‘She‘ chanteuse may have poured her heart and soul into her new album ‘Point of No Return’, but it would seem the general public have decided not throw their hearts and wallets in its support today, now that it’s first week sales prediction has been announced.
Unfortunately, after the critically acclaimed ‘Woman to Woman‘ opened with 96,000 units in 2012, ‘Return’ is set to touch down on the ‘Billboard 200‘ with anywhere between 22 to 25,000 units next week, marking her lowest opening week number to date.
On lower ground, Urban Pop sensation Tinashe isn’t set to fare any better. For despite owning the summer with the smash hit single ‘2 On’, the entertainer proves there’s more work to be done now that her debut LP ‘Aquarius’ is set to sell between 17 to 20,000 copies.
Via ‘Hits Daily Double’:
Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 290-310k
Hozier (Columbia) 50-55k
Weezer (Republic) 30-35k
Alex & Sierra (SYCO/Columbia) 28-32k
Stevie Nicks (Reprise) 25-28k
Keyshia Cole (Geffen) 22-25k
Jackson Browne (Inside) 17-20k
Tinashe (RCA) 17-20k
New Found Glory (Hopeless) 17-20k
Sixx:A.M. (Eleven Seven) 15-18k
The Piano Guys (Sony Masterworks) 14-17k
Yellowcard (Razor & Tie) 12-15k
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FLOP
Where is your album and how did it chart? And I don’t mean Beyonce either. I mean YOUR album or anything worthy you have done…. In life that is…..
I’ll wait
Um as if I want to be artist… And anyway what have YOU done is a bigger question…
The critical acclaim makes up for Tinashe though…
It sold less than S***** Ashanti mixtape lol what a joke
When has Ashanti had critical acclaim???
Ashanti is on her OWN label though so u can’t compare
she pays out of pocket to promote herself
these ladies are on labels & had promo
more than even basic instinct
and u got Mariah Jlo Keyshia and Tinashe selling like this
I knew keyshia should’ve waited to do her reality show for her CD to drop!!
Yep and Tinashe will become a great touring act in the future. Se needs to go to Europe and do tons of summer festivals. She can get into 5000 seat venues in a couple of years.
Keyshia already has the hits but her live act is HORRBILE.
She focused on dancing instead of vocals…. that would be like Ciara focusing on vocals instead of dancing.
Keyshia needs to put a soul tour together and get those vocals right.
NO MORE BACKUP DANCERS KEYSHIA. Get some backup singers and get back to the basics… the vocals.
HOLLERING!
I dont think its funny, its sad actually and I feel bad for them
they had promo even before this week
and tinashe’s album is actually good.. its not even like they have high single sales to save this era like Ci did
Biitch hush. Talkn nout foolish ass ciFLOP
WAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHALOLOL LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!! FLOOOPPP!!!!!!
Your career is dead, Ghostbuster.
Hang it up Keyshia. At least you still have royalties
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Keyshia career is officially over kii the b**** is trash now anyways.
FLOPS, but keyshia’s reality show and a dope single will probably save the album. Tinashe should treat this album as a set up for getting her buzz going and go straight to album number two. I’ve seen this work.
Agreed! Miguel and Ariana did this and it worked wonders for their careers.
She’s already working on her second album
I told ya’ll local artist Tinashe wouldn’t sell 25K.
Tinashe’s album is critically acclaimed though and how many other artists have debuted in the top 10 with your debut album. Remember Katy perry didn’t reach the top 5 for her debut and yet she’s out here grabbing number one singles even though she’s as basic as a build a bear. And Tinashe is actually talented.
Sweetheart, there is no excuse for 17k when you have one of the biggest singles of the year. Iggy puts her to absolute shame.
Tinashe didn’t have one of the biggest song of the year, but Iggy did and her album is still internationally uncertified
Tinashe is a nice girl but you can tell she thought she was coming to slay. Too bad she’s a singles artists at BEST! Does 2 On even have a certification? And how is it possible that Ashanti outsold her without HALF of the buzz, promo or support.
DONT BE DUMB ASHANTI HAS BEEN AROUND AND IS AN ESTABLISHED BRAND TINASHE IS NEW AND THIS IS HER DEBUT
Ashanti is an independent artist though.
