The music landscape is changing at the speed of light.
In recent times, a major catalyst for said shapeshifting has been the advent of streaming.
Indeed, in the last 18 months, chart and plaque certifications in major markets such as the US and UK have been revised to factor in on-demand streams.
The latest entity to embrace the format is the Grammy Awards.
In a press statement issued to That Grape Juice and other outlets, organisers for music’s most prestigious night revealed amended rules – which are notably stream-friendly.
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As outlined in detail below, steam-only releases such as Kanye West’s ‘The Life Of Pablo’ and Chance The Rapper‘s ‘Coloring Book’ will now be eligible for the coveted gramophones. A practice previously not permitted in years gone:
Streaming-Only Recordings Now Eligible
Previous eligibility guidelines required recordings to be commercially available via general distribution or digital recordings/downloads, thereby precluding works released solely through streaming services. The eligibility guidelines have been revised to include recordings released via streaming platforms, and are updated as follows:
- Release Date: Recordings (albums/singles) must be available to the public nationwide as stand-alone purchases or streams between Oct. 1, 2015, and Sept. 30, 2016. Imports are not eligible.
- General Distribution: Works must be released via general distribution, defined as the nationwide release of a recording via brick and mortar, third-party online retailers, and/or applicable digital streaming services. Applicable streaming services are paid subscription, full catalogue, on-demand streaming/limited download platforms that have existed as such within the United States for at least one full year as of the submission deadline. All recordings entered must have an assigned International Standard Recording Code (ISRC).
Digital Recordings: Recordings released nationwide via download or streaming service must have quality comparable to at least 16-bit 44.1 kHz. Submissions sent to The Academy for consideration must also include both the original file and the product, proper label credits (producer, mixer, songwriter, etc.) in the metadata file, and a verifiable online release date.
Other changes to the Grammy rulebook include a decrease in the number of categories members can vote in. A move designed to do-away with the practice of genre novices contributing to the count for material they know little about.
The Best New Artist category has also been tweaked to do away with the “must have released an album” requirement. Now, contenders simply need to have released a minimum of 5 tracks (or one album) – but no more than 30 singles (or three albums).
Still, streaming remains the most profound adjustment.
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The change forms part of a clear initiative by industry forces to normalise the streaming format – both commercially and critically.
Though resistance has been rife, it’s apparent that things are will only continue to veer in this direction. And we’re not mad at it. At least when it comes to awards.
Just like when an album would leak “back in the day,” once material is out there…it’s out there. As such, if released legally on streaming services such as the Spotify’s, Apple Music’s, and TIDAL‘s, then why not be eligible award consideration? They are genuine consumption platforms after all.
Our streaming gripe has always been with “free” plays counting towards certifications – simply because it clouds the true picture of who is “winning” and whose success is largely smoke and mirrors. More importantly, it doesn’t confirm whether listeners legitimately support what they hit play on or are merely checking out of interest. The latter is an issue because big budgets can effectively “buy” attention and inquisitiveness (which lead to plays), but can’t accurately relay whether the consumer even liked it. Something downloads arguably can.
Anyway, enough of our rambling…
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Grammys has always been about quality not sales, so I see no problem with qualifying stream-only albums.
Lies it’s about politics and popularity.
Just because your fave has only been able to pick up one award piggybacking on Missy Elliot doesn’t mean the entire ceremony is based on politics.
Like most of your faves Grammys are piggybacking off of rappers? Girl drink urine.
Speak that truth @ Jackie.
It’s definitely politics and popularity.
Ciara don’t make a hit unless she piggy backing lls. ?. Atleast Rihanna has hits! Which some are assisted and some are solo. Regardless she makes the song a hit. So stop. Jackie got sit down somewhere. Your fave get one measly modeling contract and you been up on high horse. She’s been dropped! We can stop talking about her music. It has no influence on anyone ?. Moreover I agree! Streams should count. It shows everyday rotation of specific music. Yes what’s popular. It goes hand in hand. So I don’t understand why bring up its about popularity. It sure is! I agree! What’s being played the most is popular. Therefore it deserves to be rewarded. If this is the case Rihanna is sweeping next year. Guarantee she’s going home with a few.
The Grammys is b******* truthfully ? Hopefully 2017 will be better! Hopefully these nominees will be fair and the winners will actually be for people who deserve it !
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Great. But Keri Hilson still couldn’t win one tho.
If your thief of a fave can win a songwriting award then anything is possible for legitimate and truly talented artists.
Keri’s new snippets are fire!!! Can’t wait until her return!!!
And people still rant and ramble about the significance of “streaming”?
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LMAO.
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Anyway, this is great news!
I think artist shouldn’t release their music on streaming sites until a few weeks or months after release.
@ Skyfall… Not hating on Rihanna just speaking the truth, the Grammys never gives her albums love.
@ Jackie…. You’re welcome ?
It is your fav’s only saving grace after all. Without it, and Samsung, well, you know the deal. I mean, just look at her over seas sales.
Anti= Epic flop.
The Grammys always pay Rihanna’s albums dust. Majority of her Grammys are features (Eminem, Jay-z, and Kanye) without those 3 names she would barley have any. I don’t think streaming will help her album as a whole winning anything. How “Work” will be a strong contender for (Song Of The Year, Record Of The Year, and Best Pop Vocal Performance).
ANTi = over 1m copies WW.
And that’s as far as it’s going to go. Anti’s a flop.
