Pop queen Janet Jackson rocked the music industry over the weekend with confirmation of a new album and world tour.
In the time since, speculation has been rife about the specifics of the project. When will it arrive? Which label is releasing it? And what kind of tour is she prepping?
While concrete details are scarce, new reports are suggesting the legendary diva is mulling over signing a lucrative deal with Live Nation – which would encompass the music and touring aspects of her return.
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Showbiz 411‘s Roger Friedman reports:
Janet Jackson’s new album. We think it’s called “Conversations in a Cafe.” We know it’s produced by Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis of FlyteTime, her long time musical collaborators. We also know it’s NOT with L.A. Reid at Epic (See: ‘Discipline)’, or at Atlantic Records. It’s probably not ready for July 10th, I’ve heard. It’s still being worked on.
However: the word is that Janet may be making a 360 deal with LiveNation, a la Madonna or U2 or Nickelback. In that case, LiveNation would handle the tour and license “Conversations.” Janet’s tour is going to be key to the whole thing. I think it could be HUGE. She cooled off a few years ago, got married, took time off. People miss her. With the right music she can make a big comeback now.
Why LiveNation? Let’s be reasonable. Janet’s not doing a deal with AEGLive, after Michael’s death etc. Right? And after album crashes from JLO, Mariah, and others, someone has explained to her that albums by artists of a certain age are not going to sell 1 million copies. So a 360 deal is just right.
Harris and Jackson have been dropping clues for weeks, on Twitter.
And which label? I could see Warner Bros., which also brought back Prince this year. And you could see Janet’s catalogue going there since it’s spread out everywhere. But remember– Virgin EMI was where Janet made her biggest deal in 1996. Virgin is now part of Capitol Records, which is Universal Music. That would be a natural fit for the LiveNation deal. We’ll see.
Interesting.
Granted much of this is conjecture, the Live Nation aspect of things would definitely be an intriguing development – should it come to fruition.
As one of music’s most iconic performers, re-affixing the focus on Janet as touring force would be smart.
What’s more, such deals tend to be flexible when it it comes to pairing up with a label. For, when an entity like Live Nation “licences” an album to a major label to distribute, it’s often on a project-by-project basis. Put simply, then, it means while Jackson’s new album could drop on Warner, the follow-up could easily be “licensed” to an entirely different label. On a surface level, it’s much less restrictive than a traditional album deal and allows the artist to explore different options with each LP.
In any case, we’re super excited to see how this all plays out.
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Janet can do no wrong in my eyes; I just want the album to drop. And maybe she can do a feature with B-Rocka or Mimi.
Her music career is over
Yo mammy is over
Your trolling career is over!
Tell that ho @truth (I luv Nicki)! Did you see that Nicki and Bey video??? Seethe h**..:
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Back on topic, Janet is the original Queen!!!! I can’t wait to see her in concer
It’s obvious you’re not inclined to recognize talent,it never dies.
…and you fave will latch on like glue on a donkey’s a***.
Heeeeyyyy truth siiemen boooo!! Icki made the vid a FLOP honey!!! But Janet is the original queen. We both agree.
Your whole family is over
Ok but did you buy Disvipoline? Has that scanned 150k? Maybe it has, but no ones talking about it/talked about it
Oh god. Huge typo *discipline.
“Disvipoline” sold over 500k in the U.S, try again!
Shut up u drunk! Deciplibe is well over gold…so eat it
Discipline is gold! With almost no promo. I can’t wait for a new Janet album. Even her worst albums are still better than what most put out.
Discipline sold 507,000 in the U.S. and is Gold in Japan, world’s second biggest market.
Discipline sold more than that in just the FIRST week troll!
I’m excited. I have never been to a concert of hers but I really plan to go this time. Hopefully she comes to Chicago or Rosemont IL, or even Indiana!
Janet tours are a MUST SEE my friend! Few do it on her level!
