Justin Timberlake has developed quite the knack for exceeding expectations.
Dominating headlines in the last week by way of sales predictions generated by new album ‘The 20/20 Experience’, the ‘Black Snake Moan‘ actor is set to be the center of all attention next week then these sales finally roll through.
Sales, that are now predicted to be closer to the 900,000 units sold spot.
Good news after the jump…
Set to swipe the highest selling debut week spot from Mumford And Son’s ‘Babel (621,000 units)’, ’20/20′ is now on course to move between 850,000- 900,000 copies, according to our friends over at Hits Daily Double.
In doing so, he will nab the fifth highest debut digits of the decade and give SONY Music their fourth record breaking first week number since 2010, no doubt marking a proud moment for the thriving label.
Hits Daily Double’s predictions for the forthcoming chart week:
Justin Timberlake (RCA) 850-900k
Bruno Mars (Atlantic) 37-42k
Luke Bryan (Capitol Nashville) 35-40k
*Kacey Musgraves (Mercury Nashville) 35-40k
Bon Jovi (Island/IDJ) 32-37k
P!nk (RCA) 29-33k
*Les Miserables (Republic) 25-28k
Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 24-27k
Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 24-27k
Imagine Dragons (Interscope) 24-27k
David Bowie (Columbia) 21-24k
Now 45 (Capitol) 21-24k
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis (Macklemore) 19-22k
Fun. (Atlantic) 19-22k
Florida Georgia Line (Big Machine/Republic Nashville) 18-21k
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Race card in 3, 2, 1…..
u hunky
It’s the truth tho, sad but so true.
It’s definitely the truth. If Usher came out with that Suit and Tie s*** we would never hear from him again. Same thing with Adele. If she was a fat black b**** singing rolling in the deep she would’ve sold 50,000 records.
yess indeed.
@S****** you get it very wrong my dear and let’ be clear and honest. There’s a problem of race when it comes to sales and that’s a fact especially for white people making black music .i saw people talking about quality bla bla but the mater of the fact is how could you explain that usher make looking for myself and sell 125k with a better voice and better songs and JT who makes an album with only 2 OR 3 good songs sell 800K the first week? it means the race has a big role to play and i think that blak people making music are boycotted but when white artist do blk music they sell especially since those late years don’t be a fool and be honest with yourself it’s the truth and it’s sad. it doesn’t mean JT is talentless or whatever but it’s a sad reality so don’t do that
See it’s ignorant b****** like you that the “race card” exist. RnB is black dominated genre. You mean to tell me that Justin Timberlake’s average ass music was able to get him over 700k sold while no other RnB artist ,with the exception of Beyonce, was able to sale over 200k?
Now, was it Justin Timberlake’s race alone that got him this feat-of course not (look at Robin Thicke)- but did it give him an advantage over his competition- yes the f*** it did. That advantage coupled with his hard work and clever marketing produced these sales. Trust, had any other RnB artist released the same catalogue as Justin, they wouldn’t have sold a 1/4th of these #’s, and that speaks volumes.
While it’s true that if a black artist put out this average swagger jackin’ s*** they wouldn’t sell anywhere near those numbers, Justin’s success this time around is due to three key factors:
1) Justin has a solid fan base that stuck with him since his N’Sync days.
2) Justin is in his 30’s now so he really can’t afford to be doing teeny bopper pop. This album gives the appearance of growth and maturity and the fans are eating it up.
3) It’s been a long time since his last album came out so people have been anticipating his return. Justin is benefiting from the pent up demand.
I predict he wont have any breakout hits with this album and his sales are just a flash in the pan. Within a few months no one will care and the people who bought his album wont even play it any more.
slaaaaay Babe!!!
The power of payola.
The non-power of bitterness…
GO JT!!!!
Ewwww speaking of squid how’s that hell hole you call a p**** doing these days? Word on the street is your c*** look like a corn dog.
Then put mustard on my p**** and eat it b****!
Well, lets see how he will fair in his second week of sales…
Anyway, these ‘rising’ first week sales are becoming tedious.
We have to remember folks, his “talent” and “perseverance/hard-work” has enabled him to see such gargantuan success. *Rolls Eyes*
Nevertheless, congrats J.T!!!
Usher fans, lol.
LMAO.
B**** please. Justin TimberFAKE fans though…
Have you bought the album? Do you like it?
Of course i do, do you mean UshFAKE since he is the one who changed his genre…….lol.
LOL.
Don’t be naive.
Yes, Usher could have stayed artistically credible, instead of selling out in favour of Pop commerce. But…
Black artists have always had to water down there music to achieve commercial success and appease white audiences sweetheart.
And no – Justin TimberFALSE.
😉
MMMM not…didn’t MJ is the 3 biggest music act of all times and he was BLACK, Justin is less fake than usher though, he could have make a Pop record but he didn’t, is not his fault that black artists are underrated.
True. But, babe, open your eyes…
But, M.J rose to prominence at a time when Black- roots music was still commercially viable and accepted – the 1970s.
But, logically speaking, would M.J have achieved the same amount of success if he were making JUST Soul music?
Look at ‘Off the Wall’ for instance – even he said himself that because it wasn’t “Pop” enough, it didn’t do nearly as well as when he went “Pop” with Thriller. And ‘Bad’ was straight up “Pop”.
It was the same with Whitney & Janet. By all means, they broke barriers, but there is NO way they would have been nearly as successful doing JUST Soul, Funk or R&B music back then.
But I know what u mean with Usher though…
And… LMAO.
I like J.T; overrated to GODS though.
xo
MJ, JT and WH are A class in music so what’s the problem, not all white artists reach that kind of status that those three have so let’s not.
LOL.
You know what, you’re gonna defend J.T to the Top. lol.
Anyway, f*** both J.T & USHER – it’s all about 1 Direction & Justin Bieber > The Prince of Pop.
HAHAHA.
Still love u…
Let’s not talk about those girls.
Why not?
We all know 1 Direction are the new Beatles and J.B is the new J.T>>>
🙂 🙂 ::
Please!!!!, don’t do this, i hate those girls.
LOL.
Okay…
What about ‘Ed Sheeran’; he’s pretty cool. Do you like him?