She cant sing!!
Tinashe should join love and hip hop if she wants a chance at real stardom.
Oh and Keyshia we’re all laughing at these flop sells.
you need to shut the fuccckkk up because Kelly will debut with 1000 copies sold next go around the nerve of you to call SOMEONE A FLOP WHEN KELLY IS THE BIGGEST ESTABLISHED FLOP
the joke is on you..everyone predicts Kelly to flop yet she still outsells all the other R&B girls..and i would rather be established than be washed up like Keyshia Cole..her album was cute though
Tinashe stans must feel stupid saying she was coming for ciara bey and rihs wig
Ciara is laughing her ass of somewhere cos 2 On made more impact than Body Party but she sold 3 TIMES AS MUCH AS HER.
LMFAO!!!! Too bad! Wannabes never prospa.
don’t get to happy because Ciara will flop harder her next era and lets no act like fantasy ride, basic instinct and Ciara all don’t even add up to 500k
Why are we acting brand new? 1) I didn’t even know that Cole dropped an album. She even said it herself that the label wasn’t behind this era and that’s why it’s her last album with them. 2) Even artists with the biggest hits are selling p*** poor. It’s a singles age, no one wants to get to know a full body of work. The days of having your car/cd player/stereo limited to ONE CD is dead and gone. Now people just want to play hits or their favorite songs and have access to their whole music library. All genres are selling less and less expect for a few (and I mean like less than 20 artist). 3)Tinashe album is great, but the promo was everywhere. 2On was a hit, but didn’t give you a preview of the theme of the album. i’m sure half thought it was gonna be an urban album with the way 2On was promoted. She has a core fan base, so I’m sure with time she’ll hit 100K or like some said, create buzz and bring out the 2nd album. I see why Streeter and Mila J released LP’s and not albums yet. I even stated in the past that her light skin will get her out faster, but not farther. 4) I told y’all BraveHeart had great numbers for an inde artist. R&b artist (that can write and produce) should just go inde, so we can get good music.
What’s the point of having a critically acclaimed when no ones buying it? yall can stop with the excuses.
Ever heard of “downloading music for free” or “free streaming”???
BS! You guys clowned Iggy… seeth hunty!
How’s The New Classic doing??? *sips tea* Doesn’t seem like a classic if it’s getting mixed reviews and low sales…
I don’t care about Iggy’s sales boo… but she has sold more thank 17K chew on that!
Please, she won’t be relevant next year…
But TinkTink aka 2 Off aka 17K isnt even relevant and her album came out yesterday! Weeeeeeeeeeeee
Critical acclaim Hun… *sips tea*
Tink Tink critically acclaimed?!?!? Where dafuq did you see that hun? Those record sales are critical and she will acclaim her a** back to acting.
Shut It H**….
you should be saying that to tamar OH WAIT let me refresh your memory in 2000 that muppet fav of yours debuted at 127 and it took her over 10 years and a reality show to get some local relevance in the ghetto its been a year and love and war is still uncertified she has had 2 reality shows a talk show a tour with john legend and rkelly her own solo tour and she is STILL A FLOP LMFAO
Well I’m not surprised. I still like Tinashes album though. But the type of music she makes is just not what will get her to sell (100k first week is considered good these days). Unless you are Beyonce, R&B based album won’t do over 50k. I just hope she doesn’t sell out after this.
Shes a true flop even K.monkeychelle sold more and she has never had a hit like 2 on
Can you hear that? That’s the sound of egg hitting Tinashe’s fans’ faces. You really thought she could come for Rihanna and get away with it? Poor yeu.
Tinashe is more critically acclaimed than Iggy but Iggy sold more so do sales really matter?
Oh hunty TinkTink wish she had Iggy’s career.
Funny how more people checking for iggy than Tinashe flop ciara wannabe ass
LOL her next single should be 2 OFF
WONDER WHERE THE TINASHE STAN IS HIDING NOW
They’re probably to busy listening to the critically acclaimed album…
DEATH!!!!
Wow Keyshia, it seems like her career has been going down the drain since she dissed the Queen. She’s done tons of promo. Guess the every one is over Ms. Cole
I’m not surprised with Tinashe’s sales, I knew her sales would flop, but didn’t know it was going to flop this bad. She is bringing nothing new to the table and will fizzle out soon. She got lucky with 2 on. Heard her album was good, but didn’t care to listen to it. I guess most people downloaded for free.
