It really doesn’t matter what your stance is on it , gay rights is an issue that is relevant from Sacramento to Saigon.
Now, the Rapper T.I has given his thoughts on the hot topic exclusively to VIBE.
His comments below…
He explained:
Man, I will say this, the funniest joke I ever heard Tracy say during a stand-up was, ‘C’mon man, I think gay people are too sensitive. If you can take a dick, you can take a joke.That shit was funny to me. And it’s kind of true.
Going onto add:
They’re like,‘If you have an opinion against us, we’re gonna shut you down.’ That’s not American. If you’re gay you should have the right to be gay in peace, and if you’re against it you should have the right to be against it in peace.
While Mr. Harris is correct in his stance that everyone is entitled to their opinion, his entire statement will be sure to rock a few boats.
For, regardless of what you feel about a person’s lifestyle or sexuality- there is no reason tax paying- law abiding people who give just as much or as little to society as you do should be treated like second citizens because of who they love.
And when it comes to ‘sensitivity’, T.I and Tracy can keep their jokes.
Because, as long as members of the LGBT community remain on the receiving of bullying, hate crimes and unjustifiable legislation, we find it hard to find the funny in any of Mr. Morgan’s comments.
Especially when he himself came under fire to saying he would ‘pull out a knife and stab’ his son if he discovered he was gay.
As we put it, not everyone has to share the same point of view and nobody is asking anybody to- but until complete equality is achieved, there is no room for idiotic comments like these.
Stop twisting his F****** quotation for more clicks. I hate blogs–they’ll never be legit because they are ALWAYS reaching and sensationalizing. Nice post you f****** idiot.
TI did not say “Some Gay People are UnAmerican”, he was saying that not respecting people’s differing opinions, positive or negative, was un-american. As a gay man, I say to each his own.
…I just hate misquoting, with a passion =/
Lord…I love when TGJ tries to get all Time Magazine editorial on us. Stick to the new vids and music. Leave the politics on other sites.
Asshole.
You just f****** lost a bunch of people who used to buy your albums , I don’t think he understands what he said. How DARE YOU ??
Thank You AUNTIEJACKIE…..
I’ve always felt T.I has a little zest in him. who is he to talk?
I guess he didnt drop the soap when he was in Jail…# justsaying
Words were CLEARLY twisted here…Shame on you TGJ trying to get some hits….
The way his wife looks would make any man consider becoming gay if that was possible… #justsaying
@Auntiejackie
I agree with the twisting comment US Magazine is the same especially against Kris Humpries
At the end of the day I agree with some of TI points sometimes people ain’t gonna like it and you can’t jump on all of them and at the end of the day everyone is entitled to a peaceful life gay or straight no one deserves hate for their lifestyle or opinions and not everyone is gonna like gay people, me personally I don’t care they don’t bother me and shouldn’t anyone else but that’s not the way it is no matter what you do in life people always have something to say
Ummm Ok! It kind or goes both ways! It seems as tho he was protecting the GAYS and Then he flipped the script and got funny with it!
Shut up Sam!
This the 2nd time in a week that u’re whining about bullying.
Are u serious? Have u read ur blog and ur endless cyber-bullying of Rihanna.
Yall sure know how to dish it out but yall can’t take one.
T.I. is right. If u can take a d***, u should be able to take a joke.
THE END.
I agree with T.I some gays sre too senstive. If you’re happy with the choice you have made and yes it is a choice then why would someone’s opinion affect you?
he is right and again , @sam IS REACHING AND TWISTING FOR hits !
WEAK b**** HUNGRY for d**** sissy !!
grow UP h** !
Sam,
T.i doesn’t need a lecture from u about what’s unamerican or not.
what u know about that?
U’re just a britsh… Stay in your line.
Stop tryna act like u’re a part of us.
U ain’t american & u ain’t never gonna be american.
Why don’t u worry about ur riots and leave american politics to Americans.
Make me laugh when rappers make comments like that and wear color lenses on a cover of a mag.
“Glamour” magazine suits you more hun!
Not all d**** are big enough to hurt you hahhahahahahaha.
@TruthTeller
I agree with U, btw i am an American.
YESSSS!!!! T.I.!!! I TOTALLY AGREE, THEY CAN GET ON THIS SITE AND BASH THESE CELEBRITY WOMEN ALL DAY BUT CANT TAKE IT WHEN SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THEIR F***** ASSES… AND TO THE FOOL TALKING ABOUT HIS WIFE, ATLEAST HE HAS A LOVING WIFE & KIDS, WHAT DO YOU LOSERS HAVE? MISERABLE B******
First of all, to assume that all gay men “take d***” is dumb as hell!
Second, just because you have “an opinion” does not mean that you are FREE from criticism. If you say some dumb s***, you may be criticized for it–simple. Many Americans have this concept completely skewed. No one is free from criticism.
Finally, just when I thought he couldn’t get any dumber, well…see his comments above.
Gays should have equal rights and not be attacked about it! Weather youre gay or straight, love is love and theres someone for everyone! P.S. Only a Man knows what a man wants! Same as with women!
I agree with him & Tracy Morgan, besides their are worse things happening in America.. THE END
Exactely, if Sam knew anythin he d know that us americans take the 1st amendment very seriously. And unlike Europe, we don’t have laws limiting speech & thought regardless of how offensive they are.
In america, u have the right to say racist things & homophobic things and the government protect that right.
Tracy Morgan has the right to say offensive gay jokes if he wants.
Gays have to right to express their disapproval.
& T.I has the right to show support for Tracy Morgan.
We do not wanna become a hypocritical politically correct society like Europe Sam. That’s how yall ended up with Nazism, fascism, world wars and a recent rise of the extreme right in many European countries like Switzerland & Norway.
Cus u have frustrated people who’ve been denied freedom of speech for so long that once they get it, they go all crazy and psycho with it.
What twisting of words?? The headline is a little misleading but what he said was laid out CLEARLY for all to weigh in. I think he’s just a pathetic AHole! Its like saying “its okay to be against fat people/blacks and vice-versa as long as you do it peacefully. Its your choice.” He can twist his own words however he wants but he’s basically saying “Gay’s b*tch alot” CLEARLY he is not fully aware of the situation. Thank God for gaga!
THEY’RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK BABY THEY WERE BORN THAT WAY!!!!!!
Tip’s comments are his opinion. People will agree or disagree that’s life. NO he shouldn’t be criticized for having an opinion. Stop being sensitive and move on because it won’t change or stop him from having them.
He didn’t state that gay people should be treated like “second citizens”.Clearly taken out of context and actually he didn’t even mention anything similar to that, so you just churned it out 🙄 And that title…I just can’t…
The “gay bullying” thing baffles me.I have NOTHING against gay people, NOTHING.But this is getting overwhelming.EVERYONE is getting bullied.If you’re fat, if you’re short, if you’re not as clever as your classmates/co-workers, if your hair looks weird, if your interests are different, you are going to get bullied.This is NOT a gay exclusive, it applies to EVERYBODY, but gay people are the wildcard of the media to create controversy.They are the most widely discussed minority, but they aren’t dealing with any less bullying than all the other minorities.Bottom line is that if YOU don’t love yourself, noone will love you back and if YOU can’t appreciate yourself then people will disrespect and bully you.That applies to each and every citizen of the world regardless of race, appearance and sexual orientation.
LMAO! HIS F***** ASS GOT TURNED OUT IN THE BIG HOUSE. WHEN BUBBA MADE HIM HIS B****!!! T.I. OUTTA KNOW ABOUT TAKING A D***!
Sam twisted his words yes.
But this rapper was just saying dumb things. Uneducated Americans are so funny cos of how pathetic they look when they try to say something intelligent. I know everybody can have an opinion but people who are always saying “but´s” when talking about this are just homophobic. In Spain if someone would say that in tv or a magazine he would be officially declared homophobic and with a reason. He can have an opinion but also say “I know my opinion it´s homophobic” and that´s it. I know you Americans are still not that open as Spain when it comes to gays so probably that´s why so many comments defending T.I
It also happens with the “but´s” when some people talk about women, machismo, poberty. To sum up: conservative people who always take advantage of the rights achieved for others when they were first against those rights
@truthteller
Sorry but the USA likes censorship more than hamburgers honey. Is it that you don´t know about all the amount of films that get censored in your country? Are you really trying to say something to Europenas about civil rights???? JOKE
Some people are so damn ignorant…this n**** T.I. just disrespected almost every gay person with those statements. Obviously he is uninformed with gay rights and what we are “complaining” about. Gays are mad at what Morgan said because he threatened to whip his son basically like whites whipped slaves because he is gay, which is not a choice but something that is due to nature and genetics (yes b****** do research). Gays are angry because we are getting abused and mistreated because we want a choice in who we love and what general respect for who we are? Nobody is stopping him from performing bestiality on that thing he calls a wife…but hey what else would you expect from a repeated ex-con who i am sure is an expert in all matters of “taking a d***.”