And OMG, I just bought David Bowie’s new album – f****** amazing. Ugh >>> That should’ve been #1.
Who’s that?…btw i agree with Bowie’s new album, perfect.
@jared ‘rolls eyes’ omg u got black swag! I like u!
Wowza, amazing. His coming for Taylor’s wig. Hopefully the mainstream RnB acts take notes. Usher, Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Miguel, Frank Ocean, Neyo….etc all have the same look, sound the same, sing about the same thing and are still releasing 90s style RnB.
Hopefully this encourages the much needed edgy, daring and evolving RnB and not 90s RnB. The women are doing it, why can’t the men. How is Bruno Mars slaying easily? Because his music is AMAZING and sounds different from the other RnB which is stuck in the 90s.
Rap music has evolved a lot and that’s why it’s still doing great, RnB needs to get moving and hopefully JT has finally got thw wheel moving. You don’t have to reinvent the wheel, just make the wheel better.
Congrats JT, I hated this album but I still respect your swag.
Blah-Blah-Blah…that was a lot of words that said nothing. Bruno Mars isn’t “R&B,” so why you even brought him up is beyond me. And didn’t his album open with less than 200k sold? “Slaying,” my foot. JT is going to topple his total sales by week #2. Bruno is like so many other corny POP stars. They sell SINGLES at $1.29. Like Adele, JT is actually selling whole ALBUMS…and not at a discounted $1.99 or less.
You tried.
I can understand Adele but ……JT girl have several _/
Congrats JT, but had this been Usher, do you think he would have the same predictions.
Can Robin Thicke even do Usher’s numbers though?
You obviously dont look at billboard daily. Usher sold a whopping 1.1 million in one week of ‘Confessions’ album. Do your research before you start bringing race into the topics. JT album is a classic. ALl songs produced by TIMBALAND…and if you did not know…Timbaland is black. I hate hearing all these race s***.
I’m speaking of now 2013….What race card did I pull? I just asked a simple question. GET YA LIFE HUN.
That’s Justin for y’all , i got my two copies. His promotion for this project was amazing and these are really good for an album that had already leaked.
1)Match Usher’s first week … check
2)Match Usher’s 20 million ww sales
3)Crown JT as the New Prince(or King even) of Pop (by Jan 2014)
4)Boost JT’s solo career sales to 100 million
… Don’t believe me, just watch!
*Usher’s Confessions album stats is what I’m referencing…
Why are you so pressed?….go to support Usher and Janet.
Trust me, I’m far from pressed. I’m not that much of a fan of Usher’s so you don’t have to steer me. I would say that I like Usher’s music just as much as I do JT’s. Still, it has nothing to do with my opinions (which isn’t coming from an emotional place). It’s just simple observation. Besides, if I’d had to choose I’d pick being pressed over delusional any day (if you want to ignore certain factors, you have every right to, but you would actually be the latter).
Sales doesn’t make an artist better than others, don’t worry about that, honestly i could care less about how many records has my fav. sold (Madonna), i don’t care at all, what i care about her is her artistry and her performances, it has always been about the music for me, nothign else. The same applies to JT.
Yes, making great music takes precedence over everything (sales, awards, critical acclaim). It still doesn’t mean that you should sit back and be fine with the unfair conditions taking place in the industry. I’m not trying to bash JT, I’m simply speaking on how certain artists have privileges that others do not get. It’s great that you bring up having artistic merit at the end of the day to back your case, but I’ve seen you gloat about Madonna’s milestones way too often to find this convincing today. Everyone wants their favs to at least have a fair shot! That’s all it’s about.
I think sales only defines the success of an artist, i really don’t care, honestly i only mention sales when i see kids going crazy for their favs. having 100 million records sold, 22 million albums, lol the shade.
Lol! Funny guy…
Don’t forget the 17 Grammy’s, decade artists title & …
I won’t really go there because that’s just a distraction! 🙂
Oh wait … you mean (her)! Ignore my last comment!
Now you get it, pack your bags and leave, lol.
Lol …*Hailing a cab*
No matter which artist you gay ass boys come on here arguing, hating ass f***, get a life!
Look when are we gonna get the ACTUAL sales? Im tired of reading this s*it everyday about sales projections increasing
I think S****** BLONDE is about to go in over JT….Sorry babe JT is good but USHER is better IMO.
What b****, in my head JT is better at everything, it’s a matter of taste IMO, I still love you though.
Yass I knew I would get you with this(don’t fall for my trap)….. I love both of them em
I should have known you were using me, i feel like a puppet, lol.
Usher Net Worth – $140 million
Justin Timberlake Net Worth – $70 million
Hmmm!! Enough said!
I love Justin been following him like forever. I have his posters in my room. He’s cute 🙂
Usher is great. Its just that he is lost. He didn’t stay to his roots, he wanted commercial success. Look now? Can’t even sell platinum. I do hold him responsible for everything
do NOT bring Michael J into this argument with Usher & JT. The truth is, music is NOT the same as before; if it is, fans do NOT support like they used to, so for blacks they do have to switch it up a bit, b/c white people support waaaay mroe than blacks (TRUTH); regardless all of USher’s albums debut @ no.1, so its not a loss, JT will prob break platinum his 1st week & u know what, that is good, I like both artists, so i support both, BUT truth is, white people support the helllll outta people they love: ADELE; LIL WAYNE; TAYLOR SWIFT; EMINEM; JUSTIN BEIBER; JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE! (who I like them all but hey, aint too many black folks bought those albums) I am black btw-;)
Damn! JT isn’t playing! U betta SERVE SOME SLAYAGE TO THE HATERS lmao. And lmao U mean to tell me 20/20 has already outsold Unaflop already lmfao. No platnuim plaque for Unaflop. #Seeth C****
When will beyonce?
When will CiCi?
Usher’s been reduced to judging on a reality show. How embarrassing to sit on a panel and help groom your potential replacement. That’s like teaching someone whose whose gonna shoot you how to aim the gun.
I hate agreeing with S****** Blond, because he’s trash, but yeah. Instead of bitching about JT’s sales, which he earned through a heavy and effective regimen of promotion that’s paying off, why not go buy Usher’s album? Bully, bully for 10 year old Confessions for selling that much. Looking 4 Myself is thirsty though. How about instead of coming to a blog to b**** and complain, you throw it a buck or two. Nah, y’all don’t wanna do that, because you know it was garbage.
