The longstanding beef between Lil Kim and Nicki Minaj was reheated last night, but not by way of the ladies themselves.
During an Instagram Live with Swizz Beatz, R&B icon Usher weighed-in on who should be next to battle on #VERZUZ – following the latest spar between Nelly and Ludacris.
When the notion of Kim vs Nicki was touted, the ‘Confessions’ singer didn’t seem too enthused.
See him unpack why after the jump…
Speaking candidly, the superstar expressed his belief that the femcees paths were too closely aligned and went on to add:
“Nicki Minaj is a product of Lil Kim”
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There’s no love lost between the ladies, fans of both went to war on social media; with Minaj’s Barbz less than impressed with Usher, while Kim’s Hive fist-pumped in support of his sentiments.
That said, what are…
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I mean did he lie!?
While he did not lie I would encourage him to stop going into gay bathhouses in the LA area to procure s** from strange men in the middle of the afternoon. That would be a much better use of his time.
Better to go to a bathhouse rather than the bathroom of McDonald’s where all of the meth heads get their fix. Maybe if you stopped doing that you wouldn’t have a “green peen”
This is none of yo bizness spastic barb
While he’s right, this lil Kim Nicki discussion was a thing 10 years ago..
I mean although that’s hella true why did they even bring their names up KNOWING that will never ever happen. All fr click bait obviously cuz everybody and they dog know that’s never gonna happen. #nextbattleplease
No lies told. Nicki wouldn’t be the Nicki Minaj of today if it wasn’t for Kim. Facts.
So did lil kim begat gaga to cause she also wore colorful wigs and was a s**** on stage and in videos to..
Gaga is not a rapper but then again neither is Nicki for that matter.
Old beef
Nikki admitted the obvious influence. Kim opened doors
Period
Yet Fraudi Minaj called her a has been, and made two full songs about her saying she ain’t sh*t. “Queen of rap” yet al of her big songs are POP! Biggest fraud of the century.
Two things can be true. Nicki respected who Kim used to be before she let herself go. She idolised her until she met her and saw that all that glistens isn’t gold. It happens a lot in music and sports. You grow up thinking someone is dope and then find out the truth avoid them. I suspect it’s a similar scenario with Cardi and Nicki. There are videos of Cardi Dancing to Nicki’s music in the mouse trap she used to work in and now she hates her. Such is life.
Nah bruh. Cardi showed Nicki GENUINE love in the beginning! It wasn’t until cardi started picking up steam that Nicki started throwing subs and well, we know what happened. It’s clear that the only reason nicki is collaborating with up and coming female rappers now because she doesn’t want another female rapper getting #1 hits and success without HER! She wants to show that she is responsible for their success. Doja and her fans are dumb and don’t see that Nicki will claim she made Doja famous because she hopped on say so and got Doja a #1. I can’t wait for the day Nicki shows her trie colors with Doja and the kii is Doja won’t see it coming. She’s always high.
Lil Kim -veteran p**** slapping pink wig wearing fake body Barbie doll rapper.
Get I right….
Idk but something tells me lil Kim is product of a drag queen tho her look was more rupaulish.
Nicky garbaj is a product of a rhino
This co versatile has been going on forever. Back then y’all said Nicki wouldn’t make it now here she is 2020 still has a name for herself meanwhile Kim drops music y’all didn’t support but y’all be ready to say she’s the queen. If anything Kim
Is the queen of gutter vulgar rap that we all like. But there were women before her who are the queens of Rap
There were women but they werent effective like kim and they dont take icon awards after 20 years..
Usher is saying product as in Kim came out in 94 and then Nicki came out in 2007. Nicki was definitely influenced by her and did not come out at the same time, it would not be a fair battle.
I mean, did he lie?
it is a known fact that Nikki did Kim Inspired things to prove she could do it better. She spent a good part of her career mocking and attacking Lil’ Kim. That would not be a good VS
too much bad blood there.
He did not lie. Thing is.. Lil Kim f***** her face up, Nicki Minaj still did not.. but music wise.. old Lil Kim music shits on everything Nicki has ever released. Poing blank. Mic drops.
Obviously, you’ve never heard everything Nicki has released. Your opinion must be based on Nicki’s pop commercial songs. Nicki got some fire ass bars anyway but on her non-commercial songs… Call the fire department.🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sorry. Even Nicki’s commercial pop songs eat Kim’s best tracks so let’s not do that. Kim could have done pop too but you can tell that the dudes around her wouldn’t let her express herself outside of Hip Hop. I remember when she slayed Cyndi Lauper’s time after time . She needed practice but she had a nice singing voice. Nicki’s pop singles are just as fire as her Urban ones. Beautiful Sinner. Va Va Voom. Masquerade. The list is endless hunny.
