Beyonce Producer Addresses Accusations Surrounding Her Songwriting

Published: Saturday 10th Jul 2010 by Sam

For all her success, Beyonce has found herself subject to increasing murmurings surrounding her song-writing (or lack-thereof ). In a recent interview with our friends over at Bossip, ‘Diva’ producer Bangladesh was grilled on whether the ‘Single Ladies’ singer actually writes the songs she receives writing credits for.

His response was ‘interesting’ to say the least. Check out what he had to say after the jump…

I’ll put it like this: it doesn’t matter who is writing or producing the songs. Who is delivering them, is what matters. It doesn’t matter if Beyonce is there physically writing the song. I mean even if she’s not, it doesn’t mean that she can’t. It might be a case of her not having time or whatever.

People from the outside looking in want to know whether or not she writes her own songs, she’s on a level where things are handed to her…people want to be a part of what she’s doing. She either wrote it or can put her name on it….because that’s the boss she is. {Source}

If ever there was a case of pouring fuel on the fire! Certainly no need for outright confirmation after that…LOL! That said, his response, while funny, is hardly surprising.

Folk get so invested in the surface side of the industry that they oft forget that the music industry is very much a business. Perhaps not the typical 9-5, but a business nonetheless. As cut-throat as it sounds, alot of this ‘does she/doesn’t she’ drama boils down to money; for it’s highly doubtful Ms. Knowles-Carter would be topping Forbes fortune lists and whatnot, had her name not been credited as a writer – regardless of whether she wrote on the songs or not. Whether this is a good or bad thing boils down to one’s own moral standing. However, I urge folk to ask themselves if they would do the same if in Bouncy’s position.

In any case, Papa Knowles made sure Beyonce and Destiny’s Child’s pockets were (and continue to be) well taken care of. Indeed, anyone who knows the music biz knows that most of the $$$ an artist will make comes from publishing/writing credits, as well as touring – both platforms Beyonce does not play around when it comes to. Joe Jackson reincarnated or not, ol’ Matty sure knows what he’s doing by having her name credited as a writer on almost every song she’s recorded as a solo artist and with Destiny’s Child.

That said, there are bound to be those giving Beyonce serious side-eye after reading Bangladesh’s comments. However, from my standpoint, she just about gets a pass for a two potent of reasons: a) there remains no concrete proof that she doesn’t write (it’s simply a known unknown) and b) she is undeniably one of the biggest all-round talents to emerge in many years. Hence it almost doesn’t matter…or does it?

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  1. Kyus93 July 10, 2010

    You all know DAMN WELL she doesn’t write those songs. I still like her though 🙂

  2. MARQUEST July 10, 2010

    DOSEN’T MATTER F ALL THE HATER SHE STILL GETTIN PAID LOL QUEEEEEEENNNNNN BBBBBBBB WHOOOOOO MADDDDDD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ….. GET YOUR SHINE WHILE THE QUEEN REST CAUSE 2011 SHE SNATCHING ALL WIGS …….

  3. Beyonce Stan July 10, 2010

    it clearly doesnt matter. this is a useless as post..

    stfu and get over it

  4. DPP July 10, 2010

    Honestly, I could care less who wrote the damn song. She has a lot of other things to bag up her talent. Songwriting would be a plus though. (shrugs)

  5. Jashaun July 10, 2010

    Really Sam……An Essay on a never ending issue that has no proof..Just Speculation

  6. AKisdabest July 10, 2010

    he dodged the question so quick! but i would to if i was him…still gotta keep your business partners

  7. BeyonceSoldier July 10, 2010

    I don’t care who wrote it. I only care about the producer and the singer. And there is no proof whether she does write it or not. And if these songwriters letting Matthew give Bey their credit… they need their ass kicked.

  8. Blasian July 10, 2010

    “….because that’s the boss she is” LOVES IT!

  9. Kenney July 10, 2010

    OK SHE DID NOT WRITE ANY OF HER CURRENT MUSIC.

    SHE WROTE HER DANGEROUSLY IN LOVE ALBUM AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HER SONG WRITING OF DIL, B’DAY TO IASF. YOU CAN TELL THAT SHE DID NOT WRITE IAMSF. I DON’T THINK SHE’S THAT CREATIVE.

    AS MAKING THAT COMMENT “SHE CAN PUT HER NAME ON THE SONG CREDITS EVEN IF SHE DIDN’T WRITE IT BECAUSE SHE’S THE BOSS” IS A SLAP IN THE FACE FOR EVERYBODY WHO WRITES THEIR OWN MUSIC AND IT TAKES THEM AT LEAST A GOOD YEAR OR 2 TO WRITE THEIR OWN MUSIC THEN HERE COMES BEYAWNCE TAKING SONG WRITING CREDITS THAT DON’T EVEN BELONG TO HER AND WHY? BECAUSE SHE’S THE BOSS?

    THAT’S A LOAD OF B******* AND i HAVE COMPLETELY LOST MY RESPECT FOR THE ENTIRE KNOWLES CLAN AND BANGLADESH AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WORKS WITH BEYAWNCE.

    EVEN IF SHE’S WORTH A NIFTY PENNY, IF I WERE TO EVER WRITE A SONG FOR BEYAWNCE ONE DAY, I DON’T CARE HOW MUCH MONEY IS OFFERED TO ME FOR HER NAME TO BE PUT ON SOMETHING SHE DIDN’T EVEN WRITE, I WILL GET A CERTIFIED TOP NOTCH SECURITY COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT PUT ON MY CREDITS SO THAT NOBODY CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR SOMETHING I WROTE, ESEPCIALLY BEYAWNCE!

  10. MARQUEST July 10, 2010

    I DONT CARE WHAT YOU HATER (THATGRAPEJUICE) IS SAYING SHE STILL GETTIN PAID …. HA HA SHE WIN AND YOU LOSE QUEEEN B

  11. EXPOSED July 10, 2010

    EPIC FAIL!! BEYAAWNCE IS A TRUE SWAGGER JACKER OFTHE UPTEENTH LEVEL!!!! SOME “DIVA” SHE IS… KARMA IS A B****. I KNEW SHE WASNT AS “CLEAN” AS SHE MAKES HERSELF OUT TO BE. AT LEAST WHITNEY NEVER TOOK CREDIT FOR SONGS SHE DIDNT WRITE. SHE ALWAYS GIVES CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. NAMING WRITERS AND PRODUCERS EVEN IN A CONCERT SETTING. BEYAAAWNCE HAS HAD LIKE WHAT, 3+ LAWSUITS WITH HER MAFIA PAPA KNOWLES PAYING OUT SETTLEMENT EACH TIME. GUILTY AS FUUUCK!!!! YEA, IF SHE DIDNT GO ON THOSE DAMN SHOPPING SPREES AND TRAVEL WITH TALKER JAY-Z EVERYWHERE SHE HAVE TIME TO “WRITE” S*** DOWN.

    FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2.0.

  12. FlyyIAm July 10, 2010

    there is no proof whether she doesnt write her music
    who cares
    can your favorite pull in 87 million dollars and be the most powerful celeb behind Oprah? NO

  13. evening July 10, 2010

    BECAUSE THAT’S THE BOSS SHE IS!!!

    Damn right 😉

  14. Jake July 10, 2010

    We all know she does not write her own lyrics. She cant even get her words together during interviews. Remember her interview with Larry King? I refuse to believe she writes, but I’ll still buy her music! 😀

  15. CC July 10, 2010

    How can you say “it almost doesn’t matter” because she is talented in other areas???

    You would never say that it doesn’t matter that Rihanna can’t sing because she is good-looking, so you you still like her!

    Just because Bey is talented and succesful doesn’t mean she should be able to get away with lying and cheating! (if she doesn’t write the songs).

  16. SG3 July 10, 2010

    It wouldn’t matter if she didn’t speak on her songwriting. Songwriting is a craft just as her singing and recording is. Her saying she wrote songs is just like Milli Vinilli saying they song all their hits and we know they didn’t or her fans illegally downloading all her material instead of buying it. I believe from artistic point it does matter. As a songwriter I’m sure it’s a big slap in the face to have credit taken away from you. As an recording artist if you have a number 1 hit on billboard you want your name by the title of that song not some other artist’s name if its your work…

  17. CC July 10, 2010

    Oh and looks like Beyonce won’t be working with Bangladesh anytime soon now 😛

  18. JD July 10, 2010

    I knew the stans would come out swinging. You people need to realize the fact that she hasnt written a lick of music in years. Another thing is that her father controls everything she gets, whatever she gets, it has to be in her fathers hands first. A REAL artist would take their time to write quality music, not some cheesy hand flippin crap. She’s fake, phony, and all she wants is your money but it seems like your all ok with going broke over a chick who has to show ass to get attention. Even Britney Spears’ Circus Tour made like $30 million more and beyonce had more dates than Britney did. Beyonce’s ticket sales suck in the US and if you think Im lying, look it up. Why else would she be making yet ANOTHER album so soon? Do you think she has that much time to do all that herself? She’s still traveling, we see pics of her everyday on every blog site in a different place. YOUR FAV IS A FAKE AND SHE’S WORN OUT HER WELCOME. CALL ME A HATER I DONT CARE. SHE HAD MORE TALENT IN DESTINY’S CHILD THAN SHE DOES NOW. STAY MADD.

  19. justme July 10, 2010

    People kill me.. in If I werre a boy and Halo she didnt put her name on the credits.. so that said I think she puts her name on songs she did write and songs she didnt I think she leaves them off… If Beyonce puts her name on a record there were certain parts that wouldnt be a song if she didnt put her touch on them… Solange said herself that she wrote a Beyonce song but Beyonce takes certain things out the song

  20. GangsterA July 10, 2010

    Like pepole said theres no prove and pepole sit there dumb asses and think songwriting credits is only go for the lyrics who do you think that half of the producers get song writing credits and any one can write a song is not hard and beyonce is not stupied she does harder stuff like come up with dance moves and deign outtfits dirct videos i think if she want to prove that you write songs just wrote a hole song and dont let some one be a co-writer with you on the telephone song i am conviuesd did she write the verse or not cuse darkchild said that she want her verse to be hood like he didt clear that up

  21. Pray4Tina July 10, 2010

    Diva’s getting money….

    I don’t really care if she writes or not. The truth will come into the light eventually.

    It always has and always will. Someone will spill the tea and it will be Lipton.

    The music industry is a messy game and she plays it well.

    Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

  22. that stupid juice July 10, 2010

    If this,was another particular women they would have ripped her ass a new whole. Anyway I still love Bey and can’t wait for her next album, but the writers of this,blog are full of s***.