Don’t get mad at JT because Usher LOST fans, while he didn’t. Sort of ironic, though. Usher (who was once at the top of the game) sold out, threw his real fans under the bus to appeal to the Gaga crowd w/the cheesy dance-pop sound that’s everywhere today and still flopped harder than he ever has before. While JT didn’t compromise a thing, continued his mid 00s R&B sound (despite people acting like it was over) and came back harder than ever.
LMAO, i love you.
JT was flopping left and right at the box office with those p*** poor movies. I thought he was done with music and was on to acting, guess it didn’t workout. (Side note, FS/LS is my s***!!!!! Lol, to this day. That and Confessions.
yaaaas daddy you better slay the competition like its nothing…… and enough with the race s*** not our fault the blacks could never sell this much first week
When will your black favs???!
haahahaha that was racist ass s*** but the only comment that made me laugh!!!
well Lil Wanye has
You sound pressed and racist
Y do people say LOOKING for MYSELF is garbage? It has like 5 techno songs, the rest is R&B & a lil folk in there as well..it is a gooood album-I bought 3 copies, BUT anyway, CANT HATE ON JT, he did the damn things with his promo!
This prediction thing day by day is ridiculous. They should wait till the week is over and show the numbers. This way they over hype and overhype an album that seemed to do good the first day while an album that didn´t do that good on the first day starts to have bad press for no reason and it ends being a flop. Too many people base their opinion on hype. The worst thing is not that there are some bad albums with great sales, the worst thing is that some amazing albums flop cos of media negative attention
(not saying Justin´s album is bad, just talking in general)
It’s sad that we still have racist people in 2013? SMH get ya life.
Anyways Lil Wayne is black, he has those sales first week. You tried though
Anyway congrats to JT he deserve to be selling like this.
Lmao @Cici. Do u Ciara even exist? I mean, over the last past 5 years, I’ve been hearing she’s about to drop an album. And everytime I hear one song and the talk of her disappears to the depths of non existence. So really. Does she exist? Since JT brought s*** back, maybe he can bring Ci no more back. Oh hell No! JT is SLAYING like no other but even he can’t resue her ass. God can’t and he is Everything.
Lol … Cici actually had a top 10 with JT in 2009 (Love S** Magic). Just saying …
And that song was ONLY a hit because of JT. Ciara is WACK! Her music is uninspiring and juvenile. She hasn’t evolved as an ARTIST at all. Booty popping, back bends and dance routines aren’t gonna sell an album…
@MM exactly ty
Didn’t lady Gaga has the most overhyped album, she promoted every single in every possible show/award/event in the US and the rest of the world. “Born this Way” was the most promoted album in the History of Music, she uses every possible trick to sell that album (99 Reductive cents) and still flopped and in case you don’t remember who was this chick, SHE’S WHITE so RACE CARD my ASS.
Not a fan of Gaga’s at all….BUT she flopped? 0.0 didn’t she sell over a million in the first week?
Still flopped if you considered this was supposed to be the album of the decade, she should have sold 20 million with that record, not to mention the 99 cents and that she is at her peak.
I see…..
I’m not a Gaga fan AT ALL. She’s too pretentious and honestly tries too hard for me…I liked her music when she first came out, but she lost my interest after that. Seems like people are over her gimmicks and attention whoring….
If Gaga flopped watch Justin Timberlake flop then too by that standard of yours. Cos Gaga is for damn sure bigger than Justin worldwide. This album won´t end selling more than Born This Way
I´m fine with both BTW and 20/20 doing big numbers cos both are good (not the best thing ever but you know). When it gets sad is when someone like Taylor Swift does it. That´s just all kinds of unreasonable
And people on this post are not even talking about the big promo-hype before the release week or during it, which is fine, but this prediction thing that can ruin amazing albums while keeping overhyping and overhyping others through the whole week
I was the first to say that this album won’t match the sales of FutureSex…this is more a US thing, ww people are more interesting in Dance-Pop music and that’s another reason why Lady Gaga’s Born this Way is considered a flop, that album is Dance-Pop + she’s a bigger star than Justin and still a new artist, Justin comeback after 7 years and this kind of sales are impressive, that’s huge.
I just think this is too much. The album is great, at least part of it, but not to the point it deserves to do 900,000 copies. 500,000 would have been amazing and more reasonable imo. Specially when I see many outstanding albums flopping everywhere
@JOHNVIDAL
Don’t worry about it honey, it would fell from heaven in the upcoming weeks, btw, if his fans buy the album then…hell he deserves it.
Ciara. Who? Girlfriend goodbyw 🙂
I don’t like the album at all.
I’m tired of seeing Usher’s name brought up on every article about Justin Timberlake. One has nothing to do with the other. Point blank: JT has a better, more effective team than Usher. Whose music you think is better, who you think is more talent or deserving, is conjecture and totally irrelevant. The bottom line is that JT played the hell out of his hand and is reaping the benefit. Usher and his team fumbled, made mistakes and were lazy, and as a result he saw poor numbers.
Sure, things like race play a factor — but guess what, the world isn’t more racist today than it was in 2000-2006, when Usher was outselling JT. And as far as black people not supporting their artist goes, that’s a bunch of bull too. Did all the black people who made it their business to buy My Way/8701/Confessions 10-15 years ago suddenly die off? I don’t think so. Because guess what, I have all three of those CDs, but don’t have Raymond vs. Raymond or Looking 4 Myself. Why, you ask? Because frankly I didn’t want them. Usher’s music isn’t as good as it used to be, IMO, and so he’s not compelling me to buy it anymore. It’s really that simple. I don’t want “Scream” or “Climax.” I’m totally disinterested in Usher’s attempts at R&B and Electro/Dance fusion; and as long as he continues to do that, I’ll continue to not buy his music. But, hey, it’s not just about me…maybe others could have appreciated it more, if he bothered to promote as hard as he used to. I think some of these veteran acts think that because they’ve paid their dues and made their mark that they shouldn’t have to break their backs promoting like they did while they were coming up.