Cierror’s lessors 😀 😀
Truth T
Howz cici and aerial dad future doin hun?? U know he fu ck riri. That y they made that song Love and Affection so IMAGINE the irony of it all when cici said someone need to point rhi in the direction of love and affection considering Rhi was prolly popnpussy on futures diickk as she was sayn it. Thats y rhi(satan) was guving cici such a hard time…she was fucckn her man. Now check THAT! kii.
So basically you saying Rihanna is a h o e …..lol we all know that alreAdy.
This is why new stans should learn to humble themselves when they come on blogs like TGJ cos we all know this is the biggest black r&b blog that everyone reads so all the other stans saw the Tinashe fan come on here and drag everyone’s faves. Now you turned them away when they could have helped your fave do more than 18k lol.
You have well and truly been embarrassed boo boo.
oh please Jason derulo is the biggest male flop he doesn’t even have a GOLD ALBUM SO shut the fuckkkk up
But he has numerous hit singles. Is 2 On even certified yet?
The New York Times said Tinashe was “coming for Beyonce’s spot”… I mean these are the same people that said Beyonce is “no Ashanti”…
I saw that too, and I laughed my ass off last night. They had to have been joking! loool
HAAAAA WTF????
Even Rita whora would’ve sold more than Flopnashe
Call me when Vince can afford to buy Tamar’s singles and albums again. #IRS #NumberOneOniTunesButNotEvenTop50OnMainChart.
Your use of hashtags here indicates your level of intelligence.
Lol
Flops, god this is tragic. The industry truly is one big flop.
I am laughing so hard right now but not at Tinashe. She’s just a young girl trying to do her thing but we all saw how someone from her team came here and disrespected all of us for no reason because they thought we wouldn’t clock they were a troll. Too bad you forgot to change your password and we all saw you were cosigning your own comments with different accounts.
Don’t you feel ashamed of yourself? Don’t you think you owe us an apology? You had the nerve to call Ciara a flop when she has NEVER sold as low as this in her life.
I have three words for you dear.
SHAME.
ON.
YOU.
SCREEAAAAMING.
Album sales are absolutely atrocious, shout out to Jason Aldean I hope sells past that 310k. Streaming had destroyed music sales. Everyone is talking about critical acclaim > sales. But at the end of the day what good is it to make good music if your not making any money off of it. Non of these artist will be given a chance to do a successful arena tour because no sponsor is gonna take a risk on them if they can’t even sale music. Streaming is only one if the causes. Personally of I was an artist I wouldn’t allow my music/album to be streamed until a month after it’s been released.
Tinashe is a new girl and she has so much potential so I’m not mad at the sales. By the way, do I see Iggy and Ciara fans laughing when both they’re new albums are floppity flip flopping all over the charts. Yeah I f****** thought so.
B**** atleast they sold more than 17k first week lol
Album sales mean less and less anymore – Aquarius is a dope album period. 2 On is a radio smash, the rest of the album isn’t radio tempo – it is head and shoulders above the pop-dance-hiphop radio formula s*** radio requires anymore. Listen to it in full and try to tell me that album isn’t quality – i DARE you.
P.S.Look at the Billboard top 5 songs – All terrible. Sales does not equate to quality.
Tinashe is an artist not a puppet
Boy bye! You made that the hell up. She is no more of an artist than Kreayshawn
You are seriously in denial. Music critics have said that for having a club ready track like 2 on, one of the most unique things about her album is that it doesn’t start off with party songs which is the norm of today’s artists, showing her uniqueness at the beginning
Lenny YOU are in denial! She can’t sing, she can’t dance and she most certainly sell albums. She should have just called that album “A Bish Can’t”
WOW THERE IS A WEEZY STAN HERE LOL WONDER HOW THE CARTER 5 WILL DO ESPECIALLY SINCE TAYLOR SWIFT IS DROPPING HER ALBUM ON THE SAME DAY
Flopnashe…
Crying at these pathetic ass numbers. Tinashe will never know what its like having mainstream success she got lucky with 2 on. Hilarious though yall said she’d take Ciaras place cici never sold under 30k Tinashe can’t even do 20k kiiiii
Commercial artists are supposed to SELL! That is their job so there is no excuse for flopping when so much money has gone into helping her to SELL. It’s not as though Tinashe didn’t have radio on her side because she did. People like her but not enough to buy her albums and her fans need to accept that and look forward to the next era.