  23. famous_forever July 10, 2010

    if there letting bey take credit for there hard work then they need to be slapped cause I kno if I wrote a song by myself Im taking full credit I dont care who you are

  24. Trisha July 10, 2010

    I think at some point in her career she was writing a lot,like survivor and independent women,I believe she really did those songs
    but I do believe she got to a certain level of fame where she doesn’t have to write the song in order for her name to be on it.
    With that said I still thing she is very Much involved with the creative process

  25. Blasian July 10, 2010

    JD

    Thats why Beyonce tour grossed over 100 million lmao! #STAYMAD LOL

  26. E July 10, 2010

    If you don’t know anything about publishing then you shouldn’t comment on this. Whether or not you write the whole song or change one word you get a piece of the publishing because that’s just the way it goes. So if beyonce was given a song, that was finished lyrics and music and all she had to do was go in and sing, if shes reading the lyrics and says i don’t like this ima change it to this she gets a piece of the songwriting credit.

  27. that stupid juice July 10, 2010

    @JD tell em y u mad son!!!

  28. bjksolo July 10, 2010

    “Oh and looks like Beyonce won’t be working with Bangladesh anytime soon now”
    @CC OMFG THAT HAD ME ROLLING!!!!!!!!!
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    CIARA- BASIC INSTINCTS IN STORES AUGUST 17TH!!!!!!!!!

  29. DAWON July 10, 2010

    IT DOESN’T MATTER IF SHE WRITES OR NOT!!! YOU CAN’T DENY HER TALENT REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYBODY SAYS!!!!! SHE IS THE 3RD MOST HONORED FEMALE ARTIST IN MUSIC HISTORY!!!!! NOW THAT’S THE REAL FACTS!!!!!

  30. Hmmm July 10, 2010

    Why are people acting like you actually have to write the song to get a song writing credit?? There is more into it than just writing a song hence why Beyonce’s name is on just about everything she gets or writes. For example, If she’s handed a song and she likes it but doesn’t like certain parts, she can take out certain parts and change them and do what she wants with them thus getting her writing credit. She does vocal arrangements which also gets her writing credits. She also has song writing awards so to say she can’t write songs is stupid. Plus, if you’re name isn’t 1st, 2nd, or 3rd on the song writing credits list, then you didn’t have much input on the way the song was made anyway…SO THE HATERS CAN STFU!

  31. Daniel Williams July 10, 2010

    I am still a big fan of Beyonce and I like all of her songs.

  32. EXPOSED July 10, 2010

    THE REAL TRAGEDY IS THE GRAMMY ACADEMY (MAFIA PAPA KNOWLES SITS ON THIS BOARD) HAS GIVEN BEYAAAWNCE ALMOST AS MANY GRAMMYS IN 10YRS AS ARETHA FRANKLIN IN OVER 40+ YRS. WTF!!!!!!!!! MORE PAYOUTS BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WE DONT KNOW OF… I BET THE GRAMMY RULE CHANGES THAT MADE IT “EASIER” FOR YOUNGER ARTISTS TO WIN GRAMMYS WAS PAPA KNOWLES IDEA, NO DOUBT. THE WHOLE FAMILY HAS INGRAINED THE IDEA THAT SWAGGER JACKING AND STEALING FOR PURPOSES OF FAVORATISM AND SELF-BENEFIT IS OK. WOW, PAPA KNOWLES HAS SUCK PARENTAL SKILLZ SET!! HAHA.

  33. los July 10, 2010

    Beyonce’s fans are so stupid to let her drain their pockets dry and she is not even singing songs from her heart or her perspective. I dont like artist like that I want a real artist.

  34. CC July 10, 2010

    @Dawon

    Just because she is talented at one thing, doesn’t mean she should be able to lie and take credit for another talent.
    Thats like saying it would be ok for her to be credited with inveting the the computert, just because she can sing and dance, even though she had nothing to do with inveting it!

  35. CC July 10, 2010

    *computer

  36. ~TeAM WeeZY~ July 10, 2010

    I’m sorry but I just don’t think Beyonce is just putting her name on songs if she didn’t write them. I think she actually writes alot of her material or co-wrote on alot of her material. Let’s not forget that arranging a song is also a co-write as she did for “Irreplaceable.”

    It just doesn’t add up to me. How many writers would actually get paid to scratch their name from songwriting credits when they would get way more money if they kept their name on the credits? ROYALTIES anyone? This is one of the main reasons RAPPERS make more money than singers (who don’t write their own songs) because they write/co-write on ALL of their songs. And that’s why Beyonce is paid because she’s getting royalty checks from her songwriting credits. And if she and Mattthew actually are paying for songwriting credits the songwriters are some dumb muthafuckas!

    My thing is people will say ANYTHING to discredit Beyonce because guess what? SHE’S BEYONCE! There is no proof that she isn’t writing her material just like their isn’t proof that people like Ne-Yo, Keri Hilson, or The-Dream write their own material.

  37. Freelandmeis July 10, 2010

    Yea we stans aren’t confused about that. We know most of what she has released she hasn’t written. But we know she can write. Me personally I sure would be changing a few words to get on those credits and get me that money. And because she is Beyonce it doesn’t matter if she does/doesn’t write. She delivers and never disappoints

  38. Kime July 10, 2010

    ” a) there remains no concrete proof that she doesn’t write (it’s simply a known unknown) and b) she is undeniably one of biggest all-round talents to emerge in many years. Hence it almost doesn’t matter…or does it? ”

    What kind of answer is THAT ? You are biaised my friend, not to say blinded.
    I don’t care how talented she is as a performer AND I UNDERLINE – PERFORMER – I don’t care how much money she makes but she shouldn’t get credits for somethings that she did not do. For how could she even write her songs when she’s barely able to express herself in interview !!!
    This girl is beautiful but she has no vocabulary and she hasn’t evolve in her music since destiny’s child. It’s a shame for she’s almost 30 and still singing teenager songs. (“all the single ladies” – WTF ???)

    The only thing you said that has some sense is that music is a buisness. You know, I’m learning psychology and in our profession, or any kind of scientific profession for that matter, if someone try to steal some other person’s work, he get to court immediatly. And that’s exactly the right thing to do.

    But i think reading you anser that’s a matter f perspective. We4 all have different opinions about what music should be about and how Art is created…

  39. Danny B July 10, 2010

    DUMB ASS FOLK…

    D

  40. Dev July 10, 2010

    Sheer ignorance, if she’s not writing the music but still getting paid, some talented person isn’t so to say it doesn’t matter is just ridiculous. I don’t think Whitney wrote a song but she still sold and people got paid.

  41. Blasian July 10, 2010

    Beyonce’s name is not on all of of her songs thats a FACT! So that goes to show you she doesn’t slap her name on everything

  42. Marquis / Ciara STAN/FAN July 10, 2010

    wow not even gonna say anything on this lol

  43. EXPOSED July 10, 2010

    @BLASION

    SHE ONLY SLAPS HER NAME ON SOGNS SHE CAN GET AWAY WITH. #FACT AND PAWND!!

  44. EXPOSED July 10, 2010

    @BLASION

    SHE ONLY SLAPS HER NAME ON SONGS SHE CAN GET AWAY WITH. #FACT AND PAWND!!

  45. Danny B July 10, 2010

    Duhhhhhh Bey doesnt write EVERY damn lyric that spews from her mouth! But she sure as hell either writes, co-writes, produces or arranges eveyr song she puts out! she always has SOME kind of involvement to the development of the song in some major way, thus the name credit she recieves.

    If u bandwagoning naive retards actually notice (and this is with a lot of artists) that if u see the artist’s name at THE END of a song writing credit, it most likely means they didnt necessarily write the song lyrics or whole song, but helped developed it, whether it be the arrangment, a few words or word changes here or there or the melody, which are actually some of the most important features of a song and what makes it a hit in the first place. (its the little things that count!)

    On the flip side, if u see their name listed first or close to first, then they had more hands on with the actual lyrics. When u see Beyonces name as one of the first listed songwriters, she wrote/co-wrote the lyrics. When its towards the end of the list, she mightve changed a few words, added some, and/or created the melody. I mean lets be real, a song isnt a song if the melody isnt on point, and thats where Beyonce comes in. Im sure “Irreplaceable” was just another Ne-Yo poem before Beyonce got her hands on it and did what she did with it, as the same as all her other songs.

    So dont put words in her mouth calling her a liar, cheater andtry to discredit her ability. While im sure Bangledesh isnt falsifying information, the way hes going about it is being taken in the wrong context and making Beyonce look like something shes not, which is a fake song writer. Know your facts people. If youre not a fan or stan and only know tings from the outside, dont make assumptions and jump on the bandwagon cuz u look like an ass when u do so. That is all.

  46. Stoney-Brie July 10, 2010

    she’s like another Whitney..she’s never in her life written a song!

  47. Danny B July 10, 2010

    And for those saying “How can she write songs if she cant even talk in an interview”…. songwriting and music is an expression that only a talented artist/musician can understand. Therefore, it doesnt have to come off in everything u do. With some people, creativeness only flows when youre in the moment and when youve actually got that pen and paper. Its a personal experience that only YOU know how to create. Its like how Michael Jackson says hes very shy when talking to ppl and doing interviews, but when hes on stage and when hes cretaing music, he lets himself go and all these creative juices start flowing. ITS THE SAME DAMN THING. You dont have to READ a person in order to understand their craft. Thats called true TALENT.

  48. Kime July 10, 2010

    @ Danny B

    And how do you explain that Beyonce’s name is always the first or second of the list ? That’s exactly why so many people, including the songrwriter themselves are so angry about this – she get the main credit for something that she did not do. And come on, let’s be honest one minutes do you really think that if she changes ONE WORD she should get credits ?
    Speaking of irreplaceable, Neyo mentionned himself that she only did the harmonies – harmonies are not WRITING, hun !

  49. gary July 10, 2010

    does noone remember ‘smash into you’??

    she completely copied the song and got a writing credit WTF!!!!!!!

  50. ImHighPrice July 10, 2010

    People may not believe it but NO ONE in the industry is the “total package”…everyone is lacking in an area. The problem is….Bee hasn’t come to the realization that she is not a writer & she is not creative (her sister was bless with those attributes).

    Instead, she decides to lie, decieve & be fraudulent just because she feel that she can. That’s why producers/writers are putting her ass on blast, that’s why demos of her songs that have exactly the same lyrics are leaking & that’s why her ass is in & out of court for this type of s***.

