Lady Gaga has become one Pop’s most notable polarizers in recent years – and adds to that narrative with new album ‘Joanne.’
A marked departure from her dancefloor dominant sound of yesteryear, the singer has swapped her EDM rootings for a stripped back, raw offering.
Similarly, her image has experienced an overhaul; the meat dresses are in the freezer and in its place is an aesthetic that is almost…normal.
The switch-up has delighted some, yet worried others used to consuming their “Gaga” with a generous helping of electric eccentricity.
Together with ‘Joanne’s lack of major hit, it naturally has many wondering how this all will impact the commercial performance of the project.
The biggest indicator arrived moments ago in the form of sales predictions for the set.
Want to know what ‘Joanne’s numbers are looking like?
Join us below…
According to Hits Daily Double, the ‘Perfect Illusion’ led set is due to open at #1 on the Billboard 200.
Currently, it’s on-track to do so with first week sales (plus streaming) of…
150,000-160,000
[125-135k pure sales]
Unless there’s a surprise album drop on the horizon, the top spot is essentially sure-fire for the star. For, nearest competition Michael Buble, is on-course to debut with 85-90k of his Christmas album.
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Go Gaga!
Sure, it’s a dip from the 258k ‘ARTPOP’ opened with, but context is everything. First thing’s first, the industry’s numbers are not what they were 3 years ago. And that’s a reality for everyone not named Adele. Everyone.
What’s more, this go round, she’s not only missing a pre-release hit, she’ s taking a musical risk with the diversification and maturing of her sound.
Should she continue plugging away (as we suspect she will), she could well be onto a respectable total come her headlining set at the Super Bowl next February. A gig, which itself, should give the album added bolts of life at retail.
The weeks and months ahead ought to be uber interesting.
Super FLOOOOOOP
Not bad, good for her. I always wait for the second week numbers though.
Britney’s Glory debuted with 115k pure sales after 20 years in pop industry.
This is so sad for Gaga. I love Million Reasons and Dancin’ In Circle. 🙁
Don’t forget this album discounted for $3.99.
Lemonade managed to sell 2M worldwide. 😀
Gaga’s career is over!!!! Even britney debuted with 130k hahaha
Lol, be honest thats pretty damn good for noone to be interested! I previewed and it sucked but those sales are good in todays market!
160k more than Honeymoon Anti and Dangerous Woman. Hahaahhahahahhhahahahhahahahhahaahahhahahahahhahahaahhahhahahahahahahhahaahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahha
Anti debuted with 166K dummmie
No it was 460 flop
166 k for anti actually! 460 between a thirteen hour window at the end of a week dummy!!!
Flop! Her second week sales will drop atleast 50-75%. I can’t believe Gaga “Bug return” is giving me Britney Spears “G********” tease ????
Go stream hold up or something
@Rima
Go stream Gagas entire project. Because it’s a f****** flop
Dangerous Woman did 175K first week. Fad stans clearly can’t use google.
They sold the same without Gaga having a top 10 hit you dumb d***.
Go back and read your own post, which clearly said it sold more than DW. Retarded f******
150,000-160,000 first week???
What kind of basic s*** is this? Beyonce would never ???
Wow much better than I thought. It’s growing on me. There are no hits on this album thor guy unless Million Reasons catches on.
Million Reaons, Sinners Prayer, Come to Mamma and Joanne are 4 amazing songs. I love the duet with Florence too. She´s giving su real vocals too.
I love gaga,but this album is f****** garbage
ready for the second week biggest drop of all time
Exactly at least -75% and out of top 10. FLOP.
LMFAOOOO!!! The album has no momentum, the struggle for GOLD will be real. I can’t with her debuting in a Time singles sold like crazy and not being able to transition over to the Streaming era. This Gargoyle has literally no kind of streaming presences what so ever!
These are decent numbers she’s outselling these girls without even having a top 10 hit like others.
@rimjob Formation wasn’t even in the top 50 when Lemonade was released and Bey still sold over half a million in pure sales. Formation moved to #10 a week after Lemonade was released, and Bey’s pure sales were a lot higher than this. Just admit Gagz flopped and keep it moving bih
is not like Beyoncé is a streaming force. Her Youtube views are unimpressive, if only we get to know the -real- Tidal numbers..
Right.. They need to stream flop up they don’t use you like they use gaga.
Say what now?
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BEYONCÉ the album has more than a billion views on Spotify, despite being released to that platform a year later
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Also her vevo account is the 10th most viewed on youtube, you tried it
This argument would be valid if Beyoncé actually released her music to streaming services. She’s literally been in the top 5 most streamed females WW almost every year since Spotify has been releasing her numbers. Not to mention ST was has been streamed 1 billion times on Spotify alone dispite being held from the services for an entire year. As for Youtube, she does just fine! 5+ billion combined views and is in the top 10 for most viewed female artists of all time on youtube.
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Oh and Lemonade has been streamed 700-800 million times on Tidal alone! It’ll get 1 billion more once it hits Spotify BOOKMARK ME!
@Wonder Woman Didn’t now Spotify has views.. either way she has the 37th most viewed channel on Youtube. I just googled it. You should do the same before stating “facts”.
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@HailLegendBeysus lol at you believing Tidal’s numbers. She’s not “just fine”. her Youtube numbers are tragic. Meghan Trainor has achieved higher views this year, despite being in a terrible era.