Not the Tinashe fans making out as though she’s anybody’s India Arie. She wants to be a huge celebrity/ super star but can’t get the sales to make it happen because she only has one hit song that isn’t even certified. Better luck next time Mini Me.
you are mya stan wasn’t she destiny’s child , Aaliyah , Brandy And Monica’s LESSOR HAHAHA she is a FLOP As well and she only had a little bit of relevance because of lady marmalade
Were you saying something? I was too busy polishing Mya’s GRAMMY to hear you.
Oh come on guys lets not act surprise. Jhene managed to do 70k. Tinashe is just so predictable and bland star wise. People like a bit of uniqueness. You don’t have to be pretty, in fact the more authentic you are the better.. Look at Lorde. But Tinashes album is nice though. But she just hasn’t got that factor that makes you look or listen twice. She’s just ‘cute’.
I agree with this whole heartedly. Her album is great… I just CAN’T get with her for some reason… I can’t even put my finger on it… I wish her well but I KNEW this was gonna be the outcome… I said 20k at most and tadaaaa… So sad… :sips and reads “flops weekly”:
Right, Tinashe is “bland and predictable” but yet Jhene has been criticized for her album being “bland and predictable” with no variety from song to song. You have it backwards. You need an “image” to sell an album these days and for Jhene her image is just being the female version of Drake that’s broken hearted. At least music critics are all admitting that Tinashe has potential to become even bigger.
why are Ciara , tamar ,iggy, and Kelly stans trying to talk shittt when none of them bitttchess have certifications or a decent career all them hoess are MANLY UGLY FLOPS
Tamar is the only one that had had a Platinum certification, Love and war the single is Platinum and the one is gold
no she not she is not listed on riaa .com I been checked the website on the certifications portions and she has never popped up
How many copies did Fancy sell? Kelly & Tamar most def has certifications. 2 OFF
Wait she couldn’t even outsell Stale Aiko? hahahahahahaha
Shes like a ebt version of ciara anyways
#FLOPNASHE!!!!
And I don’t think not having a full album stream would have made any difference. She’s just not attention grabbing.
Honestly I think ppl are missing the bigger picture here…the reason artist aren’t selling well is because illegal downloading is increasing mediocre promotion and these friggin Stan wars…
EXACTLY
But the way Jhene’s slay is set up though.
No hun, Tinashe is boring and that’s why nobody is here for. If anything stan wars helped to get her name out there.
Why Bey Stan’s so ignorant, NO ARTIST that is releasing this week is selling over 50k except for 2. This has nothing to do with Tinashe. Hell she is basically unknown outsell the small little urban world.
@Skyfall stop. Explain why Jhene managed to do 70k with a full album stream beforehand then.
Girl bye, people were still selling in 2010 2011 2012 and 2013 sales just became atrocious this year. It’s due to streaming people can listen to a whole album for free without wasting the space on their phone or computer to illegally download it.
Tinashe would not have sold over 20k even minus an album stream. She’s just not interesting, that’s why she’s not selling. Even jhene managed to sell 70k.
Sorry there Shirley I have to disagree sure there have been several artist that have sold well in the last couple of years but I do feel Stan wars party a factor ppl are so stuck on one or two artist that they don’t like to venture out
Where do Nicki fans get off laughing when she is basically the laughing stock of the industry. And don’t get me started on Iggy Payolazela and her culture appropriating racist ass. When it comes to Ciara I’m just like Future and have nothing to say to her so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
SEETH! 17K 2 OFF
Taylor swift fans unite for the 27th of October is coming. Show your support by buying Taylor’s new album. Let’s get her too number 1
If Taylor swift sales more than 1 million again he’ll even 800k+ I will give her her props, considering what has happen to album sales.