Death @ Beystan. That f** had the nerve to come for Ciara when 95% of her Grammys are courtesy of a rapper. Bye Felicia.
Anti = yet to reach 500K in pure sales domestically. What kind of ArtPop sized disaster?!!
But Anti has sold more than Ciara’s last four albums combined?
Ci mans last two albums combined haven’t sold 500k ????
Anti has been streamed more times than Jackie
Anti has produced more certifications than Jackie
Anti has sold more WW than Jackie
Anti has singles that have out peaked all of the singles from Jackie
Anti has produced more vevo views than all the videos from Jackie
Anti has sold more than Jackie first week
Anti has outsold Jackie’s first week sales in its third week
@Jackie
Are you really that surprised??? You’ll never learn lol smdh
Ciara this, Ciara that. Regardless of her underperformances, Anti has still YET to cross 500K pure sales with multiple top 10’s and 20’s and a 9 week long #1. How’s that tour doing? I hear she’s struggling to fill 12K arenas overseas. #FADING
But CI MAN had a semi relevant single in Body Party and his album still sold 100k TOTAL ???????????what happened “FAF”? You won’t find CITRANNY on any album chart or with ANY certification even with streams. No one even wants to stream his albums. Why is that “FAF”?
WHILE QUEEN ROBYN WAS PERFORMING, CITRnny was PRESENTING and INTRODUCING the REAL artists at the BILLBOARD AWARDS.
WHY FAF?
Cryinggg first I was Molly, then I was CinnamonGirl now I’m FAF. Ciara isn’t a “major popstar” like your crackhead fav. Shouldn’t little miss sunshine be doing Beyonce numbers AT LEAST! #AntiIsAFLOP
@Jackie
On that I agree. Anti is a big flop. Artpop now that you mention it did much better against all odds. Any other of these girls with a supposed big long-running hit like Rihanna just had would have sold really well. Rihanna just cannot sell an album.
This is good, As long as technology is changing so will the rules and ways of how music is consumed and purchased. While many may consider things unfair, cheating, or even site payola streaming is the future much like digital & Itunes were less than 10yrs ago. It will be interesting to see how this will play into this years “TOP STREAMING ARTIST I.E. Drake & Beyonce getting awards this time around
Will this help R&B artists tho ? ??
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why would anything chart relevant matter at all?!?
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think about that.
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you know that’s bs. you can add more categories for newcommers, but they gon’ give that streaming crap to the same old mofo’s. it’s more useless hype for charted crap. the grammy lie bs is obvious. could ditch that.
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close the door @grammys. 😛
Can you not read, this is for stream ONLY albums.
no… i didn’t read that. i only read headlines and look at pictures. 😛
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and then… i dunno what kanye is doing as the picture. will he bag that one… already. set in stone? dunno don’t care. why do that tho. pointless. just fakery for awards.
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blah…
Im here for ANTI as album of the year. Whoever wins i hope its someone deserving and not jus an overated overhyped album
Keeping dreaming, Just like you keep on dreaming Keri will have a come back lol!
Just for the sake of being petty! “Lemonade” is the best reviewed album of the year and sold better without needing a cellphone company or Beyonce’s husband to save the day!
Anti was so “anticipated” yet if only sold 460 copies out the gate and stalling at 500k. Whoop whomp!
But Beyoncé did use her husband…. See “Lemonade” for more.. This bîtch is happily yet used her husband to sell albums bashing his name
Happily married*
Truthfully if a album is good its good. It doesnt matter how much they sold its about the quality of the music. Anti and Lemonade were good albums. Two different genres of music. I wish yall fanbases would stop trying to tear down two successful black women. When are yall going to understand we are our biggest problem. Black girl Magic. when they win we win!!
Jj
Rihanna piggypacks for Grammys? Yet the majority of her wins or nominations were as HER leading or Co-Leading.
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Rihanna’s Grammy Wins
– Umbrella (Lead Artist)
– Run This Town (2 Wins )
– Only Girl (In The World)
– All of The Lights
– We Found Love
– Unapologetic
– The Monster
Clock them. They sound so dumb . how is it piggyback when she’s the lead artist or one of two of the artists on a song ?
@Keri stain….. Where are Keri’s Grammys?
All I see are bunch of songs featuring (Jay-z, Kanye, and Slim Shady). 8 generic albums and only one of them Won a Grammys. The struggle is real! Take away Run this town which is Jay-a she would only have 6. Take away Monster she would only have 5. Take away All the lights she would only have 4. The struggle is real
21 Grammys>>>>>>>
Rihanna wrote her parts in run this town so she got a grammy for writing credit as well
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Rihanna is the greatest songwriter in history.
Passing around bucket for hive tears, they’ll be extra warm from all the seething
Yasss boo
Seething from what? Rihanna purchased certifications? Rihanna pitiful pure sales? Rihanna’s underperforming tour? What exactly is the hive seething over. “Lemonade” will drag Anti at the Grammys and (The Navy) will once again be the ones seething with excuses!
@Keri Stan…. Where is Keri’s singles, album, platinum plaques, tours, Grammys, and impact? Did Keri ever make it down the aisle or is her boyfriend still stringing her along?
“Umbrella” and “Run this town” feature Jay-z & Kanye)
“All of the lights ” (Kanye)
“Monster” (Eminem)
“Unapologetic” won however out of 8 album on 1 got an award which proves my point. Rihanna only gets Grammys when she features. Her solo wins are far and between. A hit dog will holler!
Gurl hush and stop being bitter
That’s like saying Beyonce only wins in the black categories.