Don’t get pissed at JT’s continuing success because Usher’s music has become unmotivating and because his team are acting like amateurs when it comes to promoting him. The same goes for all the acts who’re struggling in today’s market. You better lace up your boots, be prepared to work and hire a media shark with enough pull to barter, kiss ass, manipulate, and/or threaten on your behalf.
The whole race card is ridiculous when all the best selling artists apart from Taylor, pink, Justin, Adele and 1D are BLACK or brown Beyonce , Rihanna, Alicia, Nicki, Bruno ,Will.i.am, Jay Z, Drake and more the race card is a joke. Look at beyonce and Rihanna no other females are doing what they do.
BUT Bruno Mars isn’t black 0_0
Sales-wise, Rihanna, Nicki & Beyonce are pretty average compared to the other people you named.
Usher DID stick to his R&B roots with his follow-up album, “Here I Stand,” which didn’t do NEARLY as well as “Confessions” (sold 2 million+). That album was filled with mostly boring love music dedicated to his wife & kids…..and the fans were NOT here for it (later causing him to DIVORCE his wife smh). It was also slammed by the critics for being “too safe,” and “not innovative enough”. Soooooooooo what did yall expect him to do? He always stuck with his R&B roots, but added a trendy pop sound to it. It’s like he’s damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.
His next album “Raymond vs. Raymond” produced two of my fave Usher songs… “There Goes My Baby”(CLASSIC) and “OMG”…but that album ALSO underperformed (selling only 1.3 million).
Hopefully his next album will be more organic & classic Usher-esque. He’s one of the best male vocalists out there right now, so I’m here for it….
Well Here I Stand sold more than Looking 4 Myself. What did he get out of going the “trendy” route. That just made things worse. HIS underperformed because it was boring, and not as ear popping as the albums before it. The solution wasn’t to go pop, it was to create a better R&B album.
Well he did get one of the biggest singles of his career…. “OMG”. And like I said…Usher NEVER went straight pop like Ne-Yo. He released a few pop songs here and there, but his albums were mainly R&B with some pop undertones. Just not so much the sultry R&B that we came to love him for….
And yes, like I previously stated….I hope and PRAY that his next album takes us back to the OLD Usher.
S****** how’s flopdonna I mean hoedonna doing? Can’t even sell platinum in single. Atleast lady gaga has 1 single and album from born this way.
Lady gaga>>>Madonna
Are you kidding me? Lady Gaga is a CARBON COPY of Madonna. BTW Madonna is the biggest selling female artist EVER. When’s Gaga gonna do it? Seems like she’s fading already. Her gimmicks have run their course…
Gaga is at her peak or was so her #s should be bigger than Adele, Madonna is 54, out of her peak, Gaga is in her best years and can’t even touch Madonna’s “Music” era, about who’s better, i respect your opinion.
Please. Madonna’s had 30 years of earth shattering success and has outsold, and has more hits, than just about everybody. She could flop for the rest of her career, and Gaga would still never catch up to her in sales or reverence. When Madonna was four/five years and two albums into her career, her sales were much bigger than Gaga’s are now and she had more hits. LAV went diamond, and outperform her hugely successful debut (which also outsold Gaga’s debut). BTW went only double platinum, and sold less than The Fame. Shall we continue? Madonna is well past her commercial peak, but her commercial peak was *much* bigger than Gaga’s has been.
Madonna > Gaga.
Overall Lady gaga is better than madonna.
Born This Way >>> MDNA
O_o
O_o
Is u for real honey child?
You are so annoying and disrespectful. But this time you didn´t lie: Born This Way>>>>>>>>MDNA
But who expects Madonna to make the best album of her career at this point? Nobody, she´s out of her peak, respect artists please
Justin, let xtina borrow some of those sales…
Btw, those bringing up usher, at least his voice is better.
JT has always had the same whiney boyish
type of voice from Nsync. Never has displayed any growth.
He can sing but it’s nothing amazing. Very little resonance
And he can’t go very high in his chest voice without switching
to a tired ass falsetto. #truth. And now everyone is jumping
on the bandwagon just cuz his sales are exceeding JB’s
First week sales. Sum dIckriding bs on this site.
I saw this comment on another blog and I have to agree with it
“It’s sad that white people can sing R&B/Soul and it sells but not with Black ppl.
Justin is selling this like this because he’s white. Same goes for Adele. Black Artist make R&B/soul music and don’t sell anything close to this or Adele numbers
Just look at it.
The biggest selling album last year, WHITE
Biggest selling single last year, WHITE
Selling 1 million in the first week, WHITE”
This is not meant to be racist but to state facts. I applaud JT as he deserves the success as well as Adele. But to my black people.Do you see what happens when they learn to do what we do? Like Eminem is the best selling rapper of all time and I’m not sure he’s a good rapper. I’m not hating on the artists. But my bone is with America.
Eminem is an AWESOME rapper. He has deserved every sale & accolade that he’s received. But yeah, if he were black….he wouldn’t have sold that much……thats common knowledge.
If EM was black, he would not give us gem’s like ‘ the way I am ‘ Clearing out my closet ‘ or lose yourself.’
All he would rap about is drugs, n****, killing , skrippers, yellowbone mami, spanish redbone, booty. b****, h**, purple, drank, kush, foreign broads, cars, audamar watches ( most cannot even afford anyway.
EM has to be the king of rap, there is no n**** good enough for that title.
Hmmm!!! Yet the N**** Jay-z is worth $450 million and Eminem $100 million. Lets not talk about how much Dr Dre is worth. He can steal black music but never be business savy like the black rappers – I mean he sign 50 cent who is now worth more than him – have several seats please!!!!!
Come let us help JT get a million He deserves it. I read that he really had meetings with the head of RCA about how to market the project, this was back in SEPT. Ciara has failed to chart after 4 attempts – clearly she is not paying attention at her meetings withLA or there is not meetings. All she does is chase LALA and hang off fUTURE’S NUTS. And you wonder why???????????
