With 80 million records sold to her name, Annie Lennox‘ influence on Pop culture on both a critical and commercial tip are undeniable.
So, there’s no doubt comments she’s made on Rihanna and Miley Cyrus will rock the branding boats of both entertainers this week, revealing that she is both disturbed and dismayed by their creative paths.
Her words below…
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Oh shut up already!!!! Its entertainment. They need to be disturbed about child trafficking in our own damn country.
She didnt lie though.
Just Shutup…..it’s like no one can live there f****** life anymore without people judging. S*** just reminds me of how much of a biased world we live in. Smdh, and the hypocrisy , Annie’s done some risky things with her style that could of caused a hell of a lot of judgement, but she didn’t care and did her own thing,she did what she wanted without caring what people say and now she bashing others for doing the same?
And btw f*** you miley I’m not sticking up for you because your not trying to being original. Your trying to be mainstream.
lol Ciara is a flop
Her bank acct shits on yours AND she in the record books. How about yourself b****
LOL @ the thumbs down .. FAIL TROLL 😆 Rihanna’s getting dragged. DEAL
LMFAO! Ciara is a singer, songwriter, dancer, producer, model, actress, etc. She sold records & she has talent, class, and money. Why are you so mad? cause rhianna and miley are s** puppets, gimmicks in the industry, with little to no talent that they have to rely on s** & exploiting themselves just to sell records and stay relevant…smh!
Songwriter?….producer?…
actress? where? when? since when is every goddamn singer who played themself in some b-movie an actor/actress?!
and producer? of what? the same song she does since 8 years? gimme that, work and whatever it’s called…
and yeah, she sold records…with her first two albums – afterwards not so much
and to be honest, rihanna is a s*** – we all know that – but she can sing rihanna under the table anytime she wants to…and with relying on s**, the same does ciara
Rihannas twerking was such a fail in that video LMAO!
Your comment is a fail in this thread
Sinead and now Annie? Whose next??? Cindy Lauper? These 80s-90s has beens are mad that the young girls are bigger than they were in their prime?
I’m praying to God that Rihanna claps back with some epic shade! Or at least the Navy.
Lol they’re not has beens, they’re legends. Rihanna & Miley don’t compare.
^ Thank u
were there no Cyndi there would be no Madonna and therefore no Lil Kim Nicki Rihanna, etc
GOPPIT
Wrong everything about Miley & Rihanna has changed since
this H** was in the game.
Madonna did her thing when she was young, and many old cob webs has some shyt talk for her.
The more they talk the more Popular they get and it might not be what they want, but I am sure Miley, Rihanna will be able to handle their haters and the Women and men Preachers that hate their lives.
How would that happen ? She is an 80’s 90’s 00’s clone with bad music, all the really talented people would just laugh at her.
And who is the Rihanna Navy ? Pubescent chavs ?
Oooh, what a scary thought !
Um tell me when Miley sells 80M records lol
I doubt you were even born when these women were in ” their prime,” so how would you even know. People are still singing their tunes and mimicking their artistry now. I bet you all the money in the world NO ONE will be singing Rihanna or Miley in twenty to thirty years time! She is 100% correct. They are whoring themselves out while they have their youth. It means nothing in the long run, because they are saying nothing. There is no real message in their music. There are plenty of under 25’s living it up just as much as these two f****** idiots. They aren’t doing anything new, except for looking like dumb asses selling themselves out.
I hope these wannabe artists hang on to their money now, because their music won’t be lasting. While I’m at it neither will Beyonce’s, Katy Perry’s or Lady Gaga’s. Maybe on Planet Mind Numbing Fuckery somewhere in an unknown galaxy somewhere, perhaps.
Okay trust me, I’m old enough to know. Cyndi is not Madonna’s predecessor. They came out at about the same time. Madonna’s debut album “Madonna” came out in 1983 but she had two huge singles in 1982 before the album was released with “Everybody” and “Burning Up.” Cyndi’s first solo album was released in 1983, “She’s So Unusual.” So to say Madonna wouldn’t be Madonna without Cyndi is inaccurate.
My comment above is @ FAF
Rihanna and Miley have stinky asses
OK guys these women that your quick to tell shut up are, experienced professionals in the game who have lived this business, whether you agree with them they now what goes on behind the scenes and they are not wrong!
I’m a guy so the s** doesn’t bother me so much, within art there is plenty of Rebellion, sexuality it’s all a major part of it.
As much as i love Rihanaa and think Miley makes great music. They are rebels with out no cause, nehind flaunting there sexuality is nothing so it really is just taking your clothes off for the purpose of making money
Rihanna is a strong women so we except it as part of her strength but there is no meaning.
Even in Madonna’s most highly sexual period which was Erotica there was so much going on Artisticly.