You must attend a Janet concert! I’m near Chicago, by Great America actually, and would love to gather a group of Janet fans to attend!! Janet fans are loyal!
Ok come thru queen
I’m sure Janet chose the option that allows her to have the most creative control (regarding the album set up, single selections, etc). I’m just ready for the new music & tour! I know Janet must have 1000 ideas that she want to bring to life these days! #GotMeSoExcited
Btw, I love that photo of Janet (with all the super- fierce Janet pics floating around near her feet)! Gorg!
Janet slays. She is almost 50 shitting on Mariah
Trolling bittch…
What does Mariah even have to do with Janet? Why are you trolling?
Speak on it girl, Mariah’s a flop.
Lololol
mmmmm @Aaliyah Stan, if you’re going to troll don’t agree with your fake account. SMH
I’m so excited! I can not wait cuz I know once she starts, she won’t be stopping no time soon.
Yaaaasssss bish yes!!
When will Kim Su?
Has the pinkshit went platinum?? Has roman reflopped?? 😐 Kim has a machine pushn her and nickis machine steal from the biitch.
Shut up fat b****
Honey only thing fat on me is my pusssy. Stank breath THOT BOT ho.
Meanwhile, lil Kim’s reality show will be making its debut on YouTube. Can you say webisodes… Nicki about to slay some more with round 2 of her promotion. Great album equals longevity microwave ho.
Nobody cares. Have a seat!
How many platinum albums does Nicki have? Grammy awards? #1 songs? What number did TPP debut at? What/who blocked her from a #1 album? What’s the other rapper’s name that had a #1 song on Billboard before Nicki?
All these questions. Poor Nickelodeon.
LOLOLOL TRUTH DEY DRAAAAAGN U FOR FILTH HONEY LOLOL!!!! Betta jump off that Nicki train…u c its derailing lolol!!!
Baby, that Nicki train is certifiable!!!
This album will be fiyaaaaaaaaa!!! “Conversation in the cafe” yes! The title alone >>>>
When will icki’s ever b fire again tho biitch?? 😐
Queue that feeling myself video. Slayed urban chart, about to slay pop chart. Get into that Ho.
Lolol aint!! Lolol
Terryb Janet will mos def come to Chicago! Mos def! Its where Janet partly grew up and spent much time! I’m in that area and I would love to round up some Janet fans so we could all go together! I have been to 3 of Janet concerts and like Royalkev stated “Janet concerts are a must see”. Janets Up Close & Personal tour was very basic, there was no props, just Janet and the stage! So this time around Janet is going to do it BIG!
Janet grew up in California. she was only 2 or 3 when the fam moved to Cali.
Janet did Good Times in Chicago, she and her mother did stay in Chicago for the filming! I know my Janet info. I am aware Janet grew up in Cali, but if you have ever been to one of her concerts in Chicago, Janet also calls Chicago HOME! As she also does with NY. Thanks though.
Another artist that owns her music masters. You’re not a queen until you own your music. ????
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Janet is no fool, she’ll make the best deal because she really doesn’t HAVE to come back when you’re a billionaire. I just want a tour and a great album, Janet (from Control to Rope) makes the best albums with concept and themes. I want interludes and all. It’s more than just albums, J writes books ????.
Janet changed pop/r&b music as we know it. TVR and RN are, in my opinion, the two best female pop albums of all time.
let’s be honest now, her last album was hyped just as much if not more than this one and it was labeled a commercial failure, so what makes yall think she’ll do any better this time? the new generation barely knows who she is. I see her doing Madonna numbers or worse
Her last album cane out 2 years after 20yo, and that came out 2 year after Jo and that was right after nipplegate. She never took a break and made the public miss her like now. I think you’re mistaking comeback as if she’s going to be Beyonce’s or Rihanna. No, she been there done that, this is next level ish. This album can do 300 to 500k and that would be a success in this time. Prince isn’t competing with the new kids, he does his own thing, Janet will do the same. You think Mariah, Grandonna and J.lo will ever go gold again? No, thise days are done, but they can tour because tours is all about the catalog. Janet will be fine.