    Reminder: Changing a few words such as “you” to “me” or “smack” to “smash” does NOT make you a writer.

  51. Kime July 10, 2010

    @ Danny B

    “songwriting and music is an expression that only a talented artist/musician can understand. Therefore, it doesnt have to come off in everything u do.”

    Maybe if you appreciate teenager music. She has a cute voice, she sings well but let’s not call her music Art, please ! The majority of her lyrics are pretty immature and pointless. That’s why i said i recognize her talent as a performer.
    Michael jackson was a real artist and he has no problem expressing himself. And it’s pretty weird that either Michael, or mariah for that matter have never be accused of stealing, don’t u think. There is no smoke without fire …

  52. Danny B July 10, 2010

    @KIME

    If your slow ass would take the time to go through every CD booklet from every album and see that her name is NOT at the top of every list and NOT on every single song, then youd answer your own damn question. Im not here to research for you…im here to refute common misconceptions that ppl are so quick to believe becuz its all hype and popular opinion.

    And if you actually read what i wrote, you wouldve seen that i never said she WROTE Irreplaceable, I said she helped with the melody, which includes the harmonies. But then again, i dont expect you to actually pay attention to what you read.

  53. Blasian July 10, 2010

    16 GRAMMYS BISHES LMAO! STAY MAD

  54. Danny B July 10, 2010

    @KIME

    ooo laaawwwrrddddddd…. “No Smoke without fire” is just another way of saying if everyone says it then it must be true, which is enitrely FALSE. Just like everyone who said MJ was child molestor, saying their is “no smoke with fire”, only for him to be vindicated andeven for one of his accusers to admit that he lied on Mike.

    Dont believe everything you read hun. Ive followed Beyonce her whole career and knw her artistry enough to know what she writes and what she doesnt and dont need you jumping on this wagon trying to convinve me otherwise cuz its a waste of time.

  55. Kime July 10, 2010

    @ Danny B,
    No need to be rude or calling names, if you read my post you might be able to see that i did not insult you, but it might be a bit too much for you, i see.
    I won’t even bother answering your post, because if you dare calling beyonce’s music art or creative … we certainly have nothing in common and do not share the same perspective or appreciation of music.

  56. Danny B July 10, 2010

    @BLASIAN

    OKAYYYYYEEEEE!!!! All the hate on Beyonce is only going to get her her 17th Grammy, and without even any music out! they stay mad.

  57. Danny B July 10, 2010

    @KIME

    you had no business responding to me in the first place. #FAILED

    Im done.

  58. Mr.727 July 10, 2010

    To me this takes away from her creditably, if this is the truth!!! It pays a million times more to write you own music, trust in this today economy it pays to have your own written down, cuz it shows proof that it is your material!! To me though it holds a lot of evidence to the claims that she has been stealing music!! I agree with the person that said that Michael Jackson could tap into his soul and pull out a master piece! I feel that if Beyonce intentions weren’t so vain then she would have all my respect! But by the way she handles these situations, paying people off is only going to get you so ahead, until it finally bites you in the ass to make you realize that you can’t get away with it any longer!!! I feel she has came to a place where she needs to take control of her career and stop lettin Ol’ Batty Matty handle all her business for her!! Cuz you can’t depend on others to do the work for you forever!!

  59. the real July 10, 2010

    no she doesnt write them if she did people would pay her top dolla to write for others and thats not happening….but its the game and shes getting paper and others are eating even if they give her a piece its a win for all on the record

  60. ADE July 10, 2010

    Of course Beyonce don’t write any of her damn songs! That’s just common knowledge…no shade but I don’t think she would even be able to write half decent songs on her own. However she’s a great artist and I don’t really think her not writing her own songs has or will hinder her career in the slightest.

  61. Commander for Kelly n Ciara July 10, 2010

    WE ALL KNOW BEY DONT WRITE HER OWN S***….. BEYONCE JUS PUTS HER NAME ON IT “IF SHE LIKED IT BEST BELIEVE SHE PUT HER NAME ON IT” << SINGLE LADIES REMIX… DAS WHY BC JEAN TURFED HER ON IT..BUT BEYONCE IS TALENTED ..SO ILL LET HER SLIDE… plus.. banlgedesh u kno BEY is COMING 4 U RIGHT

  62. EXPOSED July 10, 2010

    @STONEY-BRIE

    WHITNEY HAS 8 SONGS REGISTERED UNDER ASCAP! THAT’S 8 MORE THAN YOU, LOL.

  63. Danny B July 10, 2010

    @EXPOSED

    You betta PREACH.

  64. EXPOSED July 10, 2010

    @STONEY-BRIE

    ASCAP HAS NOT UPDATED FOR A WHILE. WHITNEY HAS MORE THAN A DOZEN SONGS UNDER ASCAP. IN HER CURRENT ILTY ALBUM SHE HAS LIKE 4 TRACKS WITH CO-WRITER CREDITS.

  65. stan July 10, 2010

    umm, hell yeah it matters. she’s basically mooching off other people’s works.

  66. JT July 10, 2010

    IT DOESN’T MATTER? how the f*** does it not matter?

    I just lost what little respect I had for this stupid motherfucking website. Honestly, I’m disgusted.

  67. BeysBetter July 10, 2010

    i NEVER understood the Controversy over this? WHAT DOES IT MATTER??????? Even if she doesn’t she is paying them off to have her name on it. So either way they are getting money. And YOUR NOT…while your sititng on these blogs mad, pressed and permed.

  68. Comeonson July 10, 2010

    First off Just because someone is defending Beyonce and not jumping on the bandwagon doesnt mean that they are a STAN, how come it just cant be someone that knows what they are talking about or someone who doesnt believe all this crap..

    With that said, for the poster who mentioned why Beyonce had credit for the song Smash into you..lets rewind and remember the song was originally called SMACK into you..Changing the word Smack to Smash..gives you credit…if you think about it that one word changes how you think of the song…

    Also Beyonce is a Vocal Producer/Arranger..that also gives you credit for a song

    You guys are acting like Beyonce said I wrote and produce every song I have ever did..How can you claim someone as being a liar or swagger jacker when they didnt even say anything..if that was the case then when you look at a Beyonce album booklet you will only see her name and that’s it…

    I think people jump on the hate beyonce bandwagon that they make themselves look stupid..

  69. florida_girl July 10, 2010

    @beysbetter…exactly and to add TGJ did not throw shade at Bey they feel like many others she’s the boss at what she does and that’s all that matters. Bey can back her s*** up while others can’t outside the studio.

  70. Jolie July 10, 2010

    yep,Mariah has been sued countless times for stealing credits back in the day…you must be too young to remember tht!

  71. SparkD July 10, 2010

    Beyonce’s has the ability to write songs, but is spread too thin to write for herself, so she outsources her work and puts her name on it.

  72. Kross July 10, 2010

    This is nothing new…& y’all bey stanz are something else! You alwayz got something to say about other people but the already known has finally been exposed and y’all all like ” Well I still like her”. Y’all make me sick none of y’all have morals or principles and that’s why y’all stan for her cheating ass now…#NEXT

    #TeamCiara – I stan for an artist who receives credits when she actually writes and or co-writes..

    #BasicInstinct IMPACTING Billboard 200 August 17, 2010

  73. Stank Breath Beyaki July 10, 2010

    I BET IF IT WAS CIARA OR RIHANNA IT WOULD MATTER. BEYONCE IS A FRAUD AND A LIAR

  74. Danny July 10, 2010

    Personally I could careless if she writes any of them. The woman can sing and thats where the talent comes in at. I could have written any song on her album but my a** couldn’t sing it for sh*t. The voice and the look is what sells.

  75. tee July 10, 2010

    Like she tried to claim out of her own mouth that “she wrote Irreplaceable for all the women out there” bullsh*t. I mean it is one thing to take the credit but then to get on stage and flat out lie if foul. I crediit Matthew for teaching her business skills, after all the music business is a dirty, dirty game and I guess she just making sure she get hers. I hope her next CD she “writes” some better songs than Diva and Video Phone…ugh

  76. Jay Deuce July 10, 2010

    She’s not even educated, but I guess it’s up to the actual writer of the song(s) to actually care. If they dont, then I don’t. Not a fan anyway.

  77. UGh July 10, 2010

    I personally think that if a singer writes their own song it adds a little more substance to them. I think it’s a good package to be able to sing, write, produce and dance. But that’s just me.
    that said, i don’t look for the complete package when i get interested in entertainers. take for instance, Rihanna. i like her music but she doesn’t write her songs and she can’t sing that well. Beyonce can sing and dance but she allegedly doesn’t write her own songs. Alecia can sing but she can’t dance but i like her music. get what i’m saying?

  78. gfssd July 10, 2010

    britney cant sing, write songs or anything…

  79. ~AalexisR~ The Summer King (The Bahamas) July 10, 2010

    You should watch part of the source… He talks about Kelis being one of the worst to work with. That is harsh!

  80. Jazzy Phizzle July 10, 2010

    I believe she wrote songs on the Survivor album and some of the Writing’s on the Wall, the lyrics were pretty simple and seem like something she would do..but the songs that made her big..Single Ladies and Irreplaceable (i kno neyo wrote, but she got credit too) i dont think she wrote.. the lyrics are too complex. and the style is nothing like her previous songs. Artists like Alicia, Erykah, and even Mariah (at times) ..I can tell its something they came up with…but with Bey…i dunno

  81. Chris1814 July 10, 2010

    I bet she does what MJ was reported to be doing on *some* of his songs… change a few words and then get credit as a co-writer.

  82. los July 10, 2010

    Beyonce has been sued to many times so I know there is some truth about her putting her name on songs she didnt write. I want to like Beyonce but there are too many sneaky things I dont trust when it comes to her. She is too money hungry and the bible say money is the root of all evil.

  83. Daniel Williams July 10, 2010

    Who cares if Beyonce does not write her songs she is still the most popular diva and make more money then her husband jay-z thanks to us.

  84. Lioha July 10, 2010

    she’s one of the most overrated artists in the history
    so I think it’s very good that such infotmation gets off from tiem to time
    people should know the truth about singer-“songwriter” Beyonce))))

  85. carl July 10, 2010

    She obviously doesn’t write EVERY single word which artist does that =S I’m pretty sure when u look at writting credits of your favourite artist there is more than one writter next tot the credit. #imdone

  86. MB July 10, 2010

    I LOVE Beyonce, this isn’t news lol. And y’all STUPID to think Beyonce is the only artist that does this lol. GET MONEY!