JT delves deeper into music than your average black. Gone are the days when black men use to be like Donny Hathaway ( JT is a fan ) Otis redding , s*** Sam Cooke , Marvin Gaye or Stevie – ray charles, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, jackie wilson and Solomon burke too. Now, this generation of black american man is nasty, horrid, color struck ” skripper ” over sexed chasing thug. All they do is sing about yellow bone this, red bone that, or ” beautiful black women, bet that b**** look better red” Newsflash! JT or any white singer does not need racially abuse the CORE female demographic to garner attention. Most black singers or rappers scream the race card at JT, white make racially offensive songs about darker women – their main target. White girls do not buy there songs do they?
Black male singers alienate their core fanbase. If you are black doing RNB you have to put black darker women as leads. You cannot offend them or degrade them THEY ARE YOUR FANBASE. Black men messed up when they started putting Latina in vides and called black women ugly. White, smart men from One direction, JB, JT or any rock singer like Fun or Mumford and suns would not do that to white women, cos their target is WHITE WOMEN. YOU JT would do a song DISSING WHITE WOMEN, then expect to get their $$$$$$$? Black men stay loosing.
JT is more creative than black singers of this day and age: from his influences t=in david bowie, Talking heads, INXS, Led zep’., Queen, etc to his love of Cinema and art and style. He has taste. Something ghetto ratchet BLACK MEN LACK.
I have read of black women ( educated with careers ) who have boycotted Chris brown, kanye, wayne and most rappers do to the unfair treatment they get from these ” black ” men. When Yung Berg said Black women are UGLY dark butts he never sold records again. Tyler the creator has never had a hit COS he also made a song saying ” black women are jealous cos all girls are mixed”
You say these things about YOUR CORE audience and you expect them to BUY your s***? Then u have Frank Ocean: He could of been huge, but he is singing to black MEN, and women ( black ) are not feeling that deep down.
Then you have miguel: he does black music, but goes on and on about he is half mexican; even has mexican women all in the video and on his arm. Funny thing is, MEXICAN or latin do not claim him they way they do Selena, JLO Alejandro Sanz or Jennir Rivera. He is just N word in latin culture. Once again black men alienate their fan base. Why do u think Young A list white Hollywood actors are seen with white women in movies and real life? THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY IS. If Rob pattison started to say white women are ugly and ethnic women are better – HE WILL NEVER WORK AGAIN.
BLACK AMERICAN ARE STUPID. That is why they lose. I know of t*** black girls, sick of being insulted by Chris brown, who now spend their money on One direction and Beeber. Chris brown is know to call dark skin girls ugly on twitter and refuse to take a picture with them. Well, now, these dark skin girls can spend their money on Beeber, who would NEVER EVER be so racist.
Lol Miguel does NOT go on and on about being half-mexican. At least he writes, produces and sticks to R&B music. He has two CLASSIC albums. Way better than anything Justin has done IMO. It’s crazy though….even his Grammy performance & win didn’t get his album to gold status… 0.0
Even on Love and Hip hop NY, The black rapper wrote a song for mixed girl saying ” Light skin is the right skin, so bring your white friend”/
The mixed rapper was so offended that she decided NOT TO TAKE THE SONG. The black rapper who wrote it for her, has never had a number 1. Now he knows why!
Well Lil Wayne CONSTANTLY disrespects BLACK WOMEN, God and everything & everybody else, but he’s one of the biggest selling rappers out there….
Lil wayne has never had a hit in THE UK and he cannot f*** with Em, 50 or DMX recod sales.
B**** I’m tired of scrolling past your nonsense paragraphs. Stfu…
I have so much fun in this post, lol.
Best Selling Male artist of all time.
Elvis Presly
Best Selling Band of all time.
The Beatles
Best Selling Female artist of all time.
Madonna
Best Selling Rapper of all time.
Eminem
LMAO, messy b****.
AND THE SECOND BEST selling rapper is 2PAC. A black man who was proud to be black and never abused anyone in his life. He spoke the truth. ALL these ” yellow bone, red bone, spanish mami, dark butts are ugly rappers DO NOT EVEN GO GOLD.
HA Karma upon black american men is LOVELY. I am glad black american men stay loosing. They are more racist and horrid than any one on earth.
Do not throw more fuel on the fire, lol.
They all were Tralier Park TRASH thou ….TPT lmao.
LMAO.
I also never understood how Beyonce is this GLOBAL SUPERSTAR, but her sales don’t reflect it. Shouldn’t she be up there with the Adele’s and Taylor’s? This is NO SHADE….I’m just saying.
The only stanbase that boost of GLOBALNESS is the Navy.
While Rihanna is pretty untalented, she has done something that I haven’t seen a black girl do in a very long time….she has CONQUERED the world to become a global POPstar. And with that being said, her sales are still average. I think she moves on to new eras too quickly. She could’ve dragged “Loud” out for at least another year, but whatever. Not a fan.
Beyonce is one of the biggest stars out there. And her sales are SOO average. I mean when I looked at her sales, I gasped because I expected her to sell more than that. I thought the Sasha Fierce album sold at least 5 million in the US. I also thought that B-Day sold around the same. It really baffles me.
You don’t think less than 30M ww albums sold with 7 ALBUMS is average? 🙂
While you think IASF selling less than 5M in the US is shockingly average you don’t think Rihanna highest sales of 2.5M in the US is average?
UR Logic is a joke.
I’ve never seen anyone in the hive boost of Beyonce gobalness and alot of her haters think she is just a local R&B artist so what’s the point you are trying to make with bringing up Beyonce’s name in JT Post?
Dumb b****, can you read? Didn’t I say that Rihanna’s sales were average? And we were talking about blacks selling less than whites. Someone mentioned Rihanna, Beyonce and Nicki so I posted THAT. Problem?
YOU ARE A JOKE HONEY. Don’t come for me unless I send for you (or until you learn to comprehend). Be gone dahling.
Sorry for not reading your comment properly before responding. Um, I barely cast my eyes on it.
But the last part of comment still stands. Beyonce isn’t seen as a Gobal Superstar, but a local R&B act.
I said it because of your comments which is totally irrelevant to the discussion and Yes a poor attempt to shade Beyonce, where u capitalized ‘Global superstar’ :
“I also never understood how Beyonce is this GLOBAL SUPERSTAR, but her sales don’t reflect it. Shouldn’t she be up there with the Adele’s and Taylor’s? This is NO SHADE….I’m just saying.”