A*** was ob the uprise and people were blaming all sorts of sexual misfits Madonna wanted to bring all of these people that we don’t understand into the public domain so that we are not ignorant and understand cos we fear and we blame what we do not know about.
There is always some artistic clear message behind the work and plenty of videos the work, these girls glorify drugs in interviews to sound cool and sell records, there is no purpose here, do i like there music and them, yes but are the prostiting themsleves for money yes!
Let your sexuality have a purpose even with Xtina’s stripped era, the message was sooo strong and visual it wasn’t just about taking your clothes off, these girls need to use there status and there art so its remembered and changes lives
Miley and Rihanna are garbage. Who even listens to that crap ?
I agree. True crap.
MCDONALDS CULTURE, DAMO
OKAY LESS SAY THEY ARE TRASH TO ALL OF YOU
WHY GIVE TRASH YOUR TIME….
AND THEY ARE TRASH WITH OVER 250 MILLION BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM,SHOW ME WHERE ANY OF YOUR BROKE,BUSTED ASSES RATE.
TALK IS CHEAP,AND MONEY KEEP THEIR BILLS PAID.
TELL THE MUSIC INDUSTRY TO GET RID OF THE TRASH IN THE GAME THEN.
These CRYPT keepers need to watch the dead
and let these Youngin live, and learn.
These are the same people who were talking about s** drugs and rock and roll in their time
Now they talking s***.how many artists from their era OD on drugs. Dancing in skimpy outfit is part of Rihanna’s culture. She would be wearing the same skimpy clothes if she was not in the music business. That’s how people dress during carnival.
They wouldn’t go to Brazil and ring carnival and tell people to put on clothes
Miley in the other hand is doing it for shock value.
Dancing in skimpy clothes is not part of west indian culture DEAD @ y’all letting her fill your minds up w/ that s***
many parents do not let their children attend carnivals its the same thing as West Indian day parade in NYC sometimes they turn very violent & theres drugs & alcohol there – its all in the parenting
Rihanna is a billygoat who was raised in an abusive home CLEARLY her parents did not protect her from the ills of the world thats why she’s the way she is, sis
. . but is Rihanna a child? and the rest of that gibberish you wrote just. . .just. . . .chhhhh
“These are the same people who were talking about s** drugs and rock and roll in their time”
No. That would be the generation 20 years older than Sinead and 10 years older than Annie.
Why are people so much more clueless these days ? It’s shocking.
@Mcdonalds. . .do you even know what Sweet Dreams was referring too? Obviously not. . . .
The truth.
Annie must go back to the museum where she came from though, no one is checking for her opinion. It seems like anyone who wants two minutes of relevance these days picks on Miley
Just like no one is checking for Gaga?
is that why Appluase is still in the top 10????????
lol, you are mad, and you will remain mad 😀
Who the f*** is this b**** anyway!?!
Sick of b****** voicing their opinion when their opinions don’t mean s***!
*Twerks My Way Back Inside Castle*
Why are you twerking, when it’s an 80’s dance ?
What these artist are saying is where is the talent.. As superstars you should be able to tell the difference between a stripper and the star. In rihanna video who is the superstar who is the stripper.. Where’s the talent. even when Madonna did shocking videos she still was the start with the talent. She didn’t blend in. These girls are setting women in music back.. Yeah great video open my legs and sing um no.. where is the hard work. Look at Britney new video she is s*** but she’s not doing what the other girls are. Get real.. Then you have the fans of there saying let then live there life. But what is there career? We know katy p, Beyonce, lady Gaga, adele are singers ciara Janet j and Madonna Britney Spears are more performers .. what is miley and rihanna? If you have to tell ppl then they are not doing a good job at it. They get paid for this remember this ain’t for free
JUSTME
Look up Ri “Diamonds” and see the flips it has turned on the charts and it will stand toe to toe with any Bytche with their ass pointing to the ground and the Lady that is talking I wonder if she has given as much in all her Charities put together as Ri has done in One Along 1.75 Million. and its clear that Rihanna Album “GGGB” has out paced all of her work put together.
Kiss Rihanna’s Rich Famous ass, and Her Navy
And Kiss Miles’s Rich tight ass as well.
Scheissethroned(GrapejuiceKing)
October 7, 2013 at 7:00 am
Who the f*** is this b**** anyway!?!
Sick of b****** voicing their opinion when their opinions don’t mean s***!
*Twerks My Way Back Inside Castle*
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B****, you really don’t know who Annie Lennox is?
It’s the Woman that T***** GAG-GAGA bases her entire career on and steals from!!!
OOOOOOOPS.
The public decide who is a star. They vote with their money
You are absolutely correct. Which means that certain (I don’t know what to call them b/c ‘artists’ is not the right word) uh, performers should be ignored regardless of how much they are shoved down our throats.
