Tinashe‘s narrative has been one of the more puzzling among artists who’ve had buzz over the last few years.
Her inaugural set, ‘Aquarius,’ made quite the splash on Urban charts in mid-2014 thanks to its DJ Mustard-produced hit, ‘2 On.’ Yet, despite nabbing one of that summer’s biggest anthems, the ‘Joyride’ singer turned left and since then has seemingly had her eyes set on seeing her name scribbled on pop charts.
The pursuit – which has seen the ‘All Hands on Deck’ singer try her hand at everything from EDM to emo-pop and collaborate with the likes of some of music’s biggest names (see: Chris Brown, Britney Spears, and Nick Jonas) – has admittedly proven futile. As such, even though she’s 3 years in the game, many still consider her a “new” or “buzzing” artist.
Tinashe believes she has the answer to that: colorism and racism in the industry. Recently taking to The Guardian, she discussed what she believes is the industry’s take on black women:
“There are hundreds of [male] rappers that all look the same, that sound the same, but if you’re a black woman, you’re either Beyoncé or Rihanna. It’s very, very strange.
[There was Ciara, but] it felt like they almost had to sacrifice someone because there wasn’t enough room, which isn’t true. Ciara’s an amazing artist, Beyoncé’s an amazing artist, Rihanna’s an amazing artist, and they’re all very different!”
“There’s colourism involved in the black community, which is very apparent,” she says carefully. “It’s about trying to find a balance where I’m a mixed woman, and sometimes I feel like I don’t fully fit into the black community; they don’t fully accept me, even though I see myself as a black woman. That disconnect is confusing sometimes.”
Tinashe says all the separation and setbacks with her music have been discouraging, but have never completely broken her spirit.
“It’s definitely been discouraging, and I have days where I’m less confident, but at the end I know that I’m going to get to where I need to go.”
“There’s doubt that seeps in, there’s self-deprecation, because you look to someone to blame and you can’t blame anyone but yourself, but I’ve never, ever thought, ‘I’m going to work in a mall.’”
Has Tinashe’s success narrative been impacted by the black community ‘not accepting’ her?
Girl, gone!
Mediocre music, pep rally-style choreography, and not a shred of a discernible personality. This chick is the great value version of Mýa. Face it sis, you just don’t have “IT” and won’t pop off big. Don’t use the black community to cover your floppage.
Mya! Cheek! More Christina Milian!!! This whole “i’m mixed” did the black community dismiss Hallie Berry and all her failed marriages to white men? Alicia Keys and her neo soul antics? Tiny and her days in Xscape and her life after? and i’m sure if i thought a bit harder i could think of a few more examples.
The fact of the matter is that her music isn’t cutting it, she signed a deal after making better music as a independent artist and is now looking for someone to blame, and using Ciara is a bad example because the issue with Ciara and the black community is different to the situation she is going through, but Ciara stays getting deals and release dates. I do agree with her comment of what record companies expect but i guess when you sign with a big label you need to make sure that they understands your vision or stay doing it solo.
I bet she’s going to come out with the misquoted stance when she gets dragged
Precisely. The excuse that it’s because she’s biracial or light skinned is bull. And there’s something very pompous about her blaming people for not liking her music and not thinking to blame her music for not being likable.
I agree to a very small degree, but it’s really the music she’s making. Sza and Kelanie are not having any problems and they are 2 diff extremes when it comes to skin tone. Her music just don’t pop like that. She needs to find a way to take the sound now and bend it to create something else.
Well said thanks I can I fell the same about her she don’t have that it factor and girl gone well said
Mya is on a different level than Tinashe.
At least Mya had reasonable success in her first time out and thereafter plus was nominated and won awards though for a joint effort. Now she’s Independent and still Grammy nominated for “Smoove Jones”.
A Few point to be made here Tinashe is a very talented woman as a great dancer and songwriter/producer. Her vocals however still leave much to be desired much like a Ciara but in her own unique way. Her tone as well also lacks a soulfulness imo.
However, she’s 100% right about the music industry pigeonhold of female artists and the misofynistically driven competition of it all as compared to male artist. Her label RCA is doing her a grave disservice though in the handling of her Sophomore project but she still has work to put in to perfect her craft.