I DONT THINK SHE WILL SELL A MILLION FIRST WEEK BUT THEN AGAIN WHITE PEOPLE REALLY GO OUT AND SUPPORT THEIR FAVS
Obviously not if no album is certified Platinum this year, and no artist is selling more than 60k weekly except for a handful. She just a large fan base because her music isn’t inappropriate and she’s supposed country.
Oh really, then explain Gaga, J.lo, Britney and so many rock bands low sales? Stop with the Whites buy and Black don’t. Cause if you do a lil google search, MUSIC isn’t selling. The business will be dead in a matter of 5 years.
Taylor Swift will sell over 1 million! The only people who buy albums today are white people…. thats why r&b and hiphop albums aren’t selling but Jason Aldean, Taylor Swift etc sell big numbers. Its not a coincidence that the best selling rapper is a white man.
LMAOOOOOOO Funny how yall were bragging about 2 ON ha success, now shes flopping. Jhene did 70k without a hit or promo lmaooo Jhene wins >
I still don’t get why Ciara fans are talking when she has had 3 flop consective albums that don’t even add up to 500k
The fact that Tinashe is more relevant than Ciara is why you h*** are so pressed. Tinashe had Lena Dunham talking about how good the album is but Ciara can’t even get her own label to put out her own single after she put out the single cover and said it was dropping.
That’s why the C Section are so mad at the Queen but don’t Overdose on the hate b******.
A Queen who can’t even sell over 20k with a hit single. OK.
but brandy peak during never say never remember and then in the 2000’s that lair who lied abo being married was replaced by Alicia keys, ashanti, amerie and the other girls who came out around the time full moon came out and that album underperformed
why is a mya stan in here your fav is the forgotten rnb girl lady marmalade gave her relevance in 2001 and then when it was done they threw her ass back in the gutter
see now this s why Keyshia needed a label. Interscope didnt promote or a&r HER CD.
She needs an exec producer to help her. Did she do any tv aside from BET??? Chile
Good luck with the next label Keyshia cuz those songs on this CD were awful
@Jewel
I was talking about album sales altogether, not just Tinashe. streaming is why album sales have decreased significantly NOT illegal downloading.
You said it has nothing to do with Tinashe. It really does. She is uninspiring that’s why she’s not selling over 20k. That is massive flop you cannot blame on just streaming. As we have seen, people can still sell over 50k with an album stream.
WellJhene Aikido sold 34,000 with her LP , then her album sold 70,000 copies
Tinashe could experience something similar with this second album she’s working on.
As of January 2014, “Body Party” has sold 552,000 digital copies in the US. Released March 8, 2013
As of August 8, 2014, “2 On” has sold 473,000 downloads in the US. Released January 21, 2014
OK??? A shorter amount of time b!tches and it’s catching up!!!
I already knew tinashe was going to flop don’t nobody know her or care about but what got me hot is that all these flop fan bases are trying to drag her if your not the hive or the navy you shouldn’t even have an opinion
The RIAA are gonna have to change the certification for album sales:
750k = Platinum
375k = Gold
250k = Silver
Nope, let it be. If you can’t pass those marks, then you don’t. Then again, seeing how no 2014 album went plat, hell I’m sure only a few went gold, maybe so. I’d say:
500K Platinum
250k gold
100k silver
5 million diamond
But haven’t anyone else notice that even singles aren’t selling like they used to, I mean they are selling significantly well but Even singles are selling at a slower pace
There is no way this album should be under 100k, After the promo and having a hit single, and yet Ashanti sells without having a major label backing her, and no hits.. This album won’t even see 250k.. She’s gonna need a bigger hit than 2 on to sell more copies.
ASHANTI 5TH STUDIO ALBUM
TINASHE DEBUT ALBUM
THAT WAS A VERY POINTLESS COMPARISON
How is that a pointless comparison? Ashanti does not have a major label backing her, and nor did she have ANY hit singles rotating on radio, and her sales were pathetic as well.
