Despite executive producing Ciara‘s forthcoming ‘Basic Instinct’ project, The-Dream had some choice words about the ‘Ride’ singer in a recent interview with Parlour Magazine. More after the jump…
Parlour: You’ve just finished writing Ciara’s entire new album too. Is this really her last shot at pop stardom?
The-Dream: I think so. You only get so many times to, and I won’t say fail, but not achieve. There’s an expectation of where Ciara should be in her career. To others, she’s achieved but not to us, because we saw where her career was headed. But now she’s back on the horse. When she first came out I, like Lil Jon and Jazze Pha, understood exactly who she was. It was that whole Atlanta vibe because if i’m not Atlanta, no one is. I knew if I had a chance to get with her creatively, there’s a specific type of swagger that she’s got. Tricky and I did her whole album, but it’s not all shallow songs like “Ride.” There’s play time but there’s substance too, it’s a great listen.
I’m kinda on the fence with this one; part of me feels Dream should be commended for offering his true opinion (especially considering how Politically Correct / media trained artists these days tend to be aka. dancing around such questions).
That said, being that he is actually involved in the project, I can’t see how making such statements will be beneficial to Ciara. Yes, he labels the album ‘a great listen’, yet only after saying that she’s essentially ‘done’ if this project doesn’t sell. Arguably, a somewhat fair enough statement, yet it’s one I can’t help but feel doesn’t do any favours for Ciara.
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That punk b****** needs to shut up with his flop no singing ass.
So that must mean no more albums from him and Christina Milian too.
Dream was partially responsible for the lackluster performance of Memoirs, if you ask me. Fans were highly disappointed and even put up a petition. But he has a point with Ciara. Her time will be up eventually.
No more albums from Mariah and Janet. They both had poor sales too.
He’s right. Ciara, Alexandra Burke are all flops and need to #SIT and allow the QUEENS Bey and RiRi to take control, yagemmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii?
whyyyy the f*** are they producing the entire album..smhh
Im glad the Dream knows this is no joke!!! He’s telling truth, Ciara needs to get a grip this time round.
Christina Aguilera should quit too. She had poor sales. Kelly Rowland might as well give up. Her and Kelis are past their sell by date
Now we know who leaks Ciara’s songs. Her own producer is sabotaging in public.
i might sounds like a weirdos but i dnt fink wat he said offended ciara :/ he just said she was on da wrong way dat there are things we can find out about her as an artist dat we have never seen. He said she kinda lost her way i fink he appreciates her talent. He just wanted to say that if she goes on da vide she’s currently on : ciara’s carreer will b over soon.
I love when artists or people in the industry are brutally honestly like that and say the things the fans have all known or debated for a while. Evolution was a mild success and Fantasy Ride was a total flop, so far this project has a terrible start so I don’t know what Ciara needs to do to pull out a hit and gets some life and INTEREST in her career.
I went to Perez HIlton (who’s audience is what she is trying to capture) and there was a post on here, there were only like 20 comments and most where “who is Ciara?” “where has she been?” which leads me to believe that if your not a ubber stan or on urban blogsites everyday Ciara just hasn’t been on your radar? Why? Because no one is checking for her and her label is dropping the ball.
Mark my words, this project WILL flop, she keeps coming out with more of the same.
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IDC what he feels, he should’ve kept that to himself, she needs positivity not this s***. He’s the 1 that needs to be saying that for himself, 3 albums & he’s still not relevant as a singer/performer. It is somewhat true, but he out of all people producing the album, needs to stay positive for her behalf
WHO LETS ONE PERSON WRITE THEIR WHOLE ALBUM? WTF HE IS NOT THAT GREAT. HE WRITES GOOD SONGS FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE BUT WHENEVER HE WRITE A WHOLE ALBUM IT FLOPS. MARIAH, ELEKTRIK RED, HIS ALBUM, AND NOW C-ERROR. YOU NEED AT LEAST 5 DIFFERENT SONG WRITERS C-ERROR AND AT LEAST 4 DIFFERENT PRODUCERS. CAN’T YOU GET NEYO TO WRITE YOU SOMETHING? I MEAN DAMN. I SWEAR I NEVER SEEN A BISH THAT ACTS LIKE SHE ACTUALLY WANTS TO FLOP.
I DON’T KNOW WHO ACT DUMBER. C-ERROR AND HER 1 PRODUCER OR KELLY AND HER SELF TITLED ALBUM.
ANYWHO R.I.P C-ERROR’S CAREER 2005-2009.
HE WAS KEEPIN IT REAL
Tbh im not really a fan of the dream (and tricky) and I was disappointed to hear that they were doing almost all of the album. They’ve produced some great songs (Umbrella, High Price for example) but a lot of their stuff is rubbish, and it all sounds the same. And i mean look at how “Memoirs” turned out, and they did the whole of that.
Also, this could possibly be Ciara’s last good shot (who knows though), and why has she done basically no promotion (except a few radio interviews), no tv appearance, no live performances? Obviously I love cici, but i just think she could be doing a bit more to push “ride”…us fans are doing our best, but it needs to reach a wider audience to become a big hit.
B**** has been flopping since the Evolution.
Ride has already flopped and so will the new album.
bye, bye CI-ERROR your time is up, I did like this b**** but she’s had her chances and failed everytime.
Bye, Boo, Boo.
Everyone knows this is Ciara’s last chance. Unless The Dream pulled off another “Umbrella,” Ciara will come to regret her decision of making an entire album with this guy. I’m pulling for Ciara, but she needs to put in the mother f****** work. Release the next fucken single already!!!!
The album will do well, ride is doing better than expected, this week it entered the top 10 of the ever comparative billboard hiphop/ rnb chart by jumping a whooping 9 places from 18 to 9, thats good news for her! thiz will give the album a nice buzz when it comez, so shez kinda safe 4 now, the track also moves 71 to 65 on the hot 100, a good look.
ANON
SHUT UP. KEEP JANHOVA & MOTHER LAMB OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
Delete me as much as you want samantha, I’m not going anywhere b****.
HE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF C-ERROR FLOPS AGAIN THIS TIME, THEN HE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POOR EFFORTS HE PUT INTO HER WORK!
I LOVE HOW SOMEBODY WHO’S NEVER HAD A #1 SONG OR #1 ALBUM AND SCREWS OVER EVERY ARTIST HE WRITES FOR CAN THROW SO MUCH JUDGEMENT AT EVERYBODY ELSE!
WASN’T HE THE ONE WHO ALSO CLAIMED THAT “HE AND C-ERROR” WERE THE NEXT TIMBALAND AND AALIYAH?
BECAUSE AS I CAN RECALL, TIMBALAND ACTUALLY WRITES AND HAS HIT SONGS AND #1S
I couldn’t agree more with the others. Dream SHOULD NOT be writing and producing full albums, and Mariah was stupid for letting him and Tricky take over Memoirs. I bet you she won’t be letting them produce her albums in their entirety again.
I believe Ciara is making a huge mistake by allowing those two to produce her entire album. If this album flops, she should just stop releasing albums and just release singles on iTunes. She doesn’t really have the talent anyway.
if Queen Mariah flopped hard with these guys why would Ciara think she would have sucess with them? I think she wants to flop on purpose
She’s letting this c*** write and produce her whole entire album? I just can’t be bothered with Ciara anymore, I have no time for lazy artists especially when they have no singing abilities. I mean Rihanna can’t sing but the chick works hard, which is more than I can say for Ciara who is forever sitting on ustream and attending parites with her idol Kim Kardashian.
^^^^ Rihanna can sing. A hell of a lot more than Ciara. Let’s not be delusional here. Never heard of Russian Roulette?
Anyways, Ciara is over. Like someone said earlier, you go to mainstream websites like Perez
hilton nobody knows who she is. Nobody’s checking for her. Her first single should’ve been top ten on itunes from the gate if people had any interest. She’s still out the top 100, flopping like a fish out the water.
DREAM NEEDS TO SHUT HIS MOUTH CUS LAST TIME I CHECKED THE LAST TIME HE PRODUCED SUM1’S ALBUM WHICH WAS MARIAH’S IT FLOPPED BIG TIME, SO IF I WAS CIARA I WOULD BE WORRIED.
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as a die hard Ciara stan. The-Dream is RIGHT but He’s also WRONG! If anything he should be hyping her album up, like he did Mariah’s and etc. Him making that statement puts doubt in the project. but this is Ciara’s LAST chance to redeem what she has & in my opinion Im not seeing that happen. Yes! Ride is slaying the urban charts, which was what she needed cause she had lost that, with the F.R era. but her not performing & shoving her single in & evryones face will not help. Her as needs to be on her knees begging to grab performances on BET, MTV & etc. i dnt care what it takes, she needs to get on her job. this is a artist i dont wanna see fade. the problem is, Ciara is sitting & waiting on her label to do the promo. F*** them, u do the promo ur self. I wldnt care, i would be doing free performances just to be prompting my s***. I would be on my knees sucking my labes d**** to get FULL promo. but Ci still gets my full support & i will be buying 3 copies, AGAIN this era.
But yall confuse me because you say you want Urban Ciara(which is what she gave you with Ride and it’s succeeding there) and then you say you want her on Perez Hilton…that doesn’t match. See this is Jive’s problem…they tried to push her to be a pop star when she was already a pop star by crossing over into pop radio with urban songs. If Ciara came out with a record like “OMG”, you all would be all over her saying she’s abandoning her roots but then if she come sout with R&B leaning records then you say she’s not mainstream enough…MAKE UP YOUR MINDS
& the other problem is, Ci has no real fans. Yea we all sitting on USTREAM watching her, but ya asses need to tell her to get off & f****** prompt & not radio promo. performance promo. thats y i dnt comment when she’s on USTREAM. ya stans telling her, shout me out, do this in that but ya aint telling her what she needs to hear. why u think Rihanna is getting by, cause she listens to her fans. she takes in there advice & if she isnt doing good, she wants her fans to tell her before its too late. but No! us Ci stans waited until F.R didnt do as expected to say a few things. SMH
HE’S TELLING THE TRUTH IF SHE DROPS THE BALL THIS TIME IT’S OVER FOR HER BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SHE NOT TRYING HARD ENUFF OH WELL THERE’S ALWAY MISS KERI BABY YES SHE DISSED BEY BUT IT SEEMS LIKE SHE WANT IT MORE AND I THINK CIARA IS PLAYING AROUND
@CC It because “Ride” was the worse single they could have picked for her first release !!!! not even BET will play the video, what makes you think white networks will pick it up? The same thing happen to Xtina and the sad part is that her album was actually good ! ” so i heard”
Who the hell allows a single producer/writer to do a entire album, in this day and age it cut cutting we want variation !!!!!!
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@Tynisha, that’s exactly what I’ve come to expect from those who follow Ciara’s career. No one quites knows what they’re going off about but making noise for the sake of getting a word in doesn’t seem like a bad idea to this particular crowd. It’s pretty damn ridiculous.
On the topic of ‘Basic Instinct’, I believe it’s titled just that for a reason. Shame some of y’all are so fickle.
@RudeBoii ‘Ride’ is top ten @ Urban and likely to hit the top spot, so what exactly are you one about? Its banishment from BET only prompted additional press coverage for Ciara as well. No loss there.