@TINA
100%! That´s the point. Some people don´t get some things
I don’t agree that it’s o.k. to be Gay. I also don’t agree that its o.k. to have children out of wedlock, or to lie or steal. Most of all, I absolutely hate those who judge others. We don’t have to agree with how others choose to live their lives, but we do have to be kind and respectful of them as human beings. All minorities have the potential to be overly sensitive. I say live and let live and quit worrying about how others perceive you….SpreadDaWord.com
So if its ok to against it (gay people), is it ok to be against black people?
I’m sure he would take it in peace if a white supremacist called him a filthy n*****.
@CUNTINA PIGUILERA, PREACH!!!!!!
& also, no one should criticize the white supremacist either because that is only “an opinion.”
T.I. said ” ‘C’mon man, I think gay people are too sensitive. If you can take a d***, you can take a joke.That s*** was funny to me. And it’s kind of true.”
THATS HILARIOUS!!!!
@dagreatkingrock
I’m sure he would take it in peace if a white supremacist called him a filthy n*gg-r. Oh yes, I’m sure. But what else can be expected of an ex convict.
Mehn all Ʊ insane F******,,,dude has a right to his opinion! If yu wanna blame anyone blame da magazine for asking him such a question!! P.s he aint lady gaga who’s constantly tryna tap into the gay market!!! So Jam rock!
well TI can forget my support..if it was a white comedian saying what Tracy said about gays about blacks, TI would not be defending it. Dude is mad ignorant
First of all T.I gay people wasn’t mad at the take a d*** joke, We were made at the killing your son part. I like T.I but if he comes for the gays again I will be done with him. But this is really not a big deal I really hope glad doesn’t try to get involved and release a long pointless statement. I’m gay and I DON’T care what people say about me as long as they don’t put there hands on me my problem with Tracy’s comment was that he said he would KILL his son if he was gay. Come on TI u know that was a little to far. I don’t think TI is homophobic I just think he is a ignorant product of his environment. He did just get back from jail so ima let him live but…… if comes for the gays again I’m done on him.
What’s the problem. I don’t agree with the gay lifestyle either, but as long as you don’t bother me, I won’t bother you. Why would my opinion about you lifestyle effect you?
WOW, its amazing how you got these artists who are homophobic but rely heavily on gay influences in their music and style. TI goes ham on anyone who says anything about him or his family but gay people shouldn’t have the right to defend themselves against so called jokes that are violent and hurtful. Gay people need to wake up and stop buying these rappers music….styling them (somebody tell TI 2 take off that gucci/louie rag designed by 2 gay men Marc Jacobs and Tom Ford). TI needs to worry about staying out of jail with all those gay men whom he just cant seem to stay away from.
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
@Johnvidal
Clearly u don’t have a clue about the US constitution.
When a movie is censured in the USA, it is not censured by the US government or by any government organisation.
It is the PRIVATE owner of the movie chains who chose if he wants or not to show the movie in his PRIVATE property.
In our country even crazy Tea Partiers can challenge the citizenship of our president. And we let them cus it s their right to be ignorant racists.
So again, don’t talk about thinks u know nuthin about.
@truthteller
you’re just a son of a b****. we don’t want to have your opinion dumbass
Send that nasty ignorant n**** back to jail to get ass r**** b******* by bubba and catch another S**
T.I. Is Gay…… ‘That what d*** behind bars will do to you’
@Johnvidal
Please, stop the whole European are so ahead with civil right.
o in Spain gay people can get married. Big hoopla
Same is true in Iowa, Massachusetts, New York and other states in the USA.
We ar are a federal country.
Also, for a citizen of a country that just left the Franco dictatorship u have a lot of nerves to attack us.
Europeans can not say s*** to americans about civil right. You have orchestrated the largest genocide in human history with the holocaust, you have started the 2 worst wars in the history of the world.
So please don’t even start.
If it wasn’t for the USA, you ll all be livinf under a nazi or communist government today.
U better be grateful
C’mon man, I think gay people are too sensitive. If you can take a d***, you can take a joke.That s*** was funny to me. And it’s kind of true.
He really have a bad experience in prison, the guy who r*** him maybe has a big d***, T.I after the experience (oh God that really hurts, now i have a lost respect for Gay people, how can they take that.)
Such a mature comment he did not say anything that is considered anti gay. He said you should accept peoples opinions. And that gay people should be secure enough with themselves and accept that some people do not agree with their live style. He said that you should not shut someone down because you do not agree with them.
Love the way you’re trying to be philosophical today Sam, as if you dont go in on Rihanna and Lil Kim every chance you get.
As for TI, whatever, it’s his opinion. Period. We all have our own thoughts and opinions. Do i agree with his? Not really. Are there more important things to be concerned about in the world? Yes.
This has absolutely nothing to do with T.I. having an opinion nor his ability, or right, to express his opinion. This is not a First Amendment issue.
The issue is T.I. believes that people should be free from criticism for expressing an opinion.
Freedom of Speech DOES NOT EQUAL Freedom from Criticism.
For example, if I made an anti-semtic comment in public, that is is my right. That is my opinion. But the Anti-Defamation League may come out publicly and criticize my opinion. It’s very simple.
for a black person to be homophobic….. they should be ashamed of themselves. The trials we’ve had to overcome over centuries and now trying to oppress gays using the same logic
*anti-semitic*
I think even when you do not agree with someone regarding their colour, religion or sexuality you should treat the person with respect. I always believe in treating a person the way I want to be treated. Hating is not the way forward.
So if I were anti (insert race here), it’d be ok? People cannot help the way they are born. We all deserve equal respect and rights.
@truthteller
I know about all that honey! Remember Europeans have a good educational system. And yeah we are talking about 2011 not Franco, which speaks even bigger about the current situation of civil rights in Europe and Spain. Putting it simple: People have a better life in Europe than in America. Do your research if you doubt it. Damm over there if you have no money, you don´t have the right to get proper medical help. Don´t meke me laugh. I wish USA could be more like Canada. Just for American people themselfs
Anyway we are talking about T.I´s ignorant ass. I can´t believe so many people buy these rappers albums full of homophobic remarks, treating women like s***, etc, etc
I’m gay and I agree with TI 100%. Sometimes we as gays tend to victimize ourselves, but gay people are some of the biggest bullies on the planet and very cruel as well. It really is sad to me…Gay people have come so far being accepted in society, but we can be so ugly to others who are simply expression their beliefs.
I have a new level of respect for TI’s s*** ass. And I absolutely love his devotion to his wife and family.
WHAT DOES PHYSICALLY TAKING A D*** HAVE TO DO WITH EMOTIONAL EFFECTS FROM GAY BASHING? ANOTHER DUMB BUMPKIN RAPPER,..MOMMA ALWAYS SAID U WOULD NEVER KNOW A FOOL UNTIL HE OPENS HIS MOUTH
And you clearly just proved your mother right. Please go sit in a corner and read a book.
TI needs to go get his wife a new face….she is b*** ugly… and thats my opinion…
And he needs to get his life str8 drug using thug wannbee
Gays are to be respected like everyone else… Do not mess with us
@Johnvidal
People have a better life in Europe than in the USA????
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is the joke of the century.
Let’s talk about Spain:
Unemployment of almost 25%.
Those are numbers we havn t seen in the USA since the great depression.
And youth unemployment in spain is almost 50%.
Please, do not make me laugh!
Didn’t yall just fired ur leftist government last weekend because the started a huge austerity program cutting healthcare, retirement benefits and other stuff like that?
Say hi to the indignant from me.
How about Italy where part-time Prime Minister & full time playboy Silvio got his ass handed to him after passing another huge austerity program gutting health & retirement benefit.
And how about Grece where riots have happened on a daily basis.
Even the UK & France has had its share of student riots recently.
Please, don’t even try me. You are not talking to an “uneducated american” as you put it earlier.
And yes, the USA doesn’t have a huge welfare system like Europe and it’s because we believe and getting a job… not just sitting on your ass and waiting for the government to take care of you.
We also believe in PRIVATE charity & churches charity to provide a safety net.
The USA is BY FAR AND AWAY the country with the largest amount of charities & volunteers taking care of our the less fortunate in our society.
European style social democracy is FAILING BIG TIME, that’s why u have 3 heads of governments got kicked to the curb in the past 2 weeks alone (Italy, Spain, Grece).
That’s why u have now the IMF basically governing your countries as if yall were 3 world countries.
The IMF in Europe. LMAO!
And u have the nerve to come after the USA.
While your economy is still in recession, we grew by 2.5% last quarter. That’s double the growth of Germany which seems to be the gold standard in Europe.
I HAVE A FULLY N*** PIX OF TI WHICH I FOUND FROM SOME GAY SITE. IF ANYONE WANT TO SEE IT SEND ME YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND I’LL IN BOX YOU SHORTLY. 😉 😉
Lmfaooo this POST Is Just A Hot MESS ! Sam You Have A New Low, Now You TWIST T.I.’s Words Into This buffoonery ! Take A SEAT !