Honey dont explain nothing to that hatin ho. Let her seethe!
@truth(nicki the reason AI is cancelled and Meek playn ha!!) says:
……………and weep, F them.
This is more like Justin’s comeback. He was also gone for 7 years. It’s a big deal. With the right music, the right imagine and the right promo, I can see this being a huge success. Of course, everything will need to line up. Regardless, if the music is great, it will be a welcome return for anyone who loved her music in the past. She has a massive legacy and I’m just excited to get one more album from her.
Janet is SO loyal, I was actually hoping that Janet did not work with Jimmy & Terry this time around! This time, & with an entire album, Janet needs to work with producers who arent her friends!! If Janet does work with Jam & Lewis I hope its only for a couple of songs. What OTHER projects have they done in the last 8 years? I would like to see Janet do something with B-Rocka, or The Dream, and Neyo can do some of Janets slower jams! What ya’ll think??
Kill yourself. She tried that new crap with JD. Jim and Terry is to Janet what Timberland and Missy/Static was to Aaliyha. Or Timberland is to JT, Dallas Austin is to TLC, Q Jones is to MJ, Dre is to Em. You don’t throw them away and work with the NEW, you’ll end up like Ciara.
Not saying throw them away!! They have made history but Janet needs the likes of B-Rocka, Neyo, or The Dream on this new album! Nothing wrong with working with new artists! That kill yourself remark should be void! Its pathetic! It was uncalled for! Janet fans dont talk like that!!
@ jae she has already worked with Neyo and the Dream. Janet is better on her own.
@Jae
Discipline was that album. She didn’t work with Jimmy and Terry. She didn’t write or produce ANY of the songs which was unusual for Janet.
She worked with The Dream, Neyo, Stargate, and a host of others on Discipline.
By the way ‘This can’t be good’ is an amazing Neyo track, Janet did on Discipline! So Good.
@ Anastasia Beaverhousen YES, I enjoyed Discipline! And I enjoyed the tour/concert even more! I own the cd and wasnt even aware Ne-yo did any songs on it! Its been awhile. I will be checking to make sure your correct. I still feel Janet has to do something a little different vocally. Many radio dj’s say Janet whispers as she sings. In any event I love her & I can not wait to see what Janet is going to do with the new album and tour!!
YASSSS Discipline was everythang! I loved the little interludes with Kyoko, I need an automated system like that in my home #PenthouseGoals
You were right about Neyo having worked on Janet discipline e cd, however did I say you were wrong? I said I had to do a fact check since I had not looked thru the credits in years and didnt remember. Howeverwe will not agree to disagree on the matter of Rene writing many of Janet songs! So you would like me to send u info on where you can view where Janet herself states that Rene wrote ” Almost all” her songs? I certainly will do so when I get some more free time. No worries! 🙂
@Jae you said B-Rocka I mean the only B-Rocka I know is Brandy?
It is, but I thought u directly meant Brandy herself verses her hit maker. Thats why I made that statement. Good collabo tho.
You certainly had enough free time to address the allegations all day, but not enough to find one article that asserts what Janet allegedly said about Janet?
You are playing semantics and not as slick as you think.
You will never find that article because it doesn’t exist.
And when you tell me you have to research what can easily be proved, you’re implying I was incorrect! If not you would have just researched the facts without letting me know.
Also you say you never said Janet should work with Brandy, but you said
B-Rocka, is that Brandy?
You seem full of conjecture and contradictions dear.
We will have to agree to disagree until you find the time to find your fairytale articles that were never written.
If you can’t prove your assertions like I proved mine then why are you pushing the issue?
You can’t make me believe your fairytale!
Lol, you are tedious and benign. I thought Mark 111 was being cruel, but I agree with his vulgarity towards you..
