Recent years have seen Urban Pop maestro Chris Brown share the stage with many of music’s leading ladies.
From his sizzling performance with Ciara at the 2008 BET Awards to joining ex girlfriend Rihanna on tour to deliver a rendition of their ‘Umbrella/Cinderella‘ combo around the same.
Now peep the ‘Take You Down’ crooner enjoy the company of touring buddy Kelly Rowland during the Atlanta showing of his ‘F.A.M.E Tour‘.
Watch the pair heat things up below…
![Nelly & Kelly Rowland Reunite to Perform Their 2002 Hit 'Dilemma' at the 2024 Baby2Baby Gala [Video]](https://thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/kelly-rowland-baby2baby-thatgrapejuice-2024-dilemma-nelly-464x260.jpg "Nelly & Kelly Rowland Reunite to Perform Their 2002 Hit 'Dilemma' at the 2024 Baby2Baby Gala [Video].")
Love Kelly and all, but she always goes on about not using s** to sell but she does, Motivation is all about s** as is Lay It On Me, all her covers and this. Its all good, nothing wrong with it. But don’t go round saying you don’t use it to sell.
All love for these two though. I’m just saying.
YESSSSS…. I would love to watch these two…#imjustsayin
Hell I might even participate myself! LOL
OH WOW IM ACTUALLY SURPRISED CHRIS BEATEMDOWN BROWN CAN BE AROUND A FEMALE POP STAR AND NOT BEAT HER SENSELESS.. I WOULD BE NERVOUS IF I WAS KELLY.. HOPE SHE DOESNT “PROVOKE” HIM..GHETTO B****** SMH
That Ciara Performance woooooo Was Hot as hell! Did yall see keyshia cole When they were performing? Lmao As for this HOT!
OMG I was hoping that you put this up Sam. Chris is so damn hot. Kelly never stop smiling even after Chris got up off her. I saw a close up picture of CB, he is really bulking up in the arms. S*** man.
RI RI IS ……………..
you are a s*** get a life
your fave needs some d**** and you know it
wow.queen kelly rowland and king breezy….hmmm.this is f****** hot.im patiently waiting for queen kelly rowland’s lay it on me video and down for wateva coz i cant get enough of her.
You know what i fill sorry for him, ireally do. ;~)
looooovedddd it…..the 2 most sensuals sexual hottest R&B singers out there…
cant wait for lay it on me …its allready my favo video of 2011 ..and that with only seeing a lil bit of it …
lol
That was amazing,but I still like the performance with Ciara better.
LMAO @ LOVE ON TOP!
YAAAAAASSSS Keyshia Cole was gettin her L.I.F.E and maybe some DEATH too!
SOOOOOO FUNNY!!!
Kelly is a REAL woman, with REAL talent and a REAL singing voice…unlike that 5-headed Barbadian alien Chris used to date.
@ Pop Royalty Is A Homosexual
You need help and a life because you havent gotten one after all !
@ POP Royality I thought you were a Rihanna stan, now you are a Kelly stan, confused much.
Did any notice how Cb had to fix CJ after he got off of Kelly. I’m sorry dirty mind, I notice everything. Lol
I attended the show in NJ. “fifth row” It was crazy. Chris was amazing. One to see in a lifetime. loved it.
@ homo how is kelly REAL when her insecure ass is pumped full of saline/silicone #stopit
Now I understand Kelly’s tweet to Chris Brown after the show.
Wooooo!! @chrisbrown just took me down……. 😉
That was hot 🙂 Both artist are doing their thing right now, and I’m proud of them.
@Jamir21 & @ ZANIA :
Do not care about my fan up there 😉 !!
I am enjoying having this soul stanning for me !
about this post :
DEAR @Sam :
If you don’t have HQ version of any vid , think before posting it ! cuz the quality of this vid above is s*** ! Hope you consider doing that soon !
^^^
But damn , his voice is NOT even TOLERABLE ! and both of Kelly and chris do that to get ppl’s attention to buy their recent albums ..
whatever they are doing , they are both FLOPS and together they make a good FLOP mixture !!
@Pop Royality You are confusing on who you are stanning for. I love Chris voice, I can listen to him all day. This man is just too fine, beautiful voice and dance moves, complete package. I forgot s*** as hell.
of course r**** stans are on here talking s*** no lives b******
:eye roll:
@ZANIA :
I am here for RIHANNA as a member of the navy !
