L.A. Reid Blasted For Failure Of Rihanna/Mariah’s Albums

Published: Wednesday 10th Mar 2010 by Trent

Antonio L.A. Reid has found himself in hot water after being accused of mishandling many of his label’s biggest projects during the last year. The Island Def Jam CEO has reportedly been facing pressure from Lucian Grainge, the new Universal Music Group CEO, following his rampant spending and the incredibly low sales of Mariah Carey and Rihanna’s recent releases. Moreover, Reid’s recent efforts to sign Jennifer Lopez (who has not had a hit  record in years) have made him the target of serious media criticism.

Reid was scheduled to answer questions  from fellow industry moguls regarding the issue at the Billboard 2010 Music & Money Symposium at the St. Regis last week but failed to make an appearance after one of his sons mysteriously fell ill. To date, Carey’s ‘Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel’ has sold just short of 500k units since it’s release in September while Rihanna’s ‘Rated R’ has only shipped 2.5 worldwide compared to the 2.6 million that her ‘Good Girl Gone Bade’ album sold in the US alone.

Dear Mariah and Rihanna: Get out now! Do not pass ‘go’. Do not collect $200. Just get the heck out of Dodge!

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  1. cold case love March 10, 2010

    2.5 million worldwide in 3 months is a flop?????

    Mariah’s album is a flop,she hasn’t even sold 1 million worldwide, but don’t shade Rihanna.

    Her album hasn’t even been out for 4 full months yet and she’s sold over 2.5 million.

  2. alex March 10, 2010

    i hate it when u people write articles without checking yout facts first.
    rated r hasn’t even reached 2M WW….more like 1.5M… .SMH..

  3. ☆Lola A♏ ★ March 10, 2010

    Over 2.5 milli in the world is a flop for Rihanna. She blew up with GGGB and with all the media hype she has, Rated R should have blew all of her competition out of the water! Has she even SOLD a milli in the US yet?

    P.S. Notice I said sold, don’t quote me any RIAA certifications for RIAA because those were for units shipped.

  4. stan March 10, 2010

    “la told me,
    you’ll be a pop star…
    all you gotta change,
    is everything you are…”

  5. movieman March 10, 2010

    rated r is such a flop omg

  6. Kyus93 March 10, 2010

    Rihannas album has only been out for 4 months!!! It’s selling faster than GGGB & that went on to sell 8m WW!!!! Have some patience b****** & don’t be so quick to bring out the flop card!!!

  7. B March 10, 2010

    They need to start with 2008 when he mishandled Janet’s Discipline and Mariah’s E=MC2. Although I didn’t care too much for E=MC2 cd, he sure did KCUF it up with bad single choices. The cd sold what it did soley off the success of the Emancipation of Mimi and Touch My Body, none of the follow up singles had any real success.

  8. fritzma March 10, 2010

    What goes around comes back around, the way he mishandled More Than a Woman by Toni Braxton, even Just Whitney by Nippy..he surely deserves what he is getting..

  9. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    RATED R HAS SOLD AROUND 2 MILLION IN 4 MONTHS

    SORRY, BUT THAT’S NOT A FLOP BOO.

    WHITNEY AND JAYZ HAVE SOLD 2 AND 2.4MILLION WORLDWIDE IN 8 MONTHS

  10. Kenken March 10, 2010

    Now we see why Janet split quicker than she signed…..the truth always comes out in the end

  11. DizzyGuy1985 March 10, 2010

    These Rihanna stans really know their figures..that kills me.

    I feel like both CD’s were garbage. I like Mariah and I like Rihanna and this is coming from a person who is non-biased. The only song I liked from Mariah was “Hate You” and from Rihanna “Rude Boy” eveything else from the two could have been on a mix tape or something.

    L.A Reid is a hit maker, but I feel like he just relied on “the name” and not on actual quality work. You can put out three or four lame singles and if you created a fan base than people will be drawn to it. Look at Beyonce and “Get Me Bodied”. That was the lowest selling single out of all of the singles for Bday. I liked it but the numbers tell a different story.

    L.A is a big name in the music industry and if he wants to keep his name in good than he needs to be more active in albums with big names attached to them. Its one thing if its a new artists but when you think of Rihanna and especially Mariah they have set a standard and when you don’t pull through effectively than you start to diminish the quality of the brand they created.

  12. ken March 10, 2010

    @nICKY22: You’re incorrect-

    Nippy’s album, I Look to You has been out for 6mths and it’s sold around 6mil with very, very little promo by Whitney and only song success in the US on urban/ac. She only did one promo in England, France, Italy and Germany and aboout 4 appearances in the US.

    Jazy-Z is around 2.5million for nearly 6mths.

    Rihann’s cd has been out for 4mths and she has had hype and mulltiple, multiple appearances, performances around the world and the US- she has had about 4 videos and several hit songs. Her album has only sold around 660k in the US- surely it should be at least 1.2mil to 1.4mil in the US by now with all of her promo, vids and songs on the radio.

    She’s been to Australia, UK, german, france, etc multiple times, this album should be at least 3mil to 3.5mil SOLD.. She has only SHIPPED 2.5mil which means she proably has only sold around 1.7 to 1.8mil cds internationally and that is underperforming according to her last album and her hype and promo.

    Mariah’s cd has only barely sold 500k and that is a big flop considering who she is and that her last 2 albums sold 1.2 and over 5mil in the US. Mariah promoed everywhere in the US, UK, France and the album hasnt sold 100k in the UK and worse in France. She promoted in Japan/Korea and it hasn’t sold 100k there which use to be one of her biggest markets.

    Reid should not have let Mariah put out an album and if he did, he should have made sure she had some radio hits on it. Angel’s Advocate, her new album is just as bad a move- 2 songs, 2 videos and all flopping at radio.

    Amerie= flop
    Only Justin Beiber is doing really well.

  13. Tish March 10, 2010

    *Gucci voice* Well Damn…. With ALL the promo for BOTH albums, they STILL flopped… 2.5M well actually 1.5M WW for Rih Rih IS A FLOP… The fans n stans may not think so but if L.A. Reid is coming under fire n Rih Rih is back in the studios ALREADY after only 3-4 months of Rated R’s release n singles being released like clockwork… I smell a flop.

    N b4 the stans start attacking calling me a hater… I did buy Rih Rih’s album n thought it was artistically her best work thus far…. but for the mass media, in depressing times recovering from a recession, ppl wanted to hear more fun uplifting music which is why Rih Rih’s camp started to stray away from the dark image n why Rude Boy is like her best single so far..

  14. Meechy05 March 10, 2010

    Just speak the truth no one was feeling Mimi or rhirhi this time…Rihanna album was the business, and with all that negative publicity she turned folks off, MariaH marriage to Nick cannon overshadowed her album coming out…point blank. ..don’t blame him blame the artist they need to control what gets published to the world, bad or good publicity is’nt always good, its the music that counts. MS.KELLY 2010

  15. oz March 10, 2010

    and let’s not forget how he did my girl amerie wrong with the wackest promo and push ever!!!

  16. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    @ KEN

    NO YOURE INCORRECT BOO

    WHITNEY ALBUM HAS NOT SOLD 6 MILLION , GET THE F*** OUTTA HERE.

    WHITNEY HAS SHIPPED 2 MILLION AND WILLALMOST BE 2 MILLION

    WHY DONT U GO TO UNITED WORLD CHART AND ADD HER SALES….YOU WILL SEE HOW YOUR COMMENT IS INVALID. LOOK ONWIKIPEDIA BOO

    NOT ONLY THAT……..RIHANNAS ALBUM IS STILL IN THE TOP 15 ON THE UNITED WORLD CHART.

    IT WAS #11 THIS WEEK……JUSTIN BIEBER WAS NOT IN THE TOP 20……

    http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

    so if you wanna throw out invalid comments , show evidence boo

  17. imyourstar702 March 10, 2010

    I told you guys ages ago that LA Reid should be sacked!!! Rihanna’s album should have sold more considering how much promotion she had, Whitney has had literally no promtion compared to Rihanna and doesn’t have the radio support but yet she’s SOLD 2 mill ww. And please don’t even get me started on Mariah and Janet because god knows I’ll be here till kingdom come.

  18. Alex March 10, 2010

    I wouldnt call Rated R a flop. 2.5 million in a matter of months is very impressive in todays market

  19. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    @ ken , Rihannas album has sold 710 K in the US boo and going strong selling 25 k per week in the US

    Rihanna is selling consistently

    SHE CAME OUT WITH DARK ASS MUSIC and its still selling millions

    She coulda came out a dance pop record and it would have done extremely well. She switched it up and people are getting it now.

  20. Andy March 10, 2010

    How can an album that has shipped 2.5 million WW and almost 6 million singles not including ringtones in 3.5 months be considered a flop. Can someone pls explain am lost .

  21. Andy March 10, 2010

    I think there is some can hatred for rihanna because if her album is in the top 15 every week on the world charts selling around 60K a week worldwide even beating justin bieber why is her album considered a flop. Someone pls pls explain it makes no sense at all…

  22. y2kmalone March 10, 2010

    @ Andy it’s not a flop they just hate her

  23. wow March 10, 2010

    so an article that was published on Feb 11th on the NY Post is now being used on March 10th, an entire month later on That Grape Juice?

    y’all are so up to the time, or maybe not?

    are your hits low so far for the month Trent and Sam? so you all need to use Rihanna and Mariah?

  24. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

    ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS POST THE CHART FACTS……..SORRY SAM AND HATERS

    RIHANNAS ALBUM IS TOP 11 ON THE UNITED WORLD CHART AFTER 4 MONTHS

    LMAO …GO SUCK A D***

    HER ALBUM SALES WILL BE EVEN MORE WORLDWIDE BECAUSE RUDEBOY IS SMASHING

  25. JoshZilla March 10, 2010

    One man’s flop is another man’s treasure. Mariah ain’t trying to sell millions, she been done that. Mariah sold millions before RiRi hit puberty. Why are you little queens so obsessed with numbers? Music should be about the music and not how much it sells. Get a life and stop acting like you know what you are talking bout.

  26. alljokesaside March 10, 2010

    Rihanna’s album is a flop. Countless stans rehashing and replotting the numbers will not change it. Shipped does not mean sold, so get out with that mess about numbers sold. Mimi’s album flopped too and I like her, but will not deny the fact. Y’all need to get over it. It happens to every artist at some point.

  27. Aunt Jackie March 10, 2010

    I’m not sure if it’s L.A. Reid’s fault Mariah and Rihanna didn’t sell.

    I read the original article on the New York Post, which is where this website got it’s information from.

    What that article says is that Reid continues to spend money on artists that aren’t selling well.

    The amount of money he put into Rihanna and the amount of numbers she did was a colossal flop (in terms of business). I don’t think her album did too bad, but it should have done much better. Fans will always say she did well, people who hate her will say she did horrible. The reality is that a star of her magnitude with the marketing machine behind her should have sold much more.

    It’s Reid’s financial decisions that are getting blasted. People are saying, “Come on L.A. you knew Rihanna wasn’t going to give us the return she should have and you STILL gave her the more money than any artist out”.

    They are saying “Come on Reid why are you half-ass promoting Mariah and throwing money down the toilet. Either promote her correctly or drop her”.

    They are saying “Signing J.lo? Come on Reid! Stop wasting money on people who aren’t selling!”

    That’s the only point of the original New York post article. It’s irrelevant whether Rihanna DID or DID NOT FLOP. The article is about how L.A. Reid continues to pump money into artists who are not returning the investment.

  28. Truthwillprevail March 10, 2010

    I don’t believe that about Rihanna’s album, Maybe it didn’t do as good as the others, but it wasn’t a flop. Anyway, they will release another album quickly to try to make people forget about that. I think the ONLY flop with that album is Rihanna pretending to be someone she isn’t., Leave that emo, punk, bad girl image to fefe Dobson, who you clearly tried to portray.

    Mariah on the other hand is a different story, some people just don’t know how to stop when they should. Just live off the wealth you have established already, and work on other ventures.