And your 2nd comment makes no sense you are basically saying Beyonce and Rihanna are Huge stars with average sales but even with Rihanna average sale you think she has conquered the world and you went on to criticize Beyonce for her average sales in the US, but not Rihanna whose sales are even more Average in the US. Very bias of you but it’s expected
I didn’t criticize Rihanna? Didn’t I say her sales were average? I am not about to sit up here and sound like a broken record. People in here are talking about every artist EXCEPT Justin (Usher, Ciara, Gaga, Madonna, Miguel, Adele, Jill Scott), so I can’t speak on Rihanna and Beyonce? I am NOT a Rihanna fan, so how am I being bias? 0.0
Girl SAVE YOUR SUPER STANNING FINGERS because you aren’t talking about a goddamned thing. AT THE END OF THE DAY, Rihanna = AVERAGE SELLER; Beyonce = AVERAGE SELLER.
STFU! U had no business bringing up Beyonce sales in this post.
Girl, know your role and eat a d***. I say what I want, when I want. Stay mad bum b****. POW! You’re dismissed.
STFU! U had no business bringing up Beyonce sales in this post.
LOL the reach at HDD, even delusional Sam can’t reach this high for his fav fraud.. Most people downloaded this album illegally.. It will move 150k units, and the whites at HDD will have to deal with egg on their face..
People always compare Adele to Jill Scott and Angie stone based on how fat these women are. It ends there!
Jill Scott does not have the level of talent Adele does. Jill scott had a song in 2000 and ghetto video called ” geting in the way of how I feeling ” The song and video was about some ” sistagirl” trick h** that was f****** her her man. It was beyond ratchet. WHY Jill does songs and video’s that THAT! Adele writes Skyfall and Hometown glory ( an ode to London ) and you wonder why Adele slays over ghetto Jill Scotte.
NO black singer can write a song as meaningful as ‘ someone like you ‘ . AND Amy winehouse F****** SHITS ON black women. Hardly any black woman could match the writing and vocal styles of Amy winehouse and Y’all know that. THAT IS WHY BLACK WOMEN STAY losing.
But honey, Jill Scott is what she is. She is a singer/poet from PHILLY. She has never tried to be mainstream. She has never compromised her sound to appeal to the MASSES. She still sells out arenas, sells albums, gets acting gigs and remains one of the most respected females/most recognizable voices in Neo-Soul.
“He Loves Me”>>>>>>>>> Adele’s entire discography.
He loves me? Well Amy winehouse has love is a loosing game, HA UK white girls WIN.
HE love me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crack out amy
And?
“He Loves Me” slays LIALG also. And vocally, Jill Scott slayed Amy. Amy sounded the same on EVERY SINGLE track. Plus Amy was a glorified alchy/feign and her music reflected it.
Jill has never been a junkie, nor has she EVER disappointed her fans during a live show, causing them to boo and walk out of her.
RIP to Amy though.
Well JILL has never had a hit or garned the fame and fortune as adele and amy and I am glad. We cannot have trash like Jill Scott rising to the top.
Lol Jill is trash? Oh ok. Critically acclaimed trash, I guess. Let’s see if Adele’s career will last 13 years….you know how your beloved yts quickly move on to the next trend. 🙂
Adele has already wrote her name in history. Call me when Jill Scott is invited to the oscars.
Both of Jennifer Hudson’s albums flopped, and she won an Oscar/is ALWAYS invited. Soooo whats your point?
@Mother Mariah please don’t waste anymore time on this lost soul.
Adele has an album that has sold over 25 million. J hud will never even sell a MILLION ON ANY ALBUM.
Blacks are failing to sell because THEY suck at business and marketing. Do any of these black singer have managers? Do they even bother to attend to meetings with the heads of their labels? Do they have publicist? I heard to white stars have like 5 / 6 publicist globally working for them.
Also, blacks suck at networking. Cher lloyd builds relationships with Programe directors of every pop radio station in the USA. CIara goes to dinner and lakers game with LALA. See the difference? Do black singers do shows? EVEN if they have to perform for free, it is better than nothing!
Aslo, black men only write about s** with yellow bone mami’s and black women only write about how N****’s done f***** up and broke her heart. THAT IS WHY THEY FAIL. Look at keyshia cole, she done a video where her n**** ” done ” cheat on her and she bust the trick in her face/ Blacks were cheering on the video, ( even SAM ) saying it is much better than Diamonds and you wonder why white America do not support a singer beating up a h** for f****** ” wit ” her man.
Black singers of this day and age – male and female – enb and hip hop are joke. It is like the lack of education and ignorance oozes from their pores. Most blacks in day and age are not educated. They drop out of school the most, come from single t*** moms and end up incarcerated. It shows in the music.
Re-read re-write, but blacks lack education.
Yes Jay-z is worth $450 million and Beyonce is worth $350 million – let me know when Eminem gets to half of that amount Please!!! And uneducated Dr Dre and 50 cent who Eminem signed are both worth more than his trailer park uneducated white self – so what is your point? We both know that Adele, Pink, Taylor Swift and Justin Timberlake will never ever be as rich as these uneducated Negros!!! Shame really isn’t it? White and Bright for NOTHING!!!!!
Eminem is an amazing rapper but let’s not credit his music like it’s anything revolutionary. Tupac was revolutionary, yes his message often times seemed negative but he also rapped about positive things like his mom, uplifting the community and working hard to succeed.
Eminem has rapped about how he hates his mom, killing his baby momma and other psychotic stuff so please, Eminem is not as revolutionary as someone is trying to make him be.
Wow. Can’t believe u said something that makes sense. Kudos. Still hate ur guts tho.
As far as I know, Michael Jackson’s biggest era was the Thriller era, when MJ was still black so please, the race card is irrelevant. It is simply good marketing, hype, music and overall how a record stands out.
Does this “Report This Comment” button work, or is it just decorating our comments?