@Sebastian Lmao like I said she’s fine! Her views are doing just fine for an artist that isn’t catering to pop music like Meghan. Oh and btw her views are now passed 6b i just checked and she is also the 10 most viewed Vevo Channel on Youtube. Not bad for someone who has half their discography released before Vevo was a thing.
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http://vidstatsx.com/vevo-most-viewed
That new R.Kelly Christmas album is on point tho!
I’m not a Gaga fan but these are decent numbers considering how dead the industry is.
The shock value of Gaga’s eccentricity has worn off and now she has to stand on her talent which is definitely strong. Enjoy her art for what it is and leave all the numbers talk to the label heads.
Best comment.
THIS is decent if her fans keep streaming. Bryson fillers album is plat off streams
Tiller *
“Filler was right” hes such a substitute for any other male artist to come take his boring place.
ARTFLOP HAD A 90% DECLINE SECOND WEEK. IT IS A RECORD FALL FROM A #1 ALBUM. SHE OVER!!!!!!!!!
I call that a flop!!! She’ll most likely suffer a huge drop in the second week. She’ll be lucky to even go Gold. ???
I’m not fan and I won’t be buying the album but I will say in this climate compared to when she lasted dropped her album “Artpop”, it’s a totally different climate. So this is really good fot her! Who knows, she may go gold after the superbowl exposure if she play the right cards superbowl night. Her being in a commercial or 2 that night could also help… .. congrats to her tho!
This will be her last #1 album
If she sells less than ANTI which was given away for free, I WILL DIE FROM LAUGHING ?
Anti sold 460 copies
166k b****.
Superglue your wig b****. WE ARE COMING FOR LITTLE MORONS ?
Anti was given away for free to 1.4 million people who sought the album and downloaded it and she was given 25 million dollars. Can’t say the same for Gaga didn’t she spend 25 mill to promote Artpop and it was one of the biggest flops in pop music history lol I see why the Monsters are mad! 3 singles released already and. One of them have hit the top 10? Lol and lower first full week sales then Anti? With all this promo she’s doing?! Lol GTFOH and she on her only 5th album lol
Lmao, this is awful. But its sad that it’s more than I thought she was gonna sell.
Lol @ Beyonce _ (a veteran) outselling all these new girls. ???
In Nicki’s words these girls are Jennifer Anistons and she’s Angelina Jolie
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Or better she’s Barbara Streisand and they are Mariah Carey
From 97, and she’s still the ?Queen. None the less, I like Gaga, because she’s definitely immensely talented.
She’s like 22 years in the game bearly selling what Gaga did on her 2nd album.
Rima girl, Beyonce has been in the game for 20 yrs, and she’s still on top…while Gaga, “Even though I do like her”, has been in the music biz for 5..and is already a flop..think about that.
Then, we know if Adele and Taylor Swift release the same week as her, Beyoncé would be debuting #3 with a huge margin. Like Adele 2 million – Swift 1 million – Beyonce 350K (pure sales)
Most of Bey’s albums have exceeded 450k pure sales in the first week. Gagz would probably be #5-6 with 125k pure sales LMAO.
With 12 tracks and an 18 dollar price point. ☺️
These are strong numbers without a hit. Beyonce had to manipulate the media to sale her album. Also, Taylor sales incredibly well also. LG has about three potential hits on this album. Lol, y’all wanted her to flop. Just imagine if she had an actual hit. The sound of this album isn’t even typical pop. So good for her. The hate is real on this site lol..
Sipping your tea ?
Please like Fad isn’t manipulating the GP with that suppose inspired Trayvon Martin track and than this $3.99 slashing price!
Your fav pretends to care about her people just to sale an album about her cheating lying man.
@Rima
Your fave is pretending to care about the black lives matter movement and treyvon martin when the stupid b**** never even made an attempt to acknowledge either one since 2012.
Why tf would she pretend how she benefiting? She’s not out here dissing cops like Beyonce
B**** wtf are you talking about? When did Beyonce “diss” cops you stupid ass trick? Nobody is trying to diss cops we just want them to be held accountable for their actions. That’s what the black lives matter movement is all about, and what the Formatiom video was alluding to. You wouldnt know too much about that though seeing as how you just jumped on the Black bandwagon 5 seconds ago like your wack ass fave. Dumb w****.
Theman
Exactly. I always say it. If these women like Gaga or Beyonce had a big hit on singles charts she would be selling like crazy. the fact Gaga could still sell this against all odds and zero pop hits in 4 years is very telling.
Those are good numbers considering how the album has been received by the gp and music critics.
Anti did better then this after the giveaway and still sold full price 12.99 lol
If she was black would you feel the same way ?
What that has to do with her being black or white?
Well, you constantly bash black artist but give white artist a pass. So I had to ask
S******
I agree with your thoughts on the album a lot. I finally listened to it today (and bought it, physical copy as you know). Best tracks are Joanne, Million Reasons, Sinners prayer and Come to Mama. Although unlike you I also love the duet with Florence. Their voices work together way better than what I had imagined. Those 5 are really really great songs. The second part of the album (more indie-folk inspired) is better than the first part (more country). Months ago I anticipated she was going to change direction but I thought it was going to be more ballad-soul like or something. More like “Till it happens to You”. But didn´t expect country 🙂
I’m sorry I just have to get this out. While these girls are peaking then tumbling down just a few years later, Beyonce is still pushing 600k+ first week ( actually 3 days) 20 years into her career. Longevity à la Barbra Steisand. *And she’s doing this with no traditional promo, and no #1 single*
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The biggest first week sales by females since 2013:
1. Adele ’25’ 3M+ (2015)
2. Taylor Swift ‘1989’ 1M+ (2014)
3. Beyonce ‘Beyonce’ 600k+ (2013)
4. Beyonce ‘Lemonade’ 600k+ (2016)
since you’re counting pure sales for the others, shall I correct.. *Lemonade +400K
JOANNAMAN- 160K
Now with all due respect, have several seats.