  87. Missy July 10, 2010

    We ALL know Bey don’t write shyt lmao. Anytime you see “Beyonce Knowles” on EVERY single track of her albums yet you see how busy her ass is you should know she don’t write nothin’…

    But she SANGS the hell out the songs! lmao. YASSS Bey

  88. Anne July 10, 2010

    I think the producer is looking at it from a practical versus a legal standpoint. I think some songs with writing credits for Beyonce were based on her writing the entire or the majority of the song while others were practically written by someone else but because she makes writing additions or re-writes a portion of the song (small or large) she legally gets writing credits. If Bangladesh views those additions or revisions as minor or insignificant or doesn’t notice them at all, he would assume she just put her name on someone else’s song. In other words I don’t think his opinion is fully reliable because he probably is not looking at it from a legal or technical point of view.

  89. aROB July 10, 2010

    She puts her name on all the songs, so that she has rights to it. Which is very smart business wise, so later on she will not be poor like many older singers did by not owning their own songs.

  90. S*** July 11, 2010

    I know she can write but at the same time I know deap down that shes no “Great Writer”, being she has had hardly any credit as a sole writer. I can hear her imput like what I feel she would say in some of her songs like ‘Daddy’ & ‘Hello’ for instance. Ive seen her write physically many times B4 so thats good enough for me. I personally would never steal writing credit or understand why some one would feel the need to. I dont even see how anyone can get away with it.

    “I don’t play any instrument,” (she says as if thats a requirement). “I have writers that I write with, or I have writers that will send me a full song, and I’ll rearrange it – change the second verse, change the melody, keep a chord that I like, and recreate it. Just depends. I might bring in whoever I think can help the song. When I have just a beat it’s the most fun for me. I’ll get somebody to play whatever I hum for the bassline. So I’m creating a whole track with my voice.”~ Beyonce

    futhermore, Bangladesh is an idiot!! If he had something important to say atleast jump to her defense not make the QUESION MARK(?) even BIGGER. What a Idiot, either say she helps write or say nothing at all.

  91. No Oscar nomination LOL July 11, 2010

    LOL remember when the Oscars took her name off of LISTEN?

    Weave is always adding her names to songs that have already been written.

    Weave is one fake __________.

  92. C July 11, 2010

    This is old news she always puts her name on things she didn’t write, Neyo called her out on it, I don’t know why she does it, not writing a song wouldn’t take away from her artistry if she didn’t pretend she was writing the song in the first place, thats the only reason its a issue with people

  93. Roneyyvee July 11, 2010

    I see it like this, no matter how many jobs beyonce picks up the only title she must stay true to is SINGER. She is not obligated to write even a letter. Many of our musical legends never touched a pen that touched the piece of paper their songs were on. As long as she believes in the songs that she is singing I can’t be too concerned with whether she wrote them or no because she is a singer. Song writing is another profession.

  94. UGh July 11, 2010

    CHRIS1814
    July 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    I bet she does what MJ was reported to be doing on *some* of his songs… change a few words and then get credit as a co-writer.
    ________________________________________________________

    don’t you dare f*** with MJ. He wrote most of his songs. IF YOU OWN AN MJ CD YOU WOULD SEE SONGWRITER – Michael Jackson. He also own MJJ Productions which is half of sony records. So go to hell with your co-writer b*******.

  95. Mel B July 11, 2010

    Beyonce wrote like 80% of her DIL record…and that was also her BEST record 2 date! the other ones im sure she didnt write it or barely. Hence that the sales r not as gud as DIL.
    also a lot of the early DC numbers which we all know and like she actually wrote like booty and survivor etc. so she can write hits.

    But like Bangladesh said she is the boss of the game so she can do what she wants!

  96. FreshUrbanEnt July 11, 2010

    WHO REALLY CARES AS LONG AS THE MUSIC IS GOOD. LIKE REALLY, PEOPLE STAY LOOKING FOR NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT BEYONCE!. THE GIRL IS TALENTED REGARDLESS OF WETHER SHE IS WRITING HER SONGS OR NOT

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  97. jmoore July 11, 2010

    No, this is not true didn’t Beyonce write Irreplaceable with Neyo. OOH and it was her idea to use the Stevie Nicks sample in Bootylicious. And we all know she wrote Halo, even though another artist recorded it months before she did, maybe she was going to let them record it first then she changed her mind….i mean Solange is a great songwriter Too…it runs in the family!

  98. S*** July 11, 2010

    Bey’s tour grossed 103.2 Million, she doesnt need writing credits. & she said she wrote Dangerously in love when she was 17 & I believe her. & Atleast Bangladesh called her “THE BOSS” so at least he said something co-sign worthy.

  99. Jay Jay July 11, 2010

    Here’s a video from her studio sessions where she inputs on the lyrics

  100. Jay Jay July 11, 2010

    Why does Bangladesh come off a “little slow” like he doesnt know what to say and his words are very spaced out lol

  101. chris July 11, 2010

    now new gheto pop interscope recording artst Alja jackson writes almost 95% of her songs..she even said on her lil wayne’s on fire remix”I ant gone be like beyonce and tell you i write erry hit” lol yes mam!!

  102. I’m So disappointed July 11, 2010

    What a fake, I will never buy any of her music ever again.

  103. I’m So disappointed July 11, 2010

    What a fake! I WILL NEVER EVER BUY ANY OF HER MUSIC AGAIN. THIS B**** IS RECEIVING CREDIT FOR S*** SHE DIDN’T EVEN WRITE. AS A SONG WRITER I AM OFFENDED BY THIS. IM SO MAD RIGHT NOW.

  104. S*** July 11, 2010

    ^^ Oh SHUT UP & Learn to read.

  105. I’m So disappointed July 11, 2010

    @s*** Listen b****, you f****** retards, think I’m going to fall for what Sam said. He basically says that us songwriters who bust our asses don’t matter. Beyonce is a fake for doing that. How can you credit your name over something you didn’t write, so you can win a stupid trophy. That’s f****** dirty. She’s a fake and as I said I will not be buying any of her music. Of course you will not understand my point of view because you are a dumb ass fan.

  106. S*** July 11, 2010

    Bangladesh does not work with her on every song in her catalog, just 2 songs (VP & Diva which Bey helped write) so he does Not know about her input on the rest of her catalog. Hes speaking in terms of accusations & is basically saying “shes a Boss & If she did glue her name in the credits… SO??”.

  107. Terri July 11, 2010

    To the person that mentioned Mariah being sued, most of those cases against her were dismissed. Mariah’s been writing since she was a teenager. She has co-written and in some cases entirely written her songs. At the very least she has come up with most of the melodies for her songs. She has a signature sound that hasn’t changed no matter who she has worked with, so I’m certain she is a legitimate writer.

    As for Beyonce, as others have said, she probably wrote quite a few of the DC songs, but I also believe that she has taken more credit than she deserved for songs she hasn’t written/changed a word or sentence to. I don’t think Beyonce is a bad person, I think she’s been misguided at times. I do agree that she is a wonderful performer. : )

  108. True Blue July 11, 2010

    I love Beyonce and I think she is a great singer and performer, so therefore it doesn’t bother me if she doesn’t write most or all of her songs. What DOES bother me though is that she pretends to do so when she doesn’t. That’s not right, that’s deceitful, and it does bring down her credibility as an artist down a notch. Just be honest, if you want to appear credible as an artist, then try putting some effort into actually writing your own songs, instead of being shady about it. Let’s be honest here; no one thinks her songs are great crafts of poetry, they’re fun catchy songs, and that’s all. People enjoy her talent as a live performer, but artistically speaking, no one thinks much of her music. So why lie about her “songwriting”? Elvis didn’t write his songs, in fact a lot of his songs were covers of blues songs. Nobody cared, he was a great entertainer, and that alone cemented his icon as an artist. Same with Frank Sinatra. People don’t care that Beyonce doesn’t write her own s***. Less talented artists (like Britney Spears) are hugely successful with no artistic credibility to back them up, and few people care. So all this effort to make Beyonce look credible with the title of singer-songwriter is useless. In fact, it would be far better if they were just honest from the get-go.

  109. Teresa July 11, 2010

    @I’m so dissapointed I agree, this actually does make her a fake. I’m not liking Beyonce that much anymore.

  110. S*** July 11, 2010

    @ The Disappointed H**

    B**** WTF do you know? You cant believe everything you read, look closely at the credits & you’ll figure it out for yourself. Blogs are just that BLOGS, You cant count on them to make up your own mind, This is all Gossip. The fact of the matter is you just cant get away with these things, Not even Beyonce.

    & you dont have to buy her Album, It will go Platinum with or without you Because We are Real Loyal Fans not Conditional ones like you.

  111. S*** July 11, 2010

    Bangladesh does not work with her on every song in her catalog, just 2 songs (VP & Diva which Bey helped write) so he does Not know about her input on the rest of her catalog. Hes speaking in terms of accusations & is basically saying “shes a Boss & If she did glue her name in the credits… SO??”.

  112. Michael July 11, 2010

    Damn I’m so shocked right now. All the respect i had for Beyonce I just lost about 80% of it.

  113. mindgames July 11, 2010

    thief

    and her stans digust me. get lives. SHE IS NOT GOD. find the read one

  114. WOW July 11, 2010

    All the respect I had for this woman, I just lost it….. She’s b*******.

  115. mindgames July 11, 2010

    thief

    and her stans digust me. get lives. SHE IS NOT GOD. find the real one

  116. wendy July 11, 2010

    WTF!!!! You mean to tell me that Beyonce is a fake just like that hair of hers. I mean how the hell can she take credit of someone else writing. Everything about Beyonce & that husband of hers JayZ are both liers and thives. They become rich and we get poorer. And all that lawsuit thing is probably a drop in the bucket for that lying b****. How can see do such a thing. Once the word gets out about this and I know it will, people are going to stop buying her music. Oh this is such a same.

  117. Daniel July 11, 2010

    I really hate Trent’s attitude towards this. He know s*** and Beyonce, you are done in my book.

  118. Criss_Vaughn July 11, 2010

    If Beyonce is this fantastic writer that his written so many big #1 hits, why dosent she write for others? Everyone else does (Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Usher, etc) but no, not even Kelly can get a line from her. Solange has written on Kelly’s joints tho. Fishy to me.

    And I know we all remember when Bey went around talking bout how she wrote Irreplaceable ’til NeYo shut down that lie.