Mainstream pop music is abysmal and it doesn’t have to be.
Truth hurts! And I am glad that the likes of Sinead and Annie are speaking it! Has beens are those who, Amerieetc… tried it and failed. Annie and Sinead’s talent, record sales, sold out shows, and amazing music catalogue speak volumes and speak for themselves. They are living proof that you can sell without selling s** but they are pointing out that the likes of Rihanna and Miley rely on s** to sell. They’ve sold their souls to the devil. If you took tht away, they’d be nothing and struggling like Fefe Dobson, Christina Milian
And who is she? Never heard of her.
Unsurprising that someone with no musical taste wouldn’t have heard of a legend.
I’m sure u haven’t heard of her since you listen to pop tarts in the industry, gimmicks with no talent who have to act trashy just to stay relevant cause they have no longevity.
The reach, Sam, is ridiculous. Rihanna never marketed to a young audience so for you to infer that it’s directed at Rihanna is chhhh. . . .we all know she’s talking about Miley.
In that case, you must add your beloved Beyonce in the mix because that’s how she marketed herself as well–s**. Now say I’m lying.. . . .
I know you have to pay your rent but the reach is sad at this point.
Just leave Beyonce out of it. She doesnt promote a notorious trashy, slutty image like Rihanna. Yes she been s*** because shes sensual performer. But theres a reason she does not get called out like Rihanna. And Rihanna knows damn well who her main market is regardless.
Oh, and death at you blaming Sam like he tweeted it.
No, I’m not blaming Same for what Annie said; I am blaming Sam who wrote the spin on the story and it wasn’t a tweet, there was acomplete interview but I excuse your comprehension level on GP alone. . .I think you know why. . . . Annie didn’t actually name names but inferred that is why I said it could be anyone she is directing that too but Miley most certainly banked off of a young audience starting with Hannah Montana. . .idiot.
She mentioned recent spate of videos, key word being RECENT. Who else has an over sexualised recent video released thats caught everyones attention and caused controversy?
. . here I go going back and forth with you which is probably a waste but she’s more than likely referring to Wrecking Ball which Miley licking hammers and swinging naked has clearly nothing to do with the song. As for Rihanna, what else type of video would you shoot for a “stripper anthem” besides. . .ding ding. . .stripping? Any parent that let’s their kid listen to Rihanna’s PIU when clearly she’s targeting an adult audience, then that’s a problem. . . performance for a wide audience, clearly it was the Blurred Lines fiasco so try again with your reach as well
SPATE is a plural term. I live for the excuses though.
Nope, sorry. Annie actually named Beyoncé as one of her favorite singers but nice try though.
When are people going to learn that you cannot put Bey and Miley in the same sentence. It simply doesn’t work.
. .Oh I won’t put Beyonce and Miley on the same level as much as I dislike Beyonce. Beyonce is miles apart from that “Try-Hard”. In the same token, Rihanna is not even close to being in the same lanes a “Hannah”. She’s light years ahead of this trvesty as well so I wish people would stop the comparisons as well.
” Rihanna never marketed to a young audience ”
What ? Her fans are pubescents and kids !
. .receipts and facts only please because I take opinions for what they are worth. . .they say most of Beyonce’s fans are the uneducated and girly boys. . .is that fact?
. . meaning @Mcdonalds what your wrote is your opinion
Who is Annie Lennox? Is that a serious question?!
You can disagree with her opinion, etc….but that type of musical ignorance is unacceptable. It actually speaks volumes.
Wowwww how can you say you’ve never heard of Annie Lenox? Thats embarrassing.
Once again people are focussed on who is delivering the message instead of paying attention to what is being said. These younger artists are doing too much too soon, to be honest Im just waiting for one of them to give birth on a music video. i dont know why these older artists bother, this message just like all the others will fall on def ears.
People thinking they’re shading by saying WHO IS SHE shade themeselves more than anything
lol, right!!!! It’s the epitome of self-shade.
Blablabla Pour it to phuck up and shut the phuck up ! does every song needs to have a philosophic meaning ? There’s a thousand other PG artists if u don’t want to watch Rihanna… ‘What now’ coming this weekkkkkkkkkkkkk OMG * a dream come true*
Annie, who was simply telling the truth, has the clout to be able to commentate on the silly antics of these frivolous pop tarts of today. And as ‘out there’ as some of Annie’s antics were in her day, unlike Miley and Rihanna, NOBODY ever questioned her talent. She had the skills to back up hers up, and wasn’t using her shock value to mask her lack of ability. Neither Rihanna or Miley can say the same.
Annie told nothing but the truth. They rely on controversy to gloss over what they lack.