And in the meantime put up or shut up because you look foolish arguing something you can’t prove…
She tried that and it didn’t work Janet,Jimmy & Terry are a united front they are The Three Muskateers One for all and all for one. She made her historical and best music with them they stuck with through thick & then,the good & the bad,& through her happiness & her heartache those two men know her best they are more then just her friends they are her family.
@Shady81 you are right indeed! They are family! However do you and others not dare give much deserving credit to Rene Elizondo Janet ex husband who slayed on Rhythm Nation, Janet, and The Velvet Rope albums??? Dont just give credit to Jam & Lewis divorced or not Rene earned some credit on which Janet even gives/gave him. He wrote many songs, helped with choreography, toured with Janet, but he was not on that stage as she “Danced until her feet were sore”! TRUTH!
@Shady81
You broke that down! Lmao! You are right Rene directed like three of Jan’s videos, and had a MINOR role in concepts according to people who were there like Tina.
He did some background vocals too, that’s about it.
I guess we should be giving big props to Johnny Gill for background vocals and finger snaps on the RN album too! Lol!
Rene didn’t write the songs. Janet,Jimmy Jam,& Terry Lewis did and here are the receipts I have right in font of me.
Control Era:What have you done for me lately. Producer Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis flyte time productions Co- Producer Janet Jackson Executive Producer John McCain
Written by Janet,Jimmy & Terry
Nasty: producers Jimmy & Terry
Co- Producer Janet Jackson
Written by Jimmy,Terry,& Janet
When I think of you: Producer Jimmy,& Terry
Written by Jimmy,Terry,& Janet
Co-Producer Janet
Control: producer Jimmy & Terry co- producer Janet Jackson written by Janet, Terry,& Jimmy
The Pleasure Principal written by Monte Moir produced by Monte Moir Co- Produced by Janet & Steve Weise
Now Rhythmn Nation 1814 Era. Rhythmn Nation: writers/produced Janet,Jimmy,& Terry
Rene Elizondo provided background vocals
Miss you much Produced by Jimmy & Terry.
Love will never do without you
Produced by Jimmy & Terry
Background vocals provided by
Steve Hodge,Rene Elizondo, & Anthony Thomas
Alright: written by Janet, Jimmy & Terry.
Black Cat Written/produce by Janet Jackson
Background vocals provided by
Rene Elizondo, Jelly bean Johnson,John McCain
Escapade written/produced by Janet, Jimmy & Terry
Janet Era: That’s the way love goes written/produced by Janet,Jimmy & Terry
You want this:written/produced by Janet,Jimmy & Terry
IF:Written/Produced by Janet,Jimmy,& Terry
Again:Written/Produced Janet,Jimmy,Terry
Any time, Any Place,
Written/produce:Janet,Jimmy,
Terry.
Velvet Rope Era:Janet,Jimmy & Terry did some writing/Producing along with other producers and writers Rene had some input on certain songs along with those other producers and writers but that was just for Velvet Rope (which Janet was going through a very deep and depressive stage in her life.) But he didn’t help with Rhythmn Nation 1814 only on background vocals and the Control Album he wasn’t nowhere to be found he did although start as her backup dancer which he was featured in the video Nasty
And speaking of backup you said Rene did Janet’s Choreography. Well I beg to differ he wasn’t in the Control Era it was Paula Abdul & Terry Baxter
Rhythmn Nation Era Anthony Thomas and then later Tina Landon (for Love will never do without you)
Janet Through Velvet Rope Era
Tina Landon. Where in the hell
Was Rene a Choreograher all I seen was Tina, Anthony,Paula, and Terry Baxter. Sorry you input hit a major snag now he may had minor input but this is what Rene’s real role. He was the hands that was placed over Janet’s boob fo the Rolling Stone Cover, he followed her around helping her with Errands which he was her personal(errand boy) and in Anthony Thomas radio interview her somewhat help Tony and Janet with picking the dancers but Tony did Majority with Janet and the concept of what she wanted and in all of Janet thru Velvet Rope was all Janet And Tina no Rene it was said that there was friction between Tina & Rene because he was always in the way and he wouldn’t let her do her job with Janet, basically making Janet p*** with him. But I guess it’s heresay. And he directed That’s the way love goes,and I think Again and the remix of together again. But that’s it her was mainly her errand boy
I mean that’s probably what she was telling Rene when she had that interlude on the Janet Album. “Now be a good boy and put this on”. I mean you never know. But it doesn’t take ten million dollars to do as little of a Job as little that he did for Janet believe me he probably blackmailed her
For that money cause he was probably ticked that Tina was getting all Janet’s attention and not him.