Tinashe on the other hand is suppose to be this new “it” girl. With a hit single. and she can’t sell more 20k All that promo and she can’t outsell an old washed up R&B girl?? kii
Why are we acting brand new? 1) I didn’t even know that Cole dropped an album. She even said it herself that the label wasn’t behind this era and that’s why it’s her last album with them. 2) Even artists with the biggest hits are selling p*** poor. It’s a singles age, no one wants to get to know a full body of work. The days of having your car/cd player/stereo limited to ONE CD is dead and gone. Now people just want to play hits or their favorite songs and have access to their whole music library. All genres are selling less and less expect for a few (and I mean like less than 20 artist). 3)Tinashe album is great, but the promo was everywhere. 2On was a hit, but didn’t give you a preview of the theme of the album. i’m sure half thought it was gonna be an urban album with the way 2On was promoted. She has a core fan base, so I’m sure with time she’ll hit 100K or like some said, create buzz and bring out the 2nd album. I see why Streeter and Mila J released LP’s and not albums yet. I even stated in the past that her light skin will get her out faster, but not farther. 4) I told y’all BraveHeart had great numbers for an inde artist. R&b artist (that can write and produce) should just go inde, so we can get good music.
When is Aliyah releasing an album?
Troll
but you stan for katy who doesn’t even have mult-platinum album and remember when birthday slipped down the charts and remember when that s**** tried to copy Britney jean dress at the vmas and remember when gaga read her smelly ugly ass for filth
One Of The Boys – 1,473,000
Teenage Dream -2,800,000
PRISM – 1,303,000
U were sayin?
Katy Hudson 100k.
It will be interesting to see what your Taylor’s, Adele’s and Bruno’s will do with their next releases.
Stop acting like they can’t flop. Swift ditched her country fans, so I don’t see her selling passed 500K next go round. Adele has a very high standard to match, I see her doing 500k to 600k the first week.
Excuse you? How did I act in any way? Stop making assumptions. That’s why I said it will be INTERESTING.
Oh ok. I guess I misread it. I been seeing tones of Adele and Taylor this and that and I just be like, “At one time, Usher, MC, Britney and so many others were huge album selling too. and now look.
Yep, I agree. People love to cling to certain artists like that because of their sales. As soon as they start going downhill, everyone jumps ship.
Makes you wonder doesn’t it. Ashanti is outselling girls who are slaying on radio, book major tv gigs and even perform at major award shows.
has that ugly country bumpkin passed the 7th grade yet with her ugly m***** no reading dont even know what 12 * 12 is ass and that bittchhh is a flop as well
Yikes!!! Poor Tinashe, her album slays tho. As for the other one, im screaming!
Seriously, I now question what the industry is going go do. If established divas and acts like JLO, Mariah, Toni, MJB, & etc are selling 8k-66k and new/newer acts like Jason, Jhenè, August, Kid Ink and etc. with heavy rotation are doing under or around 80k, what are they to do? Seriously, I don’t know how any stans can drag others, because between streaming to the number on the HOT 100 and other gimmicks, no one has the right. #RIP Music
RIP music BIZZ. the same bizz that been ripping off artists for decades. Music isn’t dead, it’s more free and alive than ever.
True
The sad thing is they have away Keyshia ‘ album on Wendy Williams…
The noise I just let out.
All of the s***-talking her stans did you would’ve thought she could at least do 30K. ALL of my faves did more than that.
But why is Lana struggling to hit gold
Not when This Is How We Payola still hasn’t sold 400K.
They flopped hard especially the Tin chick but I figured that no one knows her
Ciara is no longer the biggest flop
Says a Big Bird Stan…
Keris albums are certified stupid try again
I really don’t see the problem with Tinashe’s sales other than being about just 5,000 less than I expected. People keep saying how Rihanna sells more but forget that Rihanna’s debut album debuted at #10 and sold 69,000 first week back in 2005 with 1 hit song and look at her now. Or how about a more closer look at Robin Thicke, who is more into the R&B genre than Rihanna, who sold an album this year with only 24,000 copies debuting at #9 back in July of this year, less than a year after the biggest song of his career AND one of the biggest songs of 2013 with Blurred Lines. Even if his Paula album was just about Paula and nothing else, that 24,000 first week is still NO EXCUSE to be made there. All Tinashe needs to do is get back in the studio and begin work on album #2 immediately and continue to collaborate with other established artists, whether being on features or writing songs for them (maybe write songs for Rihanna’s, Ciara’s AND Beyoncé’s next albums, since yall think album sales mean talent) and she will have a brand as big as them.
She’s working on her second album now
Who the heck would take songs from Tink Tink aka 2 OFF aka Floppy Bird?!?!