Chris Brown, Trey Songs and August can’t sing live for shît and vocals are ever so basic… it has everything to do with being a black woman.
That is not true. The majority of music consumers are white. To be honest it really does not matter if black people support an artist or not in terms of overall sales. The music industry is about hit records. You cannot put out subpar-wannaby-cross over material that flops and then black people for not supporting when there was nothing put out by you worthy of support. That is an idiot kiss-a** to white people move that gets you nowhere. The right thing to do is to put out hit music and songs and that will get you success.
That is not true. The majority of music consumers are white. To be honest it really does not matter if black people support an artist or not in terms of overall sales. The music industry is about hit records. You cannot put out subpar-wannaby-cross over material that flops and then BLAME black people for not supporting when there was nothing put out by you worthy of support. That is an idiot kiss-a** to white people move that gets you nowhere. The right thing to do is to put out hit music and songs and that will get you success.
It has nothing to do with being a bi racial/black woman, she unfortunately just isn’t all that, she’s yet to have a song that has caught on and she doesn’t seem to be that celebrated for her music or anything else really. Chris cannot sing but had catchy songs, Trey & August i have never heard sing live so cannot comment but they appeal to a market and its not a mass market. Tinashe is making basic music with a basic singing that she is catering to a “pop” market and as the market is already saturated with basic singers with average voices why did she think that she would stand out?
Solange,SZA, K.Michelle, Fantasia are selling and are more recognised because they are bringing something unique to them and something more original that makes people take notice. Tinashe is marketing herself against the Katy’s, Ellie’s, tailors, Rita’s Selena’s, Due Lip’s, Bebe Rexha’s and i could go on and on and she’s bringing noting other than another faceless pop song by a forgettable singer
She is has told no lies. The black community doesn’t make room for more than one black woment to win. They compare them and put them against each other.
That is not true. If you listen to record execs like LA Reid, Diddy, and others the top artist spots in the music industry has spots to fill but you have to meet the qualifications. Problem here is that Tinashi is a wannaby applying for a job that is already taken (Rihanna). When the position is already filled the newer artist has to fill another spot (that means hard work) and Tinash is too lazy to rebrand and with her limited vocal abilities she is essentially unmarketable. Beyonce = HBIC. Rihanna = Young crossover female. Only spots left for a black chick is to be a younger Toni Braxton (requires unique vocal ability and beauty), a younger Whitney (requires outstanding traditional vocal ability and great personality), or a younger Erikah Badu (requires songwriting skills combined with a unique personality). Tinashi is out of luck and only has herself to blame because there is no way she does not already know this stuff!
1000%right
kelly Rowland fits the Whitney mold! How dare she talk about her look alike lightskinned fellow artists and forget about everyone else who are stuggling aswell for similar reasons other than being light skinned. she must have realy believed when they told her shes suppose to benefit from lightskinned privelege smh She classifies her self as a pop/rnb infused artist Has Scooter Brauns friend as a manager they have all the mainstream influence obviously not working for her yet if ever. This buisness isnt ment to work for everyone Some pple will loose unfortunately she needs to learn that!
But the white community wasn’t ever buying her s***, whereas “2 On” was a hit on urban radio stations and she got invited to the 2015 BET awards. Though to be fair it does seem she is being somewhat taken out of context.
She didn’t tell one lie at all…she’s done some great songs and she’s talented song writer as well! She will be successful and I like her spirit at first you don’t succeed keep trying till you reach the top
Black wow dot accept nobody except white people! That’s the bottom line! OF you are an ugly rapper you get mad respect and support! God forbid if you are a black woman no one like or respects one of those! Beyonce had to go through it to get her acceptance and had to be perfect at everything and even now they still don’t like her!
Sorry black people don’t accept nobody but it white people I men to say!
BangBang Omg you said it all about queen Bey I am a black woman and I know that but I love queen Bey my favorite star ever
While I can agree that the industry doesn’t want to make room for multiple female artists, coming from her, this sounds like a bad excuse. Enough already. Like, what kind of ‘Reverse Colorism’ mess. That’s not a thing. I’m confused. The black community doesn’t accept you? In what way? What is this supposed collective non-acceptance based on? Because they don’t want to buy your music??? Maybe you aren’t their cup of tea, boo. Maybe you’re just not it. Get over it.