@Shady81
You broke that down! Lmao! You are right Rene directed like three of Jan’s videos, and had a MINOR role in concepts according to people who were there like Tina.
He did some background vocals too, that’s about it.
I guess we should be giving big props to Johnny Gill for background vocals and finger snaps on the RN album too! Lol!
OOOOP gurl you did that! The receipt was so detailed and long we ran out of paper *reloads printer*
Thanks T.I.T.S Had to let @Jae know he had me heated for a minute talking about Janet divorce Rene and stuff so what. hell I was writing so fast on my Note 4 that I called Rene a her. And what he fail to realize is before Rene got with Janet while Janet was married to James Debarge, Renee worked for Latoya Jackson as a background dancer back in the early 80’s. So Rene wasn’t some off the street dancer he was all up in the Jacksons mix,that fool had me pulling out all four of those Janet CD’S from the time Rene was with her and I had go memorize the back of Janets Damita Jo and Design of a Decade the videos DVD to check all my facts so I can get Jae together he done tried me and had the audacity to try Janet In the Words of Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis Rene didn’t see a pin nor paper to write anything and if Jae doesn’t believe me he can go to YouTube to check out E! Hollywood True Story on Janet Jackson like I told him Rene was her Errand Boy when Janet needed food her got it for her when she needed a beverage he got that for her hell I bet you Rene was holding the damn toilet paper for Janet when she needed to take a p*** or s*** when she went to the bathroom, and if you listen to son of a gun Missy coins the verse “You didn’t need me you wanted to be me”. Hmmm you know that came from Janet but while her and Rene was going through their divorce Janet couldn’t diss him publicly well the lawsuit he filed against Janet in the divorce decreed didn’t say that Janet could use those words and evoke them onto another person. Because if she was to say it he would’ve came out with a tell-all-book about his time with her, so basically blackmailing her that’s why she gave him ten million dollars in the divorce Jae made seem he did so much when Rene did so little hell Janet former dancers( and personally to me her best dancers from the Rhythmn Nation to Janet Era which included a couple of those dancers still working with her in the Velvet Rope Era Kelly Konno if I spelled her name right I don’t know. Nicole Pattienburg she’s now babyfaces wife and Shawnette Heard were her best dancers and you can’t forget legendary dancer Choreographer Tina Landon whom work with Janet since 1985 and she also worked with Paula Abdul as a Laker Girl. Was her best dancers) knew he didn’t do much as well as Jimmy and Terry he probably was jealous of Tina getting all of Janet’s undevine attention. Well like Janet told her little Errand boy Rene Now be a good little boy and put this on.
Anastasia and Shady 81 you are both wrong!! Do we need to exchange phone numbers or sumn?? RENE could wrote 37 count em, 37 of Janet songs! He could wrote songs on Rhythm Nation, & The Velvet Rope! Just to name a few Rene co wrote “Thats The Way Love Goes, Together Again, Black Cat, Come Back To Me, and Rhythm Nation”, just to name a few! Rene did not take credit for tbis , but Janet always verbally stated that “HE played a role in almost all my songs but refused to take credit”. Janet told Rolling Stones Magazine ” he could wrote almost all my songs since RN! ” On the Velvet Rope he appears for the 1st time as Co- Executive Producer AND CO- WRITER. Janet & Rene worked together creatively for 13 years! I have been a huge fan since I was a kid. My info IS correct. Thanks Anastasia & Shady!