“…Neither Rihanna or Miley can say the same…” hummm STAY AND DIAMOND SAY OTHERWISE => _/
Exceptions to the norm. 95% of Rihanna’s catalog is garbage.
Opinion much not shared by the GP
“Stay” and “Diamonds” aren’t any ‘exceptions,’ AFAIC. Those two songs are every bit as s***** as the rest of her catalog. It’s hilarious that HOTSTUFF tried to name drop those titles, as though they prove something. No bet.
@czarm. . . . Opinions are like azzholes. . .everyone has one and that is yours
How is Miley and Rihanna setting back women if women in all aspects of life use their sexuality to get what they want? Feminism is also about pro choice right? For individuals that are for women’s rights they are so narrow minded and judgemental, yes not every girl should be able to get naked to sell but if a girl chooses to get real comfortable within her own skin and shares that with others then there should be no judgement. Our societal views are not always what’s best for the world.. Remember Slavery? Homophobia? Sexism? Get off your high horse realize that the world will always be screwed up because we were taught to judge and not love others for who they are.. Embrace that every person is different, embrace that change and you might see things differently.
I don’t think the exploration of sexuality is the problem. Annie, herself, has pushed her own share of boundaries in her own work. However, the difference between Annie and Miley is Annie was not trying to commodify her sexuality. In other words, it was never been “s** for s**’s sake” with her. There was a purpose. It was never gratuitous.
Miley can swing completely naked on a wrecking ball, pose for the latest round of pictures for Terry Richardson, etc…but let’s not call that “art.” Let’s call it what it is and Annie has done so.
Put it like this, if Miley was able to pull off what Madonna did in her “Justify My Love” video, for example, there wouldn’t be a problem. With Miley, it just looks so forced and contrived and most importantly, it’s not saying anything.
I understand your point and to be honest, I am not defending Miley at all because I didn’t understand the message she was conveying through that Wrecking Ball video either. However, as I grow older (21) I start opening my mind more and understand what it means to be human. My point wasn’t just based on sexuality but our identity, gender roles and societal views on women who are in this case ‘over sexualized’. As feminist oriented, I believe a woman has a right to express herself in a light she sees fit because women also have choices on how they want to be viewed and how they want to live. Being a woman is more than just being able to have the same rights, equal treatment and pay. I just don’t want some members of TGJ making out all women as Christian role models when chances are they’re not.
I agree
I totally agree with you. Whether we’re talking about sexuality, gender presentation, societal roles, etc…women should have the right to present themselves as they see fit.
In the world of art, however, there is an invitation for the viewer to take notice, critique, and engage with the artist. On the one hand you have Miley’s fans who are loving her work. On the other hand, you have critiques like Annie’s. For me, I find this healthy.
I don’t think Annie is trying to police Miley’s or Rihanna’s behavior. I think she’s asking us to consider whether or not there is TRUE power in presenting ourselves in an oversexualized manner? Just because I directed my own video or i ASKED Terry Richardson to shoot me this way, is that really power? I think it’s a great question.
Good question and would make for a great discussion.
Yes. you make a valid point. Now if only other Navy members, hell, all stan groups can have discussions like this… Smh
“Feminism is also about pro choice right?”
This is the generic idea of feminism, the kind a lot of teenagers (no shade) have today because they have a very basic idea of what feminism is grounded in. Feminism is about choice but TRUE choice. These girls have male managers, male producers, male directors and PR agents. It’s silly to think the people physically signing their checks and controlling their careers don’t have influence.
We’ve seen plenty of artists quit their contracts and leave their agency because they wanted them to change their sound, be more generic, appeal more to a mass audience. Rihanna slapping around twerking on water while a man nods in approval isn’t feminism.
WHY are the people behind these girls encouraging them towards more and more sexual images ignoring their talent and ability? Basic songs, no choreography, limited singing range, no direction. I mean come on…
The thing is. . men were the ones behind Rihanna when they were trying to make her a Beyonce clone when she first came out. . .when she took control, she became the RIhanna we know. I don’t think her image is controlled by a man, at all. . . . .now, Miley. . .when we see her some years down the road and she’s still this way and not on breakdown alley. . . .
So the Rihanna you see is the real Rihanna. . .the one when she first hit the scene was contrrolled by men’s strings. I’m glad she found herself and her voice at such a young age. She’s astrong individual diespite what people try to say about her because she has accomplished allthis at a young age and dealt with a lot of things many young people never will experience. I’m proud of Rih.
excuse the typos. . .
PREEEEACH! But watch the excuses come rolling in ‘she never said she was a role model’ bla bla bla. When you actually digest what shes saying its pure truth.
Great. TGJ, you’ve done it again. Stop shading artists when you can’t get your site working properly, like what kind of budget do yall have? I can see another persons email address… That’s a privacy issue! Fix it
LMAO. This site really is low-budget though. My tumblr looks better than this.