But I will still appreciate good stuffs when I see it !
So when this happens , I will give credit even if I am not a fan of the artist !
this vid above is not good , so …
I know a Rihanna stan isn’t talking about someones singing voice? Hilarious!
Not a huge fan of Chris, but the boy is talented. No arguing there.
I just noticed all he does is hump random groupies, that is what ALL his shows consist of:(
I guess his nasaly voice & stale crunking is getting old:(
And I also peeped Kelly’s new magazine cover. She looks good.
@ lovely bytch please stop Riri has a unique voice, the beaver can do a nice crunk dance but even his ex-boyfriend Razb can sing better 🙁
@NoFlyZone
And that comment is suppose to mean something to me because? I’m not going to go back and forth with you, because at the end of the day my opinion will remain the same. Rihanna’s voice sounds like she’s trying to suck Jay-Z and Kanye’s d*** at the same time. Good day.
People relax. Neither of them are Queens or Kings (Kelly, Rihanna, Chris)
@LOVELY :
So I guess you tried to suck 2 d**** at the same time before 😉 ! cuz how you know this one if u didn’t try it before !?
hope you enjoyed sucking those d**** though 😆
@ Kody3x
You chris brown stans come on the rihanna posts and talk s*** TOOOO !!!!
I just love arguing with chris brown stans….its just builds up my CONFIDENCE !
@Pop Royalty
*Claps hands* You fell better sweetheart? I’m sure that took a lot of effort. Here’s a doggy treat for being a good little ol’ boy. Good day 😉
@jamir 21 arguing with r**** fans out of all people lmfao makes me look stupid who are yall nobodies and you said team breezy be in r**** post so you come here you sound like a child oh they hit me first so i do the same grow up we never be in her posts
DOnt put my b**** kelly in this becuz of chris brown and that none talented b**** that cant sing or dance out of a paper bag (rihanna) her stan really thinks she all that no sorry hun she just have looks! kelly>>>>>>>>>>rihanna any day kelly really sings and dance
Top female artist that can sing dance are……..
1. beyonce
2.Kelly Rowland
3.christina aguilera
4Lady gaga
WTF is he doing climbing on top of her like that? She even looked like the slight touch of him repulsed her, that’s why he kissed her on the neck…smh
AT THE END OF THE DAY BOTH KELLY AND CHRIS IS BETTER THAN RIHANNA ….LAZY WASHUP ASS LOL….JUST MY 2CENTS
*This is for All of the UK fans who are missing Chris, please skip if You’ve already read it*
“Not entended for Trolls or Stans of the X:
MESMERIZING! The applause, the cheering, the hand clapping and the SCREAMS were soooooo loud as the count-down for Chris’ appearance on stage ticked away the seconds; I watched as one child held both hands over her ears and screamed!
I’ve got to start with Chris, He was last to perform; The energy and anticipation was so great you couldn’t stay seated; YOU found yourself standing with eyes sharpen to not miss a single movement of the moment. Chris appeared and as he sang “Oh My Love” “Love the Girls” then “Say it With Me” one could not help but notice this tall lean but very muscular statuesk physic; as handsome as expected and no longer the young boi of course, but a 6’2??? man, who did flips like a human trampoline. He simply wore a thin summer sleeveless tee (you know the type he tears off) and a light blue pair of jeans which was a perfect fit (not sagging nor tight) in regards to the muscles in legs. He wore a black toboggan on his head as it was a chilly and a windy 42 degrees at the out door Walnut Creek Amphitheater, in Raleigh, NC. The chill did not effect his vocals at all. His voice was beautiful and on point. At one point he sang with out music and it was beautiful! He sang all of the songs from FAME, and only used auto tune on the introduction to “No Air” and I believe on “Forever”, but otherwise no auto tune. (You gotta hear “Forever” live, it’s a different effect). I could not keep up with the order of songs I was too excited and I’m sure I danced at my seat the whole show–so forgive me. When Chris sang Deuces, it was introduced for everyone to put their two’s in the air”, The beat of the bass was sooooo deep, loud and GREAT sounding; accustic wise I’m sure Raleigh, NC will never be the same. (please forgive misspelled words) YOU’D HAVE TO BE THERE TO EXPERIENCE IT! His voice was so on point. He sang an let us sing, then surprised us with Tyga’s appearance and rapping on “Deuces”. Chris and Tyga performed “Holla at me Boo” and “Bringing Snapbacks Back” The crowd just went Ham, crazy ALL NIGHT LONG! Chris changed outfits many many times during the night.