Stop trying to bring another persons achievements down at the end of the day she has accomplished what a lot of her peers have failed to do . SMH
You mad? You pressed? You gassy? You constipated? You bloated? Or are you all of the above…. Either way I don’t care I spoke the truth and clealry you can’t accept it. Have a good day ?
Kiii spill tea a bit sis! Smokeandmirrorshanna is a JOKE!
Lmao says the Ciara Stan. The mods should ban you for stanning for such. She’s doesn’t even make music she’s a television host now. I can’t think of the last time Ciara was nominated for anything.
They always try and accommodate those who have the power/influence not necessarily the talent.smh
#nopurchasedgrammys
Or winning only in the RnB categories, some people actually win in the categories with real competition.
@ Loose Booty
Rihanna is no completion for Beyonce which is why she has never beat her in any major category. I would be mad to if my fav been working as a label s**** churning out generic albums and they only recongize her when she collaborates with rappers
21>>>> 8
Meanwhile Keri’s couldn’t even win a Grammy! Further more you have NO PROOF of anybody being able to buy Grammys. The only thing purchase around here are Rihanna’s albums and her certifications!
The h/i/v and that other irrelevant troll are delusional.
The songs that Rihanna allegedly was clinging to rappers to win Grammy’s for are some of their best selling songs because of Rihanna. Love the way you lie is eminems best selling song. Which is why he again collaborated with her on monster and on his tour. Run this town is Jays 2nd highest charting song as a lead artist.
And Rihanna is the common denominator here. And you’re DELUSIONAL if you think Jay made Umbrella.
Such a bad year to be a pest. Streaming is here and guess this year’s most streamed album… Anti is a success all across the board. Lol ????
It is not a success all across the board. Her pure sales suck…
remember ? lol
2 million WW sucks? 2M US sucks? Worry about your fave selling 50% of stadiums with her stage pulled up to the halfway line. More like the Field Goal Tour.
LMAOOOO SCREAMING @ THE FIELD GOAL TOUR LMAO!!!
2 million people didn’t purchase Anti #FACT
Formation is out grossing Anti by like 100 million dollars. So that s*** sounds stupid #AnotherFact
@Stretch Mark
Anti a success across the board? How?
Her first 3 singles flopped, She recycled Jay-z Samsung deal, Her albums sold 469 copies out the gate, Her pure sales stalling at 500k, Her album certifications are not legit, Her tour is struggling to sell in arenas (no stadiums status for her, her album flopped world wide, and her las test 2 single (needed me & Kiss it better went no where fast despite flashing her nipple everywhere). Success across the board my ass!
Kiii@ her first three singles flopped
Then what are the singles from Lemonade? BBHMM went platinum. Fourfiveseconds went double platinum. None of Lemonades singles have done that
@Koon Qween
You just need to worry about Keri Hilson’s dead ass career.
Field Goal tour is doing better than Anti tour and grossed over 100 million from 32 shows. Meanwhile Rihanna can’t even fill a stadium to save her career or album. Why Rihanna only reporting $18 million worth of tour gross after nearly 3 months?
Bey has this year’s most PURCHASED album and acclaimed album. We not worried.
#20grammys
#Mostnominated
#Sell-outstadiums
#460
#?>?
LOL NOW WATCH KOOLAID MAGICALLY APPEAR ON SPOTIFY IN THE COMING WEEKS LOL
Don’t need spotify! Lemonade is one of the most streamed album this year alone without it. Not to mention it sold more and faster then Anti without streams and false certifications
Lemonade did not hit double platinum so no it did not outsell Anti.
Anti isn’t even double platinum lol. F*** that false certification! BTW every album that Beyonce has released, aside from 4, has gone multi platinum. Lemonade is the highest selling release of 2016. So what honestly makes you think that Anti can compete?
Lemonade is the best selling album worldwide ..only! Not of 2016 stop your lies. And its BARELY outsold the rapper who isn’t as big worldwide Drake and it took 6 weeks to catch up to his worldwide sales.
Views has sold more in the US
You’re a f****** idiot.
NOT FIELD GOAL TOUR, DEATH!!!!!
I’m fo real.
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https://twitter.com/Rihsus_Christ/status/741710562002894848
Field Goal’s Tour Grossing > RLate’s Tour Grossing
Field Gial tour still slaying Anti tour and will be one the highest grossing tours of the year and all time!
#Staymad
Kool-Aid>>>> CAnti
Field Goal Tour >>>> RLate Tour
People lie! Numbers don’t! Lol and that’s all that matters.
I am DECEASED@ field goal tour
It took me a few seconds to get what that meant lmao
@Keri
How much did Keri’s “Walmart Roll Back Prices Tour” gross?
Just make sure Jays s**** recoups all the money it took for the 5,000 songwriters and producers she needed on her album and the boring movie.
Is Keri still a Walmart Club Member!???
Let them girls hate. When them pollster results come out in a few weeks them Navy stains won’t be laughing. Last I check Anti tour has only reported 18 million.
As long as it’s a half album or complete album then it’s cool. Streaming is overrated.
I’m only interested in them bringing back the male and female vocal categories. Men and women should not complete in the same solo vocal categories.
2016 – Most Streamed Artists:
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1) Drake – 1.4b
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2) Rihanna – 895m
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3) Kanye West – 752m
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4) Justin Bieber – 653m
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5) Beyonce – 592m
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For the 3rd year in a row, Drake and Rihanna will be the world’s top streaming artists – male and female.