@Sebastian that’s still 4x as much as John’s first week. And weren’t you one of the main hœs talking about “Bey isn’t a streaming force” when her album got over 100k streams first week from Tidal alone?? Gagz got about 35k streams from all platforms. ??
And Beyonce has only been a solo artist for 13 years. Stop inflating just to make her look like more than what she is.
Gaga has seen one of The biggest declines in pop music. Bashing Beyonce, like you always do, won’t change that. So you can stay mad.
Her songwriting credits dating back to Destiny’s Child prove that Beyoncè has been successfully recording music since 1997.
Metzo
Beyonce is doing amazing. But I don´t think the “no traditional promo” argument is valid. That type of release she started with “Beyonce” has actually helped her. She was smart and gave her kudos for that. But it has helped her, not the opposite. She would have done worse reelasing teh traditional way. She knew she didn´t have a hit on teh album and that at her age hits stop comming. Now the “with no hits” argument is a very solid one. Beyonce (and Gaga) too would be selling like crazy (albums) with a long wunninf #1 single (unlike many others).
Actually Beyoncé had many hits on that album.
She did what she did because she didn’t want the label involved with the rollout.
Drunk in Love went to number 2 after the album dropped could have been easily number 1 if they released the music the “traditional” way.
So that’s wrong. Beyonce’s releases could have worked against her.
Secondly she’s way more popular. Her touring shows that alone. Gaga needs to be releasing unexpected and maybe so people would care about the music.
Because right now many people do not care.
It makes a strong case that she was just a fad.
Look be realistic. Beyonce didn´t have hits on that album. It already happened to her with 4, it was going to happen again. Gaga doesn´t have any hits on this album either. It´s not shade. “Beyonce” worked as a whole body of work. I don´t understand how someone can get defensive even when their fave is being praised. I don´t get it. Most of you just live through this virtual fight and “shade” and “drags” that you think everybody else is here to do so.
Like how you conveniently started since 2013 so Beyoncé could appear twice on the list
Taylor’s had 3 1,000,000+ debut sales, your “receipts” conveniently make it seem like it only happened once while Beyoncé has had 2 huge weeks
By Gaga’s standards, 150k is a flop! Because it will see a dramatic decline in the coming weeks.
These numbers are decent, more than I expected honestly. Folks are just mad because she didn’t do under 100K like they all wanted.
Exactly LOL
Now let’s wait for Katy Perry ?
Sure? Dark Horse outsold all of Beyonce’s singles this decade combined
Wasn´t Katy releasing in 2016 too? What happened? Hell Gaga has waited 3 years but not really cause in that time she has released her Jazz album and also done tv and giving performances everywhere, oscars, grammys and all. What is Katry Perry doing or cooking?
Girl bye! Those first week predictions = flop but with the super bowl,other stuff lined up and her white privledge I think she will go plat
Still waiting on Beyonce and Rihanna to sell over a million first week. Until then stfu.
Didn’t Gaga have to slash her prices to .99 just to achieve that goal. She’s trying to do the same s*** this era. Only this time, nobody is buying it.
They could never. But, to be fair Gag couldn’t have done that if she hadn’t discounted to 1 cent
And where all still waiting on Fad to sell an album for FULL PRICE instead of using reduced prices to get some sales! LMAO!
Beyoncè and Frihanna don’t use discounts for first week sales. This bítch album cost less than a subway sandwich yet she still can’t cross 200k..
#SHE’SDONE
I remember Rihanna discounted for Rated R. It´s not like any artist´s talent is smaller because of a discount though.
Born This Way ended up selling as much as Loud worldwide. Who cares about first week sales if you fall like a rock after that?
Im sorry but these #’s aren’t good for her status. These are Ariana, Maghan Trainor type numbers even with the industy in the pits.
Very cool album. Hope it does well. The promo machine is in full gear. It may not be popular content but its quality work. I applaud and appreciate her for switching it up.
Rima is having a meltdown???
I’m waiting on John Vidal to come thru and type his long ass paragraphs explaining why this is good
sdjffgh; you already know
“Rosie – you’re pathetic! (3 page essay explaining why Fad is not flopping with passive aggressive shade) Get a life!”
Gaga 5th album shows artistic growth.
Beyonces 5th album is full of stripper anthems.
Just stop it!! You’re not going to win this war???
A war? That says it all.
Gaga’s 5th album has gotten negative reviews and debuted with 160k sales. Beyoncè’s 5th album was critically acclaimed and debuted with 600k+ in 3 days. It also went on to sell almost 5 million copies WW. Joel probably won’t see 1 million.
That tramp had to do a surprise release to do those numbers.
@RIMA
How you gonna come down hard on Beyonce for doing a surprise release, when Fadga literally had to slash the price of her album to .99 cents ???