  29. shay March 10, 2010

    I dont really like L.A REID he seems shady but he shouldnt be blamed for there failure.Mariah had a lot of promo but her songs sucked compared to her other albums.Shes trying to hard to be young.She is a icon its no way she shouldnt be doing better.She needs to go work with some of her old producers like jd,p.diddy ect.I miss the old mariah,I hope she gets it together soon because she really is a great artist.Now rihanna,I think her songs sucked as well,Some say well her cd has only been out a few months and its 2.5 worldwide.Well considering the fact that shes on like her 4/5 song it should be doing better.Shes releasing almost the whole cd and shes not selling better then that :/.See people just talk about sell but they dont talk about how much the label has put out.Im sure the label has used more then a few million on rihannas cd and promo and they r not getting that back.A video alone can cost a million and she on her 4th,so they really are not getting there money back.She would actully be doing better if she only release like 3 songs and did less promo because then u can justifiy the low sales and the label would have prob broke even.
    So see dont make fun of people who havent sold as much because they may not be in debt with their label.Like her labelmate for example(i think she still signed) Amerie.She may not sale well but the label doesnt put as much behind her project either.U dont see amerie on every music channel and u dont hear her all over the radio.The label pays for that.So they expect artist like rihanna who do have all of that,to sale much better.
    Well good luck to her anyway,ive never really been a fan but I did like some stuff off GGGB.
    (sorry its so long lol)

  30. Carl March 10, 2010

    Hopefully this will make La step his coockies up cos he messes up all my faves projects. SMH.

  31. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    I said it before – I’ll say it again: “You DON’T discount a moving-product!” Why, after 8-million watched Rihanna – in sympathy, during that 20/20 interview, would you THEN sell her CD for $0.99? If anything, you RAISE-the-price to meet demand – simple, basic macro/micro Economics 101!

    What you NOW must ask yourselves is this: What will SHE do for an encore? …You see, she’s no-longer ‘credible’; if she were, ESPECIALLY after that 20/20 interview, she’d have sold 500K – HER FIRST WEEK.

    I mean, quite-literally, what will SHE do to ‘get-noticed’ for her NEXT project: her next CD? …GONE are her CoverGirl commercials, and the exposure THOSE gave her; GONE her liaison with CBreezy, and THAT alone, if-by-itself, drew the crowds to her concerts; GONE the 24-hour round-the-clock Chrianna coverage by the ravenous media; REMOVED: the sainthood, said mainstream bestowed upon her. …So what’s left? …We’ll never know; know why? Because no-one will be paying attention – that’s why!

    Again I’ll ask, if she is making ‘serious-bank’ and has, indeed-purchased a $10-Million home, then why can’t SHE pay her bills? Why is it that, her personal trainer, has to take her to court, for a ‘measly $30K?’

    …EVERYTHING bout Rihanna is ‘hype/hyperbole’ : smoke-and-mirrors ….and what’s worse, Rihanna-herself, believes it!

    X,Y,”and Z” — OUT!

  32. CH3RRii3 March 10, 2010

    HATERS!!!! how the hell is rihanna’s cd a flop it already has 4 Platinums and 4 Golds in 8 different countries and it has only been 3 and a half months!!! DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE WRITING MISLAEDING ARTICLES!!!!

  33. rachael b March 10, 2010

    He has just signed low brow London act NDUBZ for America.???????WHY? They are on decline in the UK, and I cant see it workign.3 strikes your out.byebye .

  34. Symone March 10, 2010

    @ X,Y “and Z”….Everything you wrote is on point !

    The real truth that Rihanna Stans don’t realize is that the industry numbers are different from what they perceive them to be.As you stated Rihanna had manufactured sympathy by way of her lies told during the 20/20 interview and she only sold 180,000 the 1st week and even with her cd reduced to 99 cents,that speaks volumes .As you said a “moving” product is not going to be reduced because it minimizes profit.

  35. nate March 10, 2010

    considering the money spent on rated r, it hasn’t delivered the sales to cover the cost. Same with Memoirs

  36. Blasian March 10, 2010

    Rihanna album didn’t sale 2.5 million worldwide. her album has sold 1.6 million worldwide over 700,00 in the US GGGB sold over 7 million .

    Rated -R has sold over 1.6 million worldwide

  37. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    GGGB has sold 8 Million+ to Date.

    Rated R has sold close to 2 Million to date

    Rihanna has only been out for 4 months…..Rihanna even admits, HER ALBUM WAS A CULTURE SHOCK for many. She did a COMPLETE 180 on EVERYONE

    People are catching on now , thats why its still in the TOP 11 ON THE WORLD CHART
    AND SELLING CONSISTENTLY

    I DONT KNOW WHAT DEFJAM CAN DO ABOUT MARIAHS PROJECT THOUGH

  38. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    TO PEOPLE WHO SAY RATED R HASNT COVERED THE COSTS

    RULES OF ECONOMICS:

    THAT STATEMENT WOULD BE VALID IF RIHANNA’S ALBUM SALES CAME TO A HALT

    THE UPFRONT COST AND MARKETING OF THE ALBUM HAS REMAINED CONSTANT……REVENUE IS WHAT CHANGES

    REVENUE – EXPENSES = PROFIT

    AS THE SALES CONTINUE TO INCREASE (ALBUM, SINGLE AND VIDEO SALES) PROFIT INCREASES

    CAN SOMEONE READ A BOOK PLEASE

  39. Keesha March 10, 2010

    1.6 million worldwide, for all of the idiots out there, IS A FLOP!!!! Just to let you know.

  40. bobs March 10, 2010

    More dumb ass reporting.

    RATED R is Rihanna’s fast selling album. It’s outselling GGGB at the 4 month mark. It’s her best reviewed album. Rude Boy is EXPLODING on the world charts. Rated is is Top 10 in the UK after 4 months. 3 top 10 singles in the US. Russian Roulette went top 5 or #1 in almost every country it was released.

    FAILURE? huh? Right now I bet Chris Brown is praying for this kind of failure.

  41. ANONYMOUS March 10, 2010

    CONSIDERING ALL THE F****** PROMO AND APPEARANCES RIHANNA HAS MADE (COSTS $$$) VERSUS WHAT SHE SOLD (REVENUE $$$), IT’S A FLOP. LABELS MAKE 6-8 BUCKS PER CD SOLD. IF RIHANNA SOLD 2.5 MIL WW THAT COMES TO 18-20 MIL GROSS WW. THEN MINUS ALL HER FREAKIN EXPENSES – ADVERTISING, COMMERCIALS, APPEARANCES, COSTUMES, TRAVEL, HOTEL, ETC. ETC. THEN DIVIE UP ALL THE ROYALTY CHECKS TO WRITERS, PRODUCERS, STUDIO COSTS, ETC AND YOU’RE LEFT WITH NOT MUCH. WHITNEY’S EXPENSES ARE WAAAY LESS SINCE SHE HAS DONE LITTLE TO NOTHING IN TERMS OF PROMOS. SO HER 2-2.5 MIL SOLD WW PROFITS ARISTA/SONY MUCH MORE THAN RHI RHI.

  42. cold case love March 10, 2010

    @xyz I knew your punkass would be here. Why u still talking bout 99cents, when she still selling right now????

    Why that was a contest you could win if you had a special coupon and dumbasses like u think that’s the samething as selling for 99cents??? Why would she sell off the 20/20 interview??? SINGLES sell albums not SYMPATHY. Taylor swift is an example of sympathy sales, you FAIL

  43. jamaican cutie March 10, 2010

    y blame L.A Mariah has ran out of steam and Rihanna is talent-less sooo…THERE YA GO!!!

  44. ANONYMOUS March 10, 2010

    ALBUM SALES IS WHAT LABELS PROFIT OFF OF NOT SINGLES DOWNLOAD SALES. THAT’S HARDLY NOTHING FACTORING DISTRIBUTION COMMISSION TO ITUNES, AMAZON, ETC LESS ROYALTY SPLITS ETC. SO EVEN IF A SINGLE SELLS 1 MIL +, GOES PLATINUM, CHARTS HIGH IT’S STILL ONLY 1 FREAKIN MILLION DOLLARS AND LESS AFTER ONLINE FEES. OH AND DONT FORGET ALL THE ILLEGAL DOWNLOADING THANKS TO LIMEWIRE, HAHA.

  45. jamaican cutie March 10, 2010

    Y’ALL BE SUCKIN THA S*** OUTTA RIHANNA’S DOOKEY SHOOT DAMN!!! LETS SEE IF U FALL SHE’LL BE THERE TO CATCH U

  46. ANONYMOUS March 10, 2010

    @JAMAICAN

    EXACTLY IT! THESE ARTISTS ARE DECLINING WITHIN AN UNFRIENDLY MUSIC REVENUE ENVIRONMENT. SO DECLINING ARTIST VALUE + DECLINING MUSIC REVENUE MODEL = LOWERED SALES EXPECTATIONS = REVENUE-EXPENSES DECLINE = EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PRETTY MUCH IT IN A NUTSHELL.

  47. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    @ KEESHA, SIT YO GHETTO ASS DOWN. A GIRL WHOS NAME IS KEESHA TRYING TO COMMENT , LMAO .

    READ MY COMMENTS BOO. EDUCATED YOURSELF

    @ ANONYMOUS……LMAO

    NO BUDDY…..REVENUE ALSO COMES FROM LICENSING, TOURING, AIRPLAY, CROSS-PROMOTION ……SO AGAIN, THE ALBUM HAS MULTIPLE SOURCES OF REVENUES, AND NOT JUST SOLELY BASED ON A SALE OF A PHYSICAL ALBUM

    EDUCATE YOURSELF.

    SINGLE SALES COUNT FOR A LOT BUDDY……..IF YOU SELL 5 MILLION SINGLES, THATS STILL REVENUE. A FRACTION OF ALBUM SALES BUT STILL REVENUE.

    PHYSICAL ALBUMS AND DIGITAL COPIES, YOU ARE PAYING THE RETAILER A FEE. ITS COMMON SENSE.

  48. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    @ ANONYMOUS

    EDUCATE YOURSELF. You have a hating disease and makes you sound really ignorant and pathetic.

    SO NOW THAT I AM DONE TRYING TO SCHOOL AN IGNORANT F**….IM ON TO THE NEXT ONE

  49. S.P March 10, 2010

    whoever thinks rated r has flopped is sick as f***

  50. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    SALE 8 MILLION SINGLES = SALE OF 1 MILLION ALBUMS

    SINGLES MAKE MONEY
    IF THEY DIDNT COUNT, BILLBOARD HOT 100 WOULD BE OBSOLETE

    I WISH IGNORAMUSES WOULD DISAPPEAR FROM THE EARTH

  51. Aunt Jackie March 10, 2010

    @ Rihanna Stans/Super Fans

    I still don’t understand why people think why Rated R outselling GGGB is something to celebrate. That doesn’t make Rated R more impressive. It should outsell GGGB, she’s four albums deep now. It outselling the previous one doesn’t say much.

    With that marketing, that album should have blew chicks out of the water. It didn’t, and I blame Rihanna’s style of performing (some would say stiff/lackluster/boring) bad 20/20 interview (most people I’ve spoken with said she seemed opportunistic and dishonest) and new dark image. It just didn’t work this time around.

    It doesn’t mean it won’t work out next time, we’ll see after she changes it up.

    This post is really about L.A. Reid and the FACT IS he’s being laughed at because he spent so much money on Rihanna and industry folks agree that it TANKED/FLOPPED in relation to the AMOUNT OF MONEY HE SPENT.

    Period.

  52. FREE March 10, 2010

    Why is LA Reid being blame for Rihanna’s failure to hit platinum in the U.S?
    Of all the artists in Def jam that released an album between early 2009 and late 2009, Rihanna had the most promotions. she was in every magazine, not just black magazines, she was in EVERY name brand magazine known to men. she was on every tv shows, every radio stations. SO how the fugg is LA REID being blame for rihannas flopped album?
    not only that the bish got a beat down from her boyfriend…thats an automatic 500k in sales the first week. and yet it took her 3 months to get 500 to 600 k in the U.S.
    and for the delusional stans who keeps sayin she sold 2.4 mil..yall need to check yall facts
    2.4 was ship not sold. she only sold 1.6 mill worldwide.
    rihanna is suppose to be a mega star and a bad bish and yet she cant even manage to sell like susan boyle, who was a nobody.