Well said, I agree with T.I.! For example, I don’t think that Ratner should have resigned from producing the Oscars for saying “Nah, we don’t reherse that’s for fa**ots”! He clearly wasn’t directing it toward a gay person. Don’t get me wrong I think we should do our utmost not to purposely insult ppl based on race, religion, sexual orientation or what have you. Sometimes however, some of this stuff is taken way to far. Ppl who actually mean to inflect pain the interest groups don’t go after but someone who really had no intentions on hurting anyone they tear down! *side-eye*
#chooseyourbattleswiselyppl
I agree JP
Gays can be the biggest bully of them all. If u have any doubt just read any of Sam’s post about Rihanna.
Or look at the way Gaga’s monster went after Adele for her weight.
I am all for equality but Tracy was JOKING. That is a COMEDY ROUTINE. If u don’t like his humor, don’t go to the shows.
What I can t stand are the people who were not even in the show and didn t pay a dime to watch the show complaining more the the patron of he show themselves.
Anybody who’s been to a urban comedy how from Monique, Kat Williams, Chris Rock, Chris Tucker, Dave Chapelle knows that they go after EVERYBODY. Black, white, gay, women,man, jewish, christians…
It’s very raw & harsh..
All you have to do is watch BET’s comic view.
If it ain t for u, then stay home and and don’t go to their shows.
@MobWife
I agree 100%.
And because they fired Ratner, we won’t get to have Eddy Murphy host the show either which I was really looking froward to.
@MOBWIFE, I agree with you that Brett Ratner should not have resigned from his producer post.
But what I continue to find interesting is just how EASILY this s*** rolls off of their tongues: see Mel Gibson, see Michael Richards, see Isaiah Washington, see Brett Ratner…etc….”n*****,” “spick,” and “f*****” flow like water. I just don’t talk about people this way in my life.
“He clearly wasn’t directing it toward a gay person.” Right. He meant it in the insulting “that’s so gay” way, right? Okay.
And I will add, I am with you 100% on bullying be it in-person or on-line as well as hate crimes. However, it doesn’t just apply to the LGBT community. Anytime I see ppl posting hateful comments about young girls who may have made one mistake, calling them whores and telling them to kill themselves or the constant bullying many celebs receive by various media (TV, radio, magazines, blogs etc) harping on their past mistake(s) and telling them they don’t deserve to live, I feel equally outraged! No person regardless of their station in life deserves to be bullied and harassed by another.
sidenote:***These kids killing themselves (14-yr-old gay boy & the two 10-yr-old girls one black one white) is simply outrageous and to sad for words!
for the first time i’m 100% agree with TGJ
@TRUTHTELLER i’m from spain and i can say you know what you’re talking about. with the new govern, the gay rights are in dangerous. the unemployed is growing up, and the free healthcare is in dangerous too. dark days to europe democracy…. so sad
@ Truthteller,
You’er right. The appalling behavior exhibited by some gay people can be witnessed on this very site. Common bullying at its finest.
Wouldn’t our efforts be better spent educating ourselves, expanding opportunities for future gay generations, and supporting worthwhile causes such as a cure for H**.
Obnoxiously and pretentiously attacking and harassing others is not us defending ourselves…and makes us no better than hate mongers that attack gay people for whatever reason. This kind of behavior discredits any fight for equality and respect for one another.
@TRUTHTELLER, I agree with you about Tracy Morgan and comedy in general. Many comedians, regardless of color, can be raw and brutal. I would never enter any comedy arena with a thin skin. However, these facts STILL do not prevent Tracy from being criticized–even in that arena.
I LOVE “30 Rock” and I will always watch it but I agree with Tina Fey’s response to Tracy’s comments during his show about “killing his son if he found out he was gay.” She says: “I hope for his sake that Tracy’s apology will be accepted as sincere by his gay and lesbian co-workers at ’30 Rock’, without whom Tracy would not have lines to say, clothes to wear, sets to stand on, scene partners to act with, or a printed-out paycheck from accounting to put in his pocket.”
@TI IS AN UNDERCOVR
Everyone who goes to prison is stripped searched upon entry (U can read about it on-line or see it done in the movies). The picture you may have is probably one taken of him during that time and someone is trying to get some money from him about it. I doubt if T.I. is gay.
I luv Spain.
Do not get me wrong.
I just really don’t like when some European come after the USA and act as if Europe was paradise.
But Barcelona is still the most beautiful city in the western Atmosphere.
And their soccer team in ICONIC.
@TRUTHTELLER
You come across very mature and bring really good points across on this post. Really different to your stanning mode.
Well Tracy apologized indeed and good for him for doing so.
But how about Katy Perry?
Didn’t she write a song called “You’re so Gay” in which she was using the word gay as a put down toward her ex lover?
Where was the “thought police” then?
I’m offended by that song and i demand an apology.
lol
i’m not agree with homophobic and racist jokes, i’m with sam at this point.
@truthteller i’m from valencia near barcelona, but i’m a barça supporter 😉
@JP
Most gays are victimized because we are perceived as weak and passive
As long as most gays accept being treated badly that’s all they’ll get
That’s why I think aggressive gays that bully and attack those who attack us are also necessary.
@truthteller
What you don´t f****** get is that even with all those current difficulties people still live better in Europe. You can´t die cos you get ill if you have no money. Do you get it? There are so many studies about this, search for them. Look which countries have the best life quality.
There are way more poor people in the USA. WE all saw what happened with Katrina for example. That can´t happen here. If there is a tragedy, people know they are going to be helped. Some Spanish people were in New Orleans at that time and when they could return they told in tv it was unbelievable how bad things work over there (specially “surprise surprise” to poor people).
But look, English is not my mother tongue so I don´t feel like talking to you more about such important things.
This is about some retarded American rappers. Going to sleep now
LMAO @ Misimpartial
Well, all Rihanna fans are not brainless pre-t*** girl like Sam tries to make it seem.
I ma try to be more productive tho’ and not always fall into Sam’ fanbase word traps.
@PAU
Barça supporter here too LOL. I´m from Santander.
No me digas tu que no tengo razón cuando digo que la gente en Europe vive mejor y tiene la vida más asegurada que en América. Vamos que no hace falta más que mirar las listas esas que salen todos los años de los paises con mejor calidad de vida.
Oye y tu… del PP? Porque hoy en día Valencia es como decir PP… casi. Yo soy de izquierdas total
@TRUTHTELLER
I agree with you with almost everything you said. But not on the Barca bit I hate them I think they are the worlds biggest cheats.
hola @johnvidal la cosa aqui esta fatal, llevo 2 años preparandome oposiciones de primaria y veo que me voy a pasar otro año sin trabajo….
aqui la gente es muy facha y se creen que fabra es dios y les va a solucionar la vida. yo evidentemente soy de izquierdas xo no voto al psoe tampoco 😉
@TRUTHTELLER, Katy Perry? Isn’t, and never will be, on my radar. The POINT of Tina Fey’s comment is not about the apology. It’s about the position that Tracy finds himself in in relationship to the gay and lesbian people who make it possible for HIM to “have lines to say, clothes to wear, sets to stand on, scene partners to act with, or a printed-out paycheck from accounting to put in his pocket.”
THIS is the point.
@missimpartial barça rules the world LOL
@Johnvidal
Sorry but nothing can help u from a Category 5 hurricane when ur city is below water level.
Also, we all already know that Bush was the worst president in the history of the USA. He fail our economy, he failed our military & he failed our society.
But sorry,t there is still ONLY 1 COUNTRY ON EARTH where u can be the son of a Muslim African immigrant & a poor white single mom, with a middle name Hussein like the dictator we just took down in Iraq & last name that people can barely pronounce that sounds 1 letter away from the public enemy #1 & STILL STILL BECOME PRESIDENT BEFORE YOU EVEN HIT 50 YEARS OLD.
What defines the USA is not if you’re born poor or not, but u re ability to rise from the bottom of the bottom to the top of the top.
There’s a reason why generation of immigrants after generation of immigrant still chose to come the the USA over any other countries. (including so many European leaders in art, industries & science)
THERE IS ONLY 1 AMERICAN DREAM.
I’ve never head of the European dream… sorry.
@PAU
WOW Eso está bien, un valenciano de izquierdas! jaja todavía existimos algunos en España
@JOHNVIDAL, I am American and I agree with you 100% about the educational, political, social, economic, and health care systems here in the United States.
@PAU
No they are being helped to rule the world they buy referees and cheat during games. Used to think that they are great but not anymore.
@MISSPARTIAL pay HOMAGE to the team that YOUR SIDE ARSENAL has tried to COPY its ENTIRE STYLE FROM!!!
LOL@ MISSPARTIAL MAD CAUSE A*** STAY GETTING MOLLY-WHOOPED BY BARCA EVERY YEAR IN THE CL!!!!