Anyway Fantasia’s “Side effects of you” comes out in April, why is she on every TV, RADIO, STAGE, BLOG, FACEBOOK FEED, TWITTER FEED, INSTAGRAM FEED, MOMMA’S BASEMENT, MOMMA’S MOMMA’S BASEMENT promoting the hell out of that CD. Justin was promoting the hell out of his CD and today he’s reaping the benefits.
Alicia Off-Keys (with poor material)was promoting the hell out of her album EVERYWHERE (she’s on the same label as JT) and today she’s sold over 1 million WW. It’s not rocket science, you need to work hard to reap the benefits.
I’m sorry you can’t use Fantasia’s she isn’t even mainstream like JT or Alicia I’m just saying.
Right. Fantasia won AI, but never did Kelly Clarkson/Carrie Underwood/Phillip Phillips numbers. She does R&B/soul music. Soul music is WHO she is.
But hey, at least she sold more records than Jennifer Hudson’s loud ass. Oscar award and all lol.
You missed the point, my point is why isn’t she promoting. She’s on the same label as Alicia Off-Keys who’s also black, how come Alicia got the promo train rolling, what did she do differently?
….and this is one of Alicia’s poorest/slowest selling albums. She has only sold like 620k. Even Rihanna has outsold her by 200k.
Fantasia doesn’t have an Alicia/JT budget. “Lose To Win” is a pretty good song, but it isn’t as strong as her previous singles. Even Brandy had better promo and she only sold 67k in the first week. I predict Fantasia will sell around 55k. Poorly handled project.
The point is that Alicia’s numbers are still solid enough to garner her another LP because she promoted, why isn’t Fantasia promoting??
With what budget? I mean look at her album cover. If that doesn’t scream low budget, I don’t know what does. Fantasia is performing at theaters and festivals, unfortunately.
If Fantasia had sales similar to Alicia, I’m sure she’d be promoting everywhere right about now….
Lovebird you just don’t get it I see. As Mother Mariah has stated Fantasia doesn’t have a budget like Ak, Beyonce , hell even Rihanna.
What about Ciara? I have just come from her twitter, she is on her way to DJ porstyle B day. Cher Lloyd is asking her bratz to hit up every pop station in America to request her song, plus she is doing a radio tour in Texas, then she plays a show in Dubai. See how business savvy whites are?
Ciara had solid material with “Overdose” and “Livin it up”, she blew it by releasing the crap she’s released so far. Plus she expects LA Reid to do all the work. LA Reid is no longer running his OWN label (LaFace), he’s working for SONY. He’ll invest in artists willing to work hard and who are viable like Avril Lavigne.
Simply put, Ciara needs to pull her weight here.
Overdose and livin it up are f****** BS. This woman is near 30 and this is the crap she comes out with? I know LA REID WILL GET FIRED AGAIN.
@lovebird overdose and living it up are still both trash.
Some beyonce TEA ( THANKS TO THE snitches HA HA HA )
ubmitted by the_hot_chick on Mon, 03/18/2013 – 2:41pm.
Beyonce’s recent music (from her last album, and apparently this upcoming one) sounds like s*** because she’s alienated most of the songwriters and producers out there, and they won’t give her their best work anymore.
Beyonce doesn’t write or produce songs. She’s notorious for strong-arming songwriters/producers into sharing their credits/royalties with her. This happens a lot in the industry. What makes beyonce worst than any other entertainer who does this is that beyonce (rather than keeping her mouth shut and collecting the royalty checks) will do interviews and lie/brag that she conceived of/created the song all alone. It’s bad enough to give up major portions of your royalties to some celebrity who did no work on the song. It’s even worse to have that celeb publicly pretend that you weren’t even involved in creating the song you wrote/produced.
The songwriters/producers just got tired of her. They’ll still work with her/sell her their music to her (a sell is a sell; a job is a job), but they save their best work for other people. Why give beyonce the best song you ever wrote, take a pittance in royalties, and have her lie about the credits in interviews? Instead, you can give bey some s*** song you didn’t think that you’d ever sell to anyone, and if her fan base makes it a hit, that’s gravy. If not…you didn’t think you’d ever sell the song anyway. You can save your best work for someone with the sense not to try and screw you over.
The best part is beyonce can’t figure out this is happening. She is incapable of distinguishing between good work and s***.
but they did def say that [Beyonce’s] label was PISSED at the garbage she submitted which is why she has no music out. They also told me that she is going to be let go after this if this album is not out of this world because she has cost them millions. On top of it all, she is doing endorsements left and right to pay them back on top of keeping the spotlight away from the lack of music…”
waouhhh you’re telling the truth right now BECAUSE a member of my family working at Columbia told me the same thing about bey .
Emeli Sande, in the UK had the best selling album last year. Emeli Sande is not white, what did she do differently??? How come the race card does not apply to her.
Alexandra Burke also had big numbers in the UK for her first LP “Overcome”, what did she do differently?? How come she was successful in that era and even went on tour??
Emeli Sande has gone mostly ignored in America. I like her album though.
I don’t even know who Alexandra Burke is.
Emeli Sande has been ignored in the USA because out here we do the one drop rule. In the UK emeli could hide behind her white mom and being from Scotland, but out in the USA – one drop of black blood MEANS YOU ARE BLACK and that is why white america cannot take to her like adele and amy even though she has their talent. Emelie HAS N**** HER WAKE UP CALL
She is mixed and in the UK the put mixed girls against black women. They let the UKGP her mother ( like Sade, Leona lewis, Gabrielle ) is WHITE. If Emlie was dark BLACK WOMAN she never would of sold like that/
Liane La havas, Corine Bailey Rae, Sade, Emelie, Leona, Gabrielle are all mixed and they do not do the One drop rule in the UK – in fact mixed race in EUROPE SCREAM THEY ARE NOT BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
samanthat Mumba was like Rih back in 2001 and she was BLACK AND IRISH. IN THE UK, as a woman you need to be mixed to get shine. Little mix and the saturdays both have MIXED GIRLS. There has never ever BEEN A BLACK WOMAN FROM EUROPE THAT HAS BECOME A SUPERSTAR. EVER.
Alexandr burke is the most woman in the UK. She is called a man and THE GP did not even believe that black soccer star would even date a black woman. NOW she is banned from every radio in the UK even though her debut LP and singles outsold Rita Whora in the UK and Europe. Go figure.