  53. FREE March 10, 2010

    but when it comes to Mariah Carey shes partly blame for her album floppin.
    people forget when ur a mega star like mariah, u have the option of sayin NO.
    she should have told LA REID no to releasin an album so soon..take a break first, let people miss u.. she released 3 albums back to back.. and la reid shouldnt have being to greedy an focused all his attention on rihanna.
    he figure since GGGB did so well, lets focus on rihanna this time. f*** mariah carey and wo ever else is releasin an album in 2009.
    and not only that RATED R was actually a better album than Memoirs of an imperfect Angel .
    mariah was trying to hard in that last album..she forgot her roots….she needs to leave all that autotune s*** to somebody who cant sing for s***, like rihanna.

  54. Reasonable Voice March 10, 2010

    The discounted albums that Rihanna sold during the Amazon.com promo don’t even factor into her overall sales because Nielson Soundscan doesn’t count albums sold below half price. So the 10K she sold on Amazon didn’t even factor into Rated R’s 270K sold during week 1. Anyone who bothered to look at the Nielson site and read their policy would know that. Nice try, haters.

    Sam and Trent using an article from month ago to try to prove a point . . . talk about desperate

    An album flops when the label loses money. Anyone care to be able to offer proof that Def Jam is losing money off of Rihanna?

    Let’s assume they spent 5 million on production, promotion, videos and distribution. Rihanna has made that back and then some off her digital download single sales alone. Every single she’s released has gone on to sell over a million copies. Last week’s figures alone at Hard at 1.3 million plus, Rude Boy is gold this week after a month of release, and Russian Roulette 3 million plus. Even if they spent ten million (which they didn’t, it probably hasn’t even been 5 million), they’ve made a profit off of her album sales.

  55. COLD CASE LOVE March 10, 2010

    @nicky I love your posts. Hardcore stan, do you have a twitter???

    @reasonable voice EXACTLY. Def Jam makes $6-8 PER album sold, and she’s sold 2.5 million (even if they shipped, the stores have already paid for it), that’s 16-20 million dollars made ALREADY. Not including digital sales, considering she’s sold over 4.7 million
    And rude boy is smashing already not even 2 months after a release. Don’t forget the money people PAY to see rihanna perform (500,000+), or how much revenue Rihanna will bring in from her 1.5 year long world tour.

    So I’d say Def Jam is pretty happy. LA reid knows to invest more money in Rihanna, since she’s obviously selling more on tour,singles,and albums than any artist on the label right now.

  56. I WONDER March 10, 2010

    I wonder when people are going to start blaming artist for under promoting their works? Sometimes it’s up to the artist to get out there and maintain good public relations. The label can only carry you so far. If you put out a great piece of work the public will grab on to it. Sometimes albums like movies take on a juggernaut effect through good word of mouth. Sade just released a great album that debuted at #1 because people understood that it was a superb piece of work.

    GOING TO READ
    http://www.thenoireffect.com

  57. Michelle March 10, 2010

    LOL. Some of you all have no idea what the hell you’re talking about and know NOTHING about album sales/the industry. Just stop.

  58. Reasonable Voice March 10, 2010

    @ I wonder

    Yeah, but also keep in mind that Sade releases like once every ten years, you know?

    @Cold Case

    ‘And rude boy is smashing already not even 2 months after a release”

    Yeah, Rude Boy is gold off of sales in 3 countries (US, UK, AUS/NZ). It was only distributed world wide like this week.

    Rated R is charting better in the UK now, then it did when it came out. Rihanna hasn’t had a flop single yet off of this album. Russian Roulette was her lowest performing single in the US and it’s still sold three million plus copies and counting . . .

    Def Jam needs to just keep releasing singles because Photographs, Cold Case Love, and Rock Star will only net them more millions

  59. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @ColdCaseLove – “Punk ass?!!??!” — Bwayahahahahahahah….

    You’ve YET to answer my question: If she’s ‘making-bank’ as-you
    “swear-her-to-be,” then why can’t she pay, a measly $30K, to her personal trainer – who NOW has to take HER to court – for failure to pay for said services/ THEFT OF SERVICE?

    …Back to that $0.99 “Rated-R” issue: I’ve NEVER heard of, nor-can-fathom, the idea of, reducing the price of a product/service – IF, said service/good/product, – is IN DEMAND! …And in the case of Rhianna, and the media-frenzy regarding EVERYTHING “Feb 8th-Chrianna”, if-anything, Def Jam should have raised the price – NOT lower it. …This flies-in-the-face of EVERY law of reason and macro-economics known to the free-market!

    …Talk about “Great-Expectations” and your “Bitter-Disappointment(s)”….Who, more-suited, or more-aware- than CoverGirl- I ask? I can think of not-a-one, who has ‘bird-eye-view’, and can take “lay-of-the-land,” than the marketing dept of CoverGirl: Ergo, Rihanna is no-longer the “New Fresh Face” of CoverGirl, that noble-distinction is NOW, under-the-charge-of, Dania Ramirez; congrats to her!!

  60. FREE March 10, 2010

    rihanna sold 270 k in ther first week. that her digital sales wasnt included in that 1.6 mil.and we’re suppose to impressed because?
    u got people like SADE, BEYONCE, BRITNEY SPEARS, SUSAN BOYLE, ALICIA KEYS, whos sellin over 400k to 700k in their first week, and i’m suppose to be impressed by rihanna whos suppose to be as big as them and selling 180 k in her first week?
    get the fugg out of here with we a hater s***. hell even lady gaga who just came out in late 2007 early 2008 got 1 album who sold over 8 million..she didnt have to do a re released to get those numbers.
    its one thing if rihanna was actually selling and we on here dogging her, but the numbers are there speaking for themselves.
    the stans can sit here and try to count all that extra s***, the digital numbers and that her tour is selling( how is her tour selling if that s*** hasnt even began yet), in the end shes a flopp, shes all looks and no talent.

  61. BitchPlease March 10, 2010

    Omg this is the problem. People are to focus on record sales. Rihanna’s RR is platinum, and Mariah Carey’s MOAIA is Gold. That’s not bad considering that it’s 2010. The quicker they realize that. The better they will feel.

  62. Michelle March 10, 2010

    LMFAO @ people thinking Rihanna was going to sell 500k from a 20/20 interview. Um, no. When’s the last time you bought an album because you saw an interview? It’s just like those award shows that MILLIONS of people watch, yet the artist’s cd’s increase by only a few thousand.

    Secondly, bringing in the 99 cents thing from Amazon is just stupid. Digital sales only make up 10% of the market. It’s not like the album was on sale for 99 cents at major retailers. THAT would have been something different.

    @ Aunt Jackie – I don’t agree with that first paragraph at all. In fact, most artist’s album sales decrease as they release albums due to the fact that the life-span of artists aren’t very long anymore, and sales get worse every year. Rihanna is one of the very few artists who’s album sales increase with each release they put out.

  63. MusicAddict(Drake-“Best I Ever Had”) March 10, 2010

    Its DefJam. What did you all expect?

  64. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    1ST US AND WORLD SINGLE:

    RUSSIAN ROULETTE: OVER 3 MILLION COPIES SOLD AND COUNTING, TOP 5 AND 10 IN OVER 25 COUNTRIES, # 1 IN 3 COUNTRIES

    2ND US SINGLE

    HARD : TOP 10 HIT FOR SEVERAL WEEKS….OVER 1.3 MILLION SOLD AND COUNTING

    3RD US SINGLE/2ND WORLD SINGLE

    RUDE BOY : #1 IN AUSTRALIA, IRELAND , TOP 5 IN OVER 10 COUNTRIES AND COUNTING….CLOSE TO 600K+ SOLD IN 2 WEEKS

    RATED R – #11 ON UNITED WORLD CHART AFTER 4 MONTHS. THE ELEVENTH MOST SOLD ALBUM IN THE WORLD

    LMAO,, SORRY HATERS, NUMBERS AND STATS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES

  65. COLD CASE LOVE March 10, 2010

    @Free you proved what a dumbass you were with these statements.

    1st Gaga has RERELEASED HER album, ADDED an EP and a deluxe edition= 7 million sold worldwide.

    Secondly, in case you didn’t know rihanna starts touring april 16th, so she’s sold out most of her arenas just off PRESALES DUMBASS.

    Why you bringing up Alicia Keys? Last album she sold 742K first week, this one she did 400K. And even WITH her selling 742K first week,rereleasing her album,and promoting just as much as Rihanna she’s only sold 6 million worldwide of As I am.

    While Good girl gone bad sold over 7.5 million,its not how u start its how u finish

  66. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    Rihanna was a “safe-bet”, and Def Jam invested-heavily, as they THOUGHT they had a “sure-thing!” The discounting, and $0.99 sale of her CD, came NOT during the first week, but thereafter! Just how-much did Def Jam invest in Mariah? …Not as-much-as they did with Rihanna – I’d gamble! That said, EVEN IF Mariah’s CD didn’t do as well – as expected – there’d have been no-doubt-cast, in the direction of L.A. Reid, as the “big-bet”:Rihanna, not only ‘covered’, but paid-off – handsomely!

    …But ALAS this recent-revelation ’bout L.A. Reid, and his soon-to-come departure from Def Jam! …Let’s see if HE will “discount” HIS-services – on the open-market – as he did Rihanna’s $.99 CD!!!!

    Back-again-to-revisit RiRi’s “theft of service” – to the tune of $30K: Didn’t Matt K, just sign a 2-year 10 million deal, or there bouts? …Damn, Matt K is getting that love for free, ain’t he?

  67. Aunt Jackie March 10, 2010

    @ Michelle

    I’m not saying that’s not a good thing, as far as her albums consistently being on the upswing. It’s great! And impressive in this day and age.

    But it doesn’t negate, or take away the fact that Rated R should have done better. AKA, it outselling the previous album doesn’t save Rated R from being a bit of a disaster! Any artist with that amount of push should outsell their previous album. It doesn’t warrant any praise in my book.

    Now, if she had lacked some of that ‘gianormous’ push they gave her, then I would be impressed or think that was something great.

    I don’t think it’s a logically sound argument for super-fans to use, as if that somehow makes her numbers showing better.

    But like I said, it’s really besides the point (all the Rihanna arguing) because it’s accepted in the industry that the album under-preformed. That’s why L.A. Reid is getting criticism for how he bankrolled the Rated R project, because it didn’t return that well.

    I think she’ll do better on the next go-round. I really think SHE should start dictating what she wants to sound and look like. It just “seems” (obviously I don’t know) like she’s a puppet, and that gets old after a while. I think eventually people see through that kind of packaged artist.

  68. ken March 10, 2010

    @nicky22: That was a typo that I didnt proofread. Whitney’s album shipped over 2mil and has sold around 1.8mil with little to no promo. It’s sold 940k in the US of 2 singles.

    Rihanna is younger, has more hype is everywhere on every tv show, radioshow, mag and still hasn’t sold 750k in the US

    Add to that her expenses and i doubt that Defjam has made money of RR- they probably are just breaking even

    those videos are probably close to $1mil each except the wait is over, travel, entourage, costumes, props, writers, production costs, studio time etc I doubt that they are making tons of this album and Rihanna has to tour to make most of her money because I doubt that she has huge royalties from her album.

    Mariah is another story- that album is a certifiable flop!

  69. COLD CASE LOVE March 10, 2010

    @XYZ You are a punk and a psycho. Going from blog to blog flocking to every Rihanna post just to hate on her because you have No life. 1st, her trainer sued her right? Show me the court documents, when Rihanna was served the documents, and a trial date for the case.