‘Variation’ compromises consistency. I’d much rather a concise listening session than slovenly put together album, i.e. Fantasy Ride.
all the songs the-dream produces & makes himself sound THE SAME
@Zill exactly…like if she makes an “Umbrella” type record how does she follow that up? The people that ran out to get the Evolution and Goodies, would not go out to get her record with that sound. She would be going with another audience. Why can’t she have “Goodies” and “1,2 Step” type of records and just crossover without trying so hard. Ciara will be fine, she’s in her own lane again and that’s where she shines.
i wonder if someone is behind Ciara’s music struggle . I don’t remember her having a problem with radio//video play and promo before. Who would be her “competition” right now? I cant think of anyone but Rhi, but Rhi can’t even measure up to C’s level of entertainment and C’s voice doesn’t annoy me.
@ BEYONCE VS. THE WORLD- IF CIARA FLOPS AGAIN, THIS TIME, IT’S THE DREAM’S FAULT. IT WOULDN’T BE CIARA’S FAULT THAT THE DREAM CANNOT WRITE A HIT SONG TO SAVE HIS OWN CAREER LET ALONE SOMEBODY ELSE’S!
^^^agree wit tynisha. Also if Cici career ends what am i gonna listen. tired ol’ beyonce nd rihanna. I dont think so.
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Ciara just needs to get her s*** together, and like I said before she is lazy as f***! How long has ride been out for and she hasn’t even started promotion. If she thinks sitting on ustream is promotion, than she’s even more useless than I thought she was. I just can’t take her. Her fans constantly make a fool out of themeselves in her name all over the blogs and the b**** can’t even give them a decent album. She doesn’t deserve to be successful if she’s not willing to work for it smh
I feel what he is saying, but there is no way in hell this should have left his lips. How in the hell are you the producer of someones entire album and talk this ish? This would’ve have been much more received if it came from someone who wasn’t on her team, but I mean damn man how could. Yes as a die-hard fan for Ciara I wish her the best and most success because she shows so much promise if she would get it together! She could even be our modern day Aaliyah if she wanted to. YEAH I SAID IT AND I AIN’T TAKING IT BACK! She just needs to reignite the fire that she once had. I don’t miss the Goodies Ciara I just miss the vigor and determination that showed she wanted it. Okay Ustream is a cool way to connect, but i want to see you perform get the word out. However in the same token she is doing well seeing that Ride is # 65 on the hot 100 but it won’t stay there by itself. I love you see and always will I just don’t want to see you fade!
Dream has hits under his belts, so stop with the nonsense. He gave Beyonce one of the hottest hits of her career as well as Rihanna.
and @ Tynisha you said that ish best! co-sign!
^^^co-sign A.Mason
She has definitely lost her touch. I liked Goodies but it was kind of childish. Her 2nd album was ok but her 3rd was a hot ass mess…then she came out with Ride, I barely hear that song on the radio…SMH. Get it together CiCi or your label in going to drop you like a hot potato!
And yall talking bout cici is lazy and only doin promotion on ustream. Most of the time she in the studio while she ustreaming so obviously she is workin
thanx bjksolo
and dream spoke the truth..lol Gotta respect him for that.
@TIFF of cousre goodies was childish we were children when the song came out!! slow one!!!
I think what the “Dream” had said was true, being a Ciara fan myself. I enjoyed her last album, but the sales were dismal.
But, if you can enjoy listening to the garbage that gets played these days a la “Keisha”, than I guess the innovative tunes that are coming out the hot s*** fine ass of Ciara is not worth your time.
Aaliyah was the original “street but sweet” style infused sexiness. But since her passing, Ciara has come in to fill her void.
It is sad that artists as talented as Ciara goes so unnoticed, outside the urban world. Ciara is an URBAN artist unlike sellouts like Beyonce and Rhianna who have to turn to pop to make themselves bigger. If Beyonce only stuck to making songs sounding like “ring the alarm” or “diva” she would NOT be where she is today. Beyonce has become a pop artist, just like Rhianna. rude boy, come on now, how “urban” is that?
Ciara’s “ride” has broken top ten on URBAN radio this week, she’ll bust her way into the top of the charts once the tired songs from usher/alicia keys wear off.
I think The Dream is super talented, I’m a huge fan of his wife too. And he is right, you got to be honest here. She hasn’t been out as long as other people who may have flopped (Janet and MiMi had hits after hits once upon a time, hopefully they can again) and with Evolution doing good (but not awesome and the material was kind of lacking except for the singles, thats how I see it) and Fantasy Ride not even taking off, this is her last shot.
I feel that from the start, Go Girl should of BLEW UP! The video was fantastic, and the song could of been a trademark for her. Work should of blew up that video was even more incredible and the song was sure fire anthem in the clubs. And Ride should be blowing up, the video is awesome. And lastly those Ciara stnas are CRAZY! LOL. She has the best fans.
So everyting’s been on point, don’t know why she isn’t toting the charts like people with this awful material are climbing up it like a step ladder.
I’m no actual CiCi fan but I just had to do like the Dream and be honest!
@DYNAMITE I DON’T LIKE THE DREAM AS A SOLO ARTIST BUT ARE U SERIOUS DO U NOT KNOW ALL THE HIT RECORDS THAT THE DREAM HAS WRITTEN (TOUCH MY BODY,SINGLE LADIES,UMBRELLA,AND MANY MORE)SO IF CIARA FLOPS IT HER FAULT NO ONE HAS A GUN TO CIARA’S HEAD MAKING HER WORK WITH THE DREAM NO HAD A GUN TO BRANDY’S HEAD MAKING HER WORK WITH DARKCHILD CIARA IS NOT TRYING HARD ENUFF GOING TO DINNER WITH LALA WON’T GET HER A HOT RECORD SORRY
Preach at @Amason,@BJKSolo,and @ Bullfighter808
OMG cici goes out 2 eat once and everybody talkin bout she not workin or tryin hard enuff give her a break!!!
IF SHE FLOPS IT IS NOT THE DREAMS FAULT CIARA IS NOT THAT TALENTED FACE IT
thanx tynisha lol
AND WHY ISN’T THE DUMB B**** PERFORMING RIDE
so wat if ciara cant sing as gud as beyonce. I cud and many other people can related 2 her music she makes. unlike sum of beyonce songs
Yes this is cici last chance with fr she lost alot of her fans yes she did no one can denie it and when her fans is cheakin 4 her again she want to be lazy no promo or any thing and if she flops its not his fult he didnt force her to make him write the whole album if she want to save her carear this the list of prod and writers and some stuff she need to work on asap 1. darkchild (he worked with her in fantsy ride and she didnt but the best song of the era in the album switch) 2. Jazz pha if she need to go back call him 3. Stop being over the top s*** i personly dont like it i like the jacket and bans ciara better than the sexd up 4. Some song with danja will be dope then she can have a hit album
y r u gettin so angry beyoce vs. the world?
thanks Tynisha =]
@gangstera usually artist do promo when there album is close 2 completion. The amount of time I c Ciara ustreamin in the studio is probably the reason y she hasn;t done so much promo
And every s*** the dream had writen for artists beside beyonce and rihanna is wack i only like his work with them
AM ANGRY BECAUSE CIARA FANS ARE MAKING LAME EXCUSES FOR WHY S*** IS GOING DOWNHILL FOR HER
The Dream is OVER (see Mariah’s MOAIA)
CIARA is OVER (see her second and thirs album)
DoN’t care about them anymore.
They both are over.
@bjksolo shut up…I can have a opinion on something if I want..and if you dont like it you can skip over my comment. I can tell you are a child! Man I cant wait for school to start back up! lol
BLAME IT THE DREAM
@ gansterea so u telling me when that song bed by (j holiday written by the dream) came on u wasn’t jammin 2 it. UR A LIAR!! LMAO!!!
@ TIFF yeah i can’t wait for school 2 start back up either my first year of college. Tell me Tiff did u go 2 college?
^^^^^^^^ AGREE’S WITH EVERYONE ABOVE
she’s not on her A game & us as fans, stans, supporters etc. should be the ones tellin her that she isnt. Ciara needs someone on her team, that should be telling her, ” No B****, this is a mess & will cause u to flop AGAIN! ” in thats something Beyonce & Rihanna has in they also have say into there work in by now Ciara should have lots of say into her work. & as a stan, i dont like the fact The Dream and Tricky are executive producing her album again for the 2ND time, if them producing it aint wrk the first time, then what made them think its gonna happen this time. & there still in the studio, so its obvious, they havent found the hit record she needs, or else that would of been the first single. Yes! i like all the leaks but i need to hear a hit across all the charts. but i guess Ci feels she’s accomplished everything she wanted in life. and Yes! a pre-tour is suppose to happen but damn they havent even released no dates or places for that. at least last era with the evolution, her old manger had her pre-tour set and planned wks before the album’s release, Ciara just let go all the wrong people on her team.
P.S i really need to find Ci & kidnap her & tell her ass what she is doing wrong.
WHO’S THE BLAME FOR THE FLOP CALLED GO GIRL WHO THE BLAME FOR THE FLOP OF NEVER EVER AND MARIAH’S ALBUM WAS HOT IT JUST DID SALE THAT MUCH BUT IT WAS HOTTER THAN ANYTHING CIARA EVER PUT OUT
i agree wit sum of the stuff u say antwaun i wish she wud have timbaland or sum one like kanye produce sum of her songs
TIMBLAND IS WORKING WITH KERI SHE GOING TO GET DROPED JUSTLIKE ASHANTI
damn and i like ashanti wit dat the way that i luv u song dat was da shyt. i dont really care so much 4 keri thou
BUT I WILL AGREE SHE NEEDS TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT PRODUCERS AND I HOPE SHE’S NOT TRYING TO RECREATE GOODIES BECAUSE SHE WILL FAIL
Beyonce vs the World, who the f*** cares what you say!
A lot of albums in the past had only one production unit, a la Janet Jackson!
Go screw yourself and listen to “if I was a boy” or whatever. Beyonce only had ONE song that was good off her last album…… halo, and it wasn’t even that good. Her songs are NOT classics, unlike miss Ciara.
If you liked Singles Ladies, it was most likely because you were a girl. Unlike Ciara’s songs, where it appeals to both men and women. Damn, Ciara is HOT, just like Aaliyah.
Beyonce is soooooooooo boring.
yes I did you little turd. And I graduated.
bullfighter i a huge cici fan but i disagree wit u beyonce is not boring I like Ci and B y do we always have 2 put one artist down bcuz we like another its not rite
im past that @TIFF u took 2 long come wit a comeback.
I am going to buy this album. I didn’t buy fantasy ride because it didn’t stuck out to me. But I saw that Ride video and the song is hot, so I’m excited for it. This is the Ciara i miss.
Imagine if Ciara stopped making music, whether you hate her or not you can’t get enough of her. You will always be looking out for her every time. At least that’s what I noticed.
agree wit kristen
F*** yall haters, Ciara is back, THIS is the Ciara I have been wanting to see. I am definitely buying her album.
@bullfighter
see its Ci stans like YOU! that make us look just as bad as the B stans. dont compare Ci to B, when B has been on her A game. Unlike our fav Ci. ur pushing it, ur bout to cause a Ci VS. B post & thats not what its about. u need to be requesting & buying Ride with every penny u got. sitting on her making delusional statements will NOT get are fav where she wants to be. i like Beyonce but i like Ciara alot more. I dont find Beyonce boring she’s just overrated & nothin is wrong with that, cause thats how OUR fav CIARA needs to be
TRUE DHAT!!! ANTWAUN
sigh..I guess you cant help the mentally atrophy…smh.
@TIFF R U TALKIN ABOUT UR MENTAL ATROPHY OR MINE?