@BEY>RIH ‘5 million copies’ lool is at 3.7 million at most. It has sold 2.3 in the US and 500K in the UK, and those are the biggest markets…
@Sebastian Chile Bye, with those November 2014 reciepts. Self-titled crossed 4 million in June 2015 and is at least 4.3 million WW. There are more markets than the U.S. and U.K. you know?
The excuses ?
With all that ~artistic growth~ it shouldn’t have a 65 on Metacritic, lmao. Beyonce’s stripper anthems currently has the highest score for a female this year.
They always trash Mariah Carey too and she is one of the most prolific songwriters of the last 30 years and her voice one of the most unique to debut in the last several decades. What 30 critics think is not always the Bible of music. Even grammys have more credibily, at leats they are like 350 members or so. Remember they also trashed Lana´s paradise edition 🙂 This album has qulity. Especially for beinga genre (or mix of genres) Gaga had still not touched before. Imagine Lana doing pure Jazz? Or delivering country? Would be hard for her. Gaga is doing fine. I know you must love songs like “Come to mama” 🙂
I’m glad I jumped ship
Just wait for that second week y’all! 🙂
Most of you on this site are truly pathetic. Wasting your time to come in here and down an artist before the actual album is out 2 days. Y’all really are sick and must live VERY sad lives. Get a hobby …. Beyoncé would not be proud to call you fans
Gaga would not be proud to call Rima’s goofy ass a fan either. Don’t start no s***, won’t be know s***. That simple.
Cry me a river… If the Little Cutters would stop trying to compare their flop fave to Bey, there wouldn’t be any dragging in this post.
Nobody said Anything about gagas fans….. deflection. Your saying “I’m an ignorant idiot because they are”…. and that’s corny. Beyoncé would never consign that. You look dumb
@BurpBurp girl shut your holier-than-thou ass up, you’re just as messy as the monsters on here but you wanna act brand new. KIII
I CANNOT AT THESE MONSTER’S LEAVING THEIR MOTHER’S CESSPOOL SHE CALLS AN EGG AND LETTING @RECTUMPUSS TAKE ALL THESE LASHINGS BY ITSELF ???????????????
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So much to say all year long now they on SILENT!!!
They don’t have nothing to say in our presence but stay poppin off in confessionals. CONFESSIONAL GANGSTA’S lmao.
Lmao! The Monster’s are officially DONE!!!
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Now what I want to know is where the fuxk is Annalise with her priceless drags! Bitxh needs to get in on this!
What a comeback lmaoo
She did better than I thought.
This album is better than Lemonade, Dangerous Woman, and Anti.
Girl you know it’s a mf lie
Where is that Madonna Stan I’m surprised he hasn’t jumped in.
Can’t wait to read the next PawsDownLilMonsters article??
That person actually loves music and talent and appreciates this album.
LMAO. The Hive is dragging.
@Rihanna’s a Flop.
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With a severely botched release, “ANTI” the second best-selling album released (in pure sales) by a Female artist in 2016 in both the United States and Worldwide and it is the most-streamed album by a Female artist of 2016 overall. The album spent 33 consecutive weeks in the BB200 top-10 (the fifth most weeks by an artist of the 21st century altogether only behind Adele and Taylor Swift) and spawned two smash-hit singles:
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WORK – a 9 week #1 on the Hot 100; the best selling Female lead song of 2016 and the most streamed Female lead song of 2016 both in the United States & Worldwide. The song also broke Urban & Rhythmic radio records in the USA.
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NEEDED ME – the most streamed song by a Female artist on North-American Spotify (surpassing “Works’s” total) and certified 3x platinum by the RIAA. The song is also the second most played Female song of the year in the USA on Urban & Rhythmic radio and spent 16 weeks in the Hot 100 top 10.
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THIS IS WHAT YOU CAME FOR – a global smash-hit collaboration with Calvin Harris that is one of the best-selling and most streamed songs of the year.
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LOVE ON THE BRAIN – is also shaping up to be a big hit.
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The only true “flop” of the era was “Kiss It Better” and that’s all due to her stupidly releasing that song alongside Needed Me which was shaping up to be the bigger single.
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If the “JOANNE” era manages to score a fraction of this then we can talk. Until then… Go and buy or stream your faves album.
‘This is What You Came For’ isn’t “one of the best selling sogs of the year”, where have you read that? One of the most streamed, yes. ‘Love On The Brain’ “shaping up to be a big hit”? there’s no one single clue. Everything else is accurate.
It actually is worldwide. It did pretty well and the video is getting 5 million views a day (it’s coming for 1 billion). Love On The Brain just needs a little bit more radio play and it will smash.
OOPS. clocking
Death at me logging off for 30 minutes and missing this dragfest ??????
They way it just dramatically declines in each era omg. 1 million > 258K > 125K. But I thought the GP loved ha again? I thought they were here for its ~real music~ and so called talent? Why is it barely doing Florence & the Machine numbers? Hell, it’s barely doing Twenty One Pilots numbers (134K and Stressed Out wasn’t even a hit yet).
And that’s with a $3.99 discount ⚰ What would it be selling without that? Glory #s?
Why do the lil mobsters constantly feel the need to Bash Bey? The Hive was actually trying to be cordial towards their weird asses
The Little Cutters try it with everyone then play victim when they get dragged for filth, lol.
Who Bashes Beyonce? One “little mosnter” in this site? Wow what a big deal right? As far as I know, Rihanna and Beyonce fans are in big number always at odds. Not no damn monsterS.
