guys abuse is so null and void. You guys can play lacrosse all night with the tired shade trying to bring down one another;?m it doesn't help the fact that all Ciara accomplished was baby future and 6 years of flop. Nor should she be compared to Rihanna or bey on any accord.