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I have come to a decision. I LIKE CIARA. Most people on this site are
Beyonce fans (I am one too, that’s my girl). But the haters are always the same people, which goes to show me how much hate people have on Ciara. I will admit i was one of those haters, that didn’t give this girl a chance because Beyonce fans ate my mind into thinking she’s not talented. I still will not be buying Fantasy Ride though. But I WILL be buying Basic Instinct. So far it looks like a good album. So I just recently became a fan. Ciara goes hard and she is talented.
The haters know that she goes hard. She just hasn’t sold her soul like Beyonce and Rihanna to the pop (As in not urban Pop) audience.
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@BULLFIGHTER808 LOOK HERE BEY IS A LITTLE IN HER INTERVIEWS BUT BEY IS NOT BORING AND BEYONCE MUSIC IS WAY MORE CLASSIC THEN CIARA’S ARE U SERIOUS GOODIES WAS APART OF THE CRUNK PHRASE WHICH IS NOW PLAYED OUT BEYONCE MUSIC WILL STILL SOUND CLASSIC 10 YEARS FROM NOW BUT WHO’S GOING TO WANT TO HEAR GOODIES,OH,OR GO GIRL TEN YEARS FROM NOW TELL CIARA STEP HER GAME UP THEN U COME AT ME WITH SOME B******* B**** PLEASE U MUST BE REAL DUMB TO SAY BEYONCE MUSIC ISN’T CLASSIC BUT CIARA’S IS THE SLOW SIDE OF I AM SASHA FIERCE IS TIMELESS NOW THAT FAST SIDE ISN’T SO TIMLESS BUT CIARA IS A PHRASE LOOK AT HER NOW HA
LMAO @Maria ur mad funny
Ciara needs to go back to the ciara that she was when she came out..the girl next door who did her thang and could dance. When she tried to change her image up and get all s***, it did more harm than good.
But on another note, who the f*** is dream to say something about somes career…All his s*** sounds alike.Its catchy but hes not that great of an artist..hell that GOOD of an artist. Go sit ur fat ass down somewhere continue to eat KFC.
I agree with @ANTWAUN
When ciara first came out I’m not going to lie I was hooked i became a huge fan , she was a mixture of JANET and Aaliyah put together she gave me everything I wanted, I loved her goodies ERA that for me was my favourite ciara . But the wierd thing is insTed of going up and up she is going DOWN! LIKE WTF CC she was the cool girl in the pack.
And GO GIRL should have been a hit and i agree she is ALZY im sorry dame even rihann a cant sing or dance that great but the b**** still WORKS..Yall never seen no Beyonce on USTREAM like dame girl PULL yourself together..I love ciara but she needs to be in her A GAME!…because if she don’t come hard in this album then she is a FLOP! nobody will be checking for her no more… RIDE is a great song she needs to promote that ish..I think I might start support her ass again because I kinda still dig her and I think she needs some CRAZY STANS if a artist don’t have Crazy stans than boy you pissed loool because the satns are the one that buy your ish,, She needs to do a Goodies Part 2
And stop with these ballads ciara is the queen of CLUB music so she needs to make more up-tempo music none of this sad s*** like jhhhez…She really needs to step her cookies up….WTTTF is Th Dream doing her WHOOOLE album dame Im not even going to get into that b4 I rate an essay… F*** THE DREAM!who the HELL l gave him that job,,
@ANTWAUN< — you should become her manager lool because She really don't have a nice team behind her like wow..
She needs TIMBERLAND & MISSY ELLIOT Back in her team so they can do that whole Aaliyah thing again because damme why the hell she chilling wit Kim Kardashian Fo Ciara is a HOT MESS right now,,
WHOA hold up beyoce vs. world. I wud must def want 2 hear cici songs in the future.
CIARA IS A GOOD DANCER BUT SHE CAN’T SING SHE HARDLY WRITES SO HOW IS SHE TALENTED OH SHE CAN SHOP REALLY GOOD I GUESS U B****** NEED TO CHECK YOUR S*** BEFORE U COME WITH B*******
No actually I’m talking about yours..Good luck that..
Yawn! you bore me…NEXT
@BJKSOLO I KNOW BECAUSE U DON’T KNOW ANY BETTER CIARA TIMELESS PLEASE
& conclusion I will be supporting her again well her and Rihanna loool buts he needs to step her game up because right now she needs to be in the List…When i say list I mean
Beyonce
Rihanna
Gaga
^^That List . I would Rather ciara be in that list than gaga =P MWAHAH So yh she needs to come hard..People are just haterz we all know she is talanted and could be HUGE if she wanted to be but she is just a LAZY artist! soo I hope and wish her the best! and I will be buying Basic Instinct!
Just cause christina millian aint s*** dont mean he has to say that lol
SHE HAS GOT WORST AND WORST BY THE ALBUMS SHE CAN’T SING
@ TIFF i bet u feel gud now. Well ok gud cuz i didn’t c** on her 2 talk 2 u. Back 2 the subject I do kno betta @beyonce world jus bcuz u dont like ciara doesn’t mean her music isn’t timeless.
BUT CHRISTINA MILIAN CAN SING CIARA CAN’T
MEN LIE WOMEN LIE NUMBER DON’T
and on that note idk why im even goin back n 4th wit u bee vs. worlld. ur name says it all B VS. THE WORLD so i pretty sure u jus hate on any artist but beyonce
Me thinks so…
NO I DON’T HATE ON EVERYONE BEY I LOVE RIHANNA AND CIARA HAVE ALL THE 7 ALBUMS BUT I JUST DON’T GO FOR B******* EXCUSES DON’T GET IT TWISTED I LISTEN TO ALOT OF ARTIST BESIDE BEYONCE TRY AGAIN
he did wonders with Mary J album [the one before the one she just put out] so Ciara might have a hit on her hands
girlie i b readin the otha post most of ur comments are about u spreading ur hate towards othet arftist jus so u cud bring up beyonce so dont try 2 lie and say u dont hate on n e 1 but bee
this is not good especially comming from someone doing her album..personally i think she needs to work with diff peeps..going back to her roots does not mean working with these 2 only…
besides, the dream and tricky will always save the best for their people..no offense but even the cmilli leaks were the s*** compared to anything cici has put out from the dream…
Beyonce vs the world, I didn’t even read your ignorant post. I tried, but it was just too boring, like beyonce has become.
I have a right to state my opinion! What interesting music has beyonce done for the guys? Single Ladies was a girl’s anthem!
Classic Ciara songs that guys can jam to:
1. Love, S** and Magic,
2. Ride (and Ride remix)
3. Like a Boy
4. Work
5. 1, 2 Step
6. Get Up
The other songs that are unisex but more girl oriented:
1. Never Ever
2. Like a Surgeon
3. Goodies (this song was overrated in my opinion, it only did well because of Petey Paulo’s hit)
4. Promise (huge URBAN jam)
Ciara has a different type of singing voice, like Aaliyah and they both have s** appeal. Beyonce just screams in her music and just caters to women. How many “girl” anthems does she have to do, or how many “female empowerment” songs does she need to do. Seriously, her music and style is sooooo tired!
I am NOT a number one Ciara fan, so I could care less if Beyonce fans hate. They can hate all they want.
Aaliyah was the bomb ass princess of R and B, Ciara is now by default. Sorry Cici fans, but its the truth! No one will replace Miss Aaliyah. And Beyonce is far from being anything next to Ciara!
Beyonce is soooooooooooooo boring. What song has she done lately that appealed to both men and women? Her last album was just songs for the ladies!
Whereas Ciara does songs for both men and women! That is why she isn’t boring!
B**** I DON’T HAVE TO EXPLAIN S*** TO U THIS SITE ONLY POST CERTAIN PEOPLE WACK LIKE AND MANY OF THEM I DON’T LIKE KELLY WACK CIARA WACK CHRISTINA FLOPRIHANNA IS MY GIRL
totally agree wit bullfighter, U said it best
@beyonce vs worrld wtf r u sayin g i can’t understand dat mumbo jumbo!!!
CIARA HAS SOLD 8 MILLION COPIES WORLD BEY’S FIRST ALBUM S***’S ON HER WHOLE CAREER AND BEY WILL MURDER HER ON THE STAGE AND CIARA IS A BETTER DANCER THAN BEYONCE BUT WE STILL WILL MURDER HER ON THE STAGE F*** U AND CIARA HER NEXT ALBUM WILL FLOP I BET MY MONEY ON IT BEYONCE IS THE QUEEN OF THE WORLD JAY-Z IS GOD DEAL WITH IT SHE IS A FLOP ASS B****
CIARA WILL FLOP AM DONE I CAN’T BEAT SENSE IN YOUR HEAD CIARA MUSIC IS TIMLESS FAIL
AALIYAH WHO IS THAT NEVER HEARD OF HER LOL
Im done talkin 2 u @beyonce world cuz u jus said Jayz is god and Im a strong believer in my faith of christianity an believe their is only 1 God. So if u wanna go ahead and call jayz god amd praise him then u go rite ahead cuz the only thing i wanna do when i die is go 2 heaven
I RUN THIS SITE AND WHAT I SAY GOES B****** REALIZE THAT NO I DON’T RUN THIS SITE
Beyonce vs world, you’re lame. Get off on here if you don’t like Ciara. No one gives a f*** what you say!
As I said before, Beyonce is a POP artist. She is not URBAN. Therefore, she can sell more records that way. Which proves my point, she has sold out to Urban music.
Who the f*** cares about album sales. None of her songs are as exciting as Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, or even Madonna.
What songs stand out from Beyonce? B****, you don’t know anything.
Maybe Beyonce can outsell Ciara, but that’s only because she is NOT an URBAN artist.
But, if you think Beyonce is all that, she will NEVER be like Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey and Madonna!
B****, you obviously don’t know anything about music!
JAY-Z IS GOD F*** YOUR FAITH AND WHAT U BELIEVE IN
A FLOP IS A FLOP SORRY
Beyonce vs World, if you haven’t heard of Aaliyah than you’re just on crack. Obviously you don’t know music then! LMAO.
You just lost all credibility. I mean, if you haven’t heard of has beens like Brandy, Mya or Ashanti, that’s okay.
But, if you can’t even google “Aaliyah”, that just either shows that you’re under 10 or over 40 LMAO!
@ BEYONCE VS. WORLD
you talk so much rubbish
A flop is when all the songs after “singles b******” failed to do well, LMAO.
What the f*** was “sweet dreams” what a lame song!
C dats wat im talkin bout bullfighter she hate on everybody but beyonce, even GOD!!!
BJKSOLO, don’t even mind that stupid b**** of waste forum space.
She is probably a Cici fan with nothing better to do.
So, lets just leave the ignorant poster to vent elsewhere.
HAHA I LIKE DAT @BULLFIGHTER
CIARA AND AALIYAH WHO ARE THEY
HAHAHA THATS CUTE @BEYONCE.V.W
I LOVE the ride remix. I thought the original was HOT, but the remix is such a summer jam! Especially with Bei Meiger!
WE WILL MAKE CIARA HER BACKGROUND SINGER
WHERE IS RIDE A SMASH HA HA U B****** ARE CRAZY
i kno rite @bullfighter that is my shyt….that song goes hard
lol, you sound like etta james, in that movie that beyonce tried to be in.