@truthteller inmigration is starting in europe, there are so many musulman churches in my city. and it’s not true that poor people can’t grow up and get a better life
@truthteller
Oh please what a buch of b*******. It´s not the hurricane, it´s the people who were left there (poor people, not rich people)
And then, to America decides to go South American immigrants, same to Europe come African immigrants. I mean, come on now. Poor countries migrate to rich countries. Not only the USA darling. In fact Spain has had such a huge problem with that for the last 10 or 20 years. It´s not only mexicans going to USA you know
Well, now I´m done. Good night
@missimpartial
Have you lost your mind? Barça dominates huge way. The rest can´t stand a chance. Maybe you are talking about Real Madrid when you refer to cheating and all that
@bitchicantevenspellwelfare
Thank U I like when people are honest and don´t defend their country just for defending. For example you want to know something about my country that disgusts me? Toros
I had the..misfortune to come across gays – white gays.
Initially, I acted on reflex. I recoiled, then wanted NOTHING to do with them – even going WELL out of my way NOT to talk to them! But, I then reasoned: ” do not to judge”.
..Well, my initial suspicions were right, IN MY EXPERIENCE..”gays” (white) are T-H-E MOST RACIST OF ALL! They’re T-H-E most obnoxious, bitter, contemptuous of those who don’t share their beliefs, stridently class-conscious of any socio-economic group I’ve yet associated with – IN ANY CAPACITY..!!!
Instead of worrying about what T.I. or Tracy Morgan, or anyone, for that matter, says, I think “Homosexuals” have FAR-more to worry about: “Eternity..!!”
..You can’t “make it up as you go along”! And if those words, thoughts, ideas and rules you find too..”strict”, they’re so for a reason.
What can you say about a group of people who blatantly break one of God and Nature’s most explicitly written rules? And it IS written, in THIS case without ambiguity, hesitation, nor regard for the differing groups that human beings will inevitable parse themselves into, whether by choice, or by force:
“(Leviticus 18:22). “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them”
..In said aforementioned sentences homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin: A SEXUAL PERVERSION. The Child Of God can NOT “suit to fit” God’s word..!!
X,Y,”and Z”
@johnvidal follow me on twitter: thepaupreston
i support the gay rights and this jokes offend me
@X Y and Z i’m really sorry for you, you’re words are so ignorant….
@JOHNVIDAL AND @WHUT
No way Barca cheat and always dive, try to get players off and are mostly backed by the UEFA. So I don’t care what you say. As for@WHUT Barca was not the only teams to play like that ever heard of Brazil. As for Arsenal they are don’t need to copy and if they are so s*** why is your team always trying to buy our players??
@MissImpartial Glory Glory Man United is the best team in the world!
@ CUNTINA PIGUILERA,
I’m sorry. I utterly disagree with your reasoning. It’s unacceptable to think that this kind of behavior is acceptable.
Some gay people have a lot of growing up to do.
T.I needs to sit the f*** down with his scrawny ass…ugh. He’s a dumbass anyway. His arrest record is proof of that.
According to his theory, if someone’s against him being black they should have the right to be against it in peace.
What an imbecile he is.
@MISSPARTIAL AS OF NOW your club is a FEEDER club.Thats why so many of your players are sold each year! You NEED to fire that JOKE of a manager WENGER and then you WILL BE TAKEN more seriously in the game boo!! Barca also doesn’t play like Brazil do!!! Barca are about the collective! the entire team must gel and work hard for one another ON AND OFF the ball!! Brazil is more about those moments of INDIVIDUAL flair to get the job done. Barca has that individual flair too dont get me wrong but its the team effort THAT MAKE THEM GREAT!! Its why Messi looks so s***** for ARGENTINA!!
@NANA YAW
Not this season though. ManCity is getting to you.
I just checked the CIA factbook:
Poverty Rate in Spain: 20%
Poverty Rate USA: 15%
Also, I didn t say there is no upward social mobility in Europe. All I said is that it is a pillars of the american society.
As for immigration, there are a lot of immigrant from Africa in the USA.
Matter of fact,the USA the largest Muslim population in the west.
And many Africans come to the USA because it is so much easier to become an american citizen and to integrate our society.
We don’t have stupid anti-headscarf laws like the french.
We don’t have xenophobic laws again Muslim minaret like Switzerland.
We don’t have blood-only citizenship requirement like the Germans.
We don’t have far right racist parties in government like in Norway.
And on and on and on…
I hope someone rapes him in prison by the way… Is he still in?
@RHI RHI,
co-sign
@WHUT
First of all Wenger is one of the most respected managers and secondly Barca did try and get him. At least Arsenal is not in financial problems unlike yours and needs to tap up players. Crying to the press as how they can’t afford anyone and getting their players involved. Not classy at all. As for Barca six years ago no one was even mentioning them. As for Brazil they do play together have you seen how they pass the ball to each other knowing where the other one is without looking.
@truthteller the economic situation in europe is worst than 4 years before. and the inmigration from africa started a few years ago and it’s sorry but you’re words are true but i hope time changes the things
i love usa 😉
@MISSPARTIAL Your club has money ONLY because WENGER hoards its from YEAR TO YEAR, after SELLING ALL YOUR STAR PLAYERS and NEVER BUYING ANYONE OF QUALITY TO REPLACE !!! Look at what happened this year with that HORRID start you had to the season. HE ONLY rushed to buy ultimately SUBPAR replacements after selling Nasri and Cesc after getting HIS ASS HANDED to him by UNTIED!!! The LONGER you make EXCUSES for him the LONGER you will go without ANY SILVERWARE HUN!!!
@WHUT
I have to say I couldn’t stop laughing at your hoarding comment, But you do have do agree he always brings out the best players. Where do you live?? Which English team do you support if any???
THATGRAPEJUICE IS BECOMING THE ONLINE FOX NEWS
@JP, when you said that “gay people are some of the biggest bullies on the planet and very cruel as well.” This is very true. However, I ask you WHY this is the case? It certainly does not have anything to do with power. It certainly does not have to do with the backing of our overall societies. It certainly does not have to do with the backing of the church. It certainly does not have to do with the backing of many of our families.
I think @CUNTINA PIGUILERA is right to suggest that ” aggressive gays that bully and attack those who attack us are also necessary.”
This is just being real.
What do you suggest? Simply turn the other cheek when we are attacked? Forgive those who kill us, dismember us, or legislatively make us second class citizens? How should we respond to mental, physical, and social attacks?
I don’t support ANY English teams!! I DONT LIKE the EPL!!! IT has the POPULARITY but it doesn’t have the ORGANIZATION ON THE FIELD I like to see when watching teams play!! Its fast paced but far too many LONG BALLS for my LIKING!! Live in the States!
@MissImpartial six years without a silverware. That’s an outstanding feat! Yes In Arsene We Trust!
@BitchIcantevenspellwelfare
Wait a minute dear! Don’t twist my words around to suit your needs! I simply don’t believe Ratner meant to offend gay ppl period. I doubt if he was even thinking about homosexuals when he made that statement! The terms “fa**ot & sissy” were words I remember ppl using to describe feminine males back in the day. They never used the terms to refer to homosexual males at all. I am not justifying the use of the terms, i’m just clarifying the context in which I remember hearing those terms used. As I stated, I don’t think that anyone so ever go out of their way to purposely insult another.
Also, I think you are wrong for stringing these various men together under one biased heading! Gibson & Washington were definitely directing their comments toward a particular person and/or group. Mel Gibson’s “Kike” Jew remark to the officer who arrested him and Washington’s gay slur toward a fellow actor are quite different from Ratner’s comment! If Ratner is racist, sexist, or homophobic I couldn’t tell because I don’t know anything about him. I’m just speaking on that one comment!
@WHUT
So you watch the LaLiga??
@NANA YAW
Lol. You should better concentrate on ManCity. The tight might be turning.
@WHUT the EPL is the best and most competitive league in the world! #UNDISPUTABLE FACT!
Yus La Liga gives me LIFE!!! CL too of course!!!
@TruthTeller
November 25, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Well Tracy apologized indeed and good for him for doing so.
But how about Katy Perry?
Didn’t she write a song called “You’re so Gay” in which she was using the word gay as a put down toward her ex lover?
Where was the “thought police” then?
I’m offended by that song and i demand an apology.
lol
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IKR!…..LOL 🙂
Yet ALL the EPL teams STRUGGLING FOR THEIR LIVES to make it out the group stages in the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE?!! GURL BYE!!
@WHUT
But in the EPL there are more teams competing and anyone can win a game where as in Spain there are only Real and Barca competing for the title.
Gurl put Barcelona and Real Madrid in the EPL they would DOMINATE too!!! They are just the two BEST teams in the world RIGHT NOW. They’d DOMINATE in any LEAGUE!
How the f*** am I talking soccer on TGJ tho!!! This cant be life!!
WHO CARES?? 😕
I actually RESPECT Homophobic Opinion.
But i ill NEVER in my life stop being ARROGANT & Let someone tell me how to s*** on the gerlz. 🙂
La Liga is boring. So damn slow!