Girl it’s not ur skin color it’s the crappy music u have been releasing! Girl we want a 2 ON part 2 or a work from home sound that got U ON
PLEASE. First, It was the label’s fault. Then she blamed her “fake fans” for not buying her music. Now it’s the entire black community that doesn’t want her to win. This flop has so many excuses. Who is she gonna blame next. God? Maybe the problem is you, Tinashe. Did that ever cross your mind?
I agree. Finally somebody with some good logic.
What a load of barnacles…
A lightskinned girl citing Colorism as the reason why she’s not successful. Lmao. She is so full of it. This reminds me of those white people on their reverse racism bs who always biitch about how they didn’t make it into Harvard because of Affirmative Action limiting spots for them. H**, No one took anything from you. You weren’t good enough. Perhaps the black people who made it in were smarter than you??
She’s been trying to flip flop into different genres and audiences before really establishing a sound. Yes Chris brown usher etc have flip flopped but that was after how many solid ebb albums and engraved identities.
Partner that with the truth of colourist etc
So basically she saying there’s too many light skin BW who ain’t giving up they seat. Aww Tuna Fish you wanna special seat at the light skin table girl? Work harder b****.??
I find very very funny that she thinks she looks different from Beyoncé or Rihanna just because she has more recent European blood in her (white mother), both B and R have certain degrees of European genes too, as most AA and Caribbean people do, like girl, AA have embraced Mariah Carey, who is physically WHITE, so why wouldn’t they accept you, she looks no different from a typical light skinned black woman with hair extensions, I detect a superiority complex in her words, typical of mixed people.
The thing is her lived experience is very different to Mariah’s. Mariah grew up around and was embraced by black people while simultaneously being disowned by her white family so very much feels that she herself isn’t white and made pains to confirm that via her artistic interests, vocal style and artistic contribution increasingly so over the years. Her ‘My Love’ video is the culmination of this. Tinashe from my understanding grew up in a very white environment which, although helped her identify as ‘black’ via being actively othered, her experience is more white valley girl who dabbles in urban. Personally, I think her comment was taken out of context and was more about her own sense of identity as a part black woman of colour in an a world, much less music industry, where that means something.
@ S****** Exactly. If this were a darkskinned black woman speaking about how she is welcomed in the industry, that would make sense. But how the hell is Tinashe trying to blame Colorism, as if her physical features don’t align the preference of the entertainment industry? Just as Beyoncé and Rihanna’s does?? She’s NO different from them. She’s just making excuses for why people don’t like her.
You cannot compare Tinash to Mariah in the 90s. Mariah came out with a powerhouse voice and one could argue that she initially took Teena Marie’s spot in the music industry and took that spot to the highest level possible. Tinash is more on the level like like Toya (I Do) and Tracie Spencer (Tender Kisses). Those are beautiful women that rendered 1 or 2 hits but never had the potential to do more.
GIRL lol
In USA, black people are hypocrites as white people are. Period.
it’s true, black community is really misogynist , everything is accepted as long as you are male! being a white rapper is acccepted as long as you are a man , and the same happens for people with mixed heritage , there are double standards for entertainment there….but nobody talk about that…
BISH please, didn’t even know she was mixed. Music is just whack and you dance too hard. It doesn’t look effortless.
I would blame media and radio. Radio barely gives consistent airplay to black female artists who aren’t Beyoncé or Rihanna. There’s so many amazing black females like Jazmine Sullivan and Janelle Monae who just don’t get that support and they do R&B. Then you have Tinashe who is trying to conquer the world as a popstar and her chances are even more limited as a black female. Seems media really only takes 2 black female pop stars at a time. You had Whitney and Janet having major success in the 80s and 90s, now you have Rihanna and Beyoncé doing that in the 00s and 10s. It’s sad that there can be an abundance of white female pop stars, but there’s a limit it seems for black females who want to be popstars. Ciara tried to make the crossover and the media and radio wouldn’t let her. Same thing is happening to Tinashe. The black community and gay community adores her. The media and radio are the problem.
Exactly. But these fools just don’t get it.