@BJKSOLO, yeah that is def’n the song of summer! Besides all songs by DRAKE!
lol and everybody keep sayin 3stacks had the best verse i think that bei maejor did thou
Wow, wtf was Dream thinking? That’s not the promotion Cici needs right now and for the record Cici may have been inconsistent, but she’s definitely has done enough to recover if this album was to flop. It’s alot of atist that have been trying to hit it big once and when you never get there after several efforts in a row that’s when it’s a wrap(see Cassie). There’s alot of flop “diva’s” that have made alooooot of flop albums and never ever went platnium(Tamia, Amerie, Christina Milian – no hate, I like these brawds). Cici has on 2 previous albums and flopped with only one. This single (Ride) got her back in the game and if a successful album didn’t follow behind it, I’d still say she has atleast one more life to lose (if she’s a cat that has lost 8). Gimme a break! Dream, where is the support? He’s the man killing people’s career (Mariah, Cici -Fantasy Ride). I do think he has the most chemistry with Cici after Rihanna though out of all the artist he’s collaborated with. I don’t mind them doing the entire project together(in this case). I normally wouldn’t like that, but I think it’s safe this time! He just needs to watch his mouth.
The Ride video is a hit and just to let some of you know it did make the top 5 on itunes!
i like drake but i feel like they force feedin us his songs jus like a certain sum one else, but i wont say cuz her crazy obsessed fan is on here lol
DRAKE IS THE S*** STOP HATING CAUSE HE WANT DO A TRACK WITH WACK-ARA
yooo chick did u even read my comment i said i like drake. There was absolutely no hate in any thing i said. Mayb i shud buy u sum hooked on phonics
**The Dream had his moment …he is nothing like he use to be.
**Ride would of been a great hit for Ciara if she had of followed it with Live performances, guess she was to busy walking red carpet’s and partying with Kim Kardashian.
http://www.realtalkwithsimplybrown.com
ANY PERSON WHO IS WILLING TO SAT HERE AND DEBATE ABOUT BEYONCE VS.CIARA IS A DUMB ASS BEYONCE WE KNOW BEY WILL WIN HER HUSBAND IS GOD CASE CLOSED
BEYONCE COULD HAVE MADE RIDE A HIT
ALRITE YALL IM DONE 4 2DAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6W4aK1sbs
#TEAM CIARA
I am a proud Canadian, so I can say this, Drake isn’t all that. But, I will support him, because I am Canadian and proud to have a Canadian doing well!
He is NOT like T.I., Jay Z, Nas etc, but he is still new. He is a much better singer than rapper, and just like Justin Beiber, he is being “forced” on us. but still, I LOVE “Over” and “Find Your Love”.
I think Drake and Ciara should do a song together. Their voices mesh very well!
I think Cici has another chance if this album flops. I mean, at least she gave us two top ten hits off “Fantasy Ride”, Never Ever (Urban) and Love S** and Magic (Pop). Sales are down for everyone.
I like Beyonce, at least she is better than Miley Cyrus crap!
If Beyonce did ride, it would only be a hit with the ladies!
Only Ciara could do the 1 o’clock, 2 o’clock, ….. 6 o’clock and pull it off. Love her facial expression when says 6 o’clock in the video, so HOT!
EVERYONE LIKE BEYONCE SHE HAS ALOT OF CLOSET FANS
man @bullfighter i was about 2 call it a nite but i had 2 come back 2 cosign ur shyt lol
@BJKSOLO, hahaha! That’s right! You tell ’em!
ONCES AGAIN I’VE TURNED ANOTHER POST THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BEYONCE ALL ABOUT BEY NOW MY JOB IS DONE AM OUT OF HERE BYE
yes people like Beyonce…..as their 10/11 choice.
people like miley cyrus or chirstina argerlira don’t even register.
FIND CIARA ON A FORBES LIST HA HA I RUN THIS
WHAT THE F*** ARE U DUMMIES TALKING ABOUT
kmao @bullfighter i dont care wat nobody say im a die hard cici fan i like her personality, her music and n e thing else she will put out in da future
I hope she does better this time around….300k ww is sad
lol bullfighter look how angry she getting cuz nobody responded 2 her. in the words of ciara “she’s a hot mess” lmao
@BJKSOLO, I totally agree! I love Cici’s personality and because of the ignorant fool that beyonce vs world is, I like Cici just as much as Aaliyah now. Ciara can smoke anyone anyday! (well, she’s in there with Aaliayh)
Beyonce had to be in a group to be famous. Lame.
i kno rite wud n e body really kno beyonce if she did start off it dc i dont think sooo
@BJKSOLO, exactly! its actually pretty sad when her biggest hits were actually with DC! How many hits did she really have after her first album? Two tops? And they are both either pop songs or girl anthems. (single ladies and irrestible or something like that, I’m obviously not a beyonce fan if I can’t remember her songs!)
lol and u kno i actually like beyonce its jus ppl like @beyonce,v,w that makes me not like her so much
@BJKSOLO, haha, yeah Beyonce is cool. what you said, I concur!
MY WORK IS DONE U DUMMIES ARE CALLING THE QUEENS NAME THAT’S ALL I WANTED BYE
All these comments. LOL. BUT hes right. Hes absolutely right. Ciara has 1 more shot to get this right or its the end of her recording career. She cant remain R&B for too long because she doesnt have much vocal talent to sustain such a moniker. Shes trying to go POP which has been her goal since day one. I think if she stepped up the vocals she’d actually fill the void thats missing from her career. I think she is beautiful, and a very talented dancer. But I cant see her or see her dances while I listen to a CD
beyonce vs world, you said you were done 8 months ago!
Another Ciara jam that rocks the s*** out of Beyonce is “Basic Instinct”. if you’re able to find that song on youtube, I would be impressed!
That song is basically you and your bitching! Which is tired.
@Maestro, she did try to go pop on Fantasy Ride and it didn’t really work. There is only room for one Urban artist to go Pop at a time (Brandy did it in 94 vs Aaliyah; Ashanti did it 2002 or whenever vs Amerie/Tweet and then there was Beyonce vs Ciara in 2009)
She said her new album is going back to her roots, which is URBAN!
Look at home many attempts Toni Braxton (who is a million times better than Beyonce) has tried to make a comeback and failed. She still has many tries, as does Janet, Monica etc etc. Even Alicia Key’s new album has underperformed, didn’t even debut at number one and she didn’t even have a pop hit this time around!
Ciara is safe, for at least another album. You get three album flops in this era, post 90’s.
Ciara is obviously still relevant. Look at all these h*** posting and hating. You know you’re big when you have people hating you. Work it out CI CI!
COSIGN MUSIC LOVER
Whoa, these singers are just people but man when you go calling an artist God, (I won’t call any names) just know God isn’t above opening up the ground and swallowing you up.
I like music, love Kelly Rowland, but will NEVER go as even 2 Million miles next to saying she is God, because she ain’t, that’s a line that no one should cross.
AGREE 100 PERCENT WIT U SDW
AND @ bEYONCE.V.W. BEYONCE WILL NEVA B THE QUEEN OF POP MADONNA WILL 4EVA HOLD THAT TITLE
AALIYAH WAS THE QUEEN OF RNB..ILL SAY WAS BECUZ SHE’S PASSED.. CIARA DEFINITELY CAME ALONG.TO FILL THE EMPTY VOID AALIYAH SADLY LEFT OPEN..NOT CASSIE.NOT LETOYA..NOT.AMERIE..CIARA DID.. SHE IS OUR AALIYAH.. FROM WHEN SHE DID EVOLUTION..THT WAS IT.SHE WAS THE MODERN DAY AALIYAH..SHE DID THE COMIC THING ON HER 3RD CD JUST LIKE AALIYAH.SHE LOOKS LIKE AALIYAH’S SISTER…THEY DO LOOK ALIKE… NOW………….. PROMISE WAS HER “oNE IN A MILLION” BLATANTLY..CIARA IS IN THERE WITH AALIYAH NOW.. THE ONLI DIFFERENCE IS AALIYAH SLAYED EACH ALBUM.. BUT WID CIARA..SHE HAS INSECURITIES..THATS IT.. WHEN PPL CALL U A MAN..A SWAGGER JACKER.. SO DAMN MUCH..IT DOES HURT A PERSON..CIARA CN TRY N PULL THE TUFF LOOK..BT I KNO SHE HURTS..CIARA LOVES MUSIC SHE NEEDS TO SHOW THAT N SLAY THE F****** GAME AGAIN.NO1 RELLI WANTS GOODIES AGAIN..THEY JUST WNT CIARA “THE CLUB BANGER” GIRL..TO MAKE US DANCE..THATS WHERE SHE WINS IS MAKIN US WNA MOTHEREFFING DANCE OUR HEADS OFF..THTS WER SHE WINS.. THIS IS CIARAS LAST CHANCE CUZ IF U GOING TO HAVE 2 UNDER PEFORMING OR HARSHLY PRAISED ALBUM NO1 IS GNA CHECK 4 U… N LEAVE HER.. SHE HANGS OUT WID HER PEEPS SO WHAT..SHE EATS SO WHAT..ALL IM SAYIN CIARA DONT F*** ABOUT DIS TIME IM NOT PLAYING.N JUS SLAY.LOSE UR INHABITIONS..FORGET ABOUT RI-HANN-HO AND BEYONCE-SCREAMING-SO-YOU-KNOW-IM-IN-THE-ROOM… AND JST SLAY.. SERIOUSLY..F****** SLAY..DO AALIYAH PROUD.. PROVE AALIYAH DIDNT DIE IN VAIN.. CUZ I KNO SHES UR IDOL CIARA DNT FRONT..NWAI @BEYONCE.VS.THEWORLD — BEYONCE IS COOL..SHE IS A LOUD SINGER N SHE KILLS THE RUNS..I CANT LIE..STOP BAGGING ON CIARA WHEN 9/10 THER ACTUALLY FRENDS…OR THEY LIKE EACH OTHER DIDNT BEYONCE SAY SHE LOVED CIARA ON 106 N PARK ANYWAY… CUT THA CRAP N SUPPORT CIARA… N ALBUM SALES DNT DEFINE AN ENTERTAINER…
WHO IS AALIYAH
DAMN COMMANDER DAT WAS GUD. ALMOST AS INSPIRING AS AN OBAMA SPEECH LOL
PLEASE THAT WAS WACK
AND WHO IS THIS AALIYAH GIRL NEVER HEARD OF HER DEAD B****
wow…talking ill of the dead is bad luck. I will pray for you hun…
JAY-Z IS GOD SO WHO ARE U PRAYING TO
Wow… Why all this Beyonce vs Cici stuff. I love them both! They’re in 2 seperate lanes. I’ll be honest, I think Bey is the better artist – but Cici is the only one that gives her a run for her money(in a way). Alicia does too, but they’re all in different lanes. Cici really is good at what she do and she has a sweet personality. Why hate on this girl, I don’t get it! She’s more talented than half the girls most of ya’ll stan for! Her career is far from a flop, so quit it! She’s not there yet!
Cici is our Aaliyah. We need that! For the record Janet is our Queen of pop! Not taking any votes! …end of discussion!
Cici, will still prove herself to be the star we were introduced to on B.I.
Mad?
Meh, I never really liked the Dream, His 1st Album was really Cool & he did his thing on Single Ladies but anything hes done other than that gets a THUMBS DOWN. There are way better Producers out there C-ERROR could be working with. I kinda like Ride though, The video & song are starting to grow on me.