@MOBWIFE, I’m not twisting your words around at all. I agreed with you that Ratner should not have resigned but I didn’t explain why.
He should’ve have resigned because people should not be fired for saying what they mean. If the word “f*****” is offensive to some people, so be it. The person who says it should be simply allowed to own it & move on. No apologies. No unnecessary press conferences. He meant to say “f*****” and he shouldn’t lose his job over it. Now, this does not mean he is free from criticism. & if this criticism leads to him losing his job, well….
Now, in terms of people in Hollywood that I mentioned who used derogatory terms for people in various locations, I do not make a distinction between whether or not these derogatory terms were leveled at any individual person or a group of people. This distinction does not matter to me–it’s ALL disgusting. However, if there is a difference between leveling a derogatory term at an individual vs. a group people for you, cool.
But no words were ever twisted.
@X,Y,”and Z”
“Pez” Hilton, Harvey Levin, Jane Velez-Mitchell ….ummm, shall I continue? I’m not against anyone but some of these ppl are simply disgusting!
Speaking of disgusting did you see what the American Musc Awards pulled on Sunday? Did you notice that the one category they refused to announce on the air was the Best Male R&B act? Of course this was the only category to have nothing but black men in it! *side – freaking – eye*
BITCHICANTEVENSPELLWELFARE,
That’s the problem…Gays aren’t attacking the groups that rightfully deserve it. Some gays are anxious to attack anyone whose beliefs do not align with their own.
For instance, hyper sensitive Beyonce fans (mostly gay males) who maliciously attacked Keri Hilson’s twitter page. How is that any different than a group of heterosexuals cyber bullying a gay person? It’s very difficult to “play” the victim one minute and then participate in barbaric unjust behavior the next.
It’s one thing to defend yourself intelligently with tact and maturity…it’s another thing to obnoxiously and condescendingly attack others who do not share our beliefs. The two are not synonymous. TI’s point is very valid and holds truth.
Misleading title. He said people have the right to be gay in peace and people should be able to disagree in peace. So what? Its called an opinion no matter how ignorant the opinion is.
I would hate to be gay and in his family
@JP, I am feeling you on so many levels you wouldn’t believe it. But comparing gay male Beyonce fan’s online dragging of, for example, Britney, Katy, Keri Hilson & Rihanna fans is a completely different world than the real wold. It just is. They are all rich. None of these women need our stanning. They do not need our protection. That’s why we always see them together posing and smiling together.
But in the real world, I ask you, who should we be rightfully attacking? Who is protecting us?
@BitchIcantevenspellwelfare
However, if there is a difference between leveling a derogatory term at an individual vs. a group people for you, cool.
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Again, you appear to be “misinterpreting” my words! I never stated that there is a “difference between leveling a derogatory term at an individual vs. a group people” —> EVER! I said there is a difference in directing a comment at a particular person and/or group (see Michael Richards, Mel Gibson & I. Washington) and making a general remark that was never intended to be a derogatory statement leveled at anyone person and/or group (see Ratner)! It was a poor choice of words but I don’t believe he intended to offend gay ppl by his remark!
BITCHICANTEVENSPELLWELFARE,
Beyonce fans are just an example. And regardless, the situation I described is no different than a gay person being attacked online by a large number of heterosexuals without just cause. A person’s socio-economic status should not determine if bullying is warranted or not. What you’re describing is not the same thing as what TI is describing. TI’s comment explicitly communicates what he intended. In no way is TI saying that gay people should be abused and attacked without defending themselves. He is speaking of gays that bully and aggressively shut down others with different beliefs…but then we turn around and victimize ourselves any opportunity we get.
In real life it’s very common for gay “cliques” to bully and start altercations with others. I’m not saying this is something that all gay people participate in…but I’m no stranger to obnoxious behavior being exhibited by gay people. So gay people are not without fault.
When a gay group of friends jump a single gay individual in a gay club…where are these heterosexual hate monger? Are they starting these altercations as well?
No one is without fault, but it’s really disturbing to me that some gay people are not more conscious of their behavior and decisions.
he is right…..people should be able to say what they f*** they want, without people getting all worked up….
theres a double standards when it to the gay community..they want equal rights as a straight person, but get offended if somebody say anything negative…
my thing is..people needs to stop being so damn sensitive..if ur gay be proud..but dont to push it down my throat
Wow It Just Got Real Up In This Mofo!!!!
@MOBWIFE, “I said there is a difference in directing a comment at a particular person and/or group (see Michael Richards, Mel Gibson & I. Washington) and making a general remark that was never intended to be a derogatory statement leveled at anyone person and/or group (see Ratner)!”
There is no way that the derogatory term “f*****” and “general” can exist in the same universe. “F******” are no longer a “bundle of sticks (14th Century),” they are now negatively proscribed as a group of people (homosexuals- 1914). Your logic simply cannot hold.
Again, he was using “f*****” as the “that is so gay” disgusting slang, which is the equivalent of saying that gay=bad.
Repeat: Your words were NOT misrepresnted.
I don’t think gay people are anymore bullies in an average day to day life than straight people.
But the lead gay political organizations are definitely bullies. They are just ready to take away the job of anybody who disagree with them and they love themselves a good witch hunt.
kiss me
ive seen many queens who stans for folks go off, bashing other folks, ..the majority of the time the people they are bashing are straight..
the gays can be very obnoxious and vicious also…so why the f*** are they always the victim?
fat people gets bullied, black people, ugly people, mexicans..every damn body gets bullied to the point where they kill themselves..
my point is, dont ask for equal rights, and get mad if ur treated the same as the fat straight kid in school..
@JP “He is speaking of gays that bully and aggressively shut down others with different beliefs…but then we turn around and victimize ourselves any opportunity we get.”
To be very honest with you, you are giving T.I. WAY more credit than he deserves. You are, intellectually, far beyond him–this is a fact.
JP, as I said before, I have no problem with T.I.’s opinions. My problem with T.I. is that he believes that people’s opinions should not be criticized. If you read every post I’ve made here, that’s what I’ve continuously said. Your questions are far more interesting than his.
YOU are talking about the ways in which gay and lesbian people treat each other–this is powerful. This inquiry is much more interesting and important than his s***. This is what you said: ” In real life it’s very common for gay “cliques” to bully and start altercations with others. I’m not saying this is something that all gay people participate in…but I’m no stranger to obnoxious behavior being exhibited by gay people. So gay people are not without fault. When a gay group of friends jump a single gay individual in a gay club…where are these heterosexual hate monger? Are they starting these altercations as well?”
This is very powerful. This is where the REAL work lies. Let’s email each other to talk about this real critical work.
Touch my d*** as I moan 🙂
what also pisses me off are people who claim they want equal rights, but quick to bring up race when it benefits them..
ive seem many times people say..my fav is the first black woman to do this…or because im black im going to support this black person..even if stuff they put out is not worth s***..
and wonder why other races doesnt respect us….
my point is, dont scream u want equal rights, when ur a racist, or a bully ur damn self
I think T.I. is an intelligent individual. However, his argument is completely ridiculous. The problem is not having a difference of opinion, the problem is when that opinion causes or supports discrimination on an individual based solely on their sexual preference. I do believe that people are entitled to have their own opinions regarding homosexuality, however, that opinion should be kept to ones self if it sprouts hate and inequality. I wonder if he feels the same way about racism.
why do people take these celebrities opinions as gospel?
or get offended when these celebs say what they feel?
umm who the hell is looking up to T.I as a role model
dude is in and out of jail…so why the hell would anybdy take his comments personally..
i dont believe the “because hes black i have to support him b*******”..dude is not a good role model period.. his words dont mean s*** to me
@RATEDX(BASIC BROADS FAVS), I’m begging you not to do that. You are attempting to create an oppressive blanket that spreads across the words fat, ugly, f*****, kike, wet back, n*****, d***, “it” as referred to transgendered people, sand n*****, etc…..”
So you want everyone to suck it up. Be brave. Forget about the intellectual, social, philosophical, economic, and racist histories that have made ALL of these terms possible?
Be smarter. Please, be smarter. Think about how oppression has been made possible historically. Think about what oppression has looked like throughout the world. What do they have in common?
@BitchIcantevenspellwelfare re: November 25, 2011 at 9:38 pm —
“Think about what oppression has looked like throughout the world. What do they have in common?”
I hope I’m very wrong, I hope I’m misunderstanding you, but are you equating “being black” and “being” gay/homosexual..?!!
Because, for the record, the “black experience”, whether it be in the diaspora, or on the continent has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common with nasty, stinky men wanting to touch other nasty, hairy, stink men.
If you’d meant something totally different, then kindly disregard – forward to the circular file, or simply “return to sender”.
X,Y,”and Z”
I agree with TI even though I do not like rap music, rappers know what is wrong with our society and one of them is the evil of homosexuality.
I am with you brotha! Say it loud and proud. Homosexual deviants do not deserve any protection or special rights, what the deserve is a quick trip to the gas chamber. Homosexuality has destroyed our country and society and especially the African American community which has been destroyed by the ravages of homosexuality.