The STAGE was unique and beautiful, a sight to behold. I could see the ramps on either side and (remembered his fall last week was it?) Well, Chris jumped off the steps and avoided the ramp all together on his 1st. time down from the upper levels of his three-story high stage. When Chris performed “She Ain’t You” his dancers were “killing it” it was GREAT. He ended that song in the sillowett of Micheal Jackson (How do he do that?) . Chris dances to perfection not only this song but “Every” song! Remember, how perfectly, he performed on BET and VMAs and MTV awards, well each song was performed with that same amount of intensity and energy “each song” all with choregraphed dance steps and special 3D light show effects. A very very very large screen, located at the top of the stage gave the effects of being on broadway or inside the music video with Chris. When Chris sang “All Back”,”Take you Down” and “No BS” his stage presence just transcended directly to your heart, No Videos, TV nor PC can compare to seeing him live. He sang “Look At Me Now”, Yeah 3x and his dancers “Killed it”; “Next to You’\” and Wet the Bed was wonderful too! Chris blew us away with “Paper, Scissors, Rock” loved the light show and lighted dancers with that; but Chris saved the best for last as he performed “Beautiful People” with all it’s lazer lights and lighted dancers, he brought the house down to say the least. I GOT MY MONEY’S WORTH. It felt like I had worked out in the gym. wow!
TYGA came on 1st. and he performed well but short. Next, was Ms. Kelly Rowland and she was phenominal! She is so pretty with really long legs and dances really really well. Her voice is beautiful; the girl can SANG! T-Pain put on a real Good show. His time on stage was a little longer and T-Pain “killed it” too! and get this He is loosing weight! He sang most of the night without auto tune, Unbelievable! That man can Sang! I guess if you tour with Chris Brown you’ve got to RAISE THE BAR!
I saw Pat, Chris’ bodyguard, and he isn’t really that big. TV and photographs make him look huge or it could be when he stands next to Chris makes him look big. He was talking to some guys; I looked at him, he looked at me but I didn’t speak even tho he looked approachable.
Comment by Oceanmate — October 2, 2011 @ 2:20 am
Oh, the place was packed! I live 2 miles from the Amphitheater and it took me 48 minutes to get home. The traffic was so thick it was in grid lock.
I think the Atlanta show was Kelly’s last night with the FAME Tour. Hopefully she’ll be doing her own show in the near future!
@OceanMate I read your comment, you broke down the concert perfectly. I went to the DC concert even though I don’t live in DC.I made a trip of it and visit DC with a bunch of my friends, because he is touring in my city when I am leaving the country for vacation, but it was worth it. I want go to his concert again. If you haven’t been to his fame tour concert you are missing one of the best concerts of the year.
@MHud and DoKuzMany- I know!! I’m sooo ready for the Lay it on Me video too. It’s loooong overdue, but I just know it’s gonna be worth the wait. (Presses play on “All of the Night” in the meantime)
@RHI RHI IS QUEEN
B****, it’s only “BUSTED LIP” who seems to have gotten her ass beat! I guess that’s what happens when you swing first then hide behind the fact that you have a v*****! Didn’t she know she had a “slit” before she started swinging?
**** Oh well, GET IT CHRIS, YOU BEAUTIFUL BOY!! mwah 🙂
This was wonderful! I LOVE CHRIS BROWN! Kelly girl you did your thing on this tour. I loved every bit of the F.A.M.E. Tour. Even T-Pain put it together!! Get’s your tickets for this one ppl you’ll love it!! 🙂
BREEZY = YOUNG KING IN THE MAKING!! #hatersdropdeaddotcom
@zania
October 8, 2011 at 6:18 am
OMG I was hoping that you put this up Sam. Chris is so damn hot. Kelly never stop smiling even after Chris got up off her. I saw a close up picture of CB, he is really bulking up in the arms. S*** man.