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The GRAMMYS should be interesting next year.
Yasssss
Anti won’t be skating anything. “Work” is your only hope!
Field Goal is more successful than ANY tour that Rihanna has ever been on, that includes her Cubic Zirconium Tour. Let that sink in lessors.
“FourFiveSeconds is a flop” – Hive, peaked at #3
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“Singles from Koolaid” – BISH WER? peaked….unknown
And it was top 5 for over a month Vs Flopmation taking 3 months to chart and only a top 10 for a week.
SCREAMING, and where is “Sorry”, I thought it was supposed to be on its way up…hmmm
Stadium is sold out, I’ll just push my stage 3 quarters into the field to make it seem so for the cameras.
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Hive, “yassssss queen, sold out stadium tour”, even though there were plenty of tickets still available on ticketmaster.
Rihanna tweets her your is sold out even though (ticket master, YouTube, and pictures prove other wise). Formation will be the top tour of the summer and will slay Anti. That’s all that maters. Bey & Rih are guilty of spilling false tea about the tour. Bey is still slaying meanwhile Rihanna can’t even play in a stadium lol!
HA! B**** Rihanna can’t sell out anything that cost more than $1.99. None of her tours have cracked the top ten highest grossing tours by a female but you wanna talk about Bey!??
Katy Perry and Gaga have. Taylor swift has! So what’s Rihanna’s issue?
y’all come in here and argue about the same s*** everyday
You come in here and read the same comments then act like you above it all so hush!
@LB/SKYFALL/MARK111/KERI/NAVY…
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‘SPOTIFY’ just announced that ‘ANTI’ has surpassed streams of 975m WW as of last week on their server – it should surpass streams of “1bn” globally as of next month.
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THE MOST “STREAMED” ALBUMS OF ALL-TIME – GLOBALLY (SPOTIFY):
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1) X – Ed Sheeran – 1.5+ Billion.
2) Beauty Behind The Madness – The Weeknd – 1.4+ Billion.
3) VIEWS – Drake 1.2+ Billion.
4) Prism – Katy Perry – 1.1+ Billion.
5) ‘ANTI’ – Rihanna – 980m
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😉 😉 😉
Yasssss, looking forward to it passing Prism. Drake will be hard to beat but it’ll hopefully be able to beat Ed Sheeran.
Yyassss
And to think the hive tried to hide behind Katy Perry’s streams to shade Rih when Anti is only 5 months old and will surpass it in streams soon. ⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓⚓
So Anti made 80 million from Spotify, if it’s 8 cents per play.
On her label, not label s**** 7% royalties
OMG Too good is #3 on Spotify, so after this is what you came for hits #1 after the video drops, Rihanna can possibly have her 16th #1 this year. I cannot wait for the seething and tears from the hive.
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#8YearsAgo
Formation is about to be the highest grossing female tour of all time! of all time!
Spotify right now,
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TIWYCF #5
Needed me #4
Too Good #3,
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Slay
Yes
Formation Tour
479,894 / 479,894
(100%) $61,543,595
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Adele Live 2016 Tour
Total 189,252 / 189,252
(100%) $22,002,460
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AntiBudget Tour
209,808 / 228,016
(92%) $18,414,322
Tyler, if for every 1500 streams equal to 1 pure sale then how isn’t Rihanna 2 x platinum in pure sales in the US? Streaming is the future of the music industry, no one is doing Adele or Taylor Swift numbers regularly. People rather get a subscription to listen to any and unlimited amount of albums whenever they please, you can be bitter or delusional all you want but if both Grammies and RIAA (The receipts that HIVE uses to drag Rih and basically everyone who is not Beyonce) is recognizing Streaming then every other music outlet like Billboard will recognize the album sales as well. Who knows, if Bey is lucky then her fans can just stream her singles so she could get her 6th number 1 or maybe outsell Anti? 🙂
The Navy only listen’s to Rihanna’s music when they don’t have to pay for it. Lemonade is currently and will continue to outsell cAnti. Lemonade’s success was earned not assisted by some cellphone company. The general public actually BUYS Beyonce’s albums but you knew that already….
You are not listening Tyler. If Rihanna streamed over 980 million times then could you tell me how much she has SOLD if streaming 1500 times of an album equals to one pure sale plus on top of the 500K she has sold in physical sales? Beyonce did not beat Rih. She did not open with platinum sales in less than a week, she did not go 2xs platinum nor did she have a #1 single for 9 weeks on top of having countless of other singles making it to the top ten. People loved Anti, I haven’t met, seen or heard anyone say anything bad it was all love. However, Lemonade had a flop FREE HBO special (I don’t understand how people can pay to watch her live in concert but won’t sit down for free to watch her in their homes.. Smoke and mirrors?) She also said it was going to be more focused on black issues but her single Formation (which is a bop) was anything but rehashed Run the world girl anthem written by a man. She didn’t make anything groundbreaking that deserved nor was translated to help promote equality for black people. It was a failed attempt to be edgy and cool with the younger crowd, I mean I like the song but saying “Okay ladies, get in formation. You know you that b*** that cause all that conversation” was very much conceited. I wished she called out the hypocrisy of the privileged or at least made a video that was more thought out than a Born this way reject
No, I’m not listening. The same way that you don’t listen to Rihanna’s music unless its free…
Your shade doesn’t make any sense. In order to listen to her music then I would have to have a Tidal or any other music subscription so I am paying for it.