America is heading down the wrong direction ever since this demonic act of homosexuality became legal years ago. And only brave black men like TI can hopefully wake people up about the demonic evilness of these sinners and how much damage they have plagued society with.
homosexuality is a cancer that must be destroyed PERIOD.
@TRUTH TELLER,,,,PREACK, PREACH , PREACH
yOU RAN THE BOARD, AND FUNNY HOW MANY
STILL FEELS LIKE MANY WHO STAN FOR RIHANNA
STILL HAVE THE MILK SCENT ON THEIR BREATH
AND DIAPER PRINT ON THEIR BOOTY, THEY HAD
BETTER ASK SOMEBODY,,,,,,PEACE
well if fat joe is correct, and the hip hop world is controlled by the gay mafia (which let’s be real, this probably isn’t true because the gays have much better taste), then t.i. is f*****.
He didnt say anything wrong here. Its an opinion, and everyone is allowed to have one. Just because hes famous doesnt mean he cant speak his mind. Freedom of speech people.
We all have the right to our own opinion and we all have the right to criticize each other. But just because you dont agree with someone doesnt make them wrong.
Suck my f****** penis 🙂
@X,Y,”AND Z”, I will never ask people to look at “the black experience” & compare it to “the GLBT experience,” so the question of rights based legislation can brought into the equation.
Black people and GLBT people have different histories. When it comes to rights-based legislation, I don’t like white GLBT people to pattern their legislation after raced-based legislation because, personally, I have found that many white GLBT people support racist agendas, racist regimes, & do not come to the aid of black/ and other gay folks of color, in a crisis.
However, when you say: “Because, for the record, the “black experience”, whether it be in the diaspora, or on the continent has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common with nasty, stinky men wanting to touch other nasty, hairy, stink men.”
This makes me think that your ideology is coming from a limited perspective that refuses to acknowledge multiple perspectives on black sexuality.
You sound very homophobic here. & to think that you cannot think of oppression cross oppressive realities makes your proclamations seem unreasonable.
@SMELL THE TEA, you are OFFICIALLY dumb. Po’ Thang. There is always night school.
*bumps Rihanna’s ‘Where Have You Been*
@DOLLAR$IGN$KILLS, so you are going to be CONSCIOUSLY dumb too? It’s one thing when you don’t know when you’re being dumb. But it’s another when this has been already been discussed on this post. Here we go again:
“This has absolutely nothing to do with T.I. having an opinion nor his ability, or right, to express his opinion. This is not a First Amendment issue.
The issue is T.I. believes that people should be free from criticism for expressing an opinion.
Freedom of Speech DOES NOT EQUAL Freedom from Criticism.”
Got it?
Yall are get deep in this joint.
i have nothing against gau if you are gay you do you,but they are so sensitive,they are a walking contratiction they claim that this is america you should have the freedom to do whatever and that is true,.but other people have the right to be against it too because they have the right to do so,just like how the gay have a right to be gay…..that,s what T.i is saying but fu-cking retards on here is twisting is works try so hard to make something out of nothing….and that is what he is talking about when how he says gay are sensitive,gay people need to just chill out,and stop nitpicking everything to start something….and anyone of them not going to buy T.Is album again because of this needs some serious mental help,and that would be sensitive on the highest level….because he didn’t diss gay people in this comment and i co-sing you BitchIcantevenspellwelfare.
There are TWO distinct “gayness/homosexuals/homosexuality”.
1.) The domain of white males. It’s obviously dominated by them. This “gayness” shields them from all that “being a white male” brings with it: inequity, racism, slavery, colonialism, “skism-ism and prism-skism”. This shields their true nature – they’re wolves in sheep’s clothing – truculent and pernicious to their very core thus true to their very nature!
2.) Black gays/homosexuals are wholly-owned, and manipulated by “white” gayness. Turn on your television during any political rally, and/or during any Halloween parade/festivities and you’ll see black gay males out-front, with their white puppet-masters closely following – pulling the strings that serve THEIR dark nefarious ends.
To be a gay black man is to unknowingly accept defeat. To be a gay black man is to be “complete” in your emasculation! Are you gay by choice? Are you gay because any “proper” role model was missing during your formative, impressionable years? You’re seen as sickly and diseased – in body and soul – wherever you turn – AND RIGHTFULLY SO..!!
To be a gay black man places you squarely in the crosshairs: you’re used to further the political agenda of whiteness. You’re childlike in that stead. You’re often shouted-down by your masters. And, closer to home, that same “master” uses black women to cement your emasculation in place. “Hollywood”, the bastion of all that is “gay”, has a profound impact upon our interactions and self-imagery. Didn’t we ALL have 25-years of Oprah Winfrey’s boot across our figurative throats, gay or not?
I don’t have answers, only observations. The first thing to know about how to defeat a trap is to know that it IS there to begin with.
X,Y,”and Z” — OUT..!!
There is nothing ‘gay’ about homosexuality. It is an unhappy lifestyle that must be repelled by decent normal people. It is a good thing to see that African Americans are finally getting it and are not going to be pushed around by gay Nazis. Did you know that the Nazi Party was all dominated by homosexuals? Yes they were. Thanks to demonic homosexuals 6 million jews were executed. The bible has foretold what would happened when evil is celebrated and protected. We must stop this evil at once.
That is why advocate the death penalty for homosexuality as it is a treasonous act against the US constitution. And thank god many of you African American god fearing decent people have joined the good fight against these oppressors of the Fourth Homosexual Reich. Homosexuals want to destroy our society, we must get rid of them before they get rid of us, just like how we got rid of the Nazis in Europe, we can still pray for hope here in America.
GOD BLESS.
@BitchIcantevenspellwelfare re: November 25, 2011 at 10:23, 10:51 pm —
“& to think that you cannot think of oppression cross oppressive realities makes your proclamations seem unreasonable.”
What..?!!!!!!
There’s no crossing said “oppressive realities” because no such tangent exists. If you think there can be such a “crossing”, which apparently you do, then you’ve placed “blackness and gayness” upon the very same plane, and now seek to “bridge” the two!
(re: 10:51 pm) “Freedom of Speech DOES NOT EQUAL Freedom from Criticism.”
K, so what’s your beef, or “criticism” of T.I.’s statement/thoughts? Essentially, he said that homosexuals are “too sensitive”, and used a hilarious Tracy Morgan joke to further the point. At no time did I read where T.I. incited a riot, or hate, against homosexuals. Your reactions, so far, only proves and validates what T.I. is saying. I think you’re criticizing T.I. for actually saying what he said, but HOW he said it, yes?
..In THAT case, to preserve your delicate and highly stylized sensibilities, where does it end? Me removing “F**” from my vocabulary, or “That’s Gay” to denote/define what’s “bad”, “irregular”, or “out of wack”?
..Where does it end? With me accepting that marriage can be between two men, or two women? Because if it does, you’ll have a LOOOOONG wait for me to adjust my vernacular to as not to offend your “highly enriched” sensibilities..!!
X,Y,”and Z” — OUT..!!
@X, Y And Z
Amen brother!
These perverts all they want is validation of evil and condemnation of all that is good and wholesome… that is why they made it a ‘hate crime’ to kill a homosexual, which shouldn’t be a hate crime, let alone a crime as that is what we are normally programmed to do with our instincts, just like if you were to witness a r*** of a woman of a child your gut instinct is to kill that evil person, that is a natural response, bu the homosexual lobby wants us normal people to not adhere to our normal instincts so that they can recruit our children into that lifestyle they are already doing it as we speak in the schools.
I am sorry but the homosexuals have pushed as too far and very soon that natural instinct to punish evil and homosexuality will come out in full force trust me.
@bitchcantevenspellwelfare….
first of all you calling people dumb for stating their opinions, makes your points less valid…
X,Y,”AND Z”- wow. You, Frances Cress Welsing, and Eldridge Clever will probably have a great time talking about how the “f******,” “dykes,” “transgendered people,” and “socialist” have gotten together and brought down the greatness of Africa and, in turn, America over dinner.
You said: “There’s no crossing said “oppressive realities” because no such tangent exists.” Of course there is. African-American gay and lesbian people exist: fact. I truly do not understand why you would deny this rudimentary fact. Just like there are Mexican lesbians. Lebanese drag kings.
You need to send your hatred through a sieve and tell us what your True issue is with Black GLBT people. It’s quite entertaining. Just like when I read the white supremacist’s work on The National Alliance’s website, I learned you are close kin who cannot be separated.
Now, I’ve stated countless times what my beef is with T.I. Here it is again:
“This has absolutely nothing to do with T.I. having an opinion nor his ability, or right, to express his opinion. This is not a First Amendment issue.
The issue is that T.I. believes that people should be free from criticism for expressing an opinion.
Freedom of Speech DOES NOT EQUAL Freedom from Criticism.”
Clear?