Somebody stole my f****** s*** before too well it aint stealin when it’s practically given to you
First of all, she wasn’t only talking about Miley and Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney and Caca to name a few have all taken their clothes off for entertainment.
Secondly can people leave Miley and Rihanna alone, they are not the first nor will they be the last to take their clothes off.
Beyonce, Janet, Madonna started and continued the wave of taking your clothes off, hell even Mariah did it at one point. Stop the double standards and let the girls live.
If you were letting your kids watch Madonna, Mariah, Janet and Beyonce videos when they were young, then you have no room to complain when they turn out like Miley.
Miley is a trashy, classless h** who likes to mimic stroke victims. Where did she pick up that habit?
From Mariah’s stiff dancing.
Miley and Rihanna are like the prostitutes of the industry. Theres a difference between being s*** and confident as a female performer and promoting nasty, over sexualised, drugs and slutty behavior.
. .I’m justr curious as to “who” you deem s*** and confident. . .I’ll wait
Majority of the people irrelevantly dragged into the above comment.
Nope, no difference. TAKING YOUR CLOTHES OFF IS TAKING YOUR CLOTHES OFF.
No sugar coating.
Rihanna gave birth to Miley. Did y’all really think Miley would be an angel? Chiiile!
There is easily a difference. The proof is in the pudding and Rihanna and Miley are the ones always being complained about. Why? Trying to shift the bad press onto legends and other artists is not going to take Rihanna and Mileys issue away
. . but she didn’t name names so . . . .
Before you stalk my comment know who Im addressing first.
I read your comment and you stated Miley and Rihanna. . . .and I assumed you said their name referencing the article. . right? And I stated that Annie didn’t mention any names so why did you distinctly call out those two. . . . I think you see the logic here? I hope. . . .
No im addresing Lovebird. Now Bye!
. . do you know what the @ means. . .and I was addressing what YOU wrote like people do on a messageboard. . . . . . toodles
So the f*** what! A and B conversation… You know the rest. Go tell Lovebitch who did exactly the same.
Miley has talent
N**** please,their are more crotch shot of beyonce on stage than any other artist. For Rihanna it’s a cultural thing for Beyonce and Miley it’s a business and promotion thing.
So much delusion. So much b*******.
Truth. . .I guess they conveniently forgot the crotch shots at the Superbowl in the dominatrix outfit . . .chhhhh. . .sigh
Being from the Carribean myself, this comment is total B*******.
. .so they don’t have sensual and sexualized dancing as well as dress provacatively during the festivals, etc. in the islands? I’m not saying everyone but it is a big part of that culture. . .denial is a bad thing.
Yes buts that NOT the reason Rihanna does it. Considering she was more clean cut in her days of making reggae/pop albums and marketed as an Island girl in comparisn to now! Total b*******. Her music is not dancehall, its pop and the way she promotes it in her photoshoots, choreography etc is not because shes from the Carribean. If thats the case why arent all Carribean singers like her? They’re not.
First of all, you’re not a RIhanna fan because you would know why the change which I am not about to go into. . . .second, she doesn’t have to ONLY do dancehall music to display parts of her culture in the work she does. . . . .what sense does that make?
. .not all Carribean singers are the same. . .what sense would that make to even think that?
Im addressing the persons original comment, blaming her over sexualized image is because shes from the Caribbean. Thats not the reason. She markets an over sexualized image along with her bad b**** persona. Why she changed is besides the point no Im not a fan so I dont care. Some of her moves yes, are part of Caribbean culture but thats not WHY Rihanna is over sexualized. I used her old music as an example because if it was because of her culture, she would have been that way from Day 1. When she was practically the opposite. Im Carribbean, if I suddenly became a pop star (never lol) I would not portray myself the way Rihanna does. She can do whatever she wants, but her patting her p****, doing photoshoots of herself taking pictures between her legs and making songs about strippers is not because shes Caribbean.
No. .Rihanna was not and nor could even have been in control of her image day 1 in the industry. . .she did not have enough power. You don’t come into the industry telling them how you are going to be until you 1) gain power 2) don’t care and come in with a short shelf life. . . .hence why a lot of artist choose to go the indie route–to have more control. Rihanna was and did what they told her until she had gained enough–ENOUGH–power or influence to change and be who she is today. Plus, Rihanna has been in the industry quite a long time–she’s evolved. Who stays stagnant. No one is the same person they were nine or ten years ago. . .at least I hope not.
And the fact remains Rihannas sexual behavior is not because of culture.
. . uh huh. . ok. . . .chhhh
Glad we agree on that one!
old farts thinking on old lanes. but looks things have changed. yeah good and bad ways. if they don’t like it they should stay off the mainstream. *shrugs*
Be quiet.