BUT
Since we are on the topic of free then how come the HIVE didn’t bother to tune in to the HBO free special of Lemonade? Does that mean Beyonce’s music isn’t even worth listening to? Don’t worry I’ll wait 🙂
Exactly ! They act like 1 stream= 1 album. 1500 streams = 1 album so yes these artists deserve recognition if consumers choose to have their albums on demand via Spotify, Tidal whatever.
The younger generation chooses streaming and they will have to deal. They’re just mad because it doesn’t benefit their thief of a fave.
You stan for Keri Hilson. That Black Balled table is that way >>>>>
Formation was already being dubbed to be the highest grossing tour of 2016. Before the album even dropped!
@KERI…
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Rihanna calmly remains the most streamed female artist for the past three years – globally.
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As of 2015, Rihanna had cumulative global streams of “14 BILLION WORLDWIDE” on SPOTIFY, more than any other female artist (although Katy Perry is second in terms of females with ‘9 Billion Global Streams’), and that is a record she will hold for a long time.
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These are facts and shall stay as such regardless.
Katy is her real competition in terms of streaming and singles, I am glad she is beating her.
The navy always remain stupid like their fav. Lemonade era is bigger than the anti era in every & anyway, be it album sales, streaming, tour(100M from 18 shows while rihanna’s 18M from 19 reported shows minus those not reported bcos numbers are shameful), metacritic, overall singles sales(aside from work selling 1.1M other single sales are sad unlike bey’s multiple singles selling over 500K) and most importantly lemonade having better lyrics/cohesiveness & more enjoyable than that bland directionless struggle timeless album.
The tour is HUGE, her album is not. It was just like her 4 albums where she did the Mrs Carter Show. I think people rather see Bey perform and that’s good because she could make her money that way
The album SUCKED . Without the visuals or hour long movie most people wouldn’t even care about it because the songs are boring by themselves. Rihanna would have sold more but she gifted a million albums to her fans while Beyonce gave her fans fake controversy to get them to buy her album.
Oh don’t mind Miss Tyra, he cannot afford a Spotify premium or Tidal subscription. He had to collect his pennies to afford Koolaid, and is scouting Groupon for a deal on the 984270918257 available Field goal tour tickets on Ticketmaster.
^^^ Hold my tongue in the name of Jesus! I know that this broke b**** did not just come for me ^^^
LooseBooty dont come for me in the comments because I’ll tell you about ya mom!!
LMAO Miss Tyra still has a dark skin victim mentality. Get over yourself buddy.
*stares at avi*
Lol You wanna be light skinned so bad.
You’re probably getting f***** in the ass by The Biracial Maid as we speak, with NO VASELINE.
Chile Tyler is so insecure and miserable
Your a racist.
And your insecure hahaha
Beats being a racist and a homophobe. You are crazy, have entitlement issues, and need serious evaluation
Not BET admitting Anti > Koolaid
But everybody knew that already though . lemonade is over hyped trash just like self titled was. Doesn’t mean its better
Anti is more well balanced. Lemon Pledge is a good album, BUT it too down, it’s all about one subject of Jay cheated on me. And no one wants to hear a codependent weak wife cry about her camel looking husband not being faithful. Non of my business, don’t care about your personal life that you tried so hard to keep private unless you have a tour to sell, like your daddy exposed you on the last tour.
Anti is a success around the board bc it’s popping out hits, it soold 1.4 in two hours, it sould another milli after that, her tour is doing well, oh and she owns the masters of all the songs, and her past songs. So your fave can tour her life away, over charging you clowns for tickets and avoiding the pitfalls of a label, while Rihanna is getting a check from Samsung, Album sales, streaming sales, radio spins, tour, Puma and so on. You pest just posted Anti World Tour is 92% soldout, where and how is that a flop? It’s not, you pest are just mad.
She should send SamSung a Thank You basket.
Because she’s a boss, but a label s**** like your fave. Sony makes phones, so they wouldn’t let their s**** market Samsung phones. See the wonders of being free and owning your masters? 🙂
Yeah, a boss who couldn’t even control the rollout of her own album lol.
But she DID. Remember you clowns dogiing her for waiting bc she wanted it to be perfect? Fail on you.
Her label screwed her over and leaked her album lol. Have a seat.
lol, you’re so effing stupid. So you think the Rihanna was sitting at a sever and pressed a button to release her album? That’s not how it work dummy. This is why the pest think Bey does it all, your TEAM works for the artist, THEY do it, the label does it. I guess Bey write, produce, package, ship, direct the videos, shoot the cover, does her makeup, fly to Brazil and pick the young girl’s hair to make a wig out of and so on. Rihanna has a team that WORKS for HER. And it doesn’t matter if it was leaked, it still sold 2 million WW. So deal.
Shut up you stupid trick! PushBackanna doesn’t sing,dance, write, produce,or do anything of substance. She’s a label puppet.
And yet Forbes 2016 list
1. Beyonce
Not in the top 10: Rihanna (because blue ivy collected them all)
#carterslave.
That’s how much she made not how much she took into her pocket and even so, those numbers are also not correct because why would forbes have access to private information such as an artist’s paycheck? #UseYourBrain
JayZ works for Rih not Rih works for Jayz so if anything it’s the Carters who are slaves not Rih. If you still need an explanation on what a “Artist Management” then feel free to look here and get educated! —> https://www.artistmanagementresource.com/articles/22-what-is-the-artist-manager-s-role-in-today-s-d-i-y-era
DEATH @ “if anything it’s the Carters who are slaves not Rih.”