@RATEDX(BASIC BROADS FAVS), if you think that ALL opinions contributed on this post are equal, all I can say is “how egalitarian of you.” But the facts the remain, the s*** that I called dumb is dumb & I make no apology for that that.
Think back to the person you are defending: T.I. He wants us to champion the “American” spirit & the American takes absolutely no prisoners.
Again, that s*** is dumb.
*But the facts THAT remain*
Glad to finally see a comment section where people are actually discussing things instead of getting into stupid Stan wars.
I don’t agree with every comment made and I think some of u need to get back on your meds but I respect everyone’s opinion. Including TIs. But I will put my money where my mouth is and NOT be buying any of his stuff. And THAT’S how you deal with that. Lol.
using being gay as an excuse to bash people, is like me using being black as an excuse to bash white people..
plain and simple…..
if u dont like gay people and u dont support their lifestyles..thats ur opinion..theres nothing wrong saying how u feel..
I always find it amusing when people who don’t like homosexuals get themselves all worked up. The thing is this. Gay people been around since the beginning of time. After u talk ur hate speech for years guess what? You will die. An guess what. Dudes will prolly be having b*** s** and girls licking each others carpet when u croak. And life will continue to go on. And u will be where? In the dirt. Rotting. I hope some of you truly find better things todo with your time here instead of wasting it on a crusade that isnt going to change. Lol.
@ RatedX
Hear, hear!
Most of us normal men DO NOT agree with the selfish p** style way of living that these deviant perverts CHOSE to live. But hopefully A*** will take care of this problem so that only decent NORMAL people can remain to multiply the earth, not molesting children, raping and groping sleeping or perverting society with a deranged sickness like homosexuality.
@bitchcantevenspellwelfare..
im defending t.i? really?
im defending the rights of people who are entiltled to say what the f*** they want….
ive already stated t.i opinions shouldnt mean s*** to anybody since hes not a good role model……
again, ur calling people dumb and stupid, on a post where we suppose to watch what we say to others..so ur points are not valid
@ Hellen
You have been brainwashed by the gay Nazis who want to destroy our country. You remind of those Jews who instead of adhering to their gut feeling they sided with HITLER … guess what happened to them when they sided with that PERVERTED homosexual? They were gassed. Homosexuals have an anti-human, anti-family agenda and they must be stopped at all costs.
its like me saying we shouldnt degrade women..and then call a female a b**** because she doesnt agree with me….
@ RatedX
Well SAID!
These perverts cannot think straight, it takes a lot of patience not to punch these punks to the ground. All I can do is pray that god will take care of this sickness and get rid off these perverted homosexual demons who had caused almost of the world’s genocides and atrocities.
@ BITCHICANTEVENSPELLWELFARE,
my email is jcpaylor@gmail.com. you make some valid points.
@RATEDX(BASIC BROADS FAVS), yes, you defended him. Here it is:
RATEDX(BASIC BROADS FAVS)
November 25, 2011 at 9:02 pm
he is right…..people should be able to say what they f*** they want, without people getting all worked up….
theres a double standards when it to the gay community..they want equal rights as a straight person, but get offended if somebody say anything negative…
my thing is..people needs to stop being so damn sensitive..if ur gay be proud..but dont to push it down my throat.
It’s cool because i love how you let us know so many levels. However, THIS is a defense
i have nothing against gay people…its the double standards b******* that pisses me off..
what about that fat kid that gets bullied at school and kills his/her self….i dont see people getting all worked up over it
@bitchcanteven
so me agreeing to what he said means im defending him?..
how can i be defending him if i also said, people shouldnt give two f**** about what t.i said..since hes not a good role model
again, i was defending his rights to say what the f*** he wants to say, not defend him as a person
The majority of you on here are very, very ill-informed about gay issues. So many of you claim that LGBT persons are also bullies; therefore, they shouldn’t be playing the victim. But, might I remind you that this minority group is treated by our government and institutions as lesser people? Are they deserving of being denied the same rights as EVERY OTHER American citizen? Last I checked, bullying a superstar is light years different than attacking a person because he/she was born gay. If the LGBT group blew off rude and offensive comments to stop being “sensitive,” then this type of hate speech comes off as acceptable and it NEVER should be acceptable in ANY situation.
And to the people on here that don’t “approve” of gay people: What is wrong with you?! There is nothing there for you to “approve”. If a child is born with Down Syndrome, do you approve of that? Do approve of Asians? African Americans? People are born gay: you don’t approve of it; you accept it!
@bitchcantevenspell
u called this person dumb earlier, just because he/she said people are allowed to say what they want..
so callin people dumb is ok in ur book?
@SSSS
B******* son.
You are not born homosexual, much like a p********, a r*****, a racist, or a wife-beater is born with those depravities either, soon you will have all sorts of evil being normailzed.
But I have hope in our young generation and in people like XYZ and XRATED that they will see through the b******* and not give in to the homosexual nazi’s demand of conformity to their evil demonic lifestyle. But its a good thing to know that homosexuals only live until their 40’s on average, but that is enough time to do quite a bit of damage.
Hopefully our government would one day prosecute homosexuals and send them to the gas chamber for their unconstitutional, treasonous acts.
@RATEDX
Don’t bother yourself anymore with these homosexual filth, they don’t deserve any explanations from normal decent people.
gay people are the minorities ?
since the f*** when. when yall run every damn them now…..
i could understand 10, yrs ago yes..if u were gay it was an issue..but now..please..
@RatedX
Your comments are intelligible. And look up the definition of minority group…. I’m sure it’s not “when yall run every damn them now….” or whatever that means. And what do you mean it’s not an issue? How can you not understand that the LGBT group, by LAW, is the only group of law-biding American citizens that are denied the same rights as us?
This Post Is Definitely A HOT Mess !
SMELL THE TEA
November 26, 2011 at 1:03 am
@SSSS
……..”Hopefully our government would one day prosecute homosexuals and send them to the gas chamber for their unconstitutional, treasonous acts.”………………
_____________________________________________________________
WTH ! No Everyone Is ENTITLED To Their Opinion But To Wish That On People That Obviously Didn’t CHOOSE To Be The Way they Are Is An OUTRAGE ! This Is Disturbingly SAD And I Think @SMELL THE TEA May Need MENTAL/Psychological HELP !
Smell the tea cannot be taken serious. I’m laughing at these posts. Clearly someone needs to put the meth pipe down.
Oh @SMELL THE TEA is simply FURIOUS!!! She is giving me vibrant offspring of rabid inbreeding teas DOWNE!!!!!
T.I. comments are no different than someone that supports racism or anitsemitism.
and DEATH @ a name like SMELL THE TEA’S, yet trying to going the F*** OFF on teh GAYS!!!! WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS FOOLING IN HERE!!!
@SSSS
let me break something down for u..i dont know u, ur are not paying my bills..so ur comments about my sounding dumb..doesnt mean s*** to me….
gays are not the minorities..not when they get a parade, not when they get more worldwide attention, if one of them kills themselves or get calls a f*****…
poor people are the minorities, fat people, black people, mexican..so on…are minorities in this country…
Hate in no form promotes peace, i’m glad ‘m not related to him
if t.i said all gay people are go hell, or its wrong to be gay..than i would be outrage…
but saying people are entitled to say they dont support gay lifestyles..and have the right to say how they feeel, that i agree with..
if people wants to get all worked up over somebodys else opinion…than boo u have more issues than being gay.
im done with this conversation
@RATEDX
First, thanks for letting me know I don’t pay your bills. I wouldn’t have known otherwise.
I seriously can’t believe people keep referencing overweight people in this conversation. Since when are fat people considered a minority group in America? Also, correct me if I’m wrong, just because pride parades exist does not discount the fact that they are minorities. Even though African Americans have black history month, I still consider them a minority.
And just so we are clear, there are different types of minority groups in this country: racial/ethnic, gender/sexual orientation, religious, and so on. You could at least Google it.
I wanna lynch me some blacks. String ’em right up, you now. Ha, ha, ha…how funny is that? I was only joking, you know.
Why am I not surprised that 90% of the people in this post are stupid enough to agree with T.I. and not see the point that the writer is making? And his words weren’t twisted, he pretty much said that it’s un-American to criticize homophobes.
What a f****** idiot.
@SSSS:
Ignore Rated X, he/she/it is a dumbass.
XYZ shows his/her usual psychosis …. He/sh is cray cray for sure and homophobic and small minded too.
Rihanna is also known to be a supporter of acts like Beenie Man whose lyrics incite people to hunt down gays.