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LOL, I don’t blame her! I would have been smiling before, during, and after too!! 🙂
This was too hot and cute. We even got a Luda sighting!! I like when artists come out to support one another. The media is always promoting dis-unity among artists. It’s nice to see them come together, have fun, and entertain the fans!!
This was good give fukkkkkkin credit and keep
it moving.
@the real POP ROYALTY I CO SIGN U
With fans like xyz,,,,baa,,, kody,,,Y Never have
to worry about others loving Chris/kelly because these
Trolls,,,,,Beat all Its impossible to reach a fukkkkkkkkin healthy
median with their Wack asses all up in the FUKKKKKKKKIN Mix.
Give me a mofo break
And another thing all of the stupify surrounding some of
you all, and all of the cursing RIHANNA Out and calling her names R never going to erase the FACT that rih is a power to be reconed with, you dirty bytches now stick that up your m***** asses,,,,,good day
Stupidity my bad
@SAM/TGJ STAFF
Here is the true “T” on Chris Brown, the MJ Tribute, and his 2012 UK FAME TOUR:
http://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/168195/9
Friday, 07 October 2011 Written by Elliott Batte
According to Daily Mirror reports today, Chris Brown was blocked from entering the UK this week, preventing him from performing at Saturday’s Michael Forever tribute concert. What the reports don’t mention is the fact that Chris Brown wasn’t even on the line-up for the gig – and that he is actually currently in the middle of his own US tour.
The story says that Brown was apparently barred from coming to Britain because of his previous criminal activities and his record – but these rumours are in actual fact false, as there is no way Brown would agree to perform at the show when he has gigs lined-up for tonight, Saturday, Sunday and almost every day until November 6th. Also, if Snoop Dogg, The Game and Ice Cube can all manage to make their way into the country – I’m sure little old Chris Brown can too.
The article seems to suggest that Chris Brown was part of the concert’s line-up, and suggested that maybe he could perform by hologram, but the anonymous source then decided that that “would put a negative slant on the day.”
In related news, Chris Brown is said to be planning to bring his F.A.M.E tour to the UK in 2012 – watch out on Stereoboard for more news on that tour in the near future.
@Lax
You are kidding right? Why don’t you scroll three posts from the top and tell me what you see! One of your favs stan’s making disparaging remarks against Chris Brown. What I find interesting about you Rihanna stans who complain that you cannot reach “common ground” with CB stans/ fans is that its just S&M (smoke and mirrors). You run over Chris in your fav’s name but expect ppl not to respond in kind! That makes no sense! I didn’t click on this post to say anything about Rihanna but if her fans/stans want to start trouble, expect trouble in return!
Although I don’t like Rihanna, when she does something worth complimenting I will do so. So don’t even try that crap with me!
I let y’all play for a while but let’s keep it real :
In 2011 :
RIHANNA > artists in this post and their STANS compined !
and I heard a s**** h** talking about Kelly being better than Rihanna !! B**** go suck a d*** and hush ! Kelly better lip-sync her own life , she is always out of breath on stage and her dancers outshine her ! Let’s not ..
Kelly is a very weak performer , she is only qualified to be a background noise behind BEYONCE ! that’s what she do best !
Rihanna outsold both of their latest albums sales combined !
Rihanna songs are better ! That Kelly single ” lay it on me” is WHAT’S MY NAME PART 2 !
Know your fav’s place in the industry , 15 years and still a basic b**** ! 😆 , can she even get her single out 😆 ?! Does anyone beside @Sam even care ?!
😆
And I won’t be talking about street dancers ! his latest album sales says it all ! a FLOP !
Rihanna is the best , f*** the rest ! you basic b****** will be dealin’ 😉
Hope this truthful comment won’t hurt your asses while sitting on it 😆
why can’t people just stay on topic.? give me a freakin break. really.
rianna doing her thing. chris doing his thing. gee……let it go. boring same crap.
@LAX :
Dont worry about those SKANKS , they will deal !
I will always wake them up from their fair tales and dreams !
and I really don’t care about CB d*** suckers !
@shell :
It is too late now ..