Rima, LOL, and Matt are the lil monsters who frequent this site the most and they stayed bashing Beyonce at the beginning of her era, right a long with the Navy. Why they decided to join forces is beyond me seeing as how the Navy drags Gaga at literally every chance they get.
You cannot base your opinion on Gaga fans just cause of two people. Seriously if that were the case you would have to spend your entire days here hating on Rihanna, cause there are dozens of them here always bashing Beyonce. Fans are not the artist. With that logic I would have to hate every single one of my faves because all of them have stans that have trashed other artists 🙂
Have you listened to Lady Gaga´s album btw?
I don’t even dislike Gaga. She’s mad talented but your fellow monsters do a little to much sometimes. I TAKE THE BEYHIVE OATH; THOU SHALL STING ANY MOFO WHO RAMPS WITH OUR QUEEN lol. I haven’t listened to the album in its entirety
The second half of the album is just great imo. There are many crazy Beyonce fans too anyway you know! I´ve seen it all in this blog.
Yeah there are a lot of crazy Bey fans. But the MAINS here on tgj tried to be civil with the monsters. I didn’t really start going in until as of recent same thing applies to HailBeysus. From what I’ve observed CareerEnder actually likes Gaga. You don’t see Annalise perched up in her post hatin like we see Rima, Lol, Theman, and Matt in Bey’s. The Navy have been dragging her since ArtPop but i dont see them poppin off in Rihanna’s post nearly as much. So what’s up?
Rosie. lana declines just as much but you don´t say a word about that. What´s your problem?
Define how big? Because I don’t remember Lana’s first week sales dropping 100K, let alone over 700K, from one era to another.
Lana´s worldwide sales have declined exactly in the same scale as Gaga´s since Born to Die. Let´s not act stupid. I know your hate blinds you but you´re not stupid. Born to Die sold 5 million copies, how many did Ultraviolence (amazing album) sell? Yep, exactly.
What’s funny is that the Joanna Mann stans stay bringing up my fave for no reason, calling her a Tumblr fad that tours graveyards and sells Ciara numbers first week, but “talented legend!!1” Fadga is only selling 20K more with multiple interviews on both television and radio, SNL, NFL promo, and a video premiere on broadcast TV (Fox). Not to mention yet another Amazon discount.
That second week drop…
SHUT UP H**, SHE WILL END UP BEATING FLOPSEY AND LLAMA.
She will be lucky to outsell Belly Flopson’s last album (which btw, Halsey outsold).
Don’t try it when you stan for flops like Lana, Marina and Halsey. Kelly outsold their discographies combined with one album. Also, Kelly is one of the best vocalists ever. Halsey is?
“Halsey is?”
Outselling Belly in 2016? We don’t use receipts from 2004 or whatever unless we’re comparing two albums that came out then, sorry.
Lmaooo this post is a mess
GOOD NUMBERS! HALSEY, MARINA AND LANA COULD NEVER.
I was expecting wayy more tbh but after I heard the album I’m just speechless… Gaga has truly lost it
Is this LOL (at my fave’s tragic decline) posing as a Hillbilly Clarkson stan?
Anti did these numbers after giving 1.4M copies to us (and most of you haters as well.) Maybe Apple will buy more copies… Or maybe not.
Yup, and it was released only on Itunes (no physical) when it did 125k.
It did 460 boo, but at least you tried !!! LMFAO!!
Wow, when you look at other #1 debuts from this year, it really puts things into perspective
Panic! At The Disco – 169K
Kendrick’s “album” of in mastered demos – 142K
blink-182 – 172K
Frank Ocean’s boring ass album that everyone forgot about after a week – 232K
And those are pure sales only. Biggest fad of all time?
Girl you’re really doing the most hiding behind Bey but your two main faves are a bigger flop than Demi lovato. Find your lane and stay in it pusslicker.
Coming from the person who’s trying to hide behind Britney.
Botney stans coming for anyone when their couldn’t outsell Badlands first week.
Where’s Glory•hole on the Billboard 200 right now? Better check to see if it hasn’t fell off.
Rosie give it up. It´s sad you take all this time for absolutely every possible stat you can find about someone you don´t like (I´m sure you love Gaga but that´s a different story).
The ‘Little Monsters’ have absolutely no room to talk negatively about ‘Rihanna’ anymore in any way, shape or form.
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“ANTI” scored point 73 on metacritic yet they completely bashed her for it even though a “70+” score indicates majority positive reviews with partial acclaim. Why on earth is ‘Joanne’ in its way to scoring less?
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MESS.
Whatever Lady Gaga achieves, at least she co-created it. Riahnna is not responsible for any type of recognition Anti could get. It´s a major difference.
Yes she is because she sang all the songs and was an executive producer. Her voice made Work/Needed Me hits.
That´s not teh way those critics measure teh quality of thsoe albums. Rihanna making songs a hit is not an argument to defend her album. It´s a different story. It´s obvious Rihanna is not a musician so i don´t even know why this has to be a debate. It is what it is.
They tried to call Beyonce an opportunistic for supporting the Black Lives Matter Movement. Now Gaga is ALL OF A SUDDEN making songs about Treyvon Martin, whom she’s never even acknowledged before…. They aren’t calling her a bandwagoner though. The hypocrisy is real.
What’s Rima, LOL, and Matt’s beef with the Hive though? Youre the chillest Gaga Stan here
@John
Oh thanks. I just defend talent. I don´t use Rima.