AMERICA’S BEST DANCE CREW MIGHT NEED A NEW JJUDGE
BEYONCE VS. WORLD I think you should make babies with BEYDABESS, y’all crack me up LMAO
ALL THE JAY-Z GOD AND S*** IS JUST JOKE BUT WHY ARE WE COMPARING BEYONCE TO CIARA
and you are all MAD if you say Ciara is the new Aaliyah, that is an insult to the Princess Aaliyah, I bet she is rolling in her grave atm
WHY ARE THEY COMPARING CIARA TO AALIYAH AALIYAH COULD REALLY SING
If Jay Z is your god, than you better get on the Aaliyah bandwagon b****! She owned the remix to Miss You! If Damon Dash didn’t get Aaliyah, Jay Z would’ve had her to himself! Jay Z knew Aaliyah was hot s***, that’s why he was around her, supporting her during the 2000 era, way before he even got with it with Beyonce.
You obviously don’t know any music, and how many times do you need to say you’re gone and come back to b**** more? Beyonce vs world (your grammar sucks by the way).
Like who says Drake vs World. Its Drake vs THE World. Get it straight b****!
Ofcourse Aaliyah could sing b****, why do you think so many people like her!
Seriously, you’re so lame!
@BJKSOLO, you are so right “Promise” was “One in a Million” Even though I never personally cared so much for “one in a million” I’m glad it was a hot jam for Babygirl!
My fav Aaliyah tracks
1. If Your Girl Only Knew
2. Its Whatever
3. More Than A Woman
4. At Your Best Remix and Album cut
5. The One I Gave My Heart To
6. Loose Rap
Yes, some of them are “girly” songs, but any song by Aaliyah was a radio killer!
Ciara def’n is our Aaliyah. Her moves, her body, her voice, so Aaliyah! She IS a guy’s girl!
@ B vs W
lol you are going to hell with gasoline tampons crammed up your snatch!
omg @beyonce vs world you need to stop being so f****** funny right now i cannot deal you are dragging the f*** outta ciara lol!
CIARA DANCES BETTER THAN AALIYAH AND AALIYAH SINGS BETTER THAN CIARA
@Last Boy On Earth, ofcourse no one can replace Aaliyah, but Ciara is so much better than beyonce!
Ciara has defined her OWN sound with songs like “Like A Boy” and “Basic Instinct”. The ones that would remind me of Aaliyah are “Ride” and maybe “Goodies” (but I wasn’t a fan of Goodies)
JUST TELLING THE TRUTH RATHER THE C STANS LIKE IT OR NOT
@Beyonce vs world “CIARA DANCES BETTER THAN AALIYAH AND AALIYAH SINGS BETTER THAN CIARA”
That’s the only thing that you said that makes sense the past 6 years! Where the f*** were you when everyone else went to college? Still in grade 2?
THESE BITHCES ARE DUMB AND FUNNY
Beyonce who lacks grammar is trying to get Cici fans to hate on Aaliyah and vice versa. Not going to work biatch!
JESUS-Z AND BEYUS
Cici = Babygirl 2010
im only commentin 2 make it an even 200 lol
I’m not a ciara fan, but i think she may be safe with this album,. i hope she can survive her next one. She is a good dancer and has a so so voice. her video’s keep her afloat. oh well i wish her luck. she has a good fan base but does she have enough fans to buy her album to keep her in the game. i think that she should be promoting like crazy. Not just these boring radio interviews, that are just interest in if she is dating 50 cent. she should performing somewhere any where. stop all that shopping and start some strong promoting.
SMH he has a few points but not entirely!!! but don’t feel like getting into that right now maybe later
Maybe the reason why she failed last year is because of Dream’s producing. Even though Dream is actually logically correct with his statement, he is kind of sounding a bit ego-headed, especially for someone who didn’t sell much with his solo stuff last year as well. Dream’s sound is very playful, bit childish, and suited for popular music, but not to be taken seriously. The best song he produced was Rihanna’s “Hard.” I for one am getting a bit tired of everybody working with this guy like he is the next Terry & Jimmy Jam. All he is doing is dulling their sound down. His sound doesn’t compare, but I see he is attempting.
EVEN THE PERSON THAT IS WRITING ALL YOUR SONGS STILL THINK U A FLOP CICI….GET OUT OF KIM KARDASHIANS PURSE AND FIND A HIT…..
HAHAHA…Y AM I NOT SUPRISED….START SAVING YOUR COINS CI-ERROR
i like ciara…but i totally agreee with the dream….i honestly think she’ll still flop but the best of luck goes to her!
GLAD TO SEE THE QUEEN BEYONCE NAME HAS CAME UP YET AGAIN IN A POST ON WAY YOUR FAVE IS FLOPPING LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16x GRAMMYS
OVER 100 MILLION RECORDS SOLD BISHES
LMAO
The Dream never said Ciara “failed”, just that she should be bigger than she is. That’s okay, the best artists don’t need to be selling albums like they belong on the NYSE. Look at Mylie Cyrus, how many “real” hits has she had?
All he said was there is an “expectation” of where she should be in her career. I could care less if she hasn’t sold 65+ records or won (?) grammy’s.
She is only 24/25, she is still young and is on her FOURTH studio release. She doesn’t need to be a mega pop star for me to be a fan of her.
Ciara’s music is timeless. Like Aaliyah, her hits sound new whenever you hear them. Unlike the school girl who came from a group.
Then said, The-Dream ‘s career is also dead!
Besides, school girls will always be remembered for their hits with their groups. That is why T-Boz and Chilil never came out with albums and are heading back into the studio!
There you go!
BTW, how did her last album flop? It produced two top ten hits. its not her fault, the school girl copied her concept of having more than one cd with a split personality!
210 comments & counting… Ciara must be a pretty big importance for you ppl to say nasty things about her.
I’m still a fan of Ciara’s no matter what anybody says about her.
@bullfighter, u r speakin the truth i will always b a fan of cici and no one will eva change dat
lol pucci that was weird i didnt even c ur comment and we both said da same thing lol
cici jus performed ride at the birthday bash!!!!!!!!
this was so underhanded of him.
Now why would Dream say that. Even if she flops again, that doesnt mean Ciara is over for good. Just for that, if she does fail, we all know who to blame….. Dream. Dream just mad that hes flopping too, so he wants to bring somebody else down with him. Now, not saying what Dream says isnt truth about Ciara cause after all, Ciara after Evoloution era was looking at bigger and better things but that didnt work out at all. Ciara is not suppose to be floping this early esp around her 3rd or 4th album. Your 3rd album is suppose to show that your here to stay. I really do hope Ciara doesnt flop and go away for good. Up to this day, I still dont see why Fantasy Ride and Ride Floped. Its no different then what she has been doing from the jump.
N why is Bey fans always attacking someone who flops. Bey is going to flop very soon, esp if she dont change her lace front wig. The b**** is approching her 30s and s***. Her time coming. This is a new decade, Ciara is still young, and anything can happen. As for Bey, her time is over. They only give you 10 years in the music business. Exception to Mage, Janet N MiMi who made it 20-25yrs plus but we all know Bey is an amateur compare to those greats. Even Rhianna is going to sntach the cat back frm Bey. Rihanna is what, 23… She got long time before the game starts fronting on her.
LOL does he have the rights to say that! i sense potential conflict between the both of them. which is a good thing and i want it to happen because the dream sucks! like please he’s ruining ciara’s career with his s***** songs he gives ciara. wake up girl! the dream sucks! and he writes s*** ass songs for you! like seriously, ride???! it sucks to hell and it is not even ciara, its just the dream trying to make money out of ciara.
Hey Chris,
How is “Ride” flopping? Its already a top ten R and B hit. It’ll go up next week for sure. I don’t consider “Fantasy Ride” a flop. Its just that the school girl copied her concept by having two albums released at once with different personalities.
Cici’s “Fantasy Ride” was supposed to be a three album disc, each disc representing a different style of music. Blame her stupid label and all the leaks that happened and all of Jive’s attention to Britney and other useless artists.
Everyone knows album sales mean nothing these days. Ciara had two big hits off “Fantasy Ride”, much better than having one hit every seven years ( a la Monica, bless her heart, she is awesome though, love her better than Brandy at least).
The only way Ciara has flopped was when she tried to dance to Beyonce’s music. That was never going to work, because heck even Beyonce can’t even dance to it!
Cici’s Ride is the song of the summer, besides Drake (all of his stuff)…as previously mentioned. There is still time for Cici to work with Drake!
And why are people saying that Cici worked with Dream on all songs off “Fantasy Ride”? There were only one or two songs on there, you idiots!
I think people are taking what the Dream said out of context. He didn’t say she’ll flop, or has flopped, but basically said her career has stalled.
Who cares! Even if she never has a hit, she has produced more hits than any of us on here bitching! That and she has come up with so much more original, s***, mature music than that school girl ever has.
Cici knows her voice very well, just like Aaliyah did, and does not need to SCREAM to be heard, like that school girl who is best known for being a group called Destiny’s Child.
he sounds more bitter than anything.he’s a flop so he’s literally trying to spread it.
I felt Kelly Rowland’s name would make a trip to this post , so….HERE AM I. All I have to say is September 21st. Thanks, and continue haters!!!!
This cat can’t even COVER “One in a million” by Aaliyah right! It was complete trash and disappointing. So if the album flops, own up to the fact it will be YOUR fault DREAM, because you wrote the piece of s***.
its gonna flop.
sorry.
Music these days requires difernciation and substance. i just dont get why these executives continue to let this duo sit on these albums and do EVERY SINGLE SONG! it never works!
its not gonna work. When you have ciara who is soooo on the edge right now, u cant let one so-so producer pioneer a whole album. SMH.
First of all, I disagree w/those who say Ciara is lazy or doesn’t want it bad. I think she has drive & determination. If she could have tv appearances right now I’m sure she would. I think that’s a management issue or is out of her hands. She’ll probably have appearances the week of her album release. BUT, it’s just hard to be worried about her career when there are so many more talented vocalists who are struggling or barely getting by like Chrisette Michelle, Erykah Badu, Angie Stone, Melanie Fiona, etc. No one wants Ciara to SCREAM. That’s the first excuse her defenders use. Some people will accuse singers like Beyonce, Jennifer Hudson, or Christina Aguilera of only being able to scream when the truth is they can SING circles around limited vocalists like Ciara, even when they are singing in a lower, softer tone. For example, they have the ability to hold notes & Ciara can’t do that. Although she has drive, her vocal ability is just too limited in my opinion. So, I would not miss her.
ain’t karma a b****? HAHHAHA!!!!! you’re OVER HEara. OVERRRRRRRRRRR
Last chance for what exactly? Her career ended in 07
@0beloved
LMAO!!!!!!! As always your comment give me my life!! <3 lmao
Anne, if you prefer screaming ladies vs the hotter sexier voices of Aaliyah, Ciara, and Britney than that’s your opinion. Christina Agerlirea whatever her face is such a boring singer compared to Britney.
If they have such powerful voices, what they lack is artistery. At least Mariah can out scream Beyonce/Christina ANYDAY, and she can “try” to match the s***/subtleness of Aaliyah/Janet/Ciara.
Don’t even try to make it seem like screaming is singing. It sounds so bad. Which songs have done well where Beyonce screams? Single ladies was a low pitched nightmare!
Gucchi, who are talking about Ashanti? No, sorry to tell you but she’s coming out with a new album too! Going to blow off that school girl who used to be in DC!