Jay-z is the founder of his own label and is a certified MOGUL. Just like Diddy and Dre. You sound like a damn fool.
You do know that ROc nation is RIh’s management and she is under own label WHICH Roc nation is distibutes her album right? Just because Jay owns Roc nation doesn’t mean Rih is a s**** to him. He works for her, scheduling her promo and events, when you go to a law firm because you need legal representation are you a s**** to your lawyer because he handles your press release or statements? Management can be replaced have some damn sense
I never said that she was a s**** to him. You’re the one calling people slaves which is ignorant lol. Had it not been for the Carter’s Rihanna would still be on somebody’s island selling coconuts. Truth is, the “Bad Gal” persona that Jay GAVE her is what helped revamp and revive her dead ass career.
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That’s who I was referring to Tyler!
But you’ve been having a long conversation with ME not @ToeKnee. You’re calling a LABEL OWNER AND FOUNDER a s****. That s*** sounds stupid. I guess that makes Diddy and Dre slaves too right???
Tyler, you called Rih a s**** when Rihanna is JayZ’s help. She employed their service to help with HER career. That is the point I know youre smarter than most HIVE I have seen your comments about Racial inequality
When Jay is Rih’s help***
When did I call Rhianna a s****? I’ll wait….
She’s not Jay-Z’s s****, she’s his employee.
@LooseBooty
You obviously have some sort of superiority complex derived from all of your insecurities. Willy Lynch would be so proud of you!
I’ve got a type, not going to apologize for it. You don’t like it, your problem to deal with.
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Notice the only people seething about my type are the dark skinned bottoms who most likely don’t get it.
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If someone was secure, my preference wouldn’t offend them.
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Once again, get over yourself Miss Tyra, I wouldn’t touch you even with a 50 foot barge pole.
A mess like why are they so damn bothered by you liking light skin men?
Lmao I know right, like why does it bother them so much? Do they want me or something, or are they the ones with a problem to deal with?
Why are you so bothered by Black people?
B***** I am half black you should know since you love bringing up that I’m biracial
No, b****! Based off of all of your comments, you’re a racist and a homophobe.
And your mother is a fat hippo looking b***** what’s good?
Your mother’s a German Nazi m***********….
Your mother cleaned my grandmothers househouse tho. Hahaha bum broke bïtches
So you admit it!? You come from a looooong linage of white supremacist! #RACIST
i hate when people who are half black try and straddle the line of blackness when its convenient lol YOURE BLACK whether u like it or not. youre a n.igger deal with it.
You haven’t seen me a day in your little white washed soul lol.
Your assumption of me being a “dark skinned bottom” is just another reflection of who you are. You’re obviously suffering from low self esteem and the Willie Lynch Syndrome.
I agree this is ridiculous at this point. it’d be different if he simply prefered them out of ALL the men he likes but he ONLY likes lightskin men which is a direct reflection of how he feels about himself lol and whats worse is his internalized homophobia lol assuming only darkskin people get upset at colorism and assuming that every person who calls him out is a gay bottom.
@danzou
I’m confused as to what being dark skinned has to do with Beyonce and Rhianna’s album sales lol. He’s the one who chose to bring up skin color! Now he wants to get mad when people call him out !???
LB just because people are calling u out on your self hate doesnt mean they are mad lol you are colorist and its seems like your a tad bit racist as well. ONLY liking lightskin men is the problem, not the fact that you prefer them and dont turn this into a gay versus straight thing. This is something that affects people as a whole and your perpetuating it. If i only dated light women then i would be an ass hole and it would obviously be self hate so cut the s***.
Where’s the post on BET saying Anti is better than Lemonade?
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Speaking of Sponsored deals, how do we know for certain that Pepsi did not pay for 4 plaques? I mean the album and singles flopped harder than Britney trying to hit white girl two step at the billboards. Just saying at least Rih has hits and actually has positions in the top ten. 🙂
@Loosebooty
Hunny, nobody wants you! You’re the one who wanted to to make skin color of topic of discussion. You’re the one clinging to a closeted racist.
Truth is, you’re dark skinned. Clinging to all of the Biracial Maid’s racist jokes won’t make you any less darker.
@Blue
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The inconsistencies are amazing. Koolaid HBO special beat OTR tour special for lowest ratings, on a free HBO night and all of the sudden Sony and Park wood expect us to believe they haven’t at least contributed to purchasing that album lol
It really doesn’t make any sense how people would pay to see her but not watch her for free? Like that’s really confusing and she flopped twice with the HBO specials. Numbers don’t lie man
Also add to the fact that as is shown with Drake, Taylor, Adele, Justin…etc, people who sell a lot of albums sell a lot of singles too, unless you’re Yonce, another inconsistent.
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Oh and pushing the stage 3 quarters into the stadium is another inconsistent.
It is all smoke and mirrors.
One more thing, that “Field Goal Tour” that you speak of was projected to gross $250 million before LemonSLAYED was even released. 40 stadiums alone will place her all time touring gross between $700 to $800 million with just 5 tours. Awww but I see why all of you haters mad.
NOT you dragging LADYBUG through the wire like this kii
Stop trying to troll as me @Aaliyah
Not to mention you commented way further after I did and didn’t even copy & paste the whole thing. Ignore this troll @ Tyler. @Aaliyah did the same thing to me to try & tear me & HailBeysus apart. The girls are so pressssedT
Looooooooool the navy really mad because they, like the world even the blind and deaf know that lemonade era is bigger than anti era in every damnnn thing.