I’d like to know why the race card didn’t apply to Nelly Furtado nor Iggy who are making so called “black music”??
No one knew that Nelly Furtado had new music, and no one takes Iggy seriously.
I’m making a case against people who are saying Justin is only selling because he’s white, which is not true. Justin is selling because of HYPE and good MARKETING.
I think with Iggy, the race card was being used cos it is valid. She had songs dissing slaves. Also, she is wack but because she has fake ass, BM were hyping her up and dissing A bansk because she is dark. Banks said she could not get signed at certain labels ( def jam ROC nation) cos she was dark.
Why the f*** is Ciara name being mentioned? Anyway, Congrats to justin Kelly aka Cybil, b**** worry about your fave smoking blunts to function and almost getting caught up and throwing her entourage under the bus. They enabling that h**. U not privy to what the f*** happens in her meetings with LA reid just know that deal she owns her publishing and its not a 360… fall back h**! It dont matter who was on it, “Lovesexmagic” was a top ten hit! Lets talk about how many writers it takes y’all faves to get their grammys and #1s… #BYE
lovesexmagic was top 10? wow! That was cos of the cool white boy, not that ugly girl. CIARA does not have meetings with LA – look at the state of her career?
Did u buy bodyparty yet?
These are the songs Rih has on the USA ITUNES CHART: Diamonds, Stay, love song, Pour it up and Pour it up remix.
CIARA HAS NEVER EVER CHARTED ON THE ITUNES CHART IN A YEAR. 4 FLOP SONS IN A ROW
I think eminem a great artist him and tupac are my favorite rappers because they bare their soul into their music they let us know about their lives completely and both have revolutionary music eminem raps about hateful thing because his life was hateful and tupac rapped about hateful things too because his life was also hateful if anything these two artists struggled period they both deserve the success they have I hate when people talk about race card some are honest and okay while the rest if y’all are just bitter and jealous and I feel that black people need to stop this light skin vs dark skin at the end of the day were all black how do expect to get over racism when we are racists to our damn selves! Smh
Ewww… Can’t stand that jerk Eminen.
All I have to say is get your motherfucking life Justin!
His promotion was PERFECT for 2013. People have a short attention span now, so stuff really needs to move quickly when it comes to releasing singles and videos (especially releasing the second single early for buzz, then releasing the video on the album drop date).
Combine that with the surprise feature of Jay-Z and the fact that no one even knew the album was coming (which generated a lot of instant buzz) then you have a hit. He probably didnt spend too much on production of the album too since he worked only with Timbo (Tim probably will make his money on the back end after sales)…he probably put all his label money into promoting . He’s a smart businessman when it comes to how an album should be handled. People really need to take notes on what was done with this project, then maybe everyone could sell a little more…
spill it b****!
Why are people bringing up Usher’s name? Usher did 1.1 million in the first week years ago, so what if JT do 900k (I doon’t think so, I’m still on 400K), JT is taking nothing from Usher, why you ask? With this: Let’s see it go diamond. Sit!
That was in 2004 ho
Well its weird I personally think Lady gaga is a better artist than Madonna. Well Lady Gaga destroyed Madonna with “The Fame” album of the century. Anyways JT deserves this sales its not his fault that old the other black RnB boys are flopping. They should be more like him, promote their stuff and try to mix genre’s like JT and beyonce… Many Reggae and Deep Soul I don’t know but make something fresh that will get people going… For RnB black boys its always about the same thing. I personally can’t stand Trey songs, Frank Ocean,Omarian… They are all boring. The only black guy that can reach Ushers height is Miguel there’s something about that guy he’s soooo!! Uhmm. Anyways congrats to JT. I want him to reach 1 million first week
@jackieyonce B**** TF you on about? You troll, stop spamming TGJ
Look who’s talking.
And Thriller was 83. And Born this way was 2011 and Red was 2012. What the f*** is your point?
Brandy and Miguel’s albums were way better than this, and they barely sold over 100k the first week. Brandy couldn’t even reach 70k. Tell me race and his connections to Roc Nation has nothing to do with it when a white man putting out an R&B cd with 10 tracks go almost platinum in its first week. Ain’t nobody racist, its just the truth. That album is not worth all the attention it’s getting and i’m a fan of the guy!
I see no lies.
Why would anyone buy this s*** when you can download for free? Leaked HD versions have been out for weeks. Besides, aint worth 900k sales. At first listen the cd is a jumble mish-mash of updated versions of 60’s big band era sound. Sort of like Michael Buble with a modern beat mix. First listen the cd is a mess. Takes a half dozen listens before it begins to sound “OK”. This cd is better for cabaret/jazz club crowd not billboard top 100 pop. The video with Jay Z is better than the track itself. Without the vid it’s a mess. Point blank!!
I actually like suit and tie and pusher love girl. The rest of the CD I could care less about though.
I have to look at some of you with a sideeye and smile!!
Reason being there is no way to be comparing JT to Robin Thicke.
Justin has a core base of fans from Mickey Mouse Club to N’sync to Comedy (SNL)to Hollywood.
His brand is just on such a huge scale from promoting, showing all his fun, charisma, singing live on point and is giving R&B a big boost.
The Beiber young fans love JT also as they see him as the blueprint for their no.1 guy
Ultimately after such a long break from the music scene people are just glad he is back & it really doesn’t matter how good the music is because him as a person is loved 1st now.
The songs are not WOW but its sell-able.
Timberlake at the end of the day appeals to all types of fans and although race a bit of it, he personality is most of it.
This is as a result of his huge fan base and long absence from Music. I’m sure a lot of people have been waiting for his album. That just explains it. I have long been waiting for his album to drop too
I love watching you naysayers seethe! 😆
He’s doing close to a million and you’re trying for dear life to discredit it, but there’s nothing you can say or do to hinder his albums success. It’s giving you so much angst and bitter feelings; I love it! Don’t hate 20/20 because you think it’s overrated or because you think Justin is getting a pass for being white…hate it because it’s actually SELLING through the roof and there’s NOTHING you can do about it! *wink*
JT defo can sell albums but it is a Pop album and he does have a stable fanbase even after all these years. I do think imo that Usher is more talented though.