I find it funny that these artist landed a deal, recorded an album, sold the album, getting checks, performing shows, landing endorsement deals, and are living their dreams, but the person from behind the computer who more than likely has not accomplished as much or anything at all, is calling them a FLOP. And, what makes it even more of a sad day in Sadville is these folks cling to another person success to use as amunition.
Death at Alex & Sierra doing more, but those numbers are expected. And Taylor’s projected to do 1 million first week according to hdd mark.
How do you sell less than Weezer/ S
/ Stevie Nicks?? How do you sell the same
as Jackson Browne??
None of these acts, have had a mainstream
hit in 10+ years (at least!)!!
Tinashe should be fine. At least, she is just
starting out, and can build a fan base.
Keyshia on the other hand, should be in her
prime sales by this time in her career. This
does not bode well for her, in particular..
Flop this, flop that, flop, flop, flop. Aren’t you people tired of that word yet? lol
Honestly, Keyshia’s album isnt very good. It sounds like she just recorded the album to fulfill her contractual obligations to Interscope. She didn’t put much effort into it and it shows.
Where is lady gaga former number 1? She forget to buy another 20K of her album?
Forgot to mention, GREAT numbers for Hozier. I don’t think Take Me To Church is even top 40 in the US yet. Columbia is great with promo so I wouldn’t be surprised if his album becomes a sleeper hit.
Betty flopped tho
Mess @ HDD having no predictions for her.
The way my jaw dropped! #PrayForTinasheStans. No more dragging of Ciara, Kelly, Ashanti…no one!
What about britney Jean?
I love you too.
Keyshia is a thing of the past. Tinashe’s album is everything!!! I’ve listened to it in its entirety and have fallen in love with her ability to blend different sounds. Moreover I feel like these numbers are underwhelming. Pretend was given away for free, which was a ploy to put people on to her. Not a bad song, however not single material. Then her album is only 8 bucks!? Half of the track list consist of interludes. In my opinion it’s a rocky start but this won’t be the last for Tinashe. It seems like they are giving her a test run or something. She might actually succeed at what Rita Ora couldn’t.
Ora is succeeding tho
Not musically. She is barely passing by. She has yet to have a ground breaking record to her name. She is known more for breaking rob kardashians heart than anything else. She was suppose to be roc nations next big thing however she has ended up a feature/cover artist. In my opinion she isn’t succeeding at what she truly wanted to in the beginning.
LOVEEEEEEEE this album! Dont care how much of a flop it will be. She did her THANG! And sidenote: Music this year has been awful even going into the fourth quarter. SMH I was hoping the holiday season would help but the only albums coming are Nicki’s and Taylor’s. No other big names tbh.
That’s an unfortunate fourth quater to me:(
Streaming has chipped into albums.. Downloading is down.
U need a smash single top ten, to move units..
Album sales physically are more significant
than digital albums in terms of overall sales..
Radio has become very slow with songs..
They should stop streaming albums, and
set there eras up properly.. Promo has also
become to scattered in the music industry..
So true about streaming. Thats a move tinashe shouldn’t have made.
Wait, Hozier is on SNL this week. He might do 60K.
Is lana even gold yet? Stfu
Is Rihfund S**-free?
So the last album to hit double platinum or Platinum is flopyonces? I am pressed tbh won’t lie. F*** this industry f*** hoeyonce f*** that b****, but she bought her albums so its pointless. R8 is coming for careers, yall faves won’t survive ummm who’s tinashe?
Katy Perry needs to outsell BEYONCE so that the hive can stfu
are you the H** from twitter??
Beyoncé can’t even sell 5Million WW but she’s the “queen” right no #1 since 2008 but she’s the “queen”. Her record sales are basic for a “King”
Tinashe did what she wanted, which was to get her name out there. Now she can work on a second album and hopefully build on this momentum.
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IMO she should have gone the Syven Strutter/Jhene Aiko route of releasing an EP first, and then an album.
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But her name is out there, hopefully she can build on this, baby steps.
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Keyshia gurl, well I don’t know. I like some songs off of the album though but selling less than K.Michelle? Well in her defense, nobody really knew she was releasing an album, there was like little promo.