@SMH and Lisa you fail to realize that pop music is catered to white consumers for them to buy. You cannot blame black people for not wanting to buy washed down pop music that white people already passed on. You mention Ciara. Ciara did not start flopping until she unsuccessfully tried to crossover to pop. Rather than feeding into Tinash’s idiotic racial assumption you should be looking at like this…artists have to make hit music in order for them stay relevant. Period. Tinash is being lazy and obviously she is misguided into thinking any race of people have an obligation to buy her music just because of her race. Black people and black radio support hit music (ie the songs with millions of views on Youtube, the songs that people can dance to at the club, and the songs people request to be played). This is very simple…people like / buy what they like…not what you think they should like.
And this is THE REALLY BIG PICTURE PEOPLE ARE MISSING RADIO IS TOLD TO PROMOTE RAPPERS BLACK RADIO FORMATS ALL URBAN rap dominates now theyre featured on katy perrys and their pop songs and white wannabeez like Demi and Nick Jonas who get the streams!!!! They could care less about rnb artists for that reason! thyve (labels) have found a way to make money!
Dear Tinashe, Black people don’t ignore you because you’re half-white. Black people ignore you, because you’re boring as fvck with no identity. It’s seems that you’re upset that your lightskinnededness will not help you and that’s probably because your look, which is very basic just like your voice, is not enough to compensate for your lack of personality and capacity to succeed in this business. I know this broad did not try to pull the typical, “Black people don’t like me because I’m mixed”. Girl, sit down. The black community just doesn’t want to buy your wack ass music.
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Sincerely, A fellow biracial girl who knows that Reverse Colorism doesn’t exist.
And neither does her neck. Next!
She 100% correct in everything she said. But as usual, this uneducated simple minded generation completely missed the point of what she’s saying & focused in on beyonce & rihanna’s names. It’s pointless nowadays to say anything insightful & intelligent, all it does is fly right over the heads of the dumbasses of the world.
Lol, How many people are focusing on Beyoncé and Rihanna, fool?? What is being addressed, is Tinashe blaming the black community for supposedly not accepting her and suggesting that they aren’t accepting her because she’s mixed. FOH.
No numb n** brain girl , she’s saying her light-skinnedness is not helping her since she does not have the burnt -out boss swag thot-life gay factual kind of style. Now go tell yo momma you sorry for embarrassing her.
And that revelation is coming from a chick who sung 2 On and All hands on deck while humping a container floor in the video and Company humping a bunch of guys in a dance studio? She seems to fit the burnt- out boss swag thot-life gay factual kind of style to me. What’s the next excuse?
She is 100% wrong. In life no one has an OBLIGATION to buy or support you. People like Tinash has a sense of entitlement and learn the hard way that you have to put in hard work to get success. Also, don’t assume everyone that does not support Tinash is automatically a Beyonce or Rihanna fan. That is the weakest argument I ever heard. You expect people (regardless or race) to buy music from a new artist that is not putting out his songs? That is living and thinking in delusion 100% with no grasp of reality. If you want people to buy your music make hit songs. People supported “On One” because it was a hit so she should stick to the formula and make 5 or 6 similar hit songs before trying to cross over. You can’t abandon urban music consumers for pop until you have established a solid urban audience, and even then you have to always cater to the urban audience by continuing to make urban music.
Sweetie they’re the only ones checking for you…
Lmao. Exactly. Does she think white people are “accepting” her?? Based on her sales and achievements, it’s clear to me that nearly NO one, black or white, gives a damn about her music.
#WhenYourFaveSaysThe DumbestThings I love Tinashe but hunny you gotta watch what you say. Your musical success has nothing to do with the black community not supporting you but instead EVERYTHING to do with your loss of musical direction and sound. You created a signature sound that is not very commercial but fans still love it because it is you YET your label (and you let them) continues to push you down the pop lane with tracks like “Flame”. You can’t be everything to everyone and throw it all on a CD and think everyone will vibe to it. BE YOU.
I’m not mixed, but I can imagine that a lot of mixed ppl may feel this way. It’s really not too far fetched of a thought.
There is nothing special about being “mixed” in 2017. Who isn’t mixed? It is only the self-entitled / self-centered people that want to victimize themselves who feel that way.