BEYONCE A BASIC B**** ……THIS IS REALLY FUNNY ….TO KEEP IT ALL THE WAY 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 RIHANNA IS THE BASIC B**** IN THE GAME HELL TIFFANY EVANS IS EVEN BETTER THAN RIHANNA REAL TALK..
RIHANNA HAS THE MOST DELUSIONAL STAN BASE…THE ONLY REASON LOUD DID SO WELL IS BEACUSE SHE BEGG YOU PEOPLE TO BUY HER ALBUM…HANDS DOWN
TRASHY ASS D*** SUCKING C** DRINKING F**
NOW DRINK YOUR C** JUICE…..CHEERS
@ Richandblack11 FAKE B**** !
Awwww. My favorites getting it in. Very cute! I love what Kelly is doing these days. She’s 30—so she gets to be beautiful and S***, but also classy.
@ Pop Royalty
Well, we all know about Kelly’s success with DC and her solo career is heating up right now. Chris Brown is far from a flop. You are such a hateful b****. Why aren’t you somewhere beating off to the Billboard Chart? Rihanna dominates that. Great, she’s successful in that way. No one denies that, but that’s not my measure of success and it doesn’t have S*** to do with this thread. So stop getting off topic because you can’t stand to see Chris Brown having a good time.
@RICHANDBLACK,,,,RIHANNA Is and will always B, Beyoncce’s Shadow
And thers not a dam thing U & Haters can do about that but tslk smack.
@POP ROYALTY,,,Thanks
Rihanna keeps them alive with all of the excitement goi g on around her
and her much sort after caree, U Basic Bytches will DealllllllllllllllROFL,,,MAO
F*** R**** NAVY all of you are lame and have no lives
@ Kody3x F*** F***** BROWN STANS yall have no class and no morals !
dancer with a mic…. good bye!
THIS is precisely why I WON’T be buying a “F.A.M.E tour” ticket..!!
@Chistopher Maurice Brown/Staff — MY DUDE, I sure hope, after being so close to her, you deloused, and properly..”decontaminated”:
1.) KELLY ROWLAND SUCKS WHITE PENIS!
2.) KELLY ROWLAND EATS WHITE MEN’S ASS!
3.) KELLY ROWLAND’S BREATH SMELLS LIKE S****!
4.) KELLY ROWLAND TOOK MONEY OUT OF CHRIS’ POCKETS (by being on this tour)!
5.) KELLY ROWLAND PLAYED/USED CHRIS!
6.) KELLY ROWLAND IS EXACTLY WHY “F.A.M.E” SALES HAVE SLOWED!
7.) KELLY ROWLAND MURDERED TROY DAVIS!
8.) KELLY ROWLAND EXECUTED OSCAR GRANT!
9.) KELLY ROWLAND IS A DISEASE!
10.) KELLY ROWLAND ARE THOSE HATERS, IN CHRIS’ BUILDING, WHO MADE HIS LIFE MISERABLE!
11.) KELLY ROWLAND IS HARVEY LEVIN!
12.) KELLY ROWLAND IS LAUGHING BEHIND CHRIS AND TEAM-BREEZY’S BACK (’bout how she’s using him/y’all)!
13.) KELLY ROWLAND IS ROBYN ROBERTS!
14.) KELLY ROWLAND IS OPRAH WINFREY!
15.) KELLY ROWLAND IS THE PAPARAZZI WHO CONTINUE FOLLOW AND CRUCIFY CHRIS!
16.) KELLY ROWLAND IS FOX NEWS!
..Me..??!! F*** NO! ..I’ll NEVER be a part of something that harbors a LIAR, USER, DEGENERATE, TRANSGRESSOR — the likes of a Kelly Rowland!!
Having Kelly Rowland on this tour is a “slap in the face” of/to every-last “Team-Breezy Soldier”..COUNT ME THE F*** OUT..!!
X,Y,”and Z” — “CALL ME…ISHMAEL”..!!
Loved it! Thanks TGJ…saw the concert in TO and they all ROCKED!
Oh look, R****** stans starting s*** again! What surprise!! Pressed b******! You h*** need lives! SMH!
Anywho, it’s about damn time this video surfaces! I was beginning to wonder if it even existed! It’s been damn near a week since this show! It was cute to see them get all steamy with each other but honestly Chris gets freaky with a girl on stage at every show so it’s nothing we haven’t seen before. Plus he kinda held back, he didn’t hump her like he does all the other girls. Just a lil kiss on the neck but she clearly enjoyed it!