    Secondly, her CD was not sold at 99cents, it was a contest for an mp3 download. If you don’t understand that, then I feel bad for you, since your level of intelligience is astonishingly Off the radar. EVEN IF she sold 181K with the 99cents, why is she still selling right now? She’s less than 290K away from a million mark in the US, in just 3 months. When she’s 2x plat. By the end of the year, im gonna laugh so hard at your ass

  70. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    …Listen, let’s look at the “fall-out” regarding Rihanna, ‘Brand-Rihanna’ and “Rated-R”: If “Rated-R” was as big as a success as you’re desperately TRYING to convince us that it is, then why is L.A. Reid about to get fired and NOW becoming something of a Pariah within the recording industry? If “Rated-R” had done well, or at-least-covered it’s expenses, then we’d be hearing stories ’bout Def Jam buying Mr. Reid a Bentley, or some-other ‘ghastly and ostentatious’ display of his success and their appreciation of/towards him!

    …But NOooooooo! What we have is the rumor-mill working overtime; all-abuzz ’bout the impending end and unhappy state that Def Jam NOW finds itself after, under Mr. Reid’s charge, them investing-heavily in a project that seemed like a “sure-winner” but realized-itself to be nothing-short of a bust!

  71. sugar March 10, 2010

    x y z

    good ur back, tell them. pls do.

  72. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    You all can say what you want about Rihanna’s CD flopping, but when its all said and done, she will be laughing her way to the bank, and you guys will look like fools. 2.5 million is far from being a flop… Hell there are people in the industry right now, who would be begging to see those numbers.

  73. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    XYZ pls
    chris will save her, he loves her still and she does too (mentioned it several times in her interviews) and i think rih has investments back in barbados thats why she can afford to buy a 10M home in the US. her father i heard lives in a mansion too in barbados.
    chris has a big home too (i think he still lives with his mom)
    i actually miss the chrianna days 🙂
    i also like “changed man” too bad they are not together

    Go Chris Go – i love your songs

  74. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    get the fugg out of here with we a hater s***. hell even lady gaga who just came out in late 2007 early 2008 got 1 album who sold over 8 million..she didnt have to do a re released to get those numbers.
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    @ free And that same album, (The fame) that you are so proudly bragging about only sold 26,000 in the first week, and look where it is today. So I won’t be so quick to write off Rated R as a flop, because we all know that rihanna’s sales always simmers first before it comes to a full boil. That has always been her pattern, and it hasn’t failed her yet… The only people who seems worried are you haters. We the fans are sure rihanna will hit it out of the park, and when she does, you guys will see what we been talking about.

  75. FREE March 10, 2010

    @COLD CASE LOVE….I’m the dumbass huh..i’m not the one on here whos obviously delusional to the point of making of s*** just to prove a stupid point..
    u can sit here and call me all the names u want sweety in the end ur girl rihanna is still floppin…sorry booboo..
    second, GGGB has sold 7.6 million worldwide..if u gonna come at me make sure u get ur fact straight.
    and GGGB didnt reach 7.6 mill till it was re released so that means for ur slow ass, it took GGGB 2 albums to sell 7.6 mill. meanwhile THE FAME SOLD 8 MILLION..only took 1 album..
    its actually sad and pathetic how u stans feel the need to call somebody names because they dont agree with the s*** yall keep making up.
    and then turn around calll somebody a hater bacause they call rihanna names…lollol
    u delusional stans makes my day.

  76. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    X Y Z

    if matt has signed a 10m deal then im sure he wont let her down, woman love men with money. and i saw chris’ picture with a very beutiful girl (too bad she has a child) but she looks very hot.

  77. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    @ KEN

    RUDE BOY AND WAIT IS OVER WERE CHEAP VIDEOS. RUDE BOY WAS SHOT ON A GREEN SCREEN AND IS MAKING LOTS OF MONEY FROM SINGLE SALES

    CHEAP VIDEOS DONT MEAN BAD EITHER

  78. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    …Listen, let’s look at the “fall-out” regarding Rihanna, ‘Brand-Rihanna’ and “Rated-R”: If “Rated-R” was as big as a success as you’re desperately TRYING to convince us that it is, then why is L.A. Reid about to get fired and NOW becoming something of a Pariah within the recording industry? If “Rated-R” had done well, or at-least-covered it’s expenses, then we’d be hearing stories ’bout Def Jam buying Mr. Reid a Bentley, or some-other ‘ghastly and ostentatious’ display of his success and their appreciation of/towards him!

    __________________________________________________________________

    Um rihanna is not his only artist, could it be because Mariah, the biggest artist of all, didn’t quite hit it this time around. Stop trying to blame everything on rihanna and Rated R. Rihanna is delivering like she usually does, and L.A ‘s, supposed firing has nothing to do with her. You guys just pull things out of your ass, and hope it sticks. Please Def Jam never confirmed this so called story about him being fired because of Rihanna and Rated R, so where are you guys getting it from. Rumours are just that until proven true.

  79. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    XYZ
    about cover girl i think her time lapsed…… i now see three ladies i think one of them is dania and queen latifa

  80. Mechanical Girl March 10, 2010

    I still like Rated R but maybe they expected more because after GGGB blew up they thought Rated R would do better numbers along with some sympothy sales. But maybe it was the way the label put out her singles. Like they started with Russian R when it should’ve been Wait Ur Turn, Hard, Rude Boy then RR. Russian R kinda scared people away thinking the whole album was that dark which it wasnt. I still like Te Amo which should be a summer song along with Rockstar or Fire Bomb.

  81. FREE March 10, 2010

    @newsflash haters.. lol..we so call haters are the one wo seems wooried..
    please..u guys are the one ones on here who feels the need to break down rihannas sales.. how many countries shes platinum in, how many number 1s she has..if thats not a sad attempt at u stans bein the one wos worried i dont know what the fugg is..
    if rihanna is such the greatest bish on the planet , y dont u let her numbers speak for them selves..
    o yea u cant, cause her numbers are garbage..thats y u guys feels the need to call people out of their names.
    sweety if calling rihanna a flop makes me a hater, than ill be a hater s***..i ddont give a damn. unlike u stans i dont feel the need to kiss somebody ass and to be on their c*** 24/7, to make me feel good.

  82. Mechanical Girl March 10, 2010

    *sympathy

  83. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    Rih may sell more if she dances on stage, i mean my girl is young but very lethargic on stage, wtf, i went to see her live and was very disapointed… if she is not selling she needs to work on that. look at ciara she sings like janet but knows how to entertain, shakes her bum like crazy… rih is the only islander who cant shake her bum.

  84. KAMI March 10, 2010

    This is making me laugh, actually. I Ithink that L.A Reid is just shoving his money into artists that apparently ‘won’t’ sell because he’s obviously using the sacred cash cow complex. That means that if an artist had previous status, then promoters are going to shove money behind that artist because it seems like a ‘win all’ gamble. The only thing is that its a true shame that he’s realizing that he’s losing out with that gamble because Rihanna’s singles..more so Mariah’s aren’t selling as quickly as people would assume that they should be. I’m not dissing Rihanna whatsoever. All of her current singles have obviously topped the charts because I think that the fans she won from her hit-stream from GGGB and the sympathy from Chris Brown hitting her won her enough attention. It’s sort of similar to the Taylor Swift situation, except that Rihanna has a legion of hits to help back up her name.

    I’ve been pretty good with everything that’s been coming from Rihanna with her new album. Even though some people have trashed it or what not, I think that people just aren’t used to that dark, edgy and confident vibe that she was already tilting towards when she made that radical move of chopping off her hair round 07 or 08. Her entire perceived image became distorted, but it actually made her into even more of a cash cow because it became easier for her fanbase to migrate out of R&B into Pop. She’s obviously trying to exude as much of her alleged ‘fabricated’ image with the rest of the world. Some people get it and others don’t. I look at Rihanna as a sort of mega-morphing hit machine. She doesn’t necessarily have to have an outstanding voice, dancing abilities or whatever…But the girl sells because she’s another artist that rose by breaking the mold and turning everything on its head. Her, Gaga and Beyonce deserve to be on top of the music industry and I have no complaints about that.

    As for Mariah..I sort of liked her growing up and I could honestly see why she’s desputably called the ‘queen’ of the 90’s because her songs were much more soulful and her youthful vibe wasn’t as forced back then. But I haven’t been really impressed with where she’s been going. Every song that I’ve heard beyond ‘Touch My Body’ have been pretty pathetic . I honestly think that The Emancipation of Mimi was her ‘come back’ album. But since she’s ‘back,’ I think that all of her flop-singles are a result of her drowning in her losing battle of staying on top.

    Her and L.A Reid are sharing that similar dilemma, I see.
    Just because you’re famous..doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ll be entitled to that status forever.

    ~Kami

  85. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    and GGGB didnt reach 7.6 mill till it was re released so that means for ur slow ass, it took GGGB 2 albums to sell 7.6 mill. meanwhile THE FAME SOLD 8 MILLION..only took 1 album..
    ______________________________________________________________

    actually the fame didn’t quite sell 8 million till the fame monster, the second album was released, and then the sales went up. It didn’t get to that 8 million before the release of the fame monster which helped to push its sales upwards. So it did take her two albums.

  86. FREE March 10, 2010

    and @ newsflash haters..dont mater how much THE FAME SOLD the first week, first of all that was her first album, so she gets a pass. second the album now is 10 million.
    third…the excuse that rihanna is a slow pace seller is bull s*** and we all no it.
    this is rihannas 4 th album, the slow pace seller crap should have bein gone in her last album..rihanna didnt just come out yesterday. shes a mega star.not some bish that was on american idol who just came out.
    last but not least so what if alicia keys number went from 700k to 400k…the bish still sold more than 180k on her first week..
    how u guys gonna compare 400k to 180k..that sad lololololol

  87. cold case love March 10, 2010

    @free once again you prove to be a dumb b****, the fame WAS rereleased and had 3 DIFFERENT versions of the EP’s sales added to it.

    Im really laughing my ass off how Rude Boy was #3 on the world singles chart and hasnt even been released in most of europe until last week. Its just TAKING OFF!!! MONSTER SINGLE!!!!

    Follow up with Rockstar 101 (HUGE), Photographs and Te Amo (EVEN BIGGER), not to mention america’s favorite Fire Bomb. This album is gonna sell so much you haters are gonna be shocked since you wrote it off as a FLOP so early. I love how rihanna is always looked at as the underdog, and she always proves the BADDEST BISH when its all said and done

  88. Mechanical Girl March 10, 2010

    Im not a Rihanna stan(hate that word) like some on this site but I still like some of her music. Just be real it’s not like Rihanna is getting dropped LA REID IS. So I still dont get the denial in this just face whatever and move on. Maybe that’s why Rihanna is doing another album. If Rated R numbers were where she wanted it she wouldve milked it just like GGGB. So bringing her numbers up isnt solvong anything stans.

  89. Blu majiK March 10, 2010

    Didn’t they learn from P!nk? Oh well, I AWLAYS knew this man was shady!

  90. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    sweety if calling rihanna a flop makes me a hater, than ill be a hater s***..i ddont give a damn. unlike u stans i dont feel the need to kiss somebody ass and to be on their c*** 24/7, to make me feel good.
    ———————————————————————————————————————–

    in case you haven’t noticed you are on her c*** 24/7. and we are not worried, just posting the stats to prove that what you guys are saying is wrong. The point is that you guys ramble on making s*** up, so we have to hit you with the proof and the numbers to back up our statements. That don’t mean we’re worried, just proud of the good job our artist is doing. Our stat posting shouldn’t bother you, so what is the prob?

  91. FREE March 10, 2010

    actually the fame and the fame monster combine sold 10million..
    the fame alone sold 8 million by it self..
    check the facts..if u gonna make up s*** make sure the s*** ur saying cant be found..check billboard.com, check roling stone .com. the fame sold 8 mil by itself

  92. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    and @ newsflash haters..dont mater how much THE FAME SOLD the first week, first of all that was her first album, so she gets a pass. second the album now is 10 million.
    _____________________________________________________________________

    as usual spoken from a person who don’t know s***. This was not lady gaga AKA stephanie Germanotta’s first album. She was out before with an album and a band, and she was not successful. Until she transformed herself into the gimmicky Gaga, that is when she was finally noticed. SHe has been in the industry a while now, so of course she had time to get it right this time around. You all up in her ass, how does it smell?