Honey, she is confused. Just stop trying to cater to and fit in the box white people deem successful, and your own people will embrace and support you. You can do what you want, but you need to have a clear vision, i feel she is so confused.
This is just a crutch T. Your career hasn’t flourish because you’ve overtrusted these half ass producers and writers who write u s***** music and tell you it’s a hit. Well they lying and u need to try harder on writing better music
These comments. I knew some people would take her perspective as “excuses”, “she blames her fans” and this nonsense but it’s honesty. And for people saying black people don’t have any harshness towards people of mixed is b*******. I’m not mixed and I’m black but it’s messed up from both ways of people who are mixed. And for myself being a black person I’m not in their shoes but I understand from history and the reality of people not accepting you for who you are. Tinashe is speaking honesty and some people act the record business doesn’t have messed up priorities. Colorism is a topic that needs to be aware. She addressed it based on her observations. And guess what? She’s right. The record business has manipulative factors to it and when she brought up about her being mixed yes here goes these typical individuals saying it doesn’t apply to her. But really black artists and black people have faced this messed up ordeal on skin tone and complexion for years. And Ciara…………..LET ME READ AND GATHER SOME PEOPLE now for her she’s an example of how airplay and stations don’t support her as much. She tried to crossover during the “Fantasy Ride” era but due to her fighting a label at the time she didn’t get the support. Tinashe wants women artists to get their shine. As a Ciara and Tinashe fan I really am frustrated how the record business doesn’t support artist with substance to begin with. And for those who try to downplay Tinashe and comparing her to “a Mya wannabe”. Mya is Mya. And Mya had to get out of the record business and start her own albums and eps by going independent. Mya herself talked about how the record business is messed up. So cut that b******* out.
Regardless Tinashe has supporters that know her records and her mixtapes. The issue is her label wants market her to more of the pop appeal. She does r&b, pop, infused with urban records. That’s her lane. If people DID research from her previous mixtapes and “Aquarius” the records that appeal to her are r&b, pop, and infused urban. That’s where she fits best in her lane. But I think it’s unfair for her label to not allow her to have innovation as well. She explained how she needed to put together more records and it was frustrating for her because she wanted to get “Joyride” out sooner. But as she stated she pushes herself and still recording. For the naysayers that keep bird chirping it’s fine. But I’m telling you it’s messed up for any artist trying to get their stuff out and find a innovative lane in their records.
Now I’m going to address the state of black artists period……………….there’s so much that can be done to promote them. But since people mentioned a few names that I know well enough. Artists such as Jazmine Sullivan, Elle Varner, Janelle Monae really have made records with substance. It’s just the general public don’t gravitate towards them because they’re r&b, funk, and soul. But other artists that do those genres get a lot of support instead of them. It should be fair but it’s b*******. There needs to be revamping and new innovations to support artist in general. Ciara is recording on her new material and I’m intrigued how the promotion will be to support it. Since people bring her up so much it’s fair to acknowledge her as one of those artist that have the appeal but she doesn’t get as much support. As her fan I have supported and I have my frustrations but I always get excited for new material. I’ll always support her. And the thing is exactly said for Tinashe. Yes my rant is long but whatever. I had to get this off my chest. Tinashe has the support. The ones that support her including myself and others that’s all it matters. I’m finished.
For Ciara they played the hell out of Body Party and I Bet she gets views is a 90s artist whos already peaked. She can still sell records at the average for RnB artists but her last album she tryed crossover type music that failed. she dies her hair blonde just like Tinashe who followa the blond hair to look as white as possible but just know even with all that and great promo your s*** can still bomb.
This to look “white” is b*******. No matter what regardless what kind of records these women artists cater to the general public who have colorists issues won’t support them as much anyway. And for Tinashe being mixed she already established a fanbase just as Ciara but Ciara is black. It’s the LACK of support for more than one woman artist to shine. And I think artists should have the ability to be versatile. And the article twisted Tinashe’s words. She’s being honest how women artists don’t get as much support.