The label didn’t back Cole because it was her last album with them and they weren’t gonna back her so she can get a better deal somewhere else. You think you know shade? There’s nothing more shady than the music bizz. Example, when MC left Colombia, her next project (Glitter) flopped cause the netowrk of people she worked with in the 90’s stopped. So with Def Jam, she had to get a new team and build a new netowrk. That’s why her comeback wasn’t til 05 with EoMM. And Colombia gave MC’s old connections to J.Lo. We’re seeing this with Def Jam with Iggy. Def Jam pretty much gave Iggy Rihanna’s old network (with Def Jam). Rihanna’s team was great at getting hits, now that she’s gone, they’re giving that access to Iggy.
I’m shocked at how badly albums are selling though, I mean this is the 4th quarter, this is when albums are supposed to sell well.
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I guess there is just too much saturation in the market this time around, who knows.
WELL RHIANNA ALL EYES ON YOU…LIL MOMMY…R8 COMING SOON
Idk how true it is but it’s been trending on insta!!! The single supposedly drops this month and the release is on the 25th of November!!! The shade is real. the flop print won’t see daylight.
She’ll be lucky if she sees platinum. She’s never seeing mufti platinum like Beyonce. All eyes are on the real sellers like Taylor.
She has a few platinum albums though? Soooo your point. She will outsell beys.
Lol. Bookmarked
Congrats to them all.
Well the business plan for the music bizz has changed, streaming will take over, and since that is the route everyone is taking, set up that YouTube page and release that way through social media (Tumblr, Twitter, and all the other social media loose bottoms are obsessed with).
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At least releasing independently, you keep 100% of all the sales, save for the cut Apple gets; and if you have enough fans, you can go on tour (Todrick Hall, Miranda Sings, Lisa Lavie, Boyce Avenue).
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Ashanti – Braveheart ($10.49 x 20,000) = $209,800
Ciara – Ciara ($7.99 x 52,000)(.07 artist royalties) = $29,083.60
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The math just adds up, especially considering the infrastructure for independent releases is there. Just go that route and build a core fan base that way.
@Mark111, Tinashe is pretty enough to get that a cute endorsement, plus her image is squeaky clean. She has got her name out there and her album has received universal critical acclaim, it is all up to her now.
True, she’ll be fine. I can see her doing promo til next year. Do you find it funny the two years Rihanna didn’t release an album, the whole bizz is falling apart? Last year no Black artist had a #1, this year no album went plat. Yet they call the girl that gets a #1 and go plat each year a flop? lol
So BEYONCE and FROZEN are the ONLY albums from the past year to have gone multi-Platinum? Whatt? Damn 🙁
Nobody even knows or cares about the Tinashe girl. She’s just another no name club banger artist like the majority of today’s rappers. I wish her much longevity. Keyshia….gworl no words.
Clearly you haven’t done any of your research on Tinashe. 2 On sounds nothing like the rest of her album except for “All Hands On Deck.” Everything else on the album is stricly R&B. Her mix tapes are not bangers, they’re R&B.
Keyshia didn’t put any effort into this album you can tell by just listening which given her circumstance I understand so I’ll wait until her next album and just bypass this 1…its time for a change in the industry, labels and artist need to really figure out a way to make the digital age work for them…to start off I would do away with physical albums and just have artist start releasing digitally.
OMG, im GAGGING!
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Shame on the Tinashe stans gloating that she would do between 60-80k
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I wont give her too much tho, because its a “decent” album or whatever, but HAWNY!!!!!!!!!
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And Miss Keyshia should have waited to release during her reality show, Like WTF is wrong with her management and label not cooperating and thinking of this!
Well, I guess thats it, Taylor and Adele have to bring IT!
Nicki….. Gworl Im scared for you with singles like Anaconda & PNP….
Death @ Keyshia. Tinashe will fizzle out unless she changes drastically.
Wow this is sad sad sad. Now the 60k copies Mariah sold first week with almost no prmo don´t look that bad. The idustry is disappearing. This Keysia girl sold like 100k copies last go round if I remember correctly. It´s too much decline after just 1 or 2 years. It´s not her or any other right now. It´s the industry disppearing. Yes there are still like 5 artist who can sell some copies (above 100,000) and that´s it. Sad sad sad.