I´m very very surprised. I thought she was definitely going to do way less. The hate campaign she has been facing for like 3-4 years now has been huge. Like absolutely out of control and for no reason. And yes she has been getting her recognition among her peers, musicians and industry these last few years, but that´s not the buying public as a whole (let´s say the masses). She hasn´t had any, I mean ANY hit from the album (Applause wasn´t a #1 but was doing some business in Artpop´s case). Except for her fans I don´t think many people know she has released an album. If we were nearer the Superbowl or something yes, but not many people seem to even know about her release. I thought she was going to sell less than 100k copies. Like I was sure. Kudos to her. Maybe the change of direction (despite some charts stans thoughts) is what she needed. She´ll have a Lana or Florence type of career from now on. Which is also amazing.
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Bey the only one who had good first week sales tsk
Beyonce is doing amazing for the stage she is at in her career. She wasn´t among the very biggest sellers when she was younger in the 00s, but she is now. Kudos to her.
What’s Rima, LOL, and Matt’s beef with the Hive though? Youre the chillest Gaga Stan here
Lmao@ John
Bey only gets better with time. She progresses with every release. That’s what I love about her.
Imo Beyonce was lacking a lot as an artist. With these last 3 albums she changed and it was for the better on all fronts. She started going for full bodies of work and forgetting about chasing hit singles at the right time. She was very smart. her best albums to date are “4” and “Beyonce” imo.
@John
I feel u
It´s obvious these people who are hating every single day even before any material dropped two months ago or any news comes were thinking she was going to flop way way harder 🙂 🙂 🙂 You can tell it by the comments.
You can reeeeally tell by the amount of thumbs down too 🙂 🙂 🙂 omg
@JOHNVIDAL.
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1. Rihanna sang on all of the 16 songs included on “ANTI”.
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2) Rihanna co-wrote 15 of the 16 songs included on “ANTI”.
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3) Rihanna co-produced 15 of the 16 songs included on “ANTI”.
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It was her voice and creative input that made “WORK” and “NEEDED ME” two of the biggest hits of 2016. You can try and denounce her, artistically, all you please but that still won’t change the fact that even after a severely poor release strategy by Rihanna and her team “ANTI” has gone on to be one of the top 3 successful albums/eras released in 2016.
You were talking about METACRITIC, not the hits or success. Make up your mind. If I were a Rihanna fan I would just admit I like her but taht i know she is no musician. Rihanan is not a songwriter, get over it. And yes of cpourse she sings the songs on her album. And? I know is cool to hate on gaga now and it´s been for a while (which I find appalling) so anything positive will be voted down by these charts stans. But i only say truths and love music. Just that. Gaga is obviously going to ahve a long career. As i said, most of these people already thought she was going to flop harder first week. She´s here to stay.
@TYLER.
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1) They DRAGGED ‘Lemonade’s’ metacritic score and accused her of having bought critics votes.
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2) They DRAGGED ‘Lemonade’s’ first week pure-sales because they were lower than that of “BEYONCE” even though she’s had the best first week sales of any female artist who has released in 2016.
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3) They DRAGGED ‘Lemonade’s’ lack of streaming albeit it has only been serviced to one, singular streaming format.
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They tried, and tried, and tried but… they lost!
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They have no room to talk anymore.
EXACTLY!
WHO are you talking about?????? The dozens of crazy rihanan stans in this blog? Those are teh ones always trying it with Beyonce. Seriously, this is just hilarious teh arguments some of you are giving.
The Hive and Navy are like the crips and the bloods, we’ll never get along. I was just always confused as to why the few monsters who actually do frequent this site ie LOL, Rima, MATT were always quick to beef with us….
Matt and Lol were quick to run to Rihanna’s defense whenever I had something to say about Anti’ s rollout. For what though??? It didn’t have s*** to do with Gaga. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot they wanna play victim.
Theman is a level 5 hater too btw
Blah those are a couple of proffesional haters. That´s all. On the other hand Gaga has at leats 15 people here always ready to be the first to hate on her no matter what, without listening or acknowledging anything.
TheMan is a different case. He is soooo nice with absolutely everybody, except for Beyonce. Although he is nice to her when no other artist is mentioned from what I remember.
They represent the general majority of the monsters that visit tgj though. They stay lurking in Beyonces post leaving negative comments.
I still would never trash an artist that I like and has real talent just cause two people hate on my favorite artist. To me it doesn´t make sense. I couldn´t enjoy any artist following that logic.
You get what you give. If the monsters give us b****, we r going to retaliate
Having to bring up my faves to drag like I don’t know who i stan for, thanks for reminding me.
The difference is that my faves are well aware of their audience and aren’t delusional about their success. Meanwhile Fad has a meltdown at critics giving a negative review of Toucanne on Twitter, has a meltdown when a more successful artist is pitted against them and they lose (“music not the bling!1”), has been pandering to the GP for the last 2 years, and uses a dead black teenager to defend the music with it has nothing to do with him.
Rosie you are doing too much seriously. Out of a blog like this you would be seen as a person with some type of problem. It kills you that Gaga can be the type of real artist that Lana and others can be, with the difference that she can sell bigger (or could), that she stays booked for mainstream events and that she can actually perform and sing.
Now let´s get your hate behind and talk about music. When is Lana´s next album supposed to be ready? Honest question.