Sorry but Rihanna will ALWAYS come fifth not even third to beyonce now & always even after she stops working for her & her husband.
#thetruelabelslave.
NOT, LADYBUG getting dragged through the wire like this, by Tyler. Kii & Goodbye ?
Someone needs to kidnap Tyler and r*** him so hard with a broken beer bottle till he bleeds to death?
On a serious note, why does lovebird hate himself so much that he only dates lights skinned men. You truly have a slavê master mentality of lighter is better & then you go & troll as Molly to say you’re biracial and then when you’re bored, troll as Mark111, as if you’re still in the closet. SEEK HELP!
Like…LoveBird is really out here giving BrownBetties & what now T’s. Kiii, you’re probably the ElusiveLamb too
Furk me so hard with your tránny pussssy?
The Navy and these excuses are killing me. lmaoooo Down playing Beyonce’s success is not going to make Anti- Legit Certifications a success. It’s just not! Beyonce sells albums because she is BEYONCE!!!!! A certified iconic artist. Check those touring receipts biitches!!!!!
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Touring has nothing to do with Album or single sales. U2, Bon Jovi and many other legendary artists are still selling out stadiums with no new material or commercial successful albums. People just prefer to watch Beyonce than listen to her new stuff because her artistry to most has changed to make the younger generation happy but even they were disappointed with lemonade.
Still trolling as Del Bey sis?
Forgive me but have we met before? I don’t know you nor Del Bey. Is that a sandwich or something?
But nobody is downplaying the size of that forehead, A*** queen!
OFF TOPIC! Why is Lovebird offended by me calling him a self hater, which is clearly self evident, when he’s the one who constantly decides to bring up skin color in the first place????
People usually get upset about things that are true, hence why he’s trolling as Jackie
Byeeeee at my comment being deleted, Sam because I said that Slay_Hive is giving Toni Braxton Luuuupus T’s with that hairline!
Girl grow tf up and learn to be yourself instead of a Knock-off bootleg Annalise clone! Hop off of my nutsack because I’m more than certain I look better than you.
Who are you?
Stop lying why would they delete your comment and leave Jackie’s comment, the one about having Tyler kidnapped
How is an artist a s**** to a MANAGEMENT company? Do y’all even know what artist management is? I’m tired of kids and morons commmenting on here making nonsenscial arguments just so they could try shade Rih. What type of s**** has 90 % of their income while the “master” only takes 10 to 15 % out of the cut? if anything Rihanna is the reason why The Carters have their lights on and can afford a hot comb for Blue Ivy
I miss your Slayriah account
And I miss the time where I didn’t know you existed.
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Girl bye with this FAKE SHÏT!
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“Girl grow tf up and learn to be yourself instead of a Knock-off bootleg Annalise clone!”
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Kiiii but you just got exposed ???
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Girl exposed where? Lol these hoës with no Avis? Hah
It is a Annalise try hard though kii.
Lol not Slayhive spilling true tea for once.
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YASSSS SAM!
Its funny how those ban comments only show on people with no Avis… Lol
Its RIHNAVY sis doing that “comment deleted” being messy
Lol clearly boo its so bored and tired.
Lol at that THING trolling as Sam/David again. Get a life sis.
Like anyone who falls for it at this point is just SLOW.
Nnnnn…anyways
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NOT you clininging to the Hive when we don’t even use you. Yassssss cling hennnny! My impact has all 3 of the C-Squad seethinnnng
ANYWAYS B**** as long as white people are in charge of the grammys there will ALWAYS be politics and popularity considered in awards. They don’t know the culture of it all WHITE PEOPLE ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY AND DOMINANCE why do yall think they cheated bey on her album of the year award? Because shes known as the queen so they schemed up a plan to take her down a peg.
Lmao who are you to tell me who I should be attracted to Danzou, I like what I like, deal with it.
^^^ Willy Lynch syndrome ^^^
LB…I’m not telling you who to like bro. What I’m doing is evaluating WHY you like what you like. Is that a little easier for you to comprehend? No shade. I never told you stop liking light men and I never said you were wrong for liking light men. What I said is that you’re wrong for ONLY liking light men. That’s the problem. Stop playing the victim dude.
Not these fRih stans dragging anybody when she has to rely on features for hits… how’s the anti tour doing?
You should remain silent because your fave has gone from the top female artist to local lesbian activist in less than 5 years .
You see how she ran from clinging to r*** victims to rushing to the sad event that happened in Florida?
That’s the only stage she could #book. It was either her or Cecil
LB, why even bother explaining yourself? Clearly you have a thing for lightskin men and there’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone has a type. The Pest are girly men that clealry hates women and live with their single mothers. They don’t like Beyonce, they LIVE thru her, they think they ARE Beyonce. That explain why they brag on HER money, yet never mentions theirs… They must be mad because you won’t drop to your knees with their huge forehead, no hairline selfies.
The headline of this post scared me damn it! LOL I thought we were about to witness the biggest downfall in music history with grammys admitting streaming as votes or something LOL Thankfully the change is pretty irrelevant. They will still vote as usual (which has not been that great lately btw, they are more popularity constest than ever, but still the best awards out there).
I wonder if ANYONE is actually going to be purchasing music from let’s say…5 years from now? Imagine if almost every sale was just streaming? That would be crazy tbh
We’re already there, albums stream more than they sale. It’s the new medium. The past 5 years I only bought maybe 10 albums, most were Rihanna. Now I only buy Rhanna and stream the rest.