They’re both a mess and do it all for attention, these legends are right but they are giving them exactly what they want.
Oh and whilst your exposing your double standards on Miley, don’t forget to buy Daniel De Bourg’s album London Bread.
wasn’t she in the same error as Madonna and grace jones…..this shyt aint nothing new.
*era
Difference is those women had undeniable talent unlike Miley’s nasal ass.
that’s debatable…ijs
Kiiiiiii. . . .
It’s like people are mad s*** only works for certain artists.
Madonna, Xtina (stripped era), P!nk, Kelly Rowland (see motivation), Beyonce (so many stage crotch shots), T***** Caca (running around naked in the forest) just to name a few and you want to complain about Miley, f****** bye.
. .I agree Lovebird, the only problem I have with Miley is it feels forced as if it is all for show and publicity. I read her interview when she posed semi n*** at 15 and said she felt the photographer forced her to do that and that wasn’t her. . . .JMO, I feel like she is doing things which are not really true to who she is because she has people pushing her in this direction despite what she says. Now, she may prove me wrong and I hope she hits that “Rihanna” stage where she just forgets what the “team” wants and becomes true to herslef before she crashes and burns. . . . .but shrugs. That’s the same reason I don’t like Gaga. ..I feel she contrived her whole image for publicity or a gimmick. Gaga has talent and could go further is people actually felt she was such a minstrel show. Same with Miley because I like her singing. . .I like WB but gowrl. . . . .stop with the buffonery.
I have nothing against nudity, etc. . . .but it has to be YOU.
What is going on with all of this deflection? Bringing up Legends Janet, Madonna, Mariah, Beyonce, and Grace (a true genius) to justify the actions of Miley? No. There is a stark difference between them and Miley, sorry.
And you wonder why NOBODY had anything to say about Gaga’s work with Marina Abramović. Think about it.
You can disagree with what shes saying but the kids ignorance on here is just too much. Before saying ‘I dont know her’ or ‘shut up’ like a bunch of 12 year olds, do your research to avoid looking ignorant and uneducated and take into these are legends who know the industry, been it for years and have probably experienced the dark side of it aswell.
. .so true and back during their time, Annie knows the crop all had their distinct images–Annie–androgynous which was controversial all on it’s own; Madonna raw s**; Cyndi–valley girl; etc. . . I do somewhat agree with some of what she said because I really think she’s referring to just Miley but s** has always sold in the music industry. Always have and always will.
Its so terrible reading the comments. Ignorant little kids. But why would she not be talking about Rihanna? Shes referring to more than just one video. And unfortunatley, PIU fits the critera shes talking about. And it made headlines in UK (where she is from).
PIU was directed, marketed and made for an adult audience. What type of video would you have suggested she do for that specific song. . . I wedding dress and banquet table on the lawn? That’s like watching a rated R movie and complaining it had nudity and cursing in it. Wrecking ball was not catered to just an adult audience and there lies the diffrence. . . . .
But this isnt about me. The video fits perfectly for the trashy song. Its about strippers so thats what shes giving. Annie is talking about Rihanna aswell doll, it wasnt marketed to any specific audience because Rihanna and her team know that she has young fans who will still watch it. Majority of her hardcore fans are under a certain age. Many being teens. You know it, I know it, Annie knows it, Rihanna knows it. But Rihanna and her team choose to ignore it, which is their perogative. But thats where the debate stands.
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Any parent who let’s their child listen to some of Rihanna’s music without discretion shouldn’t be parents. She does not market to a young crowd. She stated that numerous times. . .and how do you know who the majority of Rihann’s fanbase is comprised of? Hannah Montana–was specifically designed for children. My niece watched her religiously and she grabbed from that fanbase to market what she’s selling now; she started promoting songs and marketing them on that show so she DID and does have a young fanbase. Same with Selena. .their Disney days have them where they are now. Rihanna was never Disney.
Parent cant troll everything inpressionable teenagers are doing. We wouldnt have many online trolls if they could Rihannas audiencd is still young. Its not rocket science where im coming from. Im not the one holding Rihanna responsible. But it is how it is and thats what Annie is addressing. The RECENT spat (meaning more than one).
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. . see that’s the problm with some parents today. . letting celebrities raise the kids instead of them doing it themselves. . . . .any parent who let’s their child “troll” the internet without having parameters in place . . .I don’t know what to tell you–it’s nothing good. . . . . .Rihanna’s job is not to raise your kids by portraying a Disney Princess image for mass consumption just to appease the people who kids have no guidance or direction. . . .she is who she is and does what she does and does it very well. No she is not marketed towards a young audience. . . .no more so than that soft pron book, “Shades of Grey”.