  93. chrissy March 10, 2010

    Lol ccl u fail! Alicia sold 6 mil after promoting for a few monthts, while rih sold a mil+ after promoting for 3 YEARSssssssssssssss LMFAOoooooooo, can you imagine a 3 year promotion for ak. Talk abt delusinal stan its so sad!

  94. FREE March 10, 2010

    what stats are u guys are proving that we’re wrong….hell all the music sites like mtv, billboards wikipedia, rolling stone, all sayin the same thing we so call haters are saying..
    are they the one wos delusional??

  95. FREE March 10, 2010

    her ass smells all nice and fresh with her 10 million records sold world wide..
    how does rihanna flopped c****** smell..that the question..since u wanna go there.

  96. chrissy March 10, 2010

    A mil+ more**

  97. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    actually the fame and the fame monster combine sold 10million..
    the fame alone sold 8 million by it self..
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    and like I said before , it only sold 8 million based on the fact that the fame monster was released, and people rushed out and got the first one along with the second. The popularity of the fame only went up and increased after the release of the fame monster, which was supposed to be a re release, then they suddenly called it a new album. So whatever it is, it still took 2 albums to do it.

  98. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    how does rihanna flopped c****** smell..that the question..since u wanna go there.
    __________________________________________________________________

    The same way yours smell, if you want to go there.

  99. cvt March 10, 2010

    WHO CARES ABOUT RHIANNA??? HOWEVER I REALLY DON’T SEE AN ISSUE WITH HIM BEING EAGER TO SIGN JENNIFER.. JENNIFER CAN SALE AN ABLUM WITH HER PERFORMANCE .. I DON’T THINK THAT IT’S A BAD IDEA.. JENNIFER HAS BEEN HOT FOR YEARS PRE- BEYONCE.. SHE NEEDS THE RIGHT PUSH BEHIND HER AS WELL.

  100. Jagoperson March 10, 2010

    Mariah flopped, but you cannot shade Rihanna! Russian Roulette was a flop single in North America, but Hard wss not a flop, and Rude Boy is gonna be a huge hit plus she is working on a new album so DON’T SHADE RIRI!

  101. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @Newsflash haters — Do you REALLY think Def Jam would publicly admit such a thing? I don’t think so; much in the same way, CoverGirl didn’t formally announce their firing/terminating THEIR contract/relationship with Rihanna; it was more like: “Now you see it, now you don’t!!”

    Logic ONLY dictates that you, being Def Jam, given the atmosphere and public sentiment, regarding and surrounding Feb 8th Chrianna, would invest heavily in “Rated-R”! Why would you invest the same in Mariah? …It WAS Rihanna who was made saint-and-savior, was she not? …So ‘invest-vast-and-prodigious’ they-did, but ONLY-NOW, to have the results they NOW see; so-much-so, that the “man-at-the-helm”: L.A. Reid is NOW to loose HIS employment at said, Def Jam!

    Long-story short: “If Rihanna was the rousing-and-resounding success”, as y’all are making HER out to have had, said success would have spilled-over to “Brand-Rhianna”, and CoverGirl would NOT have ended their relationship with her!

    @Geronimo — They’ll be no slappy, sobby nor slobby story-book ending for Chrianna! Rihanna showed her a** in that 20/20 interview and what IS done, is NOW DONE!

    Matt K felt the “Rihanna-effect” when HIS past was “put-out-there,” immediately after being seen with Rihanna – on that boat in Mexico; L.A. Reid NOW-ails from “said-effect”, the ‘half-life of said-contagion’ will carry well-into the lore of pop culture!

  102. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    what stats are u guys are proving that we’re wrong….hell all the music sites like mtv, billboards wikipedia, rolling stone, all sayin the same thing we so call haters are saying..
    are they the one wos delusional??
    ________________________________________________________________

    Okay here are some examples.. You guys said, ain’t no one gone buy that rated R album, and she is going to flop in the first week and that she would never beat Gaga, she came out in the top 4 first week., and people have been consitently buying Rated R. Then you guys said she would never go platinum, she did that. Then you said she would get no hits off the album, she did that, with 2 hits so far. Everything you guys keep saying she can’t do she is doing, but still you come up with something else. The point is that no matter what rihanna do, haters like you will still try to find something else to b**** about. So yes you are delusional, in failing to give props where its due, and always trying to find a fault with everything.

  103. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    Newsflash haters — Do you REALLY think Def Jam would publicly admit such a thing? I don’t think so; much in the same way, CoverGirl didn’t formally announce their firing/terminating THEIR contract/relationship with Rihanna; it was more like: “Now you see it, now you don’t!!”
    ________________________________________________________________

    Well obviously if they are not admitting such a thing, why are you in such a rush to believe it? You seem to gobble up any information that would paint rihanna in a negative light. At least I am smart enough to wait on official word, before jumping to conclusions based on rumors. And cover girl didn’t announce when she was signing, so why should they annouce when the contract is up. The terms of the contract is between the two, so if rihanna’s contract is up its just up.

  104. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    Christina millians song leaked its called ” Nevermind” its hot… i dont know why they didnt give it to rihanna

  105. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @Newsflash Haters – Right, and that’s NOT a h*****-sore on her lip, that frequently reappears, it’s a “scar”, right? That “Rihanna-Reign” just won’t let up …Bwayahahahahaha..

    …Come here rude-boy, let me give some H*****, come here rude-boy let me give you some love; come here rude-boy, let me give you some valtrex….. No-worry rude-boy it’ll clear-it right up…

  106. MS.CLAY March 10, 2010

    Nicky22
    March 10, 2010 at 10:58 am
    TO PEOPLE WHO SAY RATED R HASNT COVERED THE COSTS

    RULES OF ECONOMICS:

    THAT STATEMENT WOULD BE VALID IF RIHANNA’S ALBUM SALES CAME TO A HALT

    THE UPFRONT COST AND MARKETING OF THE ALBUM HAS REMAINED CONSTANT……REVENUE IS WHAT CHANGES

    REVENUE – EXPENSES = PROFIT

    AS THE SALES CONTINUE TO INCREASE (ALBUM, SINGLE AND VIDEO SALES) PROFIT INCREASES

    CAN SOMEONE READ A BOOK PLEASE

    *************************************************************************************************

    Um, isn’t that what the articles are explaining??? The aritcle is explaining that LA Reid has [SPENT] and is [STILL SPENDING] too much money on the projects that aren’t bringing in enough profit or not even the same amount that was spent and currently being spent.

    And for the stans, where in Trent’s post did he say Rihanna’s album was a flop???

  107. chrissy March 10, 2010

    Rihanna is supposed to be a big megastar and compete with the best, yet her numbers cantt!! She sold 1. 6 mill and only abt 600,000 in the us with 4 sngles, 4 vids madd promo, etc. The ppl who claim her to be better than ( and some who had practically 0 promo) have done that in 2- 3 wks tops!! Lmao, its taking her 4 months! Plus still no number 1. Those are the FACTS!

  108. MS.CLAY March 10, 2010

    …Come here rude-boy, let me give some H*****, come here rude-boy let me give you some love; come here rude-boy, let me give you some valtrex….. No-worry rude-boy it’ll clear-it right up…
    ****************************************************************************************

    LMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

  109. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    @xyz, so when all logical and sound arguments fail, turn to the good ole h***** routine. I see you still in elementary school singing teasing rhymes. Even with her h***** sore, she’s still doing the damn thing, and pulling a fine beefcake while she’s at it. And still got people hating on her fine self. Imagine what she could do if she didn’t have that darn sore.

  110. FREE March 10, 2010

    @cold case love..the fame monster wasnt a re released of the fame.. u cant even make up s*** right…and im the dumb b****..ok
    lady gaga herself said it wasnt a re released all she did was add the fame cd to the fame monster cd in the same package…meaning they sold 2 different cd together.
    so ur comin at me callin me a dumb b**** an u cant even get ur story and facts right..
    why dont u take ur ghetto hoodrat self back to school, in fact go read a book..cause its obvious ur slow a** cant read…cause if u could read u would notice it says every where the fame and the fame monster is 2 seperate cds that were sold together. by 1 get one free deal.
    and u can list all the number 1 singles and rihanna stats its not gonna change her album sells..

  111. Raychel March 10, 2010

    @free @kings whoever you are learn how to type

  112. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @Newsflash haters — Come now; …see….that’s your problem: you need to get, a bit of fun, out of life!!

    K, tell YOU what, if RiRi promises to ‘shout-out’ her “Caribbean massive” during her sure-to -follow-stint with “Dancing with the Stars”, you’ll have my-word: they’ll be, no-more, “high-spirited adolescent-antics!”

    I”m just helping-her-along to her true-calling…

  113. FREE March 10, 2010

    @ news flash haters…..denial is a hell of a drug..hell i was actually one of the person that thought rihanna was gonna sell over 500k in her first week..
    so u saying that i tought she was gonna flop is bull.
    I actually like RATED R…but the problem i have is u stans making up s*** ang comin at me with the name calling because we not kissing rihannas a**..
    u were the one that thought that rihanna was gonna shut down all the haters..she gonna sell like crazy,,boy did she prove u stans wrong..
    an now u stans feel the need to make up excuses after the fact that she didn bring in big numbers.
    she didnt go platinum in the U.S
    and the majority of the countries she went platinum is that all u need is bout 20k to be platinum.

  114. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @Raychel – HHH-EEE-LLL-OOO Raychel…long time,’eh, Raychel? ….Missed ya! ; – 9

  115. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    Is it me? …That picture of L.A. Reid; if you scroll-up, tilt your head-squint your eyes – and have a quick-glance at it, he looks JUST LIKE a lawn-jockey, the one you see on the lawns of rich white-folk homes! ….No, for-real, try it, you’ll see! Maybe he can be the new pitch-man for a lawn-care company/service; maybe THEN discounting his-service for $0.99/hour, will drum-up sales…

  116. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    Does everyone here know that Raychel and RiRi both have the EXACT-SAME hair style? ….Of course, y’all MUST know that it was RiRi who jacked ‘our-beloved’ Raychel’s style…y’all KNOW how RiRi “get-down!”

  117. MS.CLAY March 10, 2010

    That picture of L.A. Reid; if you scroll-up, tilt your head-squint your eyes – and have a quick-glance at it, he looks JUST LIKE a lawn-jockey, the one you see on the lawns of rich white-folk homes!

    DDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!

    Its funny cuz he really does look like that!!!!!

  118. Jenny_Hitz March 10, 2010

    I love Mimi’s album ..personally not sure why its not selling that much…Im loving “Angels’ Cry” and “Ribbon”…Nicki Minaj (up Out My Face) is just gr8!…I dun understand y???
    Riri’s is gud too, I like “Te Amo”, “Rude Boy”….they both outta sell more…:(

  119. Ace March 10, 2010

    Taking a step back and not going in on Mariah and Rihanna’s album sales… what about LA REID- Seems to be his track record. While he was at Arista pretty much the same thing happened with Fantasia, Whitney, Annie Lennox, Luther Vandross, Ruben Studdard, and Barry Manilow…. Barry Manilow always sells records… not under LA REID. CONFUSING MUCH…. lol I dont know if LA has been cursed by some scorn kween but maybe he needs to call Babyface and take back LAFACE records, since PINK , Usher, and Ciara are still signed to the lable LOL.

    Okay taking two steps forward. Rihanna is right where she should be with this album. GGGB didnt really blow up when it was released it was after the countless hits that came from the album that pushed the album. Shes really on the mark when it comes to sales, because she has had 3 singles, all are hits on the charts, and she hasnt lost any of her popularity, even considering the little Ike & Tina incident. Im sure if she releases another single and remix or two she’ll be fine the album will continue to sell, because its good.