Beyonce and Rihanna have wore blonde hair and the general public supports them. But hey it’s like a pick and choose backwards mindset. *shrugs*
This has nothing to do with weave colour. Ciara’s career died down because CrunkNB which was the genre that made her famous died out by 2007. That’s basically around the same time R&B music was slowing down in mainstream. EDM and Pop music came back with a resurgence but considering that white artists flourish in the Pop World they got the most push. Look at how R&B releases after that slowed down; Usher’s Here I Stand (2008) sold 5 milllion copies as opposed to Confessions (2004) that sold 20 million copies earlier, Alicia Keys The Element of Freedom (2009) sold 4 million copies as opposed to As I am selling 7 million in (2007). Beyonce’s 4 (2011) sold 4 million (radio started to ignore her music and haven’t really played her that much since 2011) as opposed to I Am Sasha Fierce (2008) selling * million. From late 2008 to present pop music has been dominating the industry along with rap and EDM. Rihanna had massive success because she followed the trend and focused on pop songs= pop hits for her.
Alicia Keys is mixed and black ppl fully supports her career! Girl gone with that mess! If anything u have an advantage bcuz of your mixed heritage! Sevyn Streeter is an artist I feel like should be bigger then she is but she’s not! Her skin color limits her audience!
This whack bisssh should STFU her issue is Bobby Brackins wrote her a hit with 2 on .
He should have just wrote her whole album, but her team were acting too fancy tryna work with Dr Luke etc Max Martin
Forgetting that Aaliyah was made by young fresh writers n producers. rkelly, timbo & missy.
So really her team are trash. She has no back bone.
N she is dumb as evident about black women, cuz hunny if u were 4 shades darker you would be working at A’rbys. Sit down
It’s the consistency of her music nothing to do with race. Her 1st album was / is really good. She would’ve did better saying the female in the industry don’t get the same play/respect as others. That’s also b/c ppl have their minds mind up on who their favorite artist are at this time period we live. It also doesn’t help that she has called her fans “Fake Fans” in the past #StayHumble.
the thing is….she does need for blacks to accept her first, because we set the trends and whites follow.
however, us not accepting her has nothing to do with her skin color, but more to do with her lack of direction and identity
Tinashe aint making sense. I agree the black community is hard to please, black people start by being faultfinding before getting on board, but even the beyonces and rihannas she mentioned faced some serious resistance, so its not the issue here. The issue is simply that, she is not what the industry is looking for. There is nothing magnetic about her, lacks presence, and her music isnt all that. Its not bad, just nothing that strikes a different chord. Very cookie cutter by today standards. I remember listening to Flames and thinking this is something jordin sparks would have sung back in 2008. And that sound wasnt even poppin when jordin sparks was still making it. Its simply the wrong era for her. In another time and place, maybe she would have stood a chance. But in this current climate, nah. Theres too much competition and she cant keep up.
But….. Her only hit came from urban radio. She’s been dancing across genres ever since. Its so popular to blame community, in order to play victim. But, the black community is the only ones who kind of know her.
Tinashe did Not Tell A Lie..
We Have This poor girl Sevyn Streeter been trying for bout 3 years trying to drop her Album and she keeps pushing it back cuz our blacks Judgemental Asses don’t give her the support that she deserves, ..
Oh Yeah we’re the first one to give an oppion about everything, tear down another ones grind and hustle but we can’t click the PURCHASE button on iTunes and these other sites to let our black Artist know that we’re Here front row Center for them.. Tinashe is right.. If you ain’t Bey or Rih you ain’t sitting at the Table.. The reason The White Artist Win Is because we let them.. We Are a weak ass Black Nation and all we do is talk and talk and dont do s*** to make a change in this f***** up double standard Music Industry.. It’s time for us to stop This BS, stop Dissin our Black Artist and for once and support them.. Let’s Flood the Billboard Top140 Charts with Black Artist at least one Year.. Give Them some Grammys and some VMA Awards.. It’s Rdiculous!!
True we RnB isnt selling like rap! BLK youth thats all they listen to mainley
! Not everyone is ment to succeed Sevyn and Tinashe mght be those chicks. Another thing its white fanbases that MAKE BEY RIH NICKI You have to pretty much get what u can get Ask Usher & Alicia Keyes!
And people sitting here acting as if every black female artist will get the exact results as their peers. Sevyn Streeter is a unique artist but she actually has substance just like Tinashe. And the commenters on here I’re probably the ones that don’t support Tinashe and Sevyn Streeter. And I’ll say the rest of black women artists that don’t have that “appeal”. Beyonce and Rihanna has general public support but other women artists that have the ability to cater to the auidence get overlooked. It’s just hypocrisy.