See it is already happening!! Singers like Ciara are starting to fade away, talent is coming back, and when the people have spoken, they lay it in stone! Her being able to dance is only a fraction of what true talent is! For even you young ass kids to even label her the Aaliyah of “YOUR” generation, have no respect or knowledge of the game at all! Aaliyah was an embodied entertainer, she had a sultry voice, her demeanor was impeccable!! Aaliyah had a signature brand! She was pretty, she could dance, and the most important thing is that Aaliyah had a very beautiful voice!!! As much as a sociopath, and narcissist the Dream is, he and her have one more change to make it work! The thing that is killing her career is her redundancy, same type of album, dance, talk nasty, tweak for a few singles!!! That is what makes her just boring. she is always wanting to stay with the same crunk, hood music! Well really though you can’t blame her, if that how you started, that is how she is going to finish! Another thing is that her music doesn’t have any message that talks about the world at large, it is always , how good my p**** taste, or how much I got, or how much it coast! That is getting old with folks now, times are to hard to continue to hear, an intake the same thing , over and over again!!! The Dreams needs to take his own words into consideration, when he can have the top album on the 200, 4 singles at number one, sell over 400,000 copies of his album, then talk to me!! Same for Ciara, she needs to grow as an artist and stop being so self-centered in her approach!
Side note!! I hear that “Morris Day and The Time ” are coming back out with a new cd! If these kats from the trowback have to return to the game, you know s*** is f***** up!!!
haters gonna talk smack till their lips fall off but i kno dat no matter wat any hater says its not gonna effect how much i like ciara.
Sorry boo! Ride was a HORRIBLE CHOICE for a first single. #65 on bilboard is NOTHING. Her stans/fans have deluded themselves for so long they can’t tell a flop when it stares them in the face. Come on sweetie how can you say a first single that peaks at #65 is so great for Ciara, who you stans also claim is somehow slaying. Even Dream said the song was shallow. Ciara has been unable to keep up with the times. For example Beyonce isn’t making electropop songs but she still KEEPS UP with the times by putting in the work and making good choices when it comes to promotion. It’s just sad to see that Ciara has failed to give me any interest in her new project even though I USE to be a fan. And the Dream is right….Ciara’s dumbass wanted to have him produce every song on the album so if she flops (which she will unless she comes out with a song that doesn’t suck, and a video of her actually dancing with choreo and not just booty popping) it’s her own fault. Unless Kim Kardashian buys 100k copies this album is going to fall flat on it’s face.
And girl get off ustream! Ciara Kardashian is 100% disappointment and to think I use to say she was the next Aaliyah. Honey please Ciara can’t hold a candle to Aaliyah
mr.727 hop off cici’s jock u sound like one of dem old ppl thats stuck in the 90s we in 2010. plus have u even heard any of cici songs from he previous albums there not all about s** so talk watchu kno
@Mr727, Aaliyah’s best album was “one in a million”, everything that you had said about Ciara, could be redirected at Aaliyah. What the Ciara haters are saying about her today, were the exact same things the dumb ass Brandy lovers said to attack Babygirl!
What growth has other female artists of our time shown? Beyonce sings about the same s*** every album, Rhianna and Britney is all about the production and writers and hype of their personal lives. With the exception of her current album, Alicia Keys only has two hits tops per album (but this album has been a flop compared to her past albums which had POP number ones and number ONE album).
Ciara is NOT Aaliyah, but she is the modern version of the hot, sultry, Urban lady of hip hop. Ciara’s music is timeless, not like the school girl former DC member.
Ciara like Aaliyah, never had an album that really blew up. Actually, Ciara’s first album outsold Aaliyah’s and produce TWO number hits. It took Aaliyah like 7 or so years to get a number hit out of Try Again.
Just stating the facts, even though I like Aaliyah more than Ciara, you have to give Cici props where props are due!
Shhhh… F*** it, the wait is over, Ill come out and save the game. Ciara dont worry, Ill snatch the wig off the Single H** B****, so you can finally get on top and battle me. Somebody has to do it!!!
And I’m sorry to break it to you stans…At one point I was just like you..but the truth is the truth honey! Ciara’s new project is only being checked for by her small urban audience. That isn’t a bad thing but you all act like white people don’t love urban music too! As was the case with her first two albums when she sold so well. The reason she is fading is because he music has started to suck. Evolution was her best album and if you re-watch those videos she was dancing her ass off for every song! EVERYWHERE. Now all she does it prance on youtube and stare at LaLa and Kim Kardashian for some direction. At this point sweetie if Kim Kardashian dropped an album it would sell more than Ciara’s tenfold.
I’m sorry but let’s be honest girls
Wasn’t Ciara also working with gucci mane, bangladesh and darkchild for this album?
Who cares about sales Guchi, Aaliyah never really sold albums and she is still recognized as being the Princess or R and B.
Sales = doesn’t mean anything!
@XRAWRX, yes Ciara is working with those artists and is slated to work with two other mystery producers! The album is dropping in August!
and tricky xrawrx
im excited bullfighter arent u? cant wait 4 her cd 2 drop!!!!!!!!!
Its so funny to have the school girl in this conversation, as Rhianna is replacing her anyways.
1. Aaliyah
2. Ciara
3, Keri Hilson
4. Alicia Keys
5. Monica
6. Ashanti
7. Beyonce
8. Mya
9. Rhianna
10. Brandy
There you go, all the ladies rated!
I am excited for Cici’s album! Like I said, still time for her to work with Drake! Hottest jam of the year!
@Bullfighter808
Unfortunately honey sales mean relevancy in today’s time. And i’m not just talking about sales i’m talking about Ciara’s inability to make good music after the Evolution Era. Please sit that ass down honey. Fantasy Ride flopped because it was a hot ass mess give or 1 or 2 songs. And if her only real talent is as a dancer why the hell is the girl not dancing her ass off everywhere like she used too? Can someone please hand this girl Laurianne Gibson’s number. Ride was a horrible song that is getting play off of the video alone. Sorry boo. I agree with everyone else this b**** is trying to flop on purpose.
gushi, what are you even talking about? such a baby trying to be an adult, hahaha LMAO.
@Bullfighter808
No this fool did not just put Ciara above Beyonce, Brandy, Rihanna, AND Alicia Keys? Girl what planet are you on. Ciara’s career looks like spoiled milk these days. And Scary Hilson replaced Ciara please get it right.
Lets face it, don’t hate on Ciara because Rhianna is replacing your scream at all costs school girl who is better known for her DC hits.
Bullfighter808, I guess Beyonce was screaming “At Last” when she was SINGING for the first couples first dance, or when she performs her other Grammy award winning songs like “Halo” or “Irreplaceable.” Or what about her Grammy award winning duet w/ Luther Vandross, “The Closer I Get To You” or Grammy nominated “Once In A Lifetme” on the Cadillac Records soundtrack. I guess she was screaming when she lent her beautiful vocals to remix Justin Timberlakes “Until the End of Time.” I know you all are afraid for Ciara but no need to attack a REAL SINGER like Beyonce when you obviously have not really listened to her sing.
dats not true gucci drakes album isnt doin well rite now n hee is very relevant
Brandy was the queen of lame. Worst than the school girl who can only scream.
what? I never even heard of those songs that you mentioned the school girl sang? You must have her confused with Rhianna, who has taken her place since 07.
Anne, its obvious who likes the school girl and who hates Cici, mainly women.
As I said earlier, the school girl only sings mainly for the ladies, whereas Cici has mass appeal of both guys and girls.
bullfighter ur a dude?
Okay boo I’m done with you delusional stans. XTINA sold 100k with a single that peaked at 23 but you have convinced yourself that Ciara is going to pull in huge numbers with a quarter of the talent (IF THAT) and a single that peaked at #65? BOOOOOO Ciara stans BOOOOOO!
Please explain why Keri’s debut album sold more than Ciara’s 3rd album? Really girl who is ciara slaying? The only wig ciara is snatching off is her own when Kim K calls her to make her breakfast and message her feet.
Anne, I think I know why you like Rhianna and Justin’s “end of time”, it is a girly track…..
whereas the one with Cici, was more of club anthem…love, s** and magic….. like what guy doesn’t want his face licked by Ciara! HOT!
@bjksolo
Drake’s album isn’t doing well? OMG sweeetie are you serious? Drake is BRAND NEW ARTIST who made more money off of a mixtape than Ciara made with her third studio album. His album is debut with sales of 400k which is the third highest sales of year! And you’re sitting here telling me he’s not doing well? What planet are you ciara stans on I need to know!
LMFAO BULLFIGHTER UR HILARIOUS
AS WELL AS EXPECTED GUCCI RELAX URSELF GIRLIE
Bullfighter808
You sound very naive. Beyonce has more fans than Ciara PERIOD, male or female. Heck you coud probably onlly count her male fans and they would outweigh Ciara’s fans alone. I don’t hate Ciara, I just have higher standards for vocal ability now that I have matured. Maybe that’s why Ciara still has some male fans, they are too busy looking at her to actually LISTEN and notice that she can’t really sing that well.
Lets stop hating on Cici, when you all know why the real reason you’re all angry. Its because Rhianna has stolen the spotlight from the school girl who just screams and sings girl anthems. Lame.
And his entire album was leaked two weeks in advance! And he is going to sell more copies of his album in one week than Ciara’s last album has sold TO THIS DAY!
Ciara stans you are some of the biggest fools I’ve ever been unfortunate enough to waste my retina’s on. Come on girl get those facts straight.
And yes i know I’m making typos like hell but honey I just had to get out how dumb you all are.
I don’t understand why you are all saying that “ride” has peaked, when the song is still new and to some markets, not even released to pop radio!
didn’t you know some songs are only released to certain formats, “ride” wasn’t even released to pop radio, so its only charting based on its urban performance. Ride went top ten this week, a leap of ten spots.
no one cared that Alicia key’s singles tanked until the help of Jay Z that brought her back at number one!
And with the screaming school girl, her fans are mostly pop fans that like s*** like miley cyrus and justin beiber.
GUCCI U SOUND LIKE U HAVE ALOT OF HATE IN UR HATE 4 CICI…SO IMA ASK GOD 2 BLESS U AND HELP U GET OVA UR HATER WAYS LOL
No need to argue the numbers will speak volumes. When Ciara Kardashian debuts at number 194 with sales of 1.5k in the first week we will have to revisit this post and see what the stans have to say then sweetie.
Bullfighter808
I think you should go and check out the songs I named since you’ve never heard them before and THEN give your opinion. And no I am not mistaking Rihanna for Beyonce. I’d never make that mistake since I think Rihanna’s voice is harsh and annoying. I have little appreciation for Rihanna or Ciara. Again, I only appreciate REAL singers like Beyonce and others that I named in an earlier post.
You know what, the first thing I wanted to do when I heard “ride” was I really wanted to “ride” Ciara. Damn when I saw that video XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!
Anne, are you talking about that school girl again? Give it a rest, that song “girl” was so lame.
Rhianna will own the school day anyday in a singing contest!
HAHA BULLFIGHTER U NASTY LMAO JK JK
YEA NO DOUBT RHIANNA CUD SING IDK Y PPL HATE ON HER VOCAL ABILITY SO MUCH
hey gushui, xtina only sold 100, 000? lame, so I guess gaga has really figured it out, as well as Brit! LMAO. xtina sucks! not as bad as the school girl though.
See i am having a hard time controlling my words. Who the hell does the dream think he is????????? when he actually writes stuff for his album that contains substance other that being repetitive and singing distastefully out of tune, then he can talk about other artist. When he writes songs to the calaber of neyo and jermain dupre then he can talk. When his records are remembered among the elite and not forgotten like yesterday’s news, then he can talk. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TALK AND TELL ME WHO TOLD THE DREAM HE WAS THE *ISH?????????? BECAUSE HE IS REALLY FULL OF HIS SELF.