  119. S*** July 11, 2010

    Beyonce often gets “producer credit” also, now did she steal that too?? Man, Its some Feeble minded ass Idiots & Haters on this Blog. Yall dont have to like it, Beyonce still shits on all your Favs so Stay Mad.

  120. BEYDABESS July 11, 2010

    U C now yall lying on mi Queen!! She rote every song she eva terched & all by harself two. she dowt need no help!! Neyo got away wit steelin Credits but et wont happen again cause BEY DA BOSS!! She gets dat Papha while yuo an yo favs stay BROKE!! I ida lize yuo Bey. Yo favs betta in joy dey carreer while et lass cause Win da Queen Bey cume to town its GAME OVA:

    http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/554/beyonceflies.gif

  121. shaquera July 11, 2010

    songwritter work so f***** hard just like us and someone else takin credit for others s***. f*** all yall the s*** does matter. lets c some1 take s*** from u and make more money then u for s*** u made

  122. AuntieJackie July 11, 2010

    She writes some of them, she helps with some of them. She performs the S*** out of all of them. AND?

    Most artists don’t write their own songs, it looks better if it seems like they do. If they put a “hey” or “yes” is a song they get co-writing credit. If someone chooses to sell their song, and let Bey get credit for it…okay. That’s the business.

  123. Anne July 11, 2010

    Beyonce has not responded to this statement. Those who claim to be disappointed or say they have lost respect for her probably never had any respect for her in the first place. Any reasonable person who is not a Beyonce hater would give her the benefit of the doubt since she has not had the opportunity to defend herself. Why jump to conclusions based on a supposed statement by someone who may have been misquoted or may not know what he is talking about? Until there is further confirmation (like a judgment against her or an admission by her) we just don’t know and have no reason to assume the worse. Banglidesh seems to be speculating anyway.

  124. NUNYA July 11, 2010

    beyonce fans who are sorry to say young and gay dont care if her ass wrote a song, as long as its dumb and meaningless its a hit. I see beycone as diana ross, she cat sell out a tour if her life depended on it,LOL
    diana ross screwed her way to the top and let the supremes high and dry.
    now when people wanted to see them do a reunion tour diana wanted more money than mary wilson. i see fans shut that s*** down and people didnt purchase tickets.
    in a old article wyclef or another producer said that on the first cd, they was told that beyonce will lead all songs and I believed that.
    I look at writing credits all the time, heck when i found out that troy taylor wrote one of my fav boyzllmen songs I was shocked because he and johnta austin waste so much material on non talented ass trey songz., trey is a gimmick, he dont sing, he try too hard.

  125. BENJAMIN July 11, 2010

    This guy really didn’t say anything to Beyonce’s favor, he only made the hole deeper. Regardless, I always knew her limitations.

  126. S*** July 11, 2010

    @ NUNYA

    Not only do you Disrespect the QUEEN BEY but you also come for Trey Songz?? Listen, both of them are UNDER-RATED in their on individual ways. Unlike Diana Bey is more talented & Bey’s worldwide tour sold out 90+% & grossed $103.2 Mill~ PERFORMER OF OUR GENERATION. Trey has a Beautiful voice & Bey is supper talented & THEA GREATEST fully rounded entertainer of our whole generation. & Trey is way better than Chris brown vocally & music-wise. Beyonce slays the competition, theres no match.

  127. S*** July 11, 2010

    @ Anne

    Bey has responded many times, indirectly ofcourse but if asked she would deny it all day long. She doesnt need to cause we, those who count already know she helps writes her own S***.

  128. Anne July 11, 2010

    I think the comment above by ‘Aunt Jackie’ summed it up best “She writes some of them, she helps with some of them. She performs the S*** out of all of them.” That’s consistent with a statement Beyonce made regarding her input quoted in another comment above:

    “I have writers that I write with, or I have writers that will send me a full song, and I’ll rearrange it – change the second verse, change the melody, keep a chord that I like, and recreate it. Just depends. I might bring in whoever I think can help the song. When I have just a beat it’s the most fun for me. I’ll get somebody to play whatever I hum for the bassline. So I’m creating a whole track with my voice.”~ Beyonce

    I think it’s just smart as a business woman to take advantage of laws that allow her to get songwriting credits in her name either as the first name in a list of writers or somewhere down the line of the list of writers (based on how high or low her level of input was). But I don’t think there is any reason at this point to assume that she is just illegally adding her name to the list of credits based on zero requisite input.

  129. Anne July 11, 2010

    @ S***, thanks for the Beyonce quote that I copied above. Although it’s not a direct response, it does address the issue.

  130. nina July 11, 2010

    even if she adds a line to a song, she’s still technically writing it. so you can all hop off her d*** because she’s not lieing by putting her name, along with five others, down for writing a song that, for most of her songs, is mostly comprised of a chorus. even if the song’s produced by someone else and someone else writes the hooks, if she adds a verse, she’s doing just as much as everyone else credited for the song.

  131. Realitycheck July 11, 2010

    Beyonce fans aside, this comment is for the ppl who clearly don’t have their heads so far up her ass they do most of her breathing for her, to those who can have an intelligent conversation without saying every mind-numbingly stupid thing that comes into their heads:

    From an ethical standpoint, Sam raises a solid point–When your name is credited as being a writer on a song, there is money/recognition involved. Writing is a craft and there are immensely talented vocalists who get slammed for horrible lyrics, so it makes a difference. She doesn’t get a free pass for knowing when to strategically flash her crotch while “running/riffing” through an entire octave of notes. Plus, other (not all, but other) artists in their prime had no problem with admitting they didn’t write all their own material (brandy, brittney, michael, etc.) The fact still remains, her talent aside her camp has done some bullying in the industry to keep her where she is. If she’s paying these writers well to be “ghost writers”, OK whatever. Still, to claim the talent of others as your own (regardless of how talented you already are) and go so far as to actively seek credit for it (reference the OSCAR drama with trying to get her name on the song so she could possibly win an oscar), it’s wrong. No free pass for talent; it doesn’t erase unethical business practices and moral wrongs. You don’t credit when none is due.

  132. mr.M July 11, 2010

    two words :

    FAT B****

  133. Daniel July 11, 2010

    I LOVE THIS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    All that you said is right!!!

    Beyonce fans aside, this comment is for the ppl who clearly don’t have their heads so far up her ass they do most of her breathing for her, to those who can have an intelligent conversation without saying every mind-numbingly stupid thing that comes into their heads:

    From an ethical standpoint, Sam raises a solid point–When your name is credited as being a writer on a song, there is money/recognition involved. Writing is a craft and there are immensely talented vocalists who get slammed for horrible lyrics, so it makes a difference. She doesn’t get a free pass for knowing when to strategically flash her crotch while “running/riffing” through an entire octave of notes. Plus, other (not all, but other) artists in their prime had no problem with admitting they didn’t write all their own material (brandy, brittney, michael, etc.) The fact still remains, her talent aside her camp has done some bullying in the industry to keep her where she is. If she’s paying these writers well to be “ghost writers”, OK whatever. Still, to claim the talent of others as your own (regardless of how talented you already are) and go so far as to actively seek credit for it (reference the OSCAR drama with trying to get her name on the song so she could possibly win an oscar), it’s wrong. No free pass for talent; it doesn’t erase unethical business practices and moral wrongs. You don’t credit when none is due.

  134. OB July 11, 2010

    So see, Beyonce gets on stage and yells I wrote Irreplaceable to empower women which set NeYo off. Neyo went on Hot97 (NY) in the morning stating he wrote Irreplaceable so yes, Bangledesh is sooo right. Then she gets on stage to accept an award and thanks NeYo for writing Irreplaceable but if you look on Irreplaceable’s writing credits, B.Knowles is credited…..#ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmm. Beyonce its one thing to do what you do but to lie and front saying that you do what you do when you clearly dont do what you say you do is an epic fail…..#GetItTogether #MakeItClapToTheLeftToTheLeft

  135. OB July 11, 2010

    @JustMe She did put her name on Halo but she didnt write fhat song.

  136. ~TeAM WeeZY~ July 11, 2010

    OMG! Some people are TRUE idiots!

    “Words/Terms” aren’t the only thing that account for writing/co-writing! Arranging, harmonies, melodies, ANY modifications, or ANY accommodations can also account for writing/co-writing credit. It is obvious that Beyonce is VERY VOCALLY ELITE and her melodies and harmonies are some of the best I’ve ever heard (as well as Brandy). I mean it’s obvious that most of the harmonies and melodies are created by her because their almost the same in EVERY song. People went crazy when she was saying she wrote/co-wrote “Irreplaceable” but she ARRANGED the song so that’s a CO-WRITE! Geez!

  137. ~TeAM WeeZY~ July 11, 2010

    @OB

    Do some research, hun! Beyonce arranged “Irreplaceable” and arranging is considered a co-write, idiot! Geez!

    KNOWLEDGE IS POWER PEOPLE!

  138. Jasmine July 11, 2010

    To date she has been sued 12 times for copyright infringement. She has settled 8 out of the 12 cases. This can be looked up on LexisNexis and Westlaw. She is simply greedy and her stans are morons.

  139. OB July 11, 2010

    @TeamWeezy Please refer to @Jasmine’s comment under your comment

    KNOWLEDGE IS POWER PEOPLE! #NowKickRocks

    Beyonce is not perfect, business is not holy and pure…..it is what it is! The b**** is making sure she getting paid. I’m with it but dont lie on stage and perform yelling you writing songs when clearly you may have but you’re not the only one who wrote it or you’re not the one who wrote it at all. Just shut ya mouth and perform the song. I fell out when she said she wrote Scared of Lonely at her concert in MSG…..I yelled “Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiies” like a 93 year old southern grandmother would.

  140. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    Most of you—and only one poster address this, don’t even know or understand how the songwriting process works. What Bang is saying really is that he wasn’t there for the finished product but because he obviously made the demo to Diva, he obviously gets credit for this. And he is saying that since Bey is the executive producer of her all products, she comes up the idea for her products and what she wants to say and the PRODUCERS fall in line. She’s the boss. Most female artists, it’s the other way around. So Bang confims what we know of Bey already.

    If it was all him with Diva, then what did Sean Garrett do? These are things most bloggers don’t address when topics like this happen. Just like the Rob Fusari drama, he is not the only one on the songwriting credits. What did Fulasi Moore do if it was all about Rob doing the track or whatever?

    This is deeper than defending Bey. A lot of producers aren’t giving due and allowing their egos to get out of control. Back in the day, who cared who wrote the songs? It was about the recording artists. Now, recording artists were getting screwed in the process because they weren’t making royalities but the songwriters didn’t use it to be recording artists or to get their own shine. THAT is the problem with the industry.