I meant Co- Wrote not could wrote! Oops!
@Jae
If he refused credit for the songs how do you know he wrote 37?
Why would he take credit as a video director and as a vocalist, but not as a
songwriter?
Why not keep your name off everything, if your such a sacrificial lamb?
Where is your receipts for Janet saying that exact quote?
‘Playing a role’ doesn’t mean songwriter. It could mean Rene inspired Janet and she wrote about their relationship.
So if we are wrong then provide your receipts.
So far you have been wrong in saying Janet needs to work with Neyo and the Dream like she hasn’t already.
I told you she worked with them on ‘Discipline’ and you said you had to check my facts.
Since you have that album, look at the
liner notes to see my facts are in order..
Show me where Janet says Rene wrote 37 songs, and I will declare that you got one right hun! Cause I don’t see it anywhere!
Anastasia are u seriously stating that Rene did NOT write any of Janet songs? What’s up with these receipts you speak of? I am actually at work and dont keep my janet CD’s with me. I work in RC so I’m literally at work 4 1/2 days for 24 hrs.
Did u read my statement incorrectly? Did I not state that even Janet stated that Rene co-wrote almost all her songs from RN to TVR! Janet stated that she felt it fraudulent on his part not hers & Janet wanted the truth to be told!
How do u not know all this! I may have forgotten and still dont remember Neyo writing for Janet, but this I know for a fact!!! Is it my fault that Janet stated that Rene refused to take credit because he wanted her to climb high? We can debate this all day. Its no shade whatsoeva! I love & adore her & I know what I know. Smiles.
By the way I’m a her not a him as Shady81called me.
Well you are still work writing on the internet, so you can Google or wiki the discipline album, and get the facts I gave.
Also, I never said Rene did not write anything for Janet, I said his ‘writing’ was not as prolific as 37 songs.
I never read an article where Janet ever claimed that but would be interested to see that.
Of course Rene played a part, of Janet’s team but he was not even close to the backbone of anything.
Anywho, if you can find that receipt about 37 songs or him co writing all those albums, with Janet saying that I would like to see it.
Post it when you’re done with work..
Or we can agree to disagree on that one.
Get him Anastasia he’s trying to try both of us now I just read that you just got him together on his misinformation about the discipline album and had the nerve to say they want to exchange phone numbers(straight up side eye I’m giving right about now)to that person. Oh by the way I looked in my Janet Rhythmn Nation 1814 CD Janet,Jimmy & Terry wrote/Produced that to not Rene. Like Jimmy & Terry said Rene didn’t put pen nor paper to anything and Jae had the nerve to tell you Anastasia he would check your facts LMFAO that fool, you’re right Anastasia Ne-Yo did write Discipline I even heard the demo for the song and didn’t he write another song for her? And I remember The Dream said in a n interview that he wrote for Janet, I don’t have the discipline album but I do recall both saying they worked with her. @Jae steady trying to convince us his truths but he want Janet to work with Brandy LMFAO just like another commenter said Janet working with other producers won’t cut it. It’s not classic Janet, Janet,Jimmy,& Terry belong together that’s magic just like Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones & Rod Temperton, even when The Dream works with Beyonce that’s magic. @Jae just need to stop arguing with us because it’s pointless we know what were talking about and their arguing to the point where they have no fact bases until then they just need to leave well enough alone.
Get it right. Where did I state that I wanted Janet to work with Brandy?? I do like Brandy though. Good one, but incorrect.
I meant Jimmy,Janet & Terry wrote/Produce Come Back to me not Rene.
Actually @Jae is right, I remember hearing Janet say that in an interview a long time ago that Rene “co-wrote” with her on all those songs, but didn’t want to take any credits for it. And I’m an OG Janet fan, she really did say that, but to prove how much and what he actually wrote, there are no receipts for that…hell YouTube it. They were probably laying in bed together coming up with ideas and him helping her…so what…big deal…I’m sure she’ll do just fine without him
Cosigning yourself as @Troy does nothing to prove you point @Jae.