    NOW MIMI….ohhhh Mimi. Mariah’s main issue is that she boasts about this huge voice, her 5 octave range, her marvelous whistle register, and then delivers an album that could’ve easily been recorded by Britney Spears, Rihanna, or Kelis – AND thats NO SHADE/HATE to the previous listed because they do their thing in their field BUT none of them are THE LEGENDARY MARIAH CAREY…. hell she’s not even that anymore; she just Mimi. The song selection on her latest effort was immature and weak. The Dream hands down is one of the best producers and writers out right now, but something about this pairing is completely off. Being that he is who he is, granted, maybe 5 tracks make the album, but the entire album? UMMMM HELLLLLL TO THE NO. Say what you want about WH, she still singing enough to hear a crack and gurgle… Mariah…. she barely comes above a whisper and hasnt sung live since 2005. At 40yrs old, its time for Mariah to come of age; get a mature group of producers and writters and give us an adult album, and show off that range, and those octaves like you use to. Theres no reason for LEDSI to be completely singing circles around Mariah right now… Mariah used to be the s***…now she just sounds like some….SORRY —- DONT HATE ME I OWN(BROUGHT AND PAID FOR WITH ORIGINAL CASING) ALL OF MARIAHS ALBUMS (EVEN E=MC2 🙁 ) SO I love her but I cant stand her ass right now

  120. Tha Phoenix March 10, 2010

    CORRECTION: RR has SHIPPED 2.5 mill, but only SOLD 1.5… That is a flop for a star of Rhi’s stature. The record company have even admitted it. They put in so much money for, as yet, no profit. L.A Reid is also to blame for Mariah’s flop – he doesn’t know what he’s doing any more in a world that no longer relies on CD sales.

  121. Reasonable Voice March 10, 2010

    “The record company have even admitted it. They put in so much money for, as yet, no profit.”

    @tha phoenix

    )_________________

    Where did the record company say this?

    where is the proof that it hasn’t made a profit?

    anyone . . .

    Funny how her fans can break down FACTS about her sales, but her detractors can only offer speculation about her supposed commercial failure. Every week, the stans have new figures to offer about her chart positioning and sales tallies, but the haters keep singing the same tune.

  122. SEAN2010 March 10, 2010

    I’M SO GLAD JANET LEFT THAT LABEL!

    LA REID. IS FULL OF S***.

    TONI
    PINK
    JANET
    MARIAH
    RIHANNA

    HE JUST NEEDS TO GO.

  123. Nicky22 March 10, 2010

    LADY GAGA HAS SOLD 10 MILLION FROM 2 ALBUMS

    LMAO

    ITS NOT ONE ALBUM ……..LMAO……SORRY , EACH ALBUM IS A STAND ALONE ALBUM. SHE PUT 2 ALBUMS IN ONE, THATS WHY SHE’S STILL SELLING

    A RE-RELEASE IS ADDING 2 OR 3 ADDITIONAL SONGS LIKE RIHANNA GGGB.

    LADY GAGA PUT 9 NEW SONGS ( DEFINITION OF A STAND ALONE ALBUM)

  124. dardza-g March 10, 2010

    @ALEX
    the only persn who has to get his facts str8 z u. dd u bother readin the aricle above? it clearly says she’s sold 2.5milli units. wus wrng w u?
    yeh rihanna is being mishandled big tym!

  125. cool chick March 10, 2010

    i agree that Rihanna’s album should have performed better, since she is Rihanna if you know what i mean? But i wouldn’t call it a flop. Then again Russian Roulette was too damn depressing for a first single and Hard was a bullsh!t song IMO, so i guess that explains it. No one really gave a damn until Rude Boy

    Mariah is FLOP. no way around it lol

  126. Raychel March 10, 2010

    @ms clay I squinted and still couldn’t see that lol
    @xyz you won’t bring me down. Not today. Rude boy is doing excellent and I’m loving her album. I’m done complaining..rofl you Trent and Sam can stick it. I will like Rihanna no matter what and continue to request and prove y’all wrong. Heheehe POW!!!

  127. FREE March 10, 2010

    @raychel ..u still on my c*** huh…is calling me KING make ur ass feel better then go head…
    second i dont need to learn how to type, am not writing a damn english paper..
    third..I have a master degree in business, Ive already done the school thing..what the fugg are u doing beside being on my c*** and kissing rihanna a** 24/7?
    @newsflash haters…u can keep running ur mouth all day long its still aint gonna change rihanna stats. respond to my comments, again its still is not goin to change the fact that everybody else is going platinum in less than a month..an yet ur girl still cant catch a break in america.
    i’m waiting to see what u stans r gonna say when her next album flopp..whats gonna yall excuse this time?
    that its the haters fault? cause yall seem to blame everything on us HATERS..

  128. A.L.C. March 10, 2010

    I could care less about Rihanna & Mariah’s albums underperforming. The real problem is L.A. Reid’s mishandling of truly good albums like Amerie’s In Love & War and Karina Pasian’s First Love. How are u gonna sell anything when hardly anyone knows u have an album out? Good albums shouldn’t have abysmal sales like those 2 had (the 1st week totals for the two were awful). The content wasn’t a problem , especially with Karina’s album since it actually deserved it’s Grammy nomination from 09, but the single choices were questionable (“Heard Em All” for Amerie, and “Can’t Find The Words” for Karina).

    On The Other Side, L.A. needs to go just for turning Def Jam, one of Hip Hop’s most storied record labels into a creampuff label.

  129. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    CHRIS BROWN NEEDS OUT HELP ACCORDING TO NECOLE BITCHIE

    I ain’t never really did this but right now I need all of my fans help. A lot of radio stations aren’t playing my records. They are not being that supportive and I wouldn’t expect them to. It’s on the fans and what you guys do in your power to bring me back. That’s all I need is you guys and nothing else will do that except for the fans.

    I don’t know what else to say. It’s nothing else that I can do. I’m doing everything that I need to do. I’m doing me as a person and I’m a better guy.

    It’s on ya’ll. My singing and my music I do it for you guys and everything else but it won’t be possible if I’m not relevant on the radio and it wouldn’t be possible for me to be an artist if I don’t have the support. I can’t be an underground mixtape artist. That’s where we are. I just want all my fans to help me. I love ya’ll. Peace

    Read more: Necole Bitchie.com: Chris Brown Needs Help….
    GOOD LUCK CB

    NB: THERE IS A RECORDING OF HIM TOO

  130. Geronimo March 10, 2010

    but ryan seacrest sometimes plays cb songs lets help him our boy is very talented + we need to learn to forgive and forget, its been over a year now.

  131. FREE March 10, 2010

    Funny how her fans can break down FACTS about her sales, but her detractors can only offer speculation about her supposed commercial failure. Every week, the stans have new figures to offer about her chart positioning and sales tallies, but the haters keep singing the same tune…….

    the fans breaks down FACTS bout her sales? what ..u mean bogus facts..the majority of them doesnt even know how much GGGB sold and how much RATED R sold. they see a number and they run with it. case in point..even though it says every where that RATED R was shipped 2.4 NOT sold, shipped..they still on here bragging bout how the album sold 2.4 mil.. the album so far only sold 1.6 mil worlwide.. NOW THATS A FACT.
    again its 1 thing if rihanna was actually sellin than I would see y the stans r mad people hating on her.

  132. FREE March 10, 2010

    if people like Kelly, LAToya, Mya, Fantasia, sold 1.6 mil in over 3 months, yes it wouldnt considered to be a flop because they r not as big as rihanna.
    when mariah carey sold the same amount rihanna is selling now, why was it considered to be a flop then? since u stans on here saying rihanna sold well.
    if yall wanna get technical bout it, yes she sold well..she sold better than gggb on the first week thats bout it. my point is stans u guys on here bragging bout rihanna is the best, shes a bad bish, then how come shes not bringin in bad bish numbers?
    why does it takes her 3 months to sell 1.6mil when other artist who just came out selling 2 mill in 3 weeks?

  133. Kevin March 10, 2010

    Mariah hasn’t done any performances publicly, the promo for Mimi is sooooooooooooooo much less than Rated R. Rihanna performed at the AMA’S and Kids Choice Awards, Mariah’s only done some night shows.

  134. Kevin March 10, 2010

    @Ace

    Mariah used 4.5 octaves on Memoirs, you know…that’s noting close to Britney, or Rihanna for that matter.

    Though I do agree, the whispery singing needs to be toned. And I 100% agree with your thoughts on The Dream. He’s good, but is better suited to pop stars (Rihanna, Beyonce) instead of the best voice in the business.

  135. Tha Phoenix March 10, 2010

    @ReasonableVOice – google it. That’s why she’s doing a new album out in June. I personally thought Rated R was a sick album – though I preferred GGGB. Overall, ppl didn’t seem to get it – Rude Boy, as I’ve always said, appears more suited to GGGB which was a lighter, poppier sound – something ppl seem to prefer to hear from RHi. And that’s why it’s doing a lot better than Hard, Russian Roulette etc.

    You can’t even call that hating, I’m just stating facts.

  136. firstweek March 10, 2010

    first week sales are everything, they can make you or break you(make you look like a flop) rihanna only sold 180,000 copies her first week, her singles top the charts and she was in the media everyday after the chris brown scenario. i thought she’d at least do 200,000. keyshia coles last album sold 300,000 first week and she’s not being snapped by the papparrazi everyday.

  137. Raychel March 10, 2010

    @free rofl whatever, continue to argue on Thatgrapejuice while I study to major on communications and do something with my life :p

  138. Mr.727 March 10, 2010

    The major issue with Reid is that he stop giving a damn about the music when he stared making all of the money! Back in the day he and Babyface was bringing in the hit, they cared about the music! Now he really give a f*** less about any of his artist as long as he is getting paid, then why should he cared! I think the two problems lie with both the producers and the artist!

  139. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    newsflash haters…u can keep running ur mouth all day long its still aint gonna change rihanna stats. respond to my comments, again its still is not goin to change the fact that everybody else is going platinum in less than a month..an yet ur girl still cant catch a break in america.
    i’m waiting to see what u stans r gonna say when her next album flopp..whats gonna yall excuse this time?
    that its the haters fault? cause yall seem to blame everything on us HATERS
    ********************************************************************************************
    Damn you still rambling on, when I took a break, watched oprah, cooked dinner, watch a little tv, and your ass is still stuck on the same topic. I must have touched a nerve, because when you didn’t get a response from me on your first post, you had to hail me up again. Alright I see you. Okay. How convienient is it for you to now say that Rihanna is as Big as Mariah, and Beyonce and stuff. Why don’t you make up your mind. First you say she’s not on their level, and she is not as big yada yada yada, now suddenly she’s this big star that should have been brining in Whitney and Mariah’s numbers. You talk from both sides of your mouth, and no one here is making any excuses for rihanna regarding any haters, we are just stating our opinions, like you are doing yours, so when the hell did we blame any haters for anything having to do with rihanna? We don’t expect you guys to even have an impact on her, because you guys didn’t contribute to her getting to where she is today, so why the hell would we blame you guys when you clearly aren’t relevant to rihanna. All you do is run your mouth about her all day everyday, and that is as far as your contribution goes. SHe didn’t need you and your other posse of haters to sell her first 3 records and she don’t need you all now. We got her back and that’s all that counts.

  140. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @Raychel — We’re ONLY trying to help you; we got your back! …Rihanna jacked your hairstyle and, god-only-knows what-else! …We know you’re too shy to speak-up ’bout it, so I’ll do it for you, K?

    I’ll even go-the-extra-mile for you, Ms. Raychel – see what nice-folks we are, over here on, Thatgrapejuice.net? …And after all-of-this-time, you were ‘talking-bad’ ’bout Trent, Sam and myself….tisk-tisk!! K, so what I’m gonna do – for YOU, Ms. Raychel, is to write a letter to Def Jam/L.A. Reid

    Here’s an excerpt/first draft:

    Dear Def Jam/L.A. Reid –

    Y’ALL A- BUNCH-A CROOKS!!! Y’all wouldn’t know talent if it grew horns and a tail, and did a rain-dance! Y’all mismanaged a bunch of artists, and mucked-up their careers! Y’all should have spent some of the funds y’all squandered, in promoting that “Rated-R mess,” and gave L.A. Reid a facelift: dude looks like a lawn jocky that just joined the Nation of Islam!