    I bet that if Bey didn’t get credit for the things she brings to the table with songs and was bankrupt or something, many would be rejoicing.

  141. ~TeAM WeeZY~ July 11, 2010

    @OB

    Child, WTF are you talking about? Co-writing is not the same thing as SOLELY writing the song! Like I said, do some research honey! Arranging, modifying, accommodating, etc are ALL apart of writing/co-writing a song and that’s probably 90% of the credit she actually had on her songs! And that doesn’t discount the fact that your ass assumed that Beyonce had no part of “Irreplaceable’s” writing credits. She arranged the song, so she in fact co-wrote it.

    And I have NEVER EVER said Beyonce was perfect! I’m only a fan not a stan, sweetie.

    And you could go down a LONG ASS list of people who have been sued for copyright infringement! Copyright infringement isn’t solely for writing honey it can be for other aspects of an entertainer’s career! So like I said Knowledge is POWER. Do your research, babe!

  142. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    Thank [email protected] Weezy: It is obvious that Beyonce is VERY VOCALLY ELITE and her melodies and harmonies are some of the best I’ve ever heard (as well as Brandy). I mean it’s obvious that most of the harmonies and melodies are created by her because their almost the same in EVERY song.

    And if peeps would listen to most songs in contemporary R&B, the harmonic arrangements are BASIC with most artists when the producers produce for them. And many of those are the same producers who work with Bey with her projects. Why?

    Because like Bey said in CNN back in the B’day era with Star Jones, she vocally producers along with her engineers that is working on the song. In fact, an engineer actually spoke on this during the DIL era: Beyonce just hears those harmonies in her head. She was born with them. Her dad, Matthew is quite a good singer, and I believe Tina sings also. She usually starts off with the tonic, and builds from there. She does a little experimentation, and then blends them herself with the engineer. I love her timing. She has no regard for the beat, but it always sounds right. I don’t think I have ever seen anyone work harder than Beyonce (maybe Mya). I’ve seen her fly in from Europe, come to the studio, do vocals for 4 hours, fly to NY for concert, go directly to airport for 2 shows in Japan, and on and on. No sleep for days, and just keep going and loving every minute of it. Mya is like that also. I get tired just TYPING about it!

    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-dave-pensado/21012-lets-talk-about-vocal-stacks-especially-brian-mcknight.html

  143. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    And what Bang meant, here is another interview: On Beyonce’s recent Album ‘I am Sasha Fierce’ you produced ‘Diva’, which is very similar to A Millie. How did that come about?

    The Diva is a twin of the Millie beat its from the same baby. I had the inspiration and I was brainstorming and it turned into Diva. I put it out and thought who would be better on the track than Beyonce. Sean Garrett the songwriter wrote Diva for her. He writes for everybody and when I played it for him and he liked it so much that it made his day.
    Read more: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=118712524&blogId=472913548#ixzz0tLpLC3X9

    And then from Sean Garrett: The Pen: Sean Garrett

    Sean Garrett: I want the world to know I’m not a person that is trying to be an artist. Ya’ll been loving me, been loving my swag. We did “Diva” for Beyoncé.

    Intervier: When you say “we”…

    Sean Garrett: I don’t like to say “I did” because you know Beyoncé is a powerhouse herself. I mean a lot of times it takes a lot of people, but the creative people know what I do. And for me to say “I… I… I…” in a situation where you got people like Beyoncé or Usher singing your songs… The idea starts with me, you know what I mean, and the song come from me, you know what I mean, but at the same time, when me and Beyoncé collaborate now, she just gives me the reigns to come and bring her things. I love her to death. One of the most incredible artists of our time, no question. That’s why I say “we.” You know, I’d be pretty crazy not to include people that have been there.

    http://www.honeymag.com/2010/honeymag/the-pen-sean-garrett/2/

    So for one, Bang said he pretty much did the demo and then gave it to Sean Garrett and then he and Bey work on the finished product just like this interview says. Bang wasn’t even there to know whether Bey added anything or not. All he cares about is that he is making money off it everytime it is played on the radio anyway.

  144. OB July 11, 2010

    @teamweezy

    So what you’re saying, Beyonce rearranging a song that was already WRITTEN by someone else gives her writing credits to a song that was written by someone other than herself.

    Am I the only one who sees the unmitigated foolishness and fakery of all this?

  145. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    OB, actually YES. What you aren’t getting is, and what Bang said, is that Bey is not creating DEMOS by herself. She don’t have that kind of time. Producers do and they usually creating for artists. For example, Rodney Jerkins has songs for Bey right now. IT’s what they do.

    Demos are pretty much “rough copies” for the artists themselves. It can be done by the artist themselves, but usually it isn’t. It’s the producers first. Then the producers bring it to the artist, they flesh it out, record it, add some things after listening to it and keep doing it until the finished product.

    In publishing, especially music publishing, anything that is part of the finished product that is suggested or added is part of songwriting and should be credited. She’s not the ONLY one getting credit for the song. That would be different.

  146. OB July 11, 2010

    @teamweezy

    Your definition of co-writing/writing in the music industry must be in your head/imagination because:

    1) Obviously the music industry didnt get that memo because if they did, Beyonce wouldnt have lawsuits out the ass

    and

    2) I refuse to believe that if I give an artist a song I wrote and they decide to rearrange the song by switching up verses and ish that they deserve credit too. ” B****, give me my song back if you’re going to dissect and change s***”. Obviously, Neyo aint down that either.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOhqh3KEU6k

    YOU TUBE VIDEO EXPOSING BEYONCE:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIJmEzjwa9M

    OTHER POST:
    http://www.manolith.com/2010/05/14/beyonce-doesnt-really-write-her-own-material/

    http://www.mediatakeout.com/2009/26376-beyonce_covers_marie_claire_magazine__and_shes_still_lying_about_writing_irreplaceable_.html

    http://www.mediatakeout.com/21158/explosive_ne-yo_may_sue_beyonce_over_irreplaceable_royalties.html

  147. AlexanderTG July 11, 2010

    People like E and CURTWILL1975 have got this so right – its quite common in a studio for the recording session to be where the final ‘writing’ takes place with the artist contributing changes, sometimes quite small ones, sometimes bigger. So they have had some contribution to the writing process, hence they get the co-writing credit.

  148. smartee July 11, 2010

    I don’t understand why the Beyonce a** lickers are defending her! Beyonce has been f**king sued a few times because she’s stolen someone else’s work! The articles I actually remember reading about this issued mentioned “Baby Boy” and that song she did for her B-Day album that a 90’s singer did. I read on blogs that there were other times as well. Beyonce is a liar and a cheater. Wasn’t she also being sued for using cheap material from some country for her clothing line? Changing a word or two isn’t sh**. How could you get half of the earnings when you didn’t even create the entire song, just made changes. Even if she “did write her own songs” everyone knows her f**king lyrics are trash anyway. Just because you’re a songwriter, doesn’t mean you’re a good one. She has some of the most immature and bubblegum lyrics. A singer isn’t required to write his/her own lyrics and that’s fine, but don’t try to take credit for something you didn’t do. Oh an to the person who was saying “would many songwriters really let an artist take credit for their work” Keri Hilson answered this question and she said “AS LONG AS I’M GETTING PAID!”

  149. “Dj Y2k Malone” July 11, 2010

    all you Beyonce stans say you dont care who wrote the song but aren’t you the same guys that dog Rihanna for her writing skills shame on you

  150. S*** July 11, 2010

    @ Curtwill1975

    How d you know “Her dad, Matthew is quite a good singer”??, Ive heard Bey say her parents can sing B4 but you sound so certain. Like Have you actually heard him sing B4 or did you see a clip of him singing or something??

  151. S*** July 11, 2010

    @ “Dj Y2k Malone”

    Thats because Rihanna ISNT TALENTED AT DOING ANYTHING WHAT SO EVER!! Atleast we know Be writes & she has Ascap awards & co signers to back it up. PPL just dont see Rihanna capable of writing anything which is why she only happens to have so few credits to her name.

  152. AlexanderTG July 11, 2010

    @SMARTEE
    “How could you get half of the earnings when you didn’t even create the entire song, just made changes” – it doesn’t work like that, who gets the songwriting royalties is all part of the negotiations and people often get money even if their name isn’t on the credits – neither does having the song credited to a sole person mean they wrote it alone or that they get all the money – you don’t get an equal share automatically just by saying I don’t like this word, can I change it to… Plus there’s the question of royalties for the music and the lyrics.

  153. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    @S***, that’s not from me. That’s from Dave Pensado, one of her engineers. He was on DIL and IASF(check the credits). He would KNOW being that he worked with Beyonce and also knows Matthew very well.

    My point really was to show that Bey does much vocal production and harmonic arrangements, and this is confirmation from one of her engineers.

  154. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    *applause*@Alexander….That’s why a lot of times, there are issues of who is first on the credit list and who is last because most of the time, that’s the order of who has the most contribution whether it is lyrically, with the melodies, vocal production, and etc.

    ASCAP and EMI don’t play when it comes to this. Their rep is on the line, and not to say corruption don’t happen but they don’t play. And since Keri was mention, she works with a production(writing team herself) and though even when she is credited with writing/composing for other artists, she’s still part of a writing team. She and others like her don’t get scrutinized. And BTW, I am not, because I don’t care if she lyrically wrote it, did all of the melodies and etc, if I don’t like a song, I could care less.

    But usually it don’t work organically like that. Most of the time, it’s all about demos as I see that you know.

  155. Curtwill1975 July 11, 2010

    Dj Y2k Malone, I will speak for myself being a Beyoncé fan it don’t matter whether Rihanna writes or not. At the end of the day, do I like it or not? I love Bey’s music, most of it anyway, and I always look for what she brings to the table musically.

    Most of the time when they(music critics) critically review her music, it’s usually about vocal arrangements and harmonies. Not really the lyrics. I know many Bey stans will say that they don’t, but I care because I see what she brings to the table musically and that should be giving credit, not dissed because they have to bring her down a notch in their eyes. Her harmonic arrangements is why I listen to her music.

  156. nickalus Randle July 11, 2010

    I really do not think it matters. It is kool for artists to write/produce, & perform, BUT back in the day, people wrote songs for others all the time…

  157. StayMad July 11, 2010

    EXPOSED! SHAME ON HER!

    THAT RIHANNA REIGN JUST WONT LET UP!

    STAY MAD

  158. Tha Phoenix July 11, 2010

    FACT – B’s tour made $103.2 MILL. Stay Mad.