Wow, I’m actually surprised. But with that crazy discount, she should be doing “Blonde’s” opening week numbers, to be completely honest. I can see the album scanning platinum after the Superbowl now. Doubt has officially been removed.
Wow Rih did that after a giveaway and the monsters have been trying to drag ANTI all year.
Who gives af about critics.. Many of them are biased.. This album is great. Y’all wanted her to fail & she didn’t. Rihanna/Arisnna had hits going into their albums. Beyonce’s pure sales were 400k plus. Y’all are genuinely haters..
You tried to downplay and discredit Lemonade’s success and it had a better debut than Joanne but we’re the haters?
Boy bye!
Rihanna had a hit single. So technically, she should have sold more..
Work was still not a hit when she released Anti. Her album was only available only on Itunes as well (a week later it was released physically too). Plus it was given away for free to 1.4 million people. And it hasn’t had any discounts yet.
All things considered, this isn’t even that bad, especially on the sales front. Since people were writing it off to do less than 100k. Don’t care for her but good for her.
I knew she would still sell over 100k even if the music sucks because she does still have some loyal fans(base)
I still see no Monster’s in here. @FakeLikeLadyGaga, @Dangwa, @LOL where y’all at? Did you swim out that cesspool and leave for good?
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People need to stop acting like the Flopster’s dont come for artist. Shítga’s Shít stains are all over YouTube, Twitter and music forums bashing Beyoncé, Britney, Demi, Ariana, Selena, and Rihanna.
CakelikeladyGaga disappeared long ago. I thought that guy was a hater in general, you know, a little bit your style 🙂 But he surprised me one day praising mariah carey and saying he was going to her concert in South Africa. He wasn´t that bad, was he? 🙂
F*** him and his disgusting ass comments. Now that I think about it, a lot of the monsters here on tgj bash bey. Why? I don’t know
Hater? What artist do I hate on besides Fad and Frih? I never seen you bothered nor make these types of comments at me Until I really started going in on Fadga the FLOP! Lmao where were these comments when I was dragging Rihfund left and right? You have no room to talk about anyone being a hater when all you do is bash artist of today! Sit the fuxk down and get help for that alzheimer’s because its starting to take a serious blow to your mentality.
Hail
You are saying it in your comment, you always hate on at least those two artists 🙂 But it´s not that, I´ve seen you mocking many more all the time. Behave. Beyonce is very successful, ok, you don´t have to mock every other artist. There are great talents out thare, some bigger than beyonce. Nobody is the God.
Receipts of where I constantly mock these other artist. I’ve said things about Madinosaur and Mariah (although that was last year). There is virtually NO ONE on my list I hate on constantly besides Fad and Frih. Also I wouldn’t say shít on them if their fans would shut the fuxk up! You act like the Hive just goes off on Fad for nothing. Fake, DangWa, LOL and Rectum have all been bashing Beyoncé since I first came to TGJ of August of last year! Anyway at the end of the day your an even bigger hater than I am. You stay mocking and belittling artist of today! Not to mention you are absolutely obsessed with Rihanna! Stay in your handicap parking spot and stop acting like you’re some saint!!
They’re on the other forum pretending that this is a good debut.
If you find that people are often offended by the things you say, so much so that you now believe that people must simply be “so easily offended”, then perhaps you’re the problem.
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I’m not surprised those are good numbers, with the music industry in it’s current state, it’s just her weakest album to date though.
I just think the monsters have egg on their face for shading Lemonade, when it’s first week sales are better and it’s more critically acclaimed not to mention an outright better body of work.Anti is better than Joanne as well.If Taylor,Katy,or Adele don’t release this year she will probably be 3rd for female artist this year and that’s not a bad thing.You’d just think they would be a little humble after Artpop. No hate,I appreciate Gaga’s talent,it’s just this album is meh!
I think The Fame is her worst and most basic. It´s been well known that she had to mask her voice in order to aooeal to those supposedly important massess who live through the charts. I didn´t care until Bad Romance, I thought she couldn´t sing just liek any other young pop girl. She kept only showing more and more talent. Until she definitely slayed with jazz and the oscar performances thes elast two years. To me she is in a better position than ever. her weakest wa sThe Fame, despite all the commercial appeal.
Receipts of where I constantly mock these other artist. I’ve said things about Madinosaur and Mariah (although that was last year). There is virtually NO ONE on my list I hate on constantly besides Fad and Frih. Also I wouldn’t say shít on them if their fans would shut the fuxk up! You act like the Hive just goes off on Fad for nothing. Fake, DangWa, LOL and Rectum have all been bashing Beyoncé since I first came to TGJ of August of last year! Anyway at the end of the day your an even bigger hater than I am. You stay mocking and belittling artist of today! Not to mention you are absolutely obsessed with Rihanna! Stay in your handicap parking spot and stip acting like your some saint!
What? The Fame remains a slice of Pop perfection.All of this faux,fake deep,over dramatic,outright weird music she followed it up with is exactly why Gaga’s buzz and status dropped.Born this way was trash,confusing trash but still trash.
Cheek to Cheek was good, but I love jazz. I love Tony Bennett and Gaga is a good jazz singer.
Artpop was as close as we got to The fame and it’s criminally underrated,but nothing groundbreaking, it was the fame 2.5, just less exciting.