    When are y’all gonna give some of your artists, cough (rihanna) some singing/dancing lessons? …And while you’re at it, why NOT send her to church, so she can stop “thiefing for a living?” …Did y’all know that she’s over-here, on thatgrapejuice.net, stealing Raychel’s hairstyle? …And WHY DID y’all sign HER in-the-first-place? Rihanna must give some good head…she “swallows”, is that it?

    …And regarding y’all funding – the making and promotion of that “Rated-R” non-sense – can y’all front RiRi some loot…..say $30K? I know she just bought (cough rented) a $10 million home, but that law suit for ‘theft-for-service’, that her personal trainer, has NOW filed against her – is NOT a ‘good-look’, you know? …So lend her/front – the funds; y’all know RiRi can “work it off” in no-time; she’s been doing her “clamp-it-shut-and-watch-HIM-nut” exercises; her Vajayjay is tighter than a Auntie Vivica’s face and meaner than ‘YT’ at a “tea-party/anti-obama” political rally…..

    Con’t….

  141. YouPutTheLimeInTheCoconut March 10, 2010

    Wasn’t LA Reid also involved in TLC’s bankruptcy back in ’95/’96? It’s about time somebody called his ass out on his s***.

  142. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    @xyz did you hear your boy Chris begging for stans to support him. Instead of worrying about rihanna, head on over to Christopher weekly and hit ole boy up. He need your help.

  143. Ben March 10, 2010

    Wow, I didn’t know he was the culprit behind it. I am not concerned too much on Rihanna’s behalf, but I do remember back in 2008 when Def Jam slept on Janet and MC’s releases. I bought both of those albums and I thought they were great. Many people who say that they weren’t good probably just didn’t buy it. But labels just shouldn’t do that to artists that have 20+ years in the industry. MC’s MEMOIRS is actually a really good album, it is just a really good R&B album, but it still could have been promoted well though, because it is MC. Def Jam is a weak link in the music industry now. At the moment, all they have is Rihanna as a bread winner, and her success is not poppin’ like it was back in 07-08. When your album has only been out 4 months and you have already put out 4 singles and 4 videos, something is wrong. But overall, 2009 was a bad year for music anyways, hasn’t been that bad since 2005.

  144. X,Y,”and Z” March 10, 2010

    @Newsflash Haters — They’re blacklisting his music; but what-else is new! From what I understand, he’s asking for HIS-fans, to write into the radio-stations, and request HIS music.

    ….You should understand that, no? I mean, Rihanna’s music is garbage and she’s STILL getting airplay; I’m SURE that’s ‘Jay Z’s REACH-in-full-effect!’ …So low-sales or no, the Rihanna PR team is well-oiled, and always at-the-ready!
    …But, I have a question for YOU, since YOU brought-up the topic: did YOU (Rihanna-robots) write to CoverGirl and try to convince ’em to reinstate/rehire HER, as THEIR “Fresh New Face?”

    How bout her personal trainer, that’s NOW suing HER for $30K for theft of HER services? Why NOT, as a Rihanna supporter/fan/Stan, write to her and ask her to drop her lawsuit against your mentor/employer/idol? I mean, the purchase of that wonderful $10 million home, viewed in-the-light-of this “law-suit-revelation” isn’t a good-look, you know?
    So get on YOUR J-O-B, sharpen your pencils and never-mind the hand cramps and get-to-writing, K?

    X,Y,”and Z” — OUT!

  145. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    Newsflash Haters — They’re blacklisting his music; but what-else is new! From what I understand, he’s asking for HIS-fans, to write into the radio-stations, and request HIS music.
    ____________________________________________________________________

    You see what I’m saying, you believe everything you hear. Try to filter the truth from the untruth sometimes okay. It just may help. Chris has been using that black listing excuse from since the day his album failed to take off. He said stores were black listing him, now its the radio stations. Next thing you know, he will blame Oprah or Tyra saying they did him in. Please, this is just an attempt to try to blame others for his lack of sales. He needs to just realize that in some peoples eyes, he will never be the same. And stop trying to blame others. and for the record, rihanna’s music is way better than Chris’s. The only thing he got on lock is his dancing skills. I will give him that.

  146. newsflash haters March 10, 2010

    But, I have a question for YOU, since YOU brought-up the topic: did YOU (Rihanna-robots) write to CoverGirl and try to convince ‘em to reinstate/rehire HER, as THEIR “Fresh New Face?”
    ___________________________________________________________________

    You see we don’t have to write in, because our artist is not taking to blogs to beg for help to keep her afloat. She is doing it on her own accord. She don’t need to be rehired, because she got other business deals in the making, and Cover Girl is old news, her contract has been fullfilled, and she is moving on to bigger and better things. It seems like you miss seeing her or something? Were you this concerned when you boy got dropped from doublemint? maybe you should have written in then.

  147. rightround(U.S.A pride!) March 10, 2010

    Rihanna stans alerrrrrrrrrrt!
    lmao they are so nervous to see/read that Rated R has been “mishandled” because they refuse to believe that the album is doing below what was expected. It’s obvious Def Jam put WAY more money into it than they are getting back now. Ohh well.

  148. boytoy1814 March 10, 2010

    I’M SOOOOO GLAD LA REID IS GETTING HIS ASS SET ON FIYAAAAH !!! BURN BABY BURN ……………………PIECE OS SHYT !!

    FYI: MARIAH CAN’T SING ANYMORE………………………………THE 5 OCTAVE VOICE IS DEAD & GONE !!

    IF U THINK I’M LYIN GO & YOUTUBE MARIAH SINGING AT MICHAEL JACKSON’S MEMORIAL SERVICE.

    ONE WORD FOR RIHANNA……………………………………………………………………………………………EDIT !

  149. X,Y,”and Z” March 11, 2010

    @newsflash haters — Listen, in-the-long-run; at-the-end-of-the-day, REAL TALENT, coupled with that intangible, indefinable and undeniable thing called the ‘IT-factor’ will ALWAYS shine-through! Chris HAS talent, charisma and that said-aforementioned quality! Rihanna has neither “IT” nor the slightest-inkling what “IT” was-OR-is!

    Now I’m firmly convinced that HIS prior-protestations WERE firmly-based in the truth! Billboard recently voted HIM in the top 10 most-s*** men for 2009; he is STILL getting a great reaction from fans, I offer you his recent “Relief for Haiti” appearance/performance – as example, AND his sold out – limited venue – Fan Appreciation Tour! I’ll say, yet again, there’s NO artist, who can command-a-stage, as he can – NOT A ONE! …Trey Songz, you say? …Ha! That dude has two-left feet and he CAN’T SING! If you can’t sing, you gotta dance, if you can’t sing NOR dance, you better have “IT”; and “that-Trifecta”, Trey Songz IS surely-without!

    …Oh, and to address your concerns with CBreezy talking-directly with/to HIS fans, let me ask you this: when we saw Rihanna ‘prancing-about’, her face stacked-inches deep in make-up, during the run of her – NOW LONG GONE – CoverGirl Commercials, wasn’t SHE pandering to HER fans?
    …If Chris’ music isn’t being played, due to the bias, racism and bigotry well-shown during ALL of 2009, then why shouldn’t HE talk-out ’bout it? Why shouldn’t HE sound-the-alarm?

    Didn’t Rihanna feel-compelled to talk directly to ‘her-public’, and any-and-all, who’d listen, during her NOW-infamous 20/20 interview? …She didn’t let a ‘little-thing’ called the truth, get in the way of “HER-story-telling”, now did she? …Of course NOT, and if Mrs. Sawyer didn’t inquire ’bout those “Prior-instances of abuse/Her passing out, her getting choked-out”, the common-decency-we ALL posses, which Rihanna obviously lacks, would have compelled us to ‘deny and shoot-down’ the rumors, lies and hysteria surrounding “Feb 8th Chrianna” long-before said interview; and soon-after said hysterics began to be spoken!

    Once-again, you “Rihanna-Creeps” twist-the-truth, but ONLY to hide y’all savage, self-serving and thoroughly-hypocritical reality: “Chris Brown’s music is NOT getting airplay, and he is asking his fans, WHO AGREE with him, to write-in to their local radio stations and request that HIS music get played!

    But what a disingenuous, ignoble and corrupt-lot you “Rihanna-Cretans” are: Twisting the truth, casting-doubt and rumor-mongering ONLY to out-talk, shout-down and throw-shade-at the truth, and those who speak said-reality!

    I, X,Y,”and Z” had NEVER LIED, I’ve NEVER exaggerated NOR luxuriated-in-rumor – I don’t have to, truth IS stranger than fiction!

    X,Y,”and Z” — OUT!

  150. X,Y,”and Z” March 11, 2010

    @Newsflash Haters — Listen, in-the-long-run; at-the-end-of-the-day, REAL TALENT, coupled with that intangible, indefinable and undeniable thing called the ‘IT-factor’ will ALWAYS shine-through! Chris HAS talent, charisma and that said-aforementioned quality! Rihanna has neither “IT” nor the slightest-inkling what “IT” was-OR-is!

    Now I’m firmly convinced that HIS prior-protestations WERE firmly-based in the truth! Billboard recently voted HIM in the top 10 most-s*** men for 2009; he is STILL getting a great reaction from fans, I offer you his recent “Relief for Haiti” appearance/performance – as example, AND his sold out – limited venue – Fan Appreciation Tour! I’ll say, yet again, there’s NO artist, who can command-a-stage, as he can – NOT A ONE! …Trey Songz, you say? …Ha! That dude has two-left feet and he CAN’T SING! If you can’t sing, you gotta dance, if you can’t sing NOR dance, you better have “IT”; and “that-Trifecta”, Trey Songz IS surely-without!

    …Oh, and to address your concerns with CBreezy talking-directly with/to HIS fans, let me ask you this: when we saw Rihanna ‘prancing-about’, her face stacked-inches deep in make-up, during the run of her – NOW LONG GONE – CoverGirl Commercials, wasn’t SHE pandering to HER fans?
    …If Chris’ music isn’t being played, due to the bias, racism and bigotry well-shown during ALL of 2009, then why shouldn’t HE talk-out ’bout it? Why shouldn’t HE sound-the-alarm?

    Didn’t Rihanna feel-compelled to talk directly to ‘her-public’, and any-and-all, who’d listen, during her NOW-infamous 20/20 interview? …She didn’t let a ‘little-thing’ called the truth, get in the way of “HER-story-telling”, now did she? …Of course NOT, and if Mrs. Sawyer didn’t inquire ’bout those “Prior-instances of abuse/Her passing out, her getting choked-out”, the common-decency-we ALL posses, which Rihanna obviously lacks, would have compelled us to ‘deny and shoot-down’ the rumors, lies and hysteria surrounding “Feb 8th Chrianna” long-before said interview; and soon-after said hysterics began to be spoken!

    Once-again, you “Rihanna-Creeps” twist-the-truth, but ONLY to hide y’all savage, self-serving and thoroughly-hypocritical reality: “Chris Brown’s music is NOT getting airplay, and he is asking his fans, WHO AGREE with him, to write-in to their local radio stations and request that HIS music get played!

    But what a disingenuous, ignoble and corrupt-lot you “Rihanna-Cretans” are: Twisting the truth, casting-doubt and rumor-mongering ONLY to out-talk, shout-down and throw-shade-at the truth, and those who speak said-reality!

    I, X,Y,”and Z” had NEVER LIED, I’ve NEVER exaggerated NOR luxuriated-in-rumor – I don’t have to, truth IS stranger than fiction!

    X,Y”and Z” — OUT!

  151. Miss Lala March 11, 2010

    Theres more cr@p music to be put out there by LA Reid. He’s just signed UK act N-Dubz, they will actually make your ears BLEED. Going by the state of current music, they should actually do well. But if your a fan of REAL music, you will hate this group.