Just because you think Sevyn Streeter and Tinash are “unique artists” and have “substance” does not mean others do. Learn the difference between an opinion and a fact. Also learn the definition of timing and phrase “nothing personal.” When bigger R&B artists like Mary J. Blige, Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, Usher, Brandy, Monica, and even Trey Songz, etc have low album sales or flop records you don’t hear them playing the race card because the entire r&b genre is not selling. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the current state of the economy. If Tinash wants to be pop why doesn’t she attack pop music consumers (white) for not supporting if she wants to be petty and race bait?
@Applause how about you buy your favorite artists’ songs on itunes and give them to people? Until you do that you nor anyone else can control other people’s money.
Blame the black community for your cheesy music and cheesy forced image that we are not required to buy! We support talent! Real talent! That it factor! Whitney, Brandy, Missy, Diana, Tina, Patti, Aretha… all darker then you tinashe… Beyonce and rihanna are mixed too! Light skinned just like you.. what does YOU bein mixed.. light skinned… have to do with black people? White aka your European side controls your career.. ask them?
lol.
Tinashe needs to understand , we’ve had like 20 of her in the last 40 years of urban music alone.
Every version of her stood out for the fact that either they pioneered the style,wrote better,sang better, danced better or actually had charisma.
Tinashe problem is that she has no charisma at all.
If she came out during contemporary R&B’s last major run, she would be B-C list still!
It isn’t that the black community won’t embrace her as an artist, it’s just she’s a wack rehash of B-C list artist we’ve forgotten about and don’t want to remember, because their not worth being remembered. Tinashe is like if Toya,Olivia,Brooke Valentine, Cheryl Dennis, and all the other one hit wonder R&B females of the early 2000’s kept trying to ride out their one hit.
Either bring it next time around or find another career. You don’t appeal much to other races either. You just think bashing black will bring them looking your way.
Tinashe does have a fanbase. The usual she doesn’t “appeal” is a b******* excuse. The issue women artists need support and it’s okay for more than one to shine. And she’s not going to end up like those women artist you mentioned because too had substance. It’s the b******* “pick and choose” mindset. Hell these men artist get support and most of them get shine. But the women artists there’s this “pick and choose” b*******. She NOT bashing the black community. She has black fans that support her including my damn self. Just because other black people aren’t into her records will NOT change how she is as an artist. And she already established a fanbase. There’s a variety of fans that support her. Her records have substance. And for the general public to only acknowledge her “2 On” record without her mixtapes and debut album tells me that people haven’t did their research. Regardless people that don’t support her will NOT keep people that DO support her to support and be fans. She KNOWS this as well. People try to downplay ANY women artist speaking out against b******* no matter who it is. And for the record Tinashe actually wants to have longevity.
@4everBrandy_Ci I think everything Yimme said is 100% correct. You say a bunch of BLAH but record sales speak for themselves. If Tinash had all the substance you claim she would be further along in her music career so don’t knock or discredit the “substance” artists like Toya,Olivia,Brooke Valentine, Cheryl Dennis, etc brought to the industry. All of those women have unique “substance” and unless the “substance” translates into record sales then what good is it? People liking certain music is a natural thing, not a forced thing, so all Tinash has to do is make hit music and stop victimizing herself. I have yet to hear any song (out of her numerous failed singles to debut her 2nd album) that I thought was a hit nor have I seen any of Tinash’s so-called-fans go on social media and promote one of her failed singles as something worthy of being a hit. A hit is a hit and a flop is a flop. Period. There is no in-betweens unless the fans buy enough singles (which obviously is not happening for Tinash)
@Jasmine
You didn’t read what I said. I didn’t discredit those artist. Record sales matter BUT the substance is the factor that is important. There are artist that I won’t mentioned that sale but their records lack substance. And these labels don’t fully invest in a lot of artist nowadays. Yes she needs to have hits but Tinashe isn’t going to water-down her material just for getting sales. Her artistry is on another level. Also her management needs to get it together. And it’s been a struggle for artist in general.
She’s just wack to me