I agree with you to some extent. You’re going off topic though all I was asking is why wouldn’t it be about Rihanna. Rihanna is marketed to a general audience no specific age. And that audience includes a lot of young people, which is Annie’s point. They dont really have a choice. I don’t believe Rihanna is responsible like that. Its not my debate. I was just pissed off by the lack of respect for a legend.
The thing is. . first, Annie didn’t state names when she said this so we are assuming. . .Sam is definitely assuming she was addressing Rihanna because she hates herrr. . but, based on what was said, I and other messageboards took it to mean Miley. . . .Sam threw Rihanna’s name in the mix and people ran with it. . . .but I disagree. . .Rihanna does not market to a young audience. Personally, she sounds good and her music is very popular BUT that doesn’t mean it’s for every age group. I guess I’m trying to figure out why you say she’s marketed to the general public?
I see you’re having the same argument. But its ok to assume its about Miley? Oh ok. Double standards.
No who the hell is this w****??? Sick of all these hasbeens tryna get shine off of Miley.
Don’t worry Miley will be joining true hasbeens (see Jonas Bros) soon enough. Meanwhile legends (like Annie) will continue to inspire careers.
People act like girls are now just acting slutty… No one called Gaga out for being naked in those magazines or called Beyonce out for always popping her p****
. .the double standard is sad. . . .I remember the Beyonce Baby Boy video with her rolling around in the mud and gyrating yet the same people called it amazing art. . .the hypocrisy
LOLOLOL! Thats nothing in comparison to PIU hence why theres no explicit versions of any of Beyonces songs. The Navy and their reaches.
The Hive and their pressedness. . . . .but with that said I have no problem with either video. . .both were fine with me–PIU and BB. ..
What gets me is no one had a problem when Prince was walking around with exposed ass in chaps but let women flaunt their sexuality, it’s a crime. Chhhh. . .the hyprocrisy again.
Why she didn’t have problem when Madonna showed off her boob?
Probably because it wasn’t in a music video? It was in a concert where I’m sure people would be forewarned of adult content when buying tickets.
Why cant Rihanna and Miley fans just except the backlash your favs were after and stop crying about why they dont come for Beyonce, Janet, Britney etc. The f****** thirst.
Reading is the key. .Annie didn’t come for Rihanna. . .Sam did
Shes coming for Rihanna and Miley she doesnt need to mention names. Deal.
I feel like she was coming for “others” as well since it was a blanket statement.. . . deal
Others like who? Who else is recent?
. .smiles. . should I even go there. . . . .I’m bored this morning. . .I might. . . .kiii
Yes please do.
. . in recent. . .she could be referring to any of the other pop gowrls besides the two Sam wanted to shade such as –Gaga, Beyonce, Nicki, Ciara, Britney; etc. . . . .and I could go on but you get the picture. . . I know you do. . . smiles
but saying Rihannas name pays the bill so I can see the method behind the madness. . . . .kiiii
now, one may be questrionable because really. .what has the one in question done recently? Oh yeah, a calendar and snippet.
Britney -Possibly (although hers is just a typical music video).
Gaga- Possibly but the video wasn’t really selling s**, just weird.
Beyoncé- Erm. What video has she released of recent? Is this coming from the same fan base on tiptoes about when she will finally release?
And if you believe she could be talking about these girls, why cant she be talking about Rihanna? Rihanna is more likely. Accept it. Her and Miley are the only ones making headlines for this s***. And since shes talking about more than one, its clearly about her.
. . now. . if Britney’s video which protrays the BDS&M lifestyle with chicks on chains wearing bondage gear while having that a** whipped with a flogger isn’t sexual then. . .lawd
Gaga walking through a forest, bukked nakkid yodeling at the frogs in the pond and the birds in the trees, if that wasn’t. . . . .ratchet. . .chhh
True Beyonce is not recent but let’s pulll crotch shots from the Superbowl performance. . . . .
This is about who Annie is addressing and you stay deflecting from the fact Rihanna is 99.9% one of those people along with Miley. More so than the others.
The most recent? Check.
The most Sexual? Check.
An actual video? Motherfucking check!
And part of the SPATE (key word). Check.
One of the most controversial? Check.
Whats to question?
Btw Annie loves Beyonce so shes not talking about her, especially since she has no recent s***.
You are so not comprehending. .what makes you so sure she’s addressing Rihanna. .. . you pointed out WHY you THOUGHT she was referring to Rihanna. . .I showed you where you was wrong and you still saying the same thing. . . .were you in Annie’s mind when she said this because I swear, I see no names. .that’s the only way you 100% know who she was referring to. . . . .maybe Sam told you. . .chhhh
Are you buying that calendar? Kiiiiii. . .it’s art
The same reason you’re sure shes addressing Miley!