See, if you go on Allaccess, Ride wasn’t even released to pop radio, it was ONLY released to Urban and Rhythmic. So her “peak” at the hot 100 is based only on the urban/rhythmic chart performance, not bad! Considering that school girl gets her songs “released” to all formats possible, which only inflats her popularity. Blame Jive records for Cici’s so called “flop”. But, because she is an URBAN artist, her music isn’t really going to get released to pop radio anytime SOON. Same deal with Aaliyah when she was around vs Brandy. Aaliyah’s music usually was only released to urban whereas Brandy tried to capitalize and got released everywhere anyone could play her. LAME!
check out these stats: http://www.allaccess.com/urban/rate-the-music?format=U1&demo=M+18-34
Ride is at number 3 for the Male demo 18-34, proves my point, Ciara caters more to the guys!
With males 25-34, Cici is at number 2!
http://www.allaccess.com/urban/rate-the-music?format=U1&demo=M+25-34
Flop, I think not. That’s her core audience!
Her albums have been flopping because her music does not agree with what people like these days. That Rnb crap is so last generation.
Ciara get your producers to write you some electronic pop songs.
Or even better hire Dr luke or Max martin and you will save your career.
JANET>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C-ERROR
BEYONCE>>>>>>>>>>>C-ERROR
MARIAH>>>>>>>>>>>>>C-ERROR
RIHANNA>>>>>>>>>>>>C-ERROR
LADY GAGA>>>>>>>>>>C-ERROR
THERE IS MORE… SHALL I GO ON ? LOL
Wow just wow like always this post turn into a beyonce vs artist @bjksolo yes hon that bed song was lame i only liked the rimex with nina sky but that just my opinion i know alot of pepole liked it
you acting like Ciara is the first to have a flop album. you dont like her thats u. not every1 has a powerhouse voice eg Gwen, Fergie, Kesha,Ciara,Janet,Rihanna,Nelly F just to mention a few. I do think if Rihanna didnt have many #1s or a big album GGGB you all would be hating on her. i like Ri too . I do think what dream said was so not cool . you are working with someone i would think you would have the decency to try and hype things up even if u have yo own opinion. we cant all conclude that this is Ci’s last shot coz noone knows. If she flops this time she might get another shot.
I don’t get it, you’re her producer and u take her down like that ?!!! he is responsible of a LOT of flops during those last years, so this failed singer/failed producer should just shut the f*** up.
lmfao @ u guys mentioning Aaliyah NEWS FLASH ciara surpassed Aaliyah so stop talking about Aaliyah like she was the greatest cause she wasn’t i liked her but her voice was very average an her dance moves were too. aaliyah did not do enough in the music indurstry to be getting so much praise. now i have question if aaliyah didnt look the way she looked would she have been considerd the princess of rnb ? NAH i highly doubt it. also i may sound like a hater but im just stating facts i liked her alot but she was a average talent with good looks period.
@ Wow, Aaliyah’s first album sold 2x in the U.S. and her 2nd sold 3x (with 8x ww). Her 2 after her passing (“Aaliyah and “I care for you”) have sold 2.5 and 1.7 respectively (with 5 top 10 Hot 100’s). Ciara sold 4x with her first 2 combined, so how did she surpass Aaliyah? I do think Aaliyah’s voice was pleasant and she has had a few strong live shows(check out the performance at the Oscars). She didn’t own powerhouse vocals, but it was sweet and angelic. I think there’s valid reason for considering her as the princess of R&B. She deserved it!
Anyway, I like both ladies and I think Ciara is doing fine. She has a top 5 video and now a top 10 song(that I’m sure will see #1). I’m certain that the song would have done better on the pop charts if it was released there. We all know that this single is still growing and relatively new. Are ya’ll haters nervous?
Cici’s voice is 10x better the Rihanna’s and she out performs the Britney’s . The more I go on, I understand the hate actually… There’s alot left for this girl to conquer and she will!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cndA6YH6hHs DUDE JUST STRAIGHT WENT IN ON CIARA LOVED IT LMAO
LMFAO this sitee stays on ciaras d***! stfu the dream was just saying what everyone else is….hes not lying…
GOODIES- 2 MILLION U.S
EVOLUTION- 1 MILLION U.S
FANTASY RIDE- 193K U.S
^^^^ DEAD AT BILLBOARD CLOCKING THE TEA
You guys on all on crack. Sales mean nothing in these days. Everyone knows it. Its all about the hits, that’s why Britney knows she needs hit singles vs hit albums.
How many people remember Brit’s hits off her second album? That album sold so much more than her third and fourth combined and maybe even her fifth. But there were NO hits off that album.
But, off her third, fourth and fifth album, it gave her “S****”, “Toxic” and “Give me More”
F*** that b******!
Sales = NOTHING!
If you go sales, than Brandy is still the most successful b**** in the industry!
Oh great, I knew it was going to happen, the f*****’ Brandy lovers are on here bashing Aaliyah by trying to get Cici fans against the Aaliyah/Ciara fans.
Not going to work.
No other artist out there right now has the SAME style as Aaliyah. I proved my point that SALES meant s***, as Aaliyah NEVER had a blowout Album or NUMBER 1 HIT Single on Billboard HOT 100 until 7 years into her career with Try Again (and never had another).
But, EVERYONE in the hip hop industry knows how special, talented, and dope she was. Timbaland has never even replaced her. (keri hilson will never replace Aaliyah), which is probably why you’ll NEVER see a Timbaland/Ciara song together.
Enough, of this s***.
What are you thoughts on Keisha Chante? That b**** thinks SHE”S Aaliyah!
I must also add that Ciara had what Aaliyah had, which is a hot profile within your own core industry. Aaliyah had Timbaland, Missy, G etc etc who were connected to Nas, DMX, Jay Z ..
Look at how many songs Ciara is “featured” in, you don’t get featured in hip hop, unless you’re hot s***. Somehow Nicki Manj has become the hip hop lady shot s***, but after you fuckers here “u got me”, better think again.
Our Cici can have a career a la Drake and fuse hip hop with urban beats/singing.
A flop is relative.
So f*** y’all!
*STANDING OVATION* EVERYTHING @GUCCI SAID
I love Ciara, but you Cici stans need to spend less time talking about the Queen B and the incredible Aaliyah, and more time buying her records and supporting her.
Please remember that Ride is still only at #65 after WEEKS of release and a video. GET YOUR ARSES TO WORK!
AND CIARA THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF MANY PERFORMANCES OR ‘RIDE’. YOU NEED A HIT, AND I REALLY FEEL ‘RIDE” COULD BE IT. BUT STOP WASTING TIME PARTYING WITH KIM K AND LALA WHEN THAT’S THEIR JOB, NOT YOURS. YOU SHOULD BE OUT PROMOTING YOUR ISH, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT YET ON B AND RIH’S LEVEL, WHERE THEY CAN RELEASE A SONG WITH LITTLE TO NO PROMO AND STILL HAVE A TOP TEN HIT.
YOU NEED TO BE HITTING RADIO STATIONS, PERFORMING EVERYWHERE (AND YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE YOUR BEST TO GET A SLOT ON THE BET AWARDS) AND TRYING TO GET INTERVIEWS WITH THE FOLLOWING – JAY LENO, MO’NIQUE, DAVID LETTERMAN, JIMMY KIMMEL, GEORGE LOPEZ AND JIMMY FALLON.
GET YOUR A*** TO WORK AND QUIT PARTING. START LOOKING LIKE YOU CARE. CAUSE YOU ARE MORE TALENTED THAN MANY OF THE SUCCESSFUL PPL RIGHT NOW. YOU SHOULD BE ON TOP TOO.
@Tha Phoenix
I totally agree girl! <3
I’m over Ciara-she let Rihanna take over for the young adult black girls-she’s done. She needs to ‘ride’ her ass right on back to the ATL and find a NBA star to knock her up/marry her. Pull a LaLa/Khloe Kardashian/Keyshia Cole and get her a guaranteed check.
I know i sound harsh but I’m just frustrated with this girl’s lack of impact on the charts.
Unless Ride gets a release date for itunes, it won’t move passed 65, either that or Jive will need to release Ride to pop radio. Ride is basically getting airplay on Urban radio, and how many Urban radio stations are there?
She’s number #5 right now at urban.
Thus she is NOT flopping with her core audience b******!
I don’t agree with any the phoenix said, that’s just overexposure and a waste of time, especially when the album hasn’t dropped yet.
She will do all that stuff, WHEN it drops. Obviously you have no experience in the music industry or know anything about product management.
Who the f*** cares if Ciara is not on pop radio, she is an URBAN artist.
@Bullfighter808
Sweetie please shut the hell up! Urban audience what are you talking about. Are all of these rappers such as Drake, Lil’ Wayne, and others not URBAN? And notice how their s*** is still making huge moves on billboard sweetie! Pop radio doesn’t equal huge chart numbers…an urban artist can still appeal to the wider audience if their songs dont suck. Unfortunately Ride is just not that good of a song….so if Ci-error is peaking at #65 that is a flop! Sorry honey but she was an urban artist when she had other hits like Promise, Like a Boy, Get Up, Goodies, Oh, 1,2 step was she not? So please stop making excuses honey you sound like a dumbass.
gushi, obviously you don’t know anything about the music industry. in order for Cici to get pop/mainstream play, the single needs to be officially released to radio. check out the allaccess website, Ciara was NEVER added to pop/mainstream radio, the bulk of billboard’s hot 100.
Promise and like a boy were Urban hits, not pop hits dumb ass! goodies, get up and 1, 2 step were released not only as singles, but to pop and mainstream radio.
so before you talk like you know anything, do some research you uneducated piece of s***!
Anyways, its already established that Cici did not flop as “Ride” is already at number 5 on the Urban chart, so f*** off b****!
I’m glad Cici isn’t mainstream, that way she’ll still be making hot s*** like this. Obviously most of her fans are male, as even the allacess link proved that the demo URBAN 25-35 she’s number 2! That’s a hit with her core audience.
F***, this live performance is tight s*** and she should have done it with even less clothing!
Look how hot she looks here and if this was the school girl singing, she’d be out of breath mid way, unlike Cici.
If you look at the charts on allaccess, she’s already at number 2 for the URBAN male 25-35 demo, her core audience! Obviously, MOST of her fans are male, so she is NOT flopping there.
Why would I want Ciara to do a school girl and do girl anthems? Just to sell records? Lame.
Bring on more “ride” songs!
I think somebody else better help produce her next album cuss with Dream there, shes not going no where. Yeah, Dream has a point, but that just means hes not gonna even try to make the next album better. I just hope she’s not over.
@Bullfighter808
Promise and Like a boy were urban hits that broke the top 20 on bilboard. My point exactly you raggedy b****. You’re saying that Ride is not a hit because it’s only urban, but then you contradict yourself by admitting that she has had other urban appealing songs that were still well received..
Hang it up sweetie! Now excuse me while I look for Ride in the top 50 on billoard….a song that was released MONTHS ago with a video and everything. Add to the fact that it’s her FIRST SINGLE for a new album! NOPE NOTHING BOO!
Even though fantasy ride flopped it still produced a single with the top 10 and it still flopped and you think Flop Instinct is going to slay with a single at #65??? No honey
The question is How many chances does Dream think he really has !?!?!? I’m not Ciara’s biggest fan, but I have alot more respect and hope for her as an Artist than The Dream’s no Stage Presence, Non-Singing Unattractive ass!!!! #thatisall
gushi, what are you talking about, like a boy and promise were both released as cd singles, obviously that helped both of them chart well. duh.
dumb b****! do your research before you talk!