I know that but I’m saying a lot people base their opinion solely on her singles that they hear on the radio. I said she has fire ass bars anyway…
Whats good with garbaj? Rhino everytime says “shez Queen bla bla bla” in every verse
you are a clown.
Usher shut up and apply your hèrpes cream
Nobody asked u.
Who asked you moronica?
He didn’t lie. Aren’t these battles meant to be peer against peer? People are just plucking names to satisfy pathetic stan wars when this is meant to be a celebration on the culture and music. Black people got to stop this mindset 🤦🏽♀️.
Sorry sis but Lil Kim will never did dance pop songs like Nicki did. All those bops like super bass, starship, turn me on, va va boom… lil Kim is just basic dirty rapper. Nicki is Barbie doll but lil Kim is just a XXX blow up doll
Ugly bug, she is not Barbie doll. She is rhino doll
Go suck yo poke-d-I-c-k and lick yo poke-balls
Go suck nicky the rhino’s ballz, còcksuckerr
Copycat. Tell me something original.
A bey vs rih would be the ultimate battle. Strip bey of a stage and choreography to let the music stand on it’s own and we all gonna realize who got bops and who has to BRING their music alive via production.
True but Beyonce can sing her a$$ off live while riri is really struggling..
But riri definitely got hits but you know what? With destiny’s child hits I’m not so sure riri will win… 2 kings but Beyonce can sing live and riri’s voice tone is Hotter…
You say Rihanna struggles to sing live (Which is shameful when you can’t even do what you’re paid for) then that her voice tone is hot.
Make a battle make sense. Rihanna vs Beyonce is like Ciara vs Deborah C**.
MUSIC IS NOT ONLY ABOUT THE VOICE OF A SINGER
YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A POWER HOUSE SINGER TO BE A GOOD MUSICIAN
MUSIC IS ABOUT FEELINGS
AALIYAH DIDNT HAVE A POWER HOUSE VOICE BUT SHE WAS AND STILL A GREAT MUSICIAN.
IT’S ABOUT DELIVERY, TONE, FEELINGS, EMOTIONS, ATMOSPHERE.
AND RIRI AND BEY ARE 2 OF THE BEST SO YEAH ITS DEFIANTLY WILL BE THE ULTIMATE BATTLE
Rihanna and Beyoncé are not peers nor do they even sing the same genre you might as-well say Rihanna do a battle with pink. This isn’t to satisfy Stan wars and Stan delusions. Beyoncé doesn’t have anyone to battle apart from Usher that would make more sense. This Rihanna vs Beyoncé is simply there because they just happen to be the only two major black musicians apart from that it makes no sense 🤨
Thank you! People keep putting Usher against Chris Brown, JT, even Neyo, and Trey Songz. The way people treat him in these battle suggestions, you’d think he had a career similar to August Alsina. The disrespect! He really is in a lane by himself and his catalog is unmatched when comparing him to his peers, and definitely to artists after him. I think Usher vs Beyonce would be one of the best battles as viewership would be literally through the roof, they both got hits for days, and they are really close friends so the energy would be fantastic! I do think Usher would win no doubt, but she would be the only good opponent I can think of for him.
Beyoncé’s music is critically acclaimed many times over and has received accolades of the highest. You’re not saying anything and it calls y’all that she’s queen of the stage AND music.
Exactly. Beyonce’s music has aged a bit better and has more quality to it. Rih has a ton of hits as well, but Bey’s got her beat. It would be a pretty close battle though. It’s just, they both don’t do the same music. Rih does mostly pop and some R&B while Bey doesn’t mostly R&B and some pop.
I can think of some song battles right now that would actually be pretty fair, though.
Single Ladies vs Rude Boy (Bey)
Irreplaceable vs Take A Bow (Bey)
Partition vs Pour It Up (Bey)
Halo vs Diamonds (Bey, but this is really close so I might have to tie lol)
Mi Gente vs Wild Thoughts (neither are great tbh)
Beautiful Liar vs Can’t Remember to Forget You (Bey)
Love In This Club part 2 vs Hate That I Love You (Bey)
Sorry vs Needed Me (Rih)
Baby Boy vs Work (Bey)
Crazy In Love vs We Found Love (Rih)
i meant Bey for CIL vs WFL lol
Two things. Nicki already acknowledged that and has no problem giving credit to 90s Kim because that Kim was legendary. The problem comes when the Kim of today expects Nicki to bow down to her when there isn’t much left to bow down too. Kim’s career was on the decline long before Nicki arrived and Nicki has outpaced her and beaten a lot if not all of her records because she is a superior rapper. Remember, the iPhone 5 isn’t better than the iPhone 11 just because the 5 dropped First. When it comes to Usher? Brother, take your opinions and turn it into the ointment you need to soothe your stinging penis. You may have settled those lawsuits but don’t think we forgot that we know you like to have s** with men in public bathrooms and that one of the men you slept with was suing your ass for exposing him to h*****. I am willing to bet that both Nicki and Kim are squeaky clean down there. Show us those medical records you were hiding so we can see if you can say the same. Chump.