I love the lil glowing heart thingy he had on too. That was cute! I really shouldn’t be watching these videos cause my show is tomorrow and I want to be surprised! I’ve think I’ve seen damn near every song he’s performed! SMH! I have no will power! Lol! And it sucks that the Atlanta & Miami shows got so many special guest! I bet not a damn sole is gonna show up to the VA show!
I’m still kinda bummed Kelly won’t be at my show tomorrow! From the videos I’ve seen she’s put on a good show. #OhWell At least I get to see my fave. *shrugs*
S/N: I wonder if being on the tour helped her albums sales at all? I doubt it. *shrugs*
williNalli
October 8, 2011 at 1:10 pm
WTF is he doing climbing on top of her like that? She even looked like the slight touch of him repulsed her, that’s why he kissed her on the neck…smh
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He climbs on top of ALL the girls dumbass, it’s the lap dance segment of the show! Kelly knew what was up cause she’e been on tour with him for a month now and OBVIOUSLY agreed to do the chair. You can CLEARLY see a big smile on her face when he kissed her neck so you can tell she enjoyed it just like ALL other girls that got to sit in the chair. IF she was ‘repulsed’ she wouldn’t have tweeted how much she liked it you dumb b****!
EightiesBaby8030
October 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I think the Atlanta show was Kelly’s last night with the FAME Tour. Hopefully she’ll be doing her own show in the near future!
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Um….yeah. I wouldn’t count on that.
JAMIR21: I LOVE RIHANNA, BRITNEY, BEYONCE, NICKI AND GAGA
October 8, 2011 at 11:45 am
@ Kody3x
You chris brown stans come on the rihanna posts and talk s*** TOOOO !!!!
I just love arguing with chris brown stans….its just builds up my CONFIDENCE !
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If you were ‘confident’ then you wouldn’t have to come to a post about someone you supposedly don’t like to argue with their fans. Confident people don’t need to do that! You are a insecure ignorant lil b**** just like the rest of the PRESSED R****** clan! You are CLEARLY intimidated by people with actual talent that post a threat to your fave!
@jamir 21 look im tired of your gay fruit cake fagget ass you mad but b**** this is a cb post so f*** r**** navy
omgosh! he’s actually singing?! wow! I’m surprised. I love Chris and his voice but I hate when he lip synchs in his peformances. thats why I didn’t wanna go to the concert cuz I didn’t wanna be disappointed (mainly cause it’s nowhere near where I live) but now I wish I wasn’t so effin lazy
@Chistopher Maurice Brown/Staff — MY DUDE, I sure hope, after being so close to her, you deloused, and properly..”decontaminated”:
1.) KELLY ROWLAND SUCKS WHITE PENIS!
2.) KELLY ROWLAND EATS WHITE MEN’S ASS!
3.) KELLY ROWLAND’S BREATH SMELLS LIKE S****!
4.) KELLY ROWLAND TOOK MONEY OUT OF CHRIS’ POCKETS (by being on this tour)!
5.) KELLY ROWLAND PLAYED/USED CHRIS!
6.) KELLY ROWLAND IS EXACTLY WHY “F.A.M.E” SALES HAVE SLOWED!
7.) KELLY ROWLAND MURDERED TROY DAVIS!
8.) KELLY ROWLAND EXECUTED OSCAR GRANT!
9.) KELLY ROWLAND IS A DISEASE!
10.) KELLY ROWLAND ARE THOSE HATERS, IN CHRIS’ BUILDING, WHO MADE HIS LIFE MISERABLE!
11.) KELLY ROWLAND IS HARVEY LEVIN!
12.) KELLY ROWLAND IS LAUGHING BEHIND CHRIS AND TEAM-BREEZY’S BACK (’bout how she’s using him/y’all)!
13.) KELLY ROWLAND IS ROBYN ROBERTS!
14.) KELLY ROWLAND IS OPRAH WINFREY!
15.) KELLY ROWLAND IS THE PAPARAZZI WHO CONTINUE FOLLOW AND CRUCIFY CHRIS!
16.) KELLY ROWLAND IS FOX NEWS!
“ISHMAEL”