I AGREE WITH THE FIRST POST, STOP TWISTING S*** !! YOUR GETTING AS BAD AD MEDIATAKEOUT FOR F**** SAKE.
what happened to thatgrapejuice these past few months???
its now WACK as f***.
dont twist peoples words to gain headlines, its pathetic. YOU are pathetic, thatgrapejuice.net
He looks like bow wow on this cover…and thats not cute LOL!!!
gay ppl are so sensitive !! PERIOD !
you are not of different/higher species than humans/straight ppl , you just chose the ODD way ! handle it !
prophets were attacked for having different opinions/thoughts and u want ppl to accept you instantly ?!
think again ! it won’t be that easy !
and u already know what i think about gays ! it is all the way WRONG and i’m not going that way with GAYS here , you know it already , but seriously , they need to keep their GAY s*** in beds cuz they are different and they should know that not everyone will accept them , EVEN YOUR FAMILY !! IT’S LIFE !
if i choose whatever the f*** i do with my life ” right or wrong ” i will go strong all the way up and never pay attention to haters/ppl who try to put me down , especially if i’m DIFFERENT than others ! so …..
so why you care that much about opinions of others and at the same time you know al lot of ppl won’t accept you ?!
keep your s*** going on and do not be sensitive or get emotional !!
you are different , KNOW what that will lead to and accept that ! life are choices and u just choose THAT !
bye !
@RATED xxx :
co-sign with all of your comments
@KING B
Exactly! I love how sane you are.
Yesterday I made some comments and I need to do a last one after reading all of yours:
– @smell the tea needs her pills and return to school
– What are you people talking about? There are nice individuals and bad ones in all races, countries, continets, genders, gays, staright people. Please don´t be so ignorant. Don´t generalize
– Why is it that references to the Bible and such stupid things as the evil and all that always come from uneducated American people?
– Of course educated American people exist. I´m not generalizing
– Why do some people get pressed cos of everything? Pressed cos of gays are slowly achieving equality, some British people pressed cos of Barça domination probably being the best team ever, etc
– And this is for @truthteller. Millions of poors live in the USA. Of course in Europe too (not as many). But here comes the biggest difference: People in Europe have a public health system, being the Spanish one one of the best.
Obama is trying to change some things for the better for people over there but he can´t do almost anything cos of Republicans and most of American people being such hiper capitalist asses like you. Seriously we can´t understand some things that happen over there when it comes to your fellow countrymen
– Rihanna keeps being untalented, sorry. In fact people who are not uneducated but stan for her are weird. Doesn´t make sense. You can like her ok, but stanning for her when you know she´s untalented?
Ti needs to have severals seats back, his stupied ass always comming in and out of jail, like please, “but then again” if hes talking about us gays then hes keeping us relevent, so either we gays are here too stay, I will not even bootleg ur s*** now 🙁
T.I. said that people have the right to be gay and the right to be homophobic as well.He talked about freedom of speech not about homophobia ONLY.His argument doesn’t defend or reject any side, he just talked about the society in general.That’s all he did.Now of course, if you want to misquote him, you’ll find many many thing to be insulted by 😉
Im all for gay people..It gives me a better chance of getting a girl:P
@S*** I didnt know you were gay.
Anyway sometimes gay people get on my damn nerves even some of my gay friends. I dont know if they are not yet comfortable or they are seeking attention or maybe dont feel accepted but gays can be so harsh at times NOT ALL but many of them and I believe thats why so many straight people are harsh as well toward gays but I must say I LOVE ALL PEOPLE.
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @HONEY_DIP11 I FOLLOW BACK!
“As we put it, not everyone has to share the same point of view and nobody is asking anybody to- but until complete equality is achieved, there is no room for idiotic comments like these.”
I totally agree.
@BitchIcantevenspellwelfare re: November 26, 2011 at 12:09 am —
“Clear?” <–o~O
NO! You're not!
..How can you be? Your argument is based on a false statement now wrongly accredited to T.I.! He NEVER said, as this TGJ headline claims: "Some Gay People Are Un-American!"
The sleazy, shallow, demeaning, and condescending "made-for-web-clicks" title/headline "T.I: Some Gay People Are Un-American" is no better than what we'd expect to find over on TMZ, or M**.
Fact is, MOST of these blogger's comments, after reading what T.I. had ACTUALLY said, agrees with him. It is YOU of the "goose-stepping glitter-bombers" who are taking his statement(s), and bending it into something it is/was NOT.
.. Essentially, you-yourself are now exercising your mandate and acting upon said agenda: you're a homosexual who has now sought to shout-down anyone who questions your ungodly, amoral, disease-vectoring lifestyle. And you DON'T care how you do it – be it commenting on threads that misquote, if not outright lie, or you-yourself defending 'Homosexual racism' cloaked in false "liberal-isms".
You, and your comments, are JUST what T.I. and "Fat Joe" were warning about: "Nazi Homosexuals/Gay Mafia" who'll stop at NOTHING, tell whatever LIE, and SLANDER whoever-wherever just to further your homosexual agenda! And, if by chance you're a black man – you're the absolute worst: an emasculated puppet, with genitals hanging on your master's string..
X,Y,"and Z" — OUT..!!
SO,SOME OF YALL R SAYINH IT’S OK TO SUPPORT THESE LOONS
http://GODHATESFAGS.COM
God DOES hate f***.
Look at human history and you will see that every civilization that has embraced homosexuals and their depravity instead of executing them as we are supposed to naturally do (as is was done for THOUSANDS of years) these civilizations have had the wrath of our Lord upon them and said civilizations have been destroyed.
What do you think is going on right now in pro-homosexual Europe and America?
Folks get ready to meet our doom and our maker, thanks to the homosexual our society, families, and country our DOOMED. If only our brave founding fathers would see what their country has become, they would be rolling in their grave.
GOD BLESS T.I.
@smell the tea u need to get yr facts correct, and stop making judgements,that is for the lord, not for u, dumbass the same judgement I will recive, u shall aswell, so careful with yr words my friend 🙂
MISLEADING title, I agree with everything TI said. I’m black and black comedians target their own more than any other group! He never said being gay is un-American. He is saying “shutting people down” who disagrees with your views is un-American. Yes, I have no problem with anyone being against me being black in PEACE. Peace is the key word. If you are acting on your views with hate crimes, discrimination and/or tyranny then it becomes a problem. Everyone has a brain therefore disagreements are bound to happen. Ti is saying let gay people be gay in peace and anti-gays be against it in peace. I’m also gay and I must admit gay people are the biggest bullies on the planet. This blog alone proves it. They call celebs every name in the book. On a larger scale perez hilton is a bully and I found out he is a typical GWM. They hold similar view about class, race…etc. All about a label and looks and are condescending towards those who are not on their financial level.
You think T.I. would be laughing just as much if a white comedian told an offensive black joke?
I think he’d be a little ‘sensitive’
This post got real messy!
THAT N***** NEEDS TO SHUT UP!!!! IF ANYONE EVER USED THE WORD N***** OR TALKED S*** ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE, THEY GET SO DEFENSIVE. BUT GAY MEN HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE CRAP THAT’S SENT OUR WAY RIGHT? I NEVER USE THE WORD N***** BUT WHEN YOU MAKE STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE THAT AND YOU GUYS START USING THE WORD F*****, YOU BRING UR SELVES DOWN TO A N***** LEVEL!
P.S. I’ve always found that the most homophobic men end up being the biggest flamers. And did most of you know that wearing your pants saggy under your ass like T.I. does was a way of tell man in jail that you were submissive and willing to take it up the ass. Just saying… for all those things thinking they’re hot s*** for having their pants under their asses
I always find it hilarious when other minority groups talk s*** about the gay community when they should understand our struggles since they also had to fight for their rights and prove to the world that they were not lessors and deserved the same respect as the white male.
So I guess you all believe slavery was a great f****** idea and that things should be segregated again. S*** apparently according to you guys Hitler had the right idea with the Holocaust. And maybe women don’t belong in the workplace. They should be barefoot and pregnant.
A lot needs to change in this world and minority groups fighting against eachother isn’t going to solve anything!
BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE!! IT IS GENETIC! WHY WOULD SOMEONE CHOOSE TO BE HATED AND JUDGED BY THE GENERAL IGNORANT PUBLIC?
The “Third World solution” to the “gay/homosexual problem”: http://www.worldstaruncut.com/u****/38302 <–Sheer eloquence in its simplicity, and unmatched in its cost-effectiveness. ; – 9 (wink)
..With the added benefit of routing-out any additional well-hidden subversive elements: whoever comes to claim 'the remains', THEIR names get added to "the book" for further 'surveillance'..!!
X,Y,"and Z" — OUT..!!
How is it genetic tell me…..
B_stanning… If you did your research, you would know they have done countless twin studies showing that if an identical twin is gay there is more than a 50% chance that the other will be as well. And this is from data testing twins that were not raised together. Furthermore, some studies have shown that a gay man’s brain functions a little differently then a heterosexual man’s brain. They have also shown that it may also have to do with the condition of the mother’s womb and say that the more male children she has the more likely one of the later ones will be gay. They also think they may have isolated a gene having to do with homosexuality. HOMOPHOBIA LIKE ANY OTHER PREJUDICE IS DO TO LACK OF UNDERSTANDING AND IGNORANCE!
X, Y, and Z…. That’s why it’s a third world country… It lacks education… But I guess you do too!
i just wanna kno who invited him to share his opinion in the first place hmmm?
if u have nothing nice to say….