His d i c k. is not your business. He wont. f u c k your shittty asss. . You better look nicky’s garlic smelly pussiie
Baby, all that wasn’t even called for. All those insults at the man about his opinions. To be quite frank, they are facts. Let’s be direct since you all are beating around the subject. It has nothing to do with whose music is better, who has the most hits etc. When he said Nick is a product of Kim, he meant the girl’s whole style is bitten!! Palease!!! From Nick’s stage attire to her looks to the damn squat with her legs open. Kim started that s***, all of it, the pose, etc and murdered it.
She is tho. lol
U can look Up her saying this
The beef not about who she emulates it’s about homage which she paid but kim wanted to be put back on and that wasn’t nicki job
Exactly so I don’t know why he felt the need to say it as if Nicki wasn’t saying it herself ten years ago. Must be the h***** medication chile.
Absolutely dear and we Barbs love Old school Kim for it so you’re not really saying much. I just don’t know where he finds the time to have the Queen’s name in his mouth when there is so much MALE BUBBLE BUTTS for him to be popping. Keep the queen’s name outcha mouth before your tea goes viral baby.
he wasn’t the one that brought her up stupid
These battles need to make sense. People are just throwing names just for the sake of it. I am all for celebrating the culture but I want battles worthy of the hype.
Garbaj’s name is not quuen . She is silicone filled groupie..
💀😩💀😩💀😩 How long until Fraudi Minaj responds? I detect NO lies!
Kim is a product of Roxanne, Nicki is a product of Kim, Cardi B is a product of Nicki Minaj (although y’all refuse to admit that or won’t believe that there was an attempt to make a female rapper like Nicki due to her successes)
What makes me mad is that everybody claim to stan Kim and want to defend her name til the death of them but then don’t support her music?? I can only really listen to Hardcore myself but I even tried to support 9 but y’all let it flop.
Bittch, kim is a style icon. Who is Roxanne ?
Exactly I never spoke about fashion if were talking actual hip hop, that’s a shame you don’t know who Roxanne is do you know any of the female rappers before Kim?? Queen Latifah, MC Lyte? Jackass do your research before speaking little kid
İ know roxanne dont mind. She is uneffective
Until he is ready to release the names of all
Of the men he piped in that bath house Usher should zip it. You got a lot to say about the Queen but nothing to say about the queens you tryna keep in the closet. Release the medical records before you release your opinion about Onika. #ConfessTHAT
Fcuk you and your moronika … Why u blame usher , all the barbz are f.a.g.g.o.t .. does he want Medical records from you?
But Kim’s last album
Sold under 1000 copies though. It didn’t even chart on the billboard 200 and that chart lists 200 albums. Have yall noticed that all these people want you to think Kim is superior but will never invite her to work with them. Cardi doesn’t like Nicki but has a song with her but doesn’t have a single song with Remy or Kim even though they co-signed her before Bodak. Things that make you go hmmm.
Because Cardi knows she’s above Kim and Remy and that’s why Remy has been throwing shots at her.Remy is still chasing the bag on vh1 while Cardi has mad hits and a real career.
Stoopid , she is independent ..do you proud with 150.000 pure sales of garbajQueen ..
But did he lie? Did he lie? DID HE MOTHAF*CKING LIE?! Facts! Nicki is a clown
He knew exactly what he was doing when he said what he did, both the person who asks the question and Usher.
Ok and he is a product of RKelly and Bobby Brown.
But he didn’t make songs dissing them and saying they were hasbeens. Nicki is the only one that did that and look at her now…a hasbeen hopping on anything that is already a hit for relevance
Rap is about competition wtf is wrong with y’all once Kim dissed Nicki and claimed she’s not showing respect that’s when the gloves came off. Kim was so jealous of Nickis success that she started hating on her and released a mixtape via PayPal that y’all once again let flop.
How do you know? Did he make u slavery or did he fcuk you?