    To me, it doesn’t really matter. REMEMBER ‘SONGWRITING’ DOESN’T ONLY INCLUDE LYRICS – WHICH B RARELY WRITES NOWADAYS – BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES MELODIC COMPOSITION (E.G. VOCAL ARRANGEMENT, ADLIBS, CHANGES IN THE TUNE OF VARIOUS LYRICS), WHICH VARIOUS PEOPLE HAVE CREDITED B FOR. SO, I N THAT SENSE, SHE IS A SONGWRITER.

    HOWEVER, IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT, EVEN IF YOU CHANGE ONLY ONE WORD IN A SONG, YOU CAN STILL GET A SONGWRITING CREDIT.

    IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT IT’S A LIE WHEN PEOPLE CALL HER A SONGWRITER. REMEMBER SHE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO WIN THE ASCAP AWARD FOR SONGWRITER OF THE YEAR – THEY DON’T JUST GIVE THOSE AWAY.

    🙂

  159. TheBaddestBitch July 11, 2010

    On her 16 (fake) grammys, she robbed at least the half

    Beyoncé having 16 grammys is the biggest grammy joker EVER!

  160. Nik July 11, 2010

    Just for the record: Beyonce’s tour DID NOT make 103million. I don’t know if you’re adding up the total from all the tours, but she definitely didn’t make that off one tour. You can even check billboard if you’re confused. They put out the list a while ago of the top grossing tours. She wasn’t even in the top ten. The list was posted on here as well..

  161. Nik July 11, 2010

    And for those who say it DOESN’T MATTER….some of her Grammy’s are strictly for SONG WRITING! If you just consider that alone…it’s not right. She didn’t earn because she really didn’t write on them.

  162. TheBaddestBitch July 11, 2010

    She just had the luck for having a father who was rich and paid her singing lessons, songs, who knows people in the grammy comitee.

    She’s just a spoiled child and has been ever since the day she was born and it had never stopped.

    The b**** never struggled, everything she had has been put on a plate in front of her!

    FAKEST B**** IN THE INDUSTRY! AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT !!!!

    ps: 16 Grammys….what a JOKE !!! haha

  163. TheBaddestBitch July 11, 2010

    She’s a trained singer, not a natural one!

    Ok i’m done: bye b******!

  164. bobs July 11, 2010

    Do you realize you spend your life thinking and writing about this while others are actaually making art, fighting wars, curing illness. Really horrifying when you put in into perspective.

  165. “Dj Y2k Malone” July 11, 2010

    BEYONCE IS NOW A JOKE

  166. SnijanaFleur July 11, 2010

    If Bey contributes one word, one phrase, harmonies, or arrangements, I don’t care. She should get credit for whatever she did on her songs as long as her placement in the credit listing is fair.

  167. ugh July 11, 2010

    i used to like you and your board but you’re starting to p*** me off. as much as i don’t like rihanna, she never claims to write things she hasn’t. how dare you say there’s no proof of her not writing her s***…first of all didn’t Neyo and her have a slight problem with her claiming she wrote Irreplaceable? and then let’s talk about If I Were a Boy….do we even need to get into that one?

    The only problem is the girl who wrote it was paid hush money and given some sort of deal so that Beyonce could claim it as her own.

    I know you’re obsessed with Beyonce but stop putting a blind eye to this s***. You can tell when Beyonce writes a song, and that’s when it’s pure old ghetto.

    i hope you start being more truthful and unbiased on your blog. it used to be such a cool place to go to but now i’m losing interest in the way you guys are running things.

  168. Shouw July 11, 2010

    Lol I’m a Beyonce’s Fan but I already knew that she doesn’t wrote her songs !
    I don’t care I still love her

  169. LAZAVIA July 11, 2010

    THAT GRAPE JUICE IS UTTER S***. STOP MAKING S***-ASS POSTS WHICH ARE S*** AND REEK OF S***, JUST LIKE THAT GRAPE JUICE AND ALSO YOUR MOM. STOP TRYING TO LEAD READERS INTO APPARENTLY READING STUFF WHICH IS INTERESTING, THEN DUMBASSILY COMMENTING ON IT WITH YOUR STUPID, INCOHERENG, BABBLING S***.

  170. Tha Phoenix July 11, 2010

    @NIK – actually, Billboard said that her tour made $86 mill in 2009, and $17 mill in 2010. You do the math.

    🙂

  171. nic July 11, 2010

    i dont givea DAMN!!! beyonce do what she wanna do!

  172. nic July 11, 2010

    @Dj Y2k Malone

    that damn rih WEE is a damn joke, bootin out conerts with her goofy ass.

  173. ~TeAM WeeZY~ July 11, 2010

    @OB

    Yes I AM saying that if Beyonce rearranges a song that was already written it gives her or anyone else that does it writing credits! There is no specific definition of writing/co-writing, sweerheart. However, it is a fact that if you do the slightest thing to project a song you are included in the writing process which results in writing/co-writing!!! Geez! Do you ever realize on some songs for ANY artist that their are sometimes about 6 or 7 people listed as co-writers for a song that is only 3-4 minutes long? Why would it take 7 people to write (only words) for that type of song? Maybe because it takes more than just words to create a song, no? Therfore, like I said arranging, modifying, harmonies, melodies, etc are considered co-writes!

    And most of that ish you posted isn’t even credible (blogs, hearsay, etc), however, if you in fact believe in all of that stuff you could easily google copyright infringement on MOST artists and stuff like that will pop up (i.e. Madonna)! I don’t have time to post that ish! But you seem to, so you could do it.

  174. “Dj Y2k Malone” July 11, 2010

    lol the stan wars continue
    you guys are funny if Rihanna contribute one word to a song you guys diss the hell out of her but Beyonce can do it that’s bull s***

  175. ~TeAM WeeZY~ July 11, 2010

    @DJY2KMalone

    What? What does Rihanna have to do with anything?

  176. thekiddz July 11, 2010

    Key Words: “People from the outside looking in”. There are people out there who just want to discredit Beyonce, because she’s one, if not THE biggest female artist of our time. There is no denying that. A song is much more than beats and lyrics; arrangement, harmonies, melodies, etc. All these things give co-writing credit. We are not there for the finished product. Maybe she adds a word of two; who cares? Solange even said when working with Bee; “if she doesn’t like a line, she”ll change it and make it personal.”

  177. Dane July 11, 2010

    Some of yall really hate Beyonce personally…lol…wow…strong language…lol…this much hate for someone you dont even know….lmao…..and for the oens that dislike her so much,,..you know alot of info on her…..doing your research on someone you dislike…..accounts for being a STAN……POW….lmao..

  178. “Dj Y2k Malone” July 11, 2010

    ~TeAM WeeZY~

    July 11, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    @DJY2KMalone

    What? What does Rihanna have to do with anything?

    ________________________________________________________________________

    she has a lot to do with it the same stans were calling Rihanna out for not writing some things on her rated r album saying she just added one word and got credit but Beyonce get a free pass come on now what’s fair is fair
    if it’s good for one it’s good for all

  179. miss one July 11, 2010

    That Grape Juice gets a standing ovation for posting this
    the s*** has hit the fan

  180. OB July 11, 2010

    @TeamWeezy

    If it was just one story from a little old blog then we can challenge the legitamacy of Beyonce’s troubled copyright infringement lawsuits. But you google: Beyonce’s Legal Troubles or YouTube it and it is what it is. Admit that the b**** is about her business but it seems to be biting her in the ass instead of trying to justify her f*** up. Ya look delusional with a Napolean complex. No shade though, I have no music industry knowledge so I do thank you and Beyonce for the information. So that I’m clear, you dont have to write a song to receive credit for writing a song……GOT IT! *sips tea*

  181. “Dj Y2k Malone” July 11, 2010

    OB

    July 11, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    @TeamWeezy

    If it was just one story from a little old blog then we can challenge the legitamacy of Beyonce’s troubled copyright infringement lawsuits. But you google: Beyonce’s Legal Troubles or YouTube it and it is what it is. Admit that the b**** is about her business but it seems to be biting her in the ass instead of trying to justify her f*** up. Ya look delusional with a Napolean complex. No shade though, I have no music industry knowledge so I do thank you and Beyonce for the information. So that I’m clear, you dont have to write a song to receive credit for writing a song……GOT IT! *sips tea*

    ________________________________________________________________________

    LOL you just dragged TeamWeezy for the gods

  182. Mark July 11, 2010

    so now why dont the Beyonce stans boycott this site like the rihanna stans and it will be a nice place again get to stepping LOL

  183. Yellow Gorrilah July 11, 2010

    This is why I dont like beyonce

    I have tried to like her she is talanted but as a human being she is just plain old EVIL, greedy, Money Hungry like how the hell can you support such a person then she goes arond acting all sweet then she goes on stage popping her p****

    Beyonce tome is tooo FAKE|! i dont care..I like an artist not just because of their music but because of there personality and shee does not have that , SHE IS GREAT yes even I know that but she still lacks something for me to buy her ish,,I cannot

    And I also agree she is the most OVERATED ARTIST IN HISTORY like please Queen B =|.
    16 Grammy like come on some of the greates musicians dont even have 16 so how the HEL IS SHE going to get 16 the grammys have become a JOKE! so I hate when her stans throw that out at us like her having 16 grammys dont mean s*** because she did not DESERVE them ,, sorry she is just fake i cant use her ..good bye

  184. JCGemini22 July 11, 2010

    Wow..its been a minute since I posted. MORE JANET please JANET. lol Anyways, very true. Beyonce is what TALENT is. You have to give her credit and props where they are due because she has handled hers for over a straight DECADE. With both herself and Destinys Child, B has certainly proved just what BANG said at the end of the clip, she’s a BOSS. Plain and simple. But to the haters out there who don’t understand the inner workings of the industry, as SAM put it, think back. Regardless of NOW (where I am sure songs are pouring out of the walls for Bouncy to vocalize on!) think back to a young Beyonce, barely 18, making it pop from then on out. THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL…enough said. xxo

  185. TheBaddestBitch July 11, 2010

    “Some of yall really hate Beyonce personally…lol…wow…strong language…lol…this much hate for someone you dont even know….lmao…..and for the oens that dislike her so much,,..you know alot of info on her…..doing your research on someone you dislike…..accounts for being a STAN……POW….lmao..”

    Your comment is an EPIC FAIL: I know and LOVE music, grammys history etc… and that’s why I can say she’s the most ovverated artist EVER and that b**** will never have credibility anyway.