Joanne is TERRIBLE!I like Gaga but it’s like a bad version of Nona Hendryx’s debut album.
fresj
I agree on part of your comment. With Artpop and Cheek to Cheek. And yes The Fame was good and new, but it was her most basic. The girl had to mask her awesome voice in order to appeal to basic masses for goddness sake! I thought she was just another Britney, Katy, Rihanna type of artist at first. Born This Way was great. Or at least a good deal of the many songs it contained. In my opinion and in @s******´s opinion (one of the biggest music lovers in this blog) it was her best album to date as a whole. And where I totally differ is about Joanne. There are songs that are just cute, like A-Yo, but there are at least 4 or 5 songs that are amazing. You cannot say this album is TERRIBLE. It just isn´t. How can you use that work for something like Million Reasons? Are you serious? Come to mama, Joanne and Sinners Prayer are awesome.
When I have acted like that about Rihanna it was in part to defend your precious Beyonce. So keep it cute. Always in response to the many selusional Rihanna fans which visit this blog. I only talk about talent and music. Never personal attacks and obsession like many haters in here, like you.
LG is potent. They wanted her to sale under six figures & she didn’t lol.. She’s selling this without a hit. She still released her album with the first single. She didn’t scrap anything. No push backs. She will continue to sale.
Beyonce’s numbers, no matter the era are great. (First week sales). But, she had a ton of hype/documentary behind her album. Why are y’all always so fixated on other artists sales. That’s lame. Heck, Beyonce’s numbers without a pop hit are great. A few pop hits would be a huge plus as well. All of LG’s fans weren’t speaking of Beyonce. LG just kind of dropped this album out of the blue.. It was rather quick.
The reason why we drag your fave’s numbers is because al year long you have been shading Lemonade’s numbers. Lemonade would’ve debuted with 600k and sild 2 million WW without the documentary. Beyoncè can sell off her name alone. I just wish people like you would accept that.
This is pretty dope considering. Well done Stephenie!???????
This numbers are with the Amazon trick? Joanne $3.99… Im a little Monster and this make me really sad. My Major artist, My idol have no integrity. She say she dont care the charts… And she do this with this album? The most personal?
LOL you want as to think you are a fan? Troll!!!!
Hey! “Telepathy” is set to hit Number 2 on the Billboard Dance Songs Chart!!!
I think these numbers are great for a debut in the current music industry sales. The problem will be longetivity. Without a hit single the album will flop. It is too early to call it a flop just yet because Gaga and her label probably have some marketing tricks up their sleeve but in a couple weeks everyone will know if it is a flop or not.
I don’t like gaga, but this album is actually well…alright for me.
This is blog is so ridiculously biased. Britney sold close to the same amount and it was such a “disappointment.” Lol
Both women’s first single success is parallel to each other. So is this a victory or loss? ?
Still waaaay better than I expected, However The album is so bad…. I wonder what tricks she used to sell that many
Omfg I expected it to be less!
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And tyler, are you ok?
Mentioning me here when I haven’t been frequenting this site in a while. Don’t call me a monster. I’m not
Boy bye! Ain’t nobody trippin off of you. I’m just calling a spade, a spade.
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#ClockHim
Decent numbers
I knew this would flop. Gaga is a fad out of gas. She was handicapped by Katy, then murdered by Adele.
Y’all can miss me with this rationalization crap. These numbers are subpar and everyone (including you) knows it. It was less than 10 yrs ago that Gaga was on top of the planet and was considered THE industry standard. Now look at her. Anything under 300k is bad for someone who not so long ago had that status.
I thought she’s gonna sell less than 100k. Then I remembered she discounted it for 3.99. Now, explain why 17.99 album sold more in second week?
Lemonade sold more in its first second and third week, pure sales.
Big deal, Its gone on to sell only 2 million. Madonna”s Rebel Heart leaked in full months before its realease and still sold 1.2 million, and thats without Radio support and payolla s*** that Beyonce is notorious for! But then, Madonna is the most famous and biggest selling female of all time WHO Gaga, Beyonce and Ri Ri have openly admitted to wanting to be like! Lets face it, all this petty squabbling on here over basics is just hysterical, Madonna owns all there asses! ??
So, now I’m gonna wait for Katy, Alicia, Miley, Christina,Avril and KERI HILSON. (its been 648484904 years since her last release).
This h** is a hot ass mess lmao
LMFAO the SLAVI are a kii! This is a flop, but still bigger than 460! KIII! Who do y’all hœz think y’all fronting on!?!
You mean a glitch when it was accidently leaked only on Tidal for a couple of minutes?
You’re a dumbass that was 20 minutes of sales.y’all can retire that weak drag
The only reason the album is gonna be #1 and sell that many copies is because she selling the album for 3.99 Amazon cause she cant sell a album for full price
Lol! Tragic. She is officially done. Joseph doesn’t have legs, it will tank in the following weeks. It wont outsell Dangerous Woman or Revial. Bookmark me. Even with a 3.99 deal she flops.
Wow
I love all music stars like Adele , queen b ,and gaga…..I think an artist put all to make picture beautiful. …..some time it work …some time so …..each have good and bad time. …so pls kind
I find this hilarious!!!! Madonna in her 35th year sold 318,000 copies of her album Rebel Heart on its debut, it leaked 4 months in advance, all of it! It went on to sell 1.2 million copies and reached number 1 in 29 countries. Gaga is in her 8th year, cant get a top 10 hit and has been outsold by a veteran act with NO radio support and a major media leak! Its time to stop flogging a dead horse! It worked while she was ripping off Madonna, now its just a big old mess!