Dream and Tricky are co-executive producers, along with Ciara, for the album… it doesn’t mean they are producing EVERY song! she’s working with other producers too!
Just like the next person, I’m rooting hard for Ci this time around, but it’s very frustrating that she’s basically doing NOTHING to promote the new album so far. There must be something going on within her label because she is NOT lazy. Ppl need to stop saying that, she’s a VERY hard worker- she managed to get herself a record deal at the age of 15!
“Ride” is far from a flop but it cant make much of an impact of mainstream charts without a performance and any POP radio spins.
ALSO
smh @ rihanna stans. you ppl talk bad about Perez Hilton when he disses your favorite but y’all are using his website to measure Ciara’s mainstream popularity?? Are you serious? GTFOH! There’s nothing but ignorant white teenagers on there!
@right round
I agree with your second comment because Perez Hilton isn’t s***. I’ve seen people step in s*** on the street and that’s still more interesting than his half baked lame website propoganda. But i think people were getting at the fact that her fan base is really not that big. Which is true.
gushi, obviously you still don’t know what you’re talking about! Promise and like a boy were released as cd singles, whereas “ride” has not even been released yet! so what are you talking about?
promise and like a boy were only released to urban radio, so again, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
“ride” didn’t flop to her core audience, which is male 25-35, its at number 2 this week. Its a hit.
“Ride” is at #9 this week on billboard r and b/hip hop, so that proves that its a hit!
So there you go dumb ass! How did it flop, when she got yet another top ten single!
Would you consider Monica’s “Everything to Me” a flop? It only peaked at #44 on POP/Hot 100, whereas spent 7 weeks at #1 on R and B/Hip hop. Obviously it was a HIT, even though it took her 7 years to get there!
So, again, you’ve just be proven wrong!
@Bullfighter808
Sweetie we all know you’re lame. You know damn well i’m talking about the Billboard hot 100 that accommodated her hit singles 1,2 step, goodies, oh, like a boy, promise and get up. Ride is no where near the success of those songs, and a position of number 9 on the r&b chart will NOT get it there. This is the reason this girl is going to flop because he dim wit fans don’t know a flop when they see it. If it looks like a flop, sings like a flop, and acts like a flop it’s usually a flop. Sorry to break the news boo but Ride is a flop.
We’ll see when those numbers come out boo. I’m done with you. Keep living in Lala land.
@GUCCI – APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE
And @Bullfighter – sweetie, I know EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Ciara NEEDS to be overexposed right now, because it has been OVER A MONTH and a video has been released and ‘Ride’ STILL hasn’t gone top 50. Having radio interviews, interviews with highly rated talk shows etc will give her the exposure she needs. She NEEDS to be everywhere right now, PLAYED everywhere right now, and if you go back and read my comments, I actually want what’s best for her. I have a lot of love for Cici and I am tired of seeing her songs fail on the BB100 – she could be HUGE, she just needs to step up her game and get her a*** doing promo, because that is how she will succeed.
And Ci stans need to stop spending their time trying to defend her and concentrate on requesting her songs and buying them. Because Basic Instinct MUST not be another Fantasy Ride.
@Right Round
‘“Ride” is far from a flop but it cant make much of an impact of mainstream charts without a performance and any POP radio spins’
Complete cosign. And yes, she works hard – but she needs to stop all the partying and get to work. When Gaga, B and Rih are working, they’re WORKING not socialising all the time.
And, yes Cici was signed at 15 – but for a PUBLISHING deal; still a great thing, but different to a recording contract.
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Listen man (I do say that lightly), LEAVE CiCi alone! Because she is not sleeping with Jay-Z, which you seem to have to do these days in order for the ILLUMINITI Controlled music industry/media to let your songs and videos play, does not mean Ciara is a flop or that her career is over! I am so sick of ppl predicting doom and gloom on everyone. STFU!!!
LET ARTISTS BE DAMN U AND LET THE FANS ENJOY ALL TYPES & FORMS OF MUSIC!
@STFUDude!
Oh and just to show how dumb you illuminati fanatics are, the Dream wrote Umbrella, which they said was oh so evil, and he is currently writing Ciara’s entire album. But i’m guessing the album is just heavenly isn’t it? You c**** don’t even see a double standard when it stares you in the face. You make no sense so I’ll need you all to take seat in the trash.
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this lame SOB is mad because he thinks Ciara is his private little money machine, even if he doesnt do his job. if she fail it is because of him. she needs to get away from these damn leeches dreaming of a lady gaga to get them money to spend on spanish hos. he’s the damn failure. cici will be fine with the right label and producer.
@gucci
U R A DUMB SOB. RIDE HAS MORE THAN 70 MILLION VIEWS ON VEVO.COM MOST TV SHOWS DONT GENERATE THAT KIND OF AUDIENCE U PIECE OF STUPID GARBAGE
@tha phoenix
U KNOW EVERY DAMN THING ABOUT CICI. IF SHE A FLOP WHY U STALKING U LOW LIFE SOB?
@THA PHOENIX
U KISS OUR AZZES. CICI WILL HAVE A CAREER WITH OR WITHOUT YOUR SORRY AZZES. HER CHANCES R BETTER WITHOUT U. I’M PRAYING YOUR SORRY A** DROP HER, SO THAT WHEN YOUR SORRY A** DOOR CLOSES, THE RIGHT ONE WILL OPEN.
gushi you’re lame as s***, you obviously don’t know anything!
too bad your music career didn’t take off like Cici’s. hahhahaha, I can imagine your pathetic performance on idol from a previous season! LMAO.
you’ll never have the same success as Cici’s hits, even if she’ll never get another hit, she’ll still have more fame than you’ll ever have b****!
So the dirty little Dream is producing for Rihanna and ciara???? These dumb american negroes who R pushing INFerior foreign entertainers on the American public need to be shut down. Now I know why this little cowardly SOB is downplaying Ciara. Inferior caribbean rihanna cant compete with American Ciara on any level, and African Akon is out to hate on all of America by destroying our best artist. It’s very clear. African corruption is rearing its ugly head in America. Ciara needs to be with a record company that is not biased against americans, and get away from these fools.
@U DO DO IS STALKING CIARA
What the HELL are you talking about? Did you even READ the part I wrote about having loved Ci for YEARS? And about only having her best interests at heart? Where did I insult her or state anything that wasn’t a fact, and things that you yourself don’t know deep down?
It was all structured, well thought out advice, that makes a hell of a lot of sense.
And a lot more than your reply to me did.
@THA PHOENIX
WHAT THE HELL DO U KNOW ABOUT NETWORKING AND ENTERTAINMENT U DARN LOSER. TRYING TO P*** ON CICI AND CALL ING IT RAIN, DOES NOT A FRIEND MAKE. IT IS CALLED NICE/NASTY AND U THINK IT GIVES U CREDIBILITY. BUT IT ONLY SHOWS YOU’RE DESPERATE TO HATE UNDERCOVER U DAMN LOSER.
WHEN SHE IS TWEETING, USTREAMING SHE IS WORKING. IF U KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE INTERNET U WOULD KNOW THAT INTERNET IS TAKING OVER TV IN TERMS OF VIEWING AND INFORMATION. VIEWS EQUAL SALES AND ADVERTISING DOLLARS.
MOVIE STARS DONT SELL RECORDS. THEY SELL VIEWS. ASK MILLIONAIRE DENZEL IF U DONT KNOW.
CIARA IS A MAJOR HIT ON VEVO.COM
CIARA HAS MORE THAN 70 MILLION VIEWS ON VEVO.COM
CIARA IS IN THE TOP 10 ON THE CHARTS INSPITE OF THESE A** HOLES NOT GIVING HER PROMOTION
CIARA IS ON FUSE NETWORK
CIARA IS ON MTV
CIARA IS ON MUSIC ON DEMAND
SOME DIRTY BLACK A-HOLES SECRETLY ROOTING FOR THAT DAMN NO SINGING, NO TALENT, NO DANCING RIHANNA R TRYING TO STOP HER, BUT IT WONT WORK, BECAUSE SHE IS A TALENTED, HARD WORKING, DETERMINED SEXIEST WOMAN ON THE PLANET.
ciara’s album will definitely flop. she’s having an identity crisis and i think people sense that. she seems uncertain of herself with a made-up personality. no one believes she’s the person she projects herself to be. hollywood made her over because of her obvious talent & potential – but they gave her the full treatment before she or her fans were ready. no you have someone that ppl can’t really identify with and won’t support with their dollars.
Wow that remix was tight!
@MISSY
SINCE WHEN DID PSYCHIATRIST WASTE ALL THEIR TIME MAKING PREDICTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE THEY DONT KNOW! LOL LOL LOL YOU’RE THE BIGGEST DAMN JOKE. GET A LIFE U STUPID MUTHA SUCKA.
CIARA IS A MAJOR HIT ON VEVO.COM
CIARA HAS MORE THAN 70 MILLION VIEWS ON VEVO.COM
CIARA IS IN THE TOP 10 ON THE CHARTS INSPITE OF THESE A** HOLES NOT GIVING HER PROMOTION
CIARA IS ON FUSE NETWORK
CIARA IS ON MTV
CIARA IS ON MUSIC ON DEMAND
@U DO DO IS STALKING CIARA
Why don’t you spend less time trying to sound clever, even when you KNOW I am making perfect sense…
Where have I insulted her or stated anything that wasn’t a fact?
Oh, OK?
But, I will be returning here with an ‘I told you so’ if Basic Instinct flops because she didn’t promote a hell of a lot better than she’s doing now.
Oh, and BTW, Ustream cannot be considered promotion unless a good few hundred thousand or million ppl are watching. Like they would be those talk shows I mentioned, or listening to the radio.
Video views will NOT translate into album sales if she and her label don’t get it together. Mark my words.
P.S. This is why I refuse to argue with the stupid. It is an insult to my intelligence and therefore an obvious mistake. Hence, I will NOT be returning to this post. Feel free to post another 4 to 5 more CAPS LOCKS dominated replies to me.
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Why are there so many imitations of our girl Cici. Everyone knows the stupid school girl can’t dance, yet she is teaching her even more boring sister Keily how to dance in her new video.
My image of Beyonce’s last song (which royally flopped by the way), is her smoking through her nostrils. HOT, not LMAO!
When are the stupid freaks that like that school drop, just leave this forum and realize that Cici is not the one to hate. Its that stupid b**** Beyonce!
I mean seriously, when was the last non-girl anthem that Beyonce had? Bootylicious? Even that one was a girl anthem. Oh wait…. that was when she was still with DC, LMAO.
i GUESS SHE HAS NO OTHER HITS THAN!
This dude seems to be quite arrogant and stupid as *ell. How could any chick marry him????
bullfighter is the dumbest most delusional commenter on here.
beyonce made history by winning 6 grammy’s in one night. no female artist in history has ever done that.
when will your fave female artists do it?
so sit down because you look so stupid and delusional. queen bey ain’t going been running it since 1998.
anyway ciara just need to go back to her goodies days. this ‘ride’ stuff ain’t gonna cut it.
Beyonce is boring by reusing the same tired formula, it will only work for ladies. The day she begins singing other topics, other than girl anthems, than we can move on!
Rhianna has replaced Beyonce anyways, and she’s like how many years younger 8?
Ciara will never win that many awards because she is a pure URBAN artist, just like how Mary J Blige will never win that many awards either because she’s in hip hop.
Beyonce was able to get six because she had CROSSED over!