This is a very true statement, you cant have a rap battle with someone you cloned your entire style for. Nicki is not bad but shes more of an musical actress, while lil kim comes from the era before auto tunes which means her art has more originality. A better competition would be Nicki vs Remy Ma. Two different styles tho I believe Rem will kill her in a rap battle, Nicki Minaj is only ‘hot’ because of people like Gucci Mane, Wayne, Birdman. Lil Kim was Biggie protoge but when he died she was still able to produce Platinum albums nd hot music still played to this day….which gives her an overall talent advantage…
We already knew that! Talk about your singles flopping! 🙄 He just wanted to start some mess. Bye
Nicki Minaj like ALL ARTIST are a produxtbof the ones b4 them..bt nicki has went so far past lil kim..itll be like comparing Michael to james brown…james brown came thru…bt micjeal tore thru
Same with the Queen of Rap…lil kim ser the tone..bt Nicki became the tone..period.
S/o to them both…YOU DONT HAVE TO DISRESPECT OR DEMENISH NICKI TO GIVE PROPS TO KIM..
However U place them NICKI STILL REIGNS HERE..PERIOD..
But Nicki never denied it, especially In the beginning of her career idk how long y’all want her to keep saying she was inspired. There is a whole video on YouTube of Nicki giving Kim her props. The same people trying to promote the discrepancies again are the same ones who didn’t support 9 or put her on. They be talking all day but don’t support her through their actions, that’s what I don’t get. It’s always Nicki was inspired, Nicki took, Nicki stole… let’s just say she did still everything from Kim. If Kim had all that why didn’t she become as big as Nicki?? Oh okay. Let’s be real y’all only vocally support Kim cuz it look good on paper. And I’m not gonna lie Kim Had some Bangers but everybody has their day, but when the only time you bring her up is In comparison to Nicki, that not only shows how highly you thought of Kim but how HIGH you think of Nicki. And not only that y’all never bring up the music it’s just the fashion… oop. Because y’all know with the music Nicki.. 💰
Only big thing of garbaj is her rhino a.s.s
0 originality
Haha that’s the only thing you have to say we all know nicki has a fake ass like all the female rappers out now including Kim
Next Caaaaaasssssee
Usher was speaking truth.
The only battle we’ve been waiting on since the ’90s is Kim vs Foxy.
Period!
The whole industry knows Nicki is a product of Lil Kim.
Remember back in 2017 when Beyonce tributed Lil Kim.
The issue is Nicki as a new comer came into the game completely disrespectful attempting to use somebody’s blueprint and erase them from musical history
The general public and the music industry now realizes it.
It’s just funny people thought Kim was crazy back in the day. She knew what was going on.
You know, he and Trey go for this argument but never work with Lil Kim 🤷🏾♂️
Lil Him deserves no respect. She was a black woman that proclaimed she was a white woman stuck in a black woman’s body. She doesn’t love herself. We all know she does not stand a chance if they were to go hit for hit….. Y’all always comparing wigs, photos, and a pose of squatting v**ina. Let’s compare MUSIC. HANG IT UP / FLATSCREEN…….. Washed up has been still cant get an interview today without Nicki being brought up.
While in her earlier years, Nicki stood on the shoulders of Kim and many other female rappers, but so much time has past and her mountain of accolades and more than anything skill set best any other female rapper in history sans grammy awards. Nicki Minaj is the goat, and where Kim lost her way, Nicki made a way.
she made a way to stop other female rappers from shining. She made a way to beef her entire career. she made a way to repeat the same thing in the majority of her features and her songs. nikki is a success but the door was opened for her and she didn’t raise the bar. she just made a lot of noise. her and her fans are the most hurt souls on earth. fighting is all y’all know.
Same can be said for the Kim fans who don’t support anything she drops. It’s 2020 and y’all still talking about colorful wigs and a squat pose
the next vs should be
jermaine dupri and sean puffy combs
Yup. Before Lil Kim, female rappers like DaBrat, MC Lyte, TLC were wearing Timbs and not being feminine s*** (even though Lil Kim shouts out Salt and Pepa). In comes Lil Kim, and everybody is still riding her blueprint. Without Lil Kim’s blueprint, female rappers can’t make it. Just ask Azealia Banks and Remy Ma. And yea, Missy was always in a category by herself but even she started to wear more makeup.
I love him but that’s some coward s***. He worked with Nicki at least two times on HIS songs from what I recall. If she’s so easily dismissed as a ‘product’ then why work with her? 🤔
Lil Kim’s discography is legendary… Nicki Minaj could never…
No lie. They both washed up.
Busted like a flat tire b!tcsh
all the disgruntled baby mommas out there supportin future’s trash a$$ by buying his she music; deserve every second of their bitter lives….