Yes I will be buying, a fine example of how not to look like w**** but still be hot!
Sam you shade so much but your TGJ layout looks and acts like it has a Kelly Rowland budget. Why do you have so many problems with your site? If you need help with web designs then please call @Rosie as she stated previously that her Tumblr page looks much better and operates more smoothly as well.
Lmao Kelly Rowland budget
If you’ve never heard of Sinead or Annie before today, then you have no room criticizing artists who do not fit the social norm of what’s popular right now.
First Celine, then Elton, Sinead and now Annie. They’re only spilling the truth baby.
it’s legit not to know them. 23 years, 30 years, elton? when they released their known things. that’s quite some time of life to be grown out of this time as a t*** of these days. 😉
Um, what?
I don’t know her.. Let the girls live it ain’t like there out committing crimes.
Idk who this lady is so her opinion does not matter.
That lady influenced your fav
#BitchPlease
Lol, sounds like something a little monster would say. Guess since your gave hasn’t stolen anything from her you’re clueless.
Weak shade try again d***… Not my fault majority of us dont know who this hasbeen is.
D***??? LMAO so you’re a hypocrite like your fav too?
I thought Mother T***** said love the gays? I know you’re mad the majority forgot who Gaga is 3 years after she came out.
Take note that the folks condemning the style these girls perpetuate are individuals who were stars when there was nothing to make you successful but the actual ability to SING. To know your instruments, to have artistic direction, to be something special.
If one wasn’t paler than the other what would distinguish Miley from Rihanna?
Quite a lot. .tha’ts like saying what is the difference between Miley and Madonna. . . actually to make it easier, the only thing that Miley and Rihanna have in common is that they are both controversial and that where the similarities stop.
I agree with Annie….Its sad how we as females came along way wanting to be treated with respect, and not degraded. And when we have females like rhianna and miley over sexualizing themselves, and their delusional stans calling it classy its beyond shameful. There is nothing classy and s*** about miley and rhianna. They both are trashy, they have no class, or self-respect.STFU about entertainment, there is nothing entertaining about females like rhianna and miley who degrade themselves…A real female artist can show skin and be classy/s*** while doing it, so stans need to learn the difference between class and trash.
Presssed much? In other news, Beyonce just released a calendar for you guys to run and buy. . . . .
nope, no single yet
Exactly.
WHO????
Theres more important things in world to worry about other than Rihanna and Miley being whores.
I love Eurythmics but Annie STFU. All these b****** from 30 years ago getting ff someone’s name. Let’s just go down the line and ask every female artist ever what they think about Miley and Rihanna. Pebbles, yer first. Then Jody Watley, then Sheena Easton. SMH
Be quiet. It’s not as if Annie and Sinead are the only ones who’ve critiqued the desperate and ridiculous b******* that Miley and Rihanna are contaminating the world of music with as of late. They’re basically repeating what’s been said for months, if not years, regarding those two talentless, attention-seeking trollops.
And when you’re as accomplished and respected as Annie, you can call out idiot flavor of the moment pop stars who won’t be around in another few years, because chances are she’s seen cartoons like them come and go before. She know what she’s talking about.
Well she´s obviously right and also said back in 2010 when Mariah Carey released her second Xmas album that Mariah´s voice is like the most exceptional thing she´s ever heard. So I love this woman.
Let me replay “Sweet Dreams” and enjoy true talent-music.
So is it for real that some kids in here don´t know who this woman or Sinead are????? Really??? Do you enjoy making a fool of yourselves in public or what? Do you think anybody with a brain will take your opinions seriously in the future? When you stan for the biggest disgrace in music? Problem is not nudity or controversy. Problem is talentless puppets.
I think it’s about time TGJ bans you. You’re like 90 years old and you keep arguing with children. Your comments are just hate masked with undertones of ‘kindergarten shade’. Enough is enough out of you already; biased and pressed, I dislike people that can’t just find the positive out of everyone’s artistry. SMH… Move along Benjamin Button.
LOL and that´s reason enough to ban a person? Supporting huge talents no matter their age? Ok.
I’m a Huge Navy, But the PIU music video is a “NO”, I already never was a huge fan of the song in the First Place.
To make a long story short,I agree With Her to some extent.
At least you’re not so delusional, compared to others on this site and can admit it!
I didn’t know who she was either,but I actually looked her up and her music is pretty good. And she wasn’t lying either
I love Miley but she’s 1000% right no lies detected. Its not rocket science that she was referring to both miley and rihanna
In the era of Annie Lennox there were 1.Madonna doing Like a Virgin etc 2. Sheena Easton doing My Sugar Walls etc 3. Vanity Six doing Nasty Girls 4. and so on …so being sexual as a talent is nothing new