Oh Loosebooty, there isn’t an issue with you having a preference.
The real issue is why you have it! You’ll be the first one to bring up skin color. Then get mad when people call you out for sounding like a self hater. If anything , you’re the one with the ” dark skinned victim mentality.” You’ll never look like the men that you obsess over *stares at avi*
Do you want LB’s cakes? Why are you so obssessed with him?
F*** u and that sellout.
Bitchh this is a read!!
Lol at the endless excuses. Drake has sold 1.2 million pure albums already & so has Beyonce. There a quite a few artists that sale very well. Stop making excuses because y’all don’t buy your girls album. Streaming is only a piece of the puzzle. The bottom line is that no one equate a free stream to a purchased album. Heck, a lot of folks don’t even pay for streaming. Rihanna’s latest album sold slower because of the Samsung deal & all of the push backs. Pure sales still outweigh a streamed album. You can stream something & still purchase it. Sometimes streaming makes you want to purchase the album. There are other artists outside of Adele/Taylor that can sale too. So trying to fallback on this streaming crap is a flop. Y’all are hyped over streams. Lls ???? Pure Sales>>>>>>………
Complex Math Problem:
1500 streams= 1 pure sale
if Rihanna has 980 million streams then how many albums has she sold thus far?
Show your work.
Technically speaking Rihanna is already 3x platinum if u count 1.4 milfrom Samsung + 1.2 mil and the 470k sold she pass the 3 million mark
Its been how long? Does she have one?? LMAO. Always a Beyonce’s lessor. Lemonade 1,099,000. In a Flop World + No Success Allowed = ??? Single Ladies 5,000,000. Pretty Girl Flop? She clings to Timbaland and Kanye for two top tens hits. How embarrassing, nearly a decade in the game and still no number one? #whereskerinumberonesingle
Pink, Justin, Beyonce, Adele, Justin Bieber, Sam Smith, Carrie Underwood, Chris Stapleton, Luke Bryan, Jason Aldean, Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift, Adele & Eminem just to name a few can move actual units. Y’all (Rihanna) fans do not speak for everyone when it comes to albums as the charts already show. Y’all don’t purchase her music. But fans of the aforementioned artists do. Some artists are simply singles, vevo & YouTube artists. Rihanna’s sales aren’t bigger because this era started off out of sorts. In general she’s basically almost about gold with her album. None cares about the streams. They aren’t authentic sales. One could keep an album streaming for an entire day & not really bother to listen to it.
So Rihanna doesn’t have 6 past platinum albums that were “pure sales”? Have a seat please
BTW, Riri is lucky because Beyoncé, Adele and Taylor doesn’t have their albums on Spotify. But its funny that Bey is one of the most streamed artist with old albums. The washed up 90s singer is doing it with her CATALOGUE. Meanwhile, no one bothers to stream Keri Hilson self written hits.
Still wondering why the queen is pushing her stage 3 quarters in, on her “staduim tour”
“Stadium status” https://twitter.com/Rihsus_Christ/status/741710562002894848
Lol raise your hand if you think that streams matter more than PURE SALES
Noddy said it does stupid b****. Were simply saying that if a artist is being streamed then they deserve the credit for that.
1500 streams= 1 album. Streaming = DEMAND
So if someone is streamed a billion times that shows a lot of public interest right? Doesn’t matter how you feel about it. People obviously enjoy the music or they wouldn’t continuously stream .
The h/I/v (and GRANDPA JOHN)is the only pressed fan base about this because it puts RIH RIH ahead.
Who’s “we”?
YOU Stan for Big Bird. You have no merit or deed .
these idiots actually think fvcking BET’s opinion matters
Wait a min, isn’t LB the same individual who was praising Lil Kim’s new look. Man your self hate is disturbing, and this is coming from a light skinned dude “The same light skin you love so much”. I would never want to associate nor date an individual like yourself. Start loving and respecting who you are.
Yeah okay whatever, Im still not 100% sold on the idea, but I guess the industry is forcing this upon us. Im just astonished that so much has changed with the music industry in such a small amount of time, where as before, it was a stale environment with nothing changing for the better at all before streaming came into play.
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I do think this may be good for artists who may want to release digitally alone, while using the money they would have paid on traditional distribution(Physical Releases) and possibly spend that on promotion or something else….. Like Kanye west did with “Life Of Pablo” Im sure he pocketed that money he saved from not distributing any physical copies of his album.
And then these artists don’t even make that much with streaming. A few of y’all are geeking over streams lol.. Pure Sales are official & nothing is better than that..
Nice
Lol they better just make sure Beyonce and Rihanna will be there cause if not i have no reason to watch!
REALLY???? Its about time they came to their senses. Everything changes, these award shows need to get it together. Will someone please tell me why these commentors continue to trash RiRi and Bey? Comparing their music as if they were in a music competition? Some of these comments are ridiculous, Beyonce and Rihanna are both fantastic recording stars. They have opened up a lot of doors for women in the music industry. They both are wealthy, smart, and career minded women.
I watched Lemonade on HBO, it was very well written, and the music was great for that film special. But I have not made any effort to listen to the music since the HBO special. Love me some Beyonce, but Lemonade did remind me of the album called Beyonce. On the other hand, Rihanna’s album, “Anti” is excellent, musically and well written videos.
Rihanna performance/music/videos are always unique. You never know which way her sound will go such a surprising artist.