  152. kekeluvsu March 11, 2010

    What ppl fail to realize is that L.A. Reid has been misusing and manhandling artist for years now. His motto is “If you don’t do it my way, then your ass doesn’t get promoted” and if you do do it his way, like somebody else says he does based off name and not quality. He has ALWAYS worked that way and he should have been called out a looooooooooooong time ago. “What goes around come around” I would say this sucks for him and I feel bad, but in all honesty I’m glad this happened to his grimy ass ➡

  153. Just Frank March 11, 2010

    The days of big producers and huge music production houses is over. With technology creating a solid shared society the new artists will have to find a cheap way to get their product to the market through their own record companies and then make all their money abroad doing concerts for crazy amounts of jack. Lots of money can be made if you can get your songs to reasonably hit charts in other countries.

    2.5 million records is a lot of records these days. Those are easily records that would be close to 8-10 million sold back before Napster and rampant MP3 sharing.

    Just build a bridge and get over it. Society is reforming as we speak and so is music and the way it is brought to market and the profit(s) made in the form of slave labor from the artists.

    I’m glad he’s failing. The system has always failed the artist and now they are getting their revenge.

  154. Reasonable Voice March 11, 2010

    @THA Phoenix

    How are you stating facts without sources?

    “Google It”

    No, that’s not how it works. You’re supposed to link to a source to prove to a point if you want to substatiate your claims. Talk of an upcoming album doesn’t mean that the label didn’t make profit off of the old one. Show me where the label said that they didn’t make a profit off of Rated R.

    @Lime in Coconut

    “Wasn’t LA Reid also involved in TLC’s bankruptcy back in ‘95/’96? It’s about time somebody called his ass out on his s***.”

    He and Babyface were responsible for that. Remember their old imprint LaFace? I think that may have been Pink’s first label as well.

  155. vegasgirl March 11, 2010

    If L.A. Reid is fired it is because of years of missteps and miscalculations, not just Mariah and Rihanna. Even if he is fired, he probably will land right at another label. About Chris Brown pleading for airplay, he needs to, if people are refusing to play his music ( which I don’ t know to be true) he should call for his troops. All artist plead for us to buy their music ( go out and cop my album–sound familiar? Now just insert EVERY ARTIST NAME there.) I occasionally read Rihanna Daily ( her new official website)and she doesn’t beg, but her fans do. Pleading that members call and request Rude Boy is essentially the same thing, it’s just not the artists doing it, its the fans. Doesn’t every ones fans do similar things?

  156. vegasgirl March 11, 2010

    The record sale arguement is strange because there are speculation and truth everywhere. Mariah’s album hasn’t done well, but I believe it lays at her feet because she chose those songs to sing. She has an established fanbase but they don’t love the direction she’s been going in for a long time. Rihanna’s sales I think are a bit more complicated. Rated R is selling faster but I have seen her CD being sold for less than $10 at various retailers on and off since her album release ( I think she is selling for more now). I’ve seen other artists doing this too, but some like Ms. Spears don’t really do this too much.

    This could affect Def Jam’s profits because someone not making as much $$ selling the CD at a low cost. If there is no additional profit to be made then why not sell all CD’s below $10 all the time? So the number of CD’s being sold may be higher, but the profits may not equal sales, that may contribute to the L.A. Reid stuff, but who knows. Artists cost money and they are expected to pay it back , period. I know L.A. reid is under pressure, he said so in Vibe magazine, so any percieved failures will always fall at his feet.

  157. ha March 11, 2010

    If you go to over 7 million ww to 2 million ww sounds like a flop to me….

  158. newsflash haters March 11, 2010

    Newsflash Haters — Listen, in-the-long-run; at-the-end-of-the-day, REAL TALENT, coupled with that intangible, indefinable and undeniable thing called the ‘IT-factor’ will ALWAYS shine-through! Chris HAS talent, charisma and that said-aforementioned quality! Rihanna has neither “IT” nor the slightest-inkling what “IT” was-OR-is!

    Now I’m firmly convinced that HIS prior-protestations WERE
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    wHAT REAL TALENT? singing like a pre- pubecent boy. Please his voice range is about as much as my 8 year old. Please the boy can’t sing all that well. You guys want to call rihanna out on her singing, but her tone of voice is much stronger than his, and he is supposed to be a man. He sounds more like a whiny alvin from the chipmunks. Please. Stop trying to make him out to be more than he is. His record sales proves that he thought he was bigger, but the numbers let you know he is easily forgotten and someone else can easily take his place. People like Jason Derulo, who is already at the top of the charts, and our boy Trey Songz, with his banging hits he been delivering. Where exactly does Chris fit into this picture?

  159. rbj1906 March 11, 2010

    No One can turn chicken crap into chicken salad…people please stop the madness!!!!!

  160. CEECEE March 11, 2010

    LISTEN UP RIHANNA’S CD IS NOT A FLOP IT’S ONLY SEEN AS A FLOP BECASUE OF THE ALBUMS DIRECTION! IT’S A DARK ALBUM PEOPLE NOWDAYS DON’T LIKE THE DEVLISH SLIT YOUR RIST TYPE SONGS THEY PREFER MORE UP TEMPO LADY GAGA LIKEE SONGS HENCE WHY RUDE BOY IS DOING WELL AS ITS ONE OF THE FEW THAT ARE CATCHY AND UP BEAT. RIHANNA SED SHE’LL RELEASE A NEW UPTEMPO ALBUM BY SUMMER SO IM SURE IT’LL MAKE UP!!! RATED-R IS A GOOD ALBUM ITS JUST NOT EVERYONES CUP OF TEA 😉 SOOO YEAH …IM NO RIHANNA STAN BUT HEY HAVE CALL EM OUT HOW IT IS!!! ON THE OTHER HAND SAME GOES FOR MC MEMOIRS IS FULL OF BALLADS WICH NOWDAYS DON’T DO WELL UNLESS IT’S OVER GOOD BUT I DON’T LIKE MC SO I CUDNT CARE!

  161. Tha Phoenix March 11, 2010

    @reasonablevoice…

    This is where having a high IQ comes in handy. There is no possible reason why a label would choose to bring out two new LPs from an artist in the space of a year, unless the first isn’t bringing in a profit. That is just basic common sense.

    Again, quite a few ppl have said they don”t like the darker Rihanna – I personally preferred the lighter, GGGB one. And, yes Rated R was a very good album – but it isn’t selling as well as they’d hoped, or they wouldn’t be going for a ‘lighter’ sound, let alone bringing out an entirely new album. When I first heard they were, I was like ‘reall?’ cause I heard that RR was doing well.

    Then I checked facts, and found out Def Jam thought it was underselling, – for an artist of Rhi’s stature – having only sold 1.6 mill worldwide in four months. That”s only 400,000 a month on average. She’s one of the biggest artists in the world, arguably, yet RR has sold fewer copies than The Fame Monster (Gaga is a newer artist, so it makes you think there’s something wrong there).

    Regardless, L.A. Reid should be fired. His time has come, and I personally think he should be replaced with Jermaine Dupri.

  162. ANONYMOUS March 11, 2010

    @NICKY BOY… OBVIOUSLY UR REVENUE MODEL AINT WORKIN. BESIDES, NO ONE HIRED YOU AT DEF JAM, GENIUS… SO STFU.

    WOW, LOVE ALL THESE F***** SO-CALLED ARM CHAIR ANALYST BUT CANT DEAL WITH REALITY. TAKE AN ACCOUNTING COURSE LATELY? OF COURSE NOT… U SOUND LIKE SOMEONE THAT CANT DEAL IN REALITY. BOTTOM LINE DEF JAM IS A MESS AND I HIGHLY DOUBT BRINGING U IN WILL SOLVE ANYTHING EXCEPT A WASTE OF TOILET PAPER. TRUTH.

  163. Reasonable Voice March 11, 2010

    @THA PHOENIX

    Wow, what a tantrum. So what you’re really saying is that you couldn’t find a credible source that specifically stated that Def Jam did not profit off of Rated R. Gee, why am I not surprised? “Disappointing sales” does not mean a loss. It could very well only mean disappointing in comparison to the last album. If you had better powers of critical reasoning, consideration of that scenario would not have eluded you. Talk of a new album is simply that, talk; unless you can prove otherwise (which you can’t seem to do or you would have done it by now).

    Anyone can make inferences as you just have. Finding evidence to substantiate your claims is another matter entirely. Even Crazy-@ss XYand Z throws up links. Retailers have already bought 2.6 million copies, regardless of whether or not it’s individually sold a million less than that, and unless her sales come to a screeching halt, there’s no reason to believe that when all’s said and done that the album won’t eventually sell 2.6 million copies. Why don’t you do yourself a favor, stop stalling, and FIND A LINK TO A SOURCE THAT PROVES THAT DEF JAM HAS NOT PROFITTED OFF OF RATED R.

  164. X,Y,”and Z” March 11, 2010

    @Newsflash Haters — Gee, let’s see…..there’s HIS songwriting – he co-wrote “Disturbia”, one of Rihanna’s best-sellers, he has co-produced and co-wrote songs on HIS CDs, that went Platinum; no-one said he’s the second-coming of Luther Vandros! But what he lacks-in-a-voice, he more-than makes-up in the way of dancing and stage-presence!

    …So, in keeping with YOUR comparing, “your precious RiRi” – to CBreezy: Has Rihanna EVER been in-front-of-a-camera (MOVIE), besides her “selling-p****” as witnessed on/in HER music videos? Has Rihanna EVER wrote ANY top 10 songs? HELL, she didn’t even graduate High School, how in the hell is SHE going to even write her name?
    Let’s NOT talk Stage-Presence…don’t-go-there; your feelings WILL get hurt!
    Let’s NOT talk dancing, I’ve said before, and I’ll say, ad-nausea, CBreezy is the-most, BY-FAR, talented artist current and out-on the horizon – PERIOD!

    But “tour-time” is when artists’ make-their-loot, and we’ll see, just-who, will ‘draw-the- crowds’ and which artist’s fans will leave his/her concert fully-satiated, with a feeling that THEY got THEIR monies-worth!

  165. newsflash haters March 11, 2010

    So, in keeping with YOUR comparing, “your precious RiRi” – to CBreezy: Has Rihanna EVER been in-front-of-a-camera (MOVIE), besides her “selling-p****” as witnessed on/in HER music videos? Has Rihanna EVER wrote ANY top 10 songs? HELL, she didn’t even graduate High School, how in the hell is SHE going to even write her name
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    In answer to you question, yes she has been in front of a camera in a Movie, she was in Bring it on. Yes she has wrote top ten songs on Rated R. And she may not have graduated High school, but the education she got in Barbados up until 16 would make the American School system look like a daycare. IN case you don’t know, Barbados has one of the highest rates of Literacy in the world. @ 99% and their educational system is tops. Go research and get some info on Barbados and its education. So rihanna is well educated and proves so by the way she speaks compared to your boy Chris who can’t even string a sentence together and he’s a supposed graduate.

  166. X,Y,”and Z” March 11, 2010

    @Newsflash Barbados – Do YOU know Christ Church? I know Christ Church. Have you EVER did morning walks on Miami Beach? I have! What makes you think I don’t know Barbados? …And I happen to know that they’re more-British THAN-the British!

  167. sue September 25, 2010

    do guys wonna know why mariah carey album flop? well i when to see her old video clips one yutube and there are so many fans of her who are asking her to go sing the way she use to in the 90..half of them see they don,t like the new mariah and the new song,s .they even sead that some of them swich to an other artist becouse they don,t like her new style.mariah carey lost allot of fanbace becouse of her new style.mariah is someone who use to sell more then 47 million cd in the first weeks.and now she is pulling in les then 2,million. not that she need it becouse mariah network in worth more then 400 million.and she is still getting royalties from her albums that she made in the 90 so no matter what happend mariah carey is set for life.but personal i like the old mariah carey more i wish she would drop the R&B style and go back to her pop song,s

  168. Richard James March 17, 2011

    It’s simple poor management “End of Story” like many managers looking for the easy quick buck, think about it Mariah one of the biggest female artists in history has failed to sell 500,000 records? Yet the reality singer Susan Boyle sold 14million last year, no disrespect to Susan, this guy is a lazy slob that simply wants to sit on his fat a*** counting cash….

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