    BYE

  186. S*** July 12, 2010

    @ Yellow Gorrilah

    The grammys are NOT like the Bet awards, they dont just give awards out you dumb B****.

    @ DJK

    Where were you when the “Rihanna’s tour is Flopping” was posted??

  187. S*** July 12, 2010

    Bey = ICON. 16 DESERVED Grammys B****, More than some legends… MAD??

  188. TheBaddestBitch July 12, 2010

    Bey: Fakest “artist” EVER

    16 ROBBED & PAID Grammys.

    More than legends like Aretha, Prince, or even Michael Jackson = JOKE

    No we’re not mad but clever, thanks boo 🙂

  189. NAS ( B Rockah Stan 4eva) July 12, 2010

    I for one still questioning the grammys. Come on guys before artist earn grammys but these day…….. I rest my case!!!

  190. Anne July 12, 2010

    Beyonce has no serious crossover female competition, that’s why she deserves all of her Grammys. The music world was much more saturated with talent back in the Aretha and Michael days. Now there’s just too many so-called vocalists that have recording contracts based solely on their looks or ability to shake their behinds. Beyonce on the other hand has the whole package. Nowadays her major competition is artists like Taylor, Gaga, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Kei$ha, etc. Now who do you think deserves to win Grammys in that group? How many other artists had two albums to qualify during the last Grammy year other than Beyonce (Sasha Fierce & soundtrack for Cadillac Records)? Beyonce kills her competition partly because she works twice as hard. Who is a better contemporary all-around performer right now? She clearly deserves those Grammy awards.

  191. Mark July 12, 2010

    @ S***
    this isn’t about Rihanna’s so called flop tour this is about Beyonce stealing songs
    your girl just got busted

  192. Anne July 12, 2010

    BTW, my favorite artists are Prince, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Teena Marie, Rick James, Madonna & Beyonce (in that order). Beyonce is the only contemporary performer that I think deserves to be added to that list based on her complete solo body of music (including unreleased material), vocal skills, stage presence, and choreograhy. Of course there are other contemporary artists that I appreciate to a certain extent or have a few songs that I like here or there, but Beyonce stands out among them all and has cemented her place on that list.

  193. “Dj Y2k Malone” July 12, 2010

    humm i wonder who is next

  194. Yellow Gorrilah July 12, 2010

    @S***

    Sit yo ass down! u dame fool.

    I dont think she derserves 16 grammys. yes she is great but the bish is way to overated she aint no janet she aint no whitney so can we please stop with this hype. she can sing but she aint amazing she can dance but she aint an amazing dancer. the whole grammy thing is a SCAM! she robbed them grammys.. we all know she got people inside the grammy commite beyonce is a scandel which i canot use i dont give a f*** how talented she is or how much money she be making. plus money is the source of evil. beyonce aint getting my money *good day

  195. яəCONSTʁUCT THA ⓘNdUSTRYy;; July 12, 2010

    VOTED The Top 30 BEST Touring Artists in the World right now
    30. Maroon 5
    29. Lady Gaga
    28. Rod Stewart
    27. Pink
    26. Enrique Iglesias
    25. Shakira
    24. Poison
    23. Usher
    22. Rascal Flatts
    21. Green Day
    20. KISS
    19. Kenny Rogers
    18. Gloria Estefan
    17. Taylor Swift
    16. Fleetwood Mac
    15. Carrie Underwood
    14. Elton John
    13. Britney Spears
    12. Bruce Springsteen
    11. Eagles
    10. The Rolling Stones
    9. Beyonce
    8. Madonna
    7. Aerosmith
    6. Sir Paul McCartney
    5. Bon Jovi
    4. Janet Jackson
    3. Celine Dion
    2. U2
    1. Tina Turner

    Beyonce came in at #9! The youngest in the top 10…. She is definitely a beast. She’s amongst sooooo many legends

  196. FactBeyonceRocks July 12, 2010

    I dont care, she is still on top apart from Oprah of course, and she is still earning a lot than your fav artists which shows shes damn great at what she does. besides there still no proof that she doesnt write.

  197. ~Team Weezy~ July 12, 2010

    @OB

    LMAOOO! ANY urban blog has ish about people questioning her writing skills/credit. DUH! That’s what I mean by HEARSAY, sweetheart! When ish gets around it’ll definitely stick in peoples’ heads as well as blogs. And of course if you searching for ish on Beyonce’s copyright infringement you’re bound to find it, no? She’s not the only artist that this applies to, there are others, but because she’s [Beyonce] it’s a bit different, which I can understand. Don’t be that simple minded, check other artists copyright infringement. K?

    Now don’t choke on that tea you’re sipping. You’re the one who’s clueless as to what the writing process is, honey. First by thinking there’s a specific definition for writing/co-writing. And thinking that “words” are the only means of writing! Just because it’s called “writing” doesn’t necessarily mean that other aspects of the song don’t apply to the “writing”, boo boo. So that YOU DO have it clear, you don’t have to write a song to receive credit for writing a song, idiot! Geez! Now do you “GOT IT?” But I won’t be surprised if you didn’t because you seem as if you took some remedial courses during school. But no shade to you either. However, you might wanna try again. K? 😉

    @DJ Y2K Malone

    Hmmm, maybe you should go buy more of those discounted tickets for that um……what is it?……..um……..Sheez……um……..Oh yeah, Last Girl On Earth tour thingy. You’re one to talk about “dragging,” when that tour has been dragged and possibly going damn near 6 feet under, child. Deceasing as we speak. You might wanna try again, too. 🙂

  198. Baron July 12, 2010

    If adding her name to production and songwriting credits ensures that she gets a piece of the pie, which we all know she’s worked very hard for, then so be it. Like many others here have said, it’s not as if her name is the only one on the credits. She works with a swarm of producers/writers and they all receive credit on the albums.

    PLUS….let’s be real – there is no shortage of people wanting to work with Beyonce, and I’m sure there’s an understanding in the music business that to work with certain artists means doing business the way they like it. Is it unfair? Maybe. Illegal? Doesn’t sound like it, as writers and beatmakers are free to take their business elsewhere.

    As much money as there is to be made in publishing royalties, no reason why B shouldn’t be getting a share of the profits – look at TLC and Toni Braxton. They were selling millions of albums and didn’t have a penny to show for it.

  199. Tyler July 12, 2010

    I think proof is Ne-Yo saying pretty directly that he wrote Irreplaceable when the issue came up then.

    That said, this happens ALL the time. She’s only the most shameless example.

  200. LadyPegLeg July 12, 2010

    To get writing credit, all you have to do is add a word. That is how Diddy gets his writing credits. Could be the same for B.

  201. Tia July 12, 2010

    Well I’m really on the fence about what to say about Beyonce’. I agree with 90% of ya’ll up here that Beyonce’ is a fabalous singer…there’s not denying that but as a song writer well it’s quite obvious that Beyonce’ dont’ write all her songs. Personally my favorite Beyonce’ album was her first one “Dangerously In Love.” It was phenomenial but I do believe Missy Elliott and Jay-Z helped out a GREAT DEAL that’s why it was so hot. She may have written “Daddy” and A gift from Virgo but the rest I dont’ think she wrote the songs. As far as her Destiny’s Child work well yeah I think she wrote those pop cornish songs but they turned out hot. I agree with some of ya’ll she is a bit overrated but s** and fake sells seems like. Lol. Whatever the truth is Beyonce’ I respect the hustle but don’t respect how you going about it. I believe a person deserves credit on whatever they do. As far as the name order on the album we all know that Bey’s name should go last on most of her songs. Lol. Don’t get mad at me it’s the truth.

  202. Anne July 12, 2010

    Where’s the judgment against her? Anyone can file a lawsuit and the more high-profile the artist is, the more-likely someone will file something against them but it’s a waste of time to speculate on this until someone successfully sues her for falsifying credits. Bangladesh’s speculative comments probably mean that for some songs where she has writing credits she had minimal input BUT minimal input can be enough to legally entitle you to songwriting credits; why shouldn’t she, like many other recording artists, take advantage of that legal right?

  203. Realitycheck July 12, 2010

    “Beyonce is what TALENT is”…seriously? The worship is shameless. The matter at hand is whether she is willingly misleading ppl about her writing abilities…And for the record, when you have a snake for a manager that will do anything to keep you on top, it’s a a done deal. Her success comes from having a solid brand that’s been massively shoved down the throats of the general public for years. She has over-saturated the market. She can dance…Ciara can dance better. She can sing…so can others. We all know it’s clearly not about how well you sing in today’s industry cuz where is Brandy? Cristina just flopped. Leona flopped. Tiffany Evans remains largely unnoticed despite being a powerhouse vocalist.

  204. TheBaddestBitch July 13, 2010

    Beyoncé is not a legend yet btw…

  205. Bobby from Bulgaria July 13, 2010

    I still think that her 1st album “Dangerously In Love” was the best and the rest were not so impressive… Especially the last one…

    And if she really did write for the first and (as we all suspect) didn’t for the last ones then maybe it’s ABOUT TIME she takes it slow and puts out some REAL GOOD OWN music like back in the days of “Baby Boy”, “Crazy In Love”, “Naughty Girl” and stuff like that…

  206. Cc July 13, 2010

    Honestly, people dont care if she write her songs or not, thier still buying her album b/c she is beyonce & shes huge. If it were a lower end artist then they would get slammed on! but because its B, shes good. Its bad, its a shame that people dont look for creativity in an artist anymore & that they dont even care if the person has true talent (this includes being able to write, sing and perform all your work) Music audiences have lowered thier standards for music all together over time which is why we’ve ended up w/ the crappy music we have 2day. like the old ppl say “yalll don’t know what real music is”…Beyonce is a great performer, but are we really getting her when she sings? Music is therapy for fans who feel a connection to the celebrity they love, if she hasnt lived what shes singing or written it, do you still feel as connected? Thats just a lil food for thought. Who is Beyonce REALLY? If this is not her music?

  207. Anna July 15, 2010

    Beyonce disgusts me. SMH!

  208. Te July 26, 2010

    I am a huge fan of Beyonce, but I am noSTAN…because the way I see Beyonce need no one to stand for her. You guys fail to realize that Beyonce was hated on as far back as Destiny’s Child days, and she will continue to be hated on because of the huge success that she is in the US and overseas. For years people have continually try to break this girl, but I am so happy she never let the negativity get to her. It seems all the negativity just pushes her to work harder.

  209. hip hop music October 12, 2012

    Wait what??Here we go. Lol.

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