I don’t care what you ‘two’ remember. I would like either of you to show me a source that Janet said Rene cowrote her songs all the era’s she was with him!
I haven’t seen it on YouTube or Google! Where is this mysterious confession?
Nowhere. Lies. Balderdash. Nonsense.
And Janet was still slaying after she left Rene.
Stop with the your sure she will be fine without him. Give me a break.
No proof, No pudding. So save your memories for people who give a Damn, cause their not here..
And @Troy. Since when is ‘probably’ a fact?
The big deal is discussing you work with your spouse does not amount to co-writing!
You troy/jae sound like you may be Rene, with sour grapes and regrets.
If not why do you care to try and act like this personal assistant to the Queen was pulling strings!
Pathetic, and so obviously not a fan of the Queen..
I am an ‘OG’ Janet fan and read pretty much all interviews with her. I never read any of the b.s. y’all are supposing.
Maybe you can’t find the interview because it was conducted by Jem and the Holograms and the Misfits stole the tape.
Maybe if you contact Synergy she can help retrieve it!
#ShowTimeSynergy
#MyStoryMakesMoreSense
#YouCan’tFindWhatDoesn’tExsist
#SheStillHere
#He’sBeenKicked
#GetOverIt
No Anastasia didn’t just read/Drag @Jae & @Troy
forever loving filth I just got my life Love that Jem & The Holograms Synergy and the misfits line it looks like @Jae still trying to convince us that Rene wrote songs I’ve been done with his ass I knew he couldn’t back up his statement because around 2000 Rene sued Janet for that ten million dollars.
Hey Anastasia this is too too funny and it’s about to be round Two I’ve been a Janet fan since I was 5 years old when she made her epic revamping/revivalizing comeback in 1986 then I didn’t even know who she was until 1989 when Rhythmn Nation came out and I also like Michael Jackson but hated the thriller video because it use to scare the s*** out of me and make me cry because I th I thought he was really an ugly monster untill I saw his Bad Video era and had such a little crush on him. But enough about me they way you drug @Jae hilarious and @Troy damn shame but as for @Jae I did further research on YouTube and still her recipients doesn’t hold any measure to them I came across a Diane Sawyer Interview back in 2001 when she started the divorce and she stated that well Diane Sawyer commented that Rene threated Janet with the exposure of bisexuality and her having sexual relations with her backup dancers and Choreographers when Diane ask Janet about how she felt about Rene’s Betrayal you could tell she was hurting and she loved him but still hurt she said her and her dancers lay in bed and watch movies together there’s nothing sexual going on she’s her and her friends are just affectionate like that with each other but nothing like what Rene was insinuating and that was in the divorce fileing and at the same time Rene was trying to write a tell all book about Janet which makes me think he was blackmailing her, and back then Rene use to be friends with Tina Landon because she use to date on of his male dancer friends from the same dance crew that also Anthony Thomas was apart of. And Tina and Janet we’re extremely close and at first and this is Anthony Thomas words Rene didn’t want to pick Tina because he felt she didn’t fit but Janet said no I like her add her to the Rhythmn Nation Tour so they did. It seems ever since then Rene was Jealous of Tina and Janet’s relationship and closeness and till this day there still best friends, but what I’m getting at is Rene didn’t do much and her certainly didn’t write my thing is he was Jealous of Jimmy,Terry,Janet even including Tina because they was gaining success and he was going nowhere so he probably told Janet look if you don’t give me credit for your career I will expose you and Tina basically Blackmailing both Women and Janet she didn’t back down probably told him
no so he said ok not only we’re getting a divorce but I’m gonna tell the world you and Tina are f****** and add Nikki,Kelly,Josie Harris,Tish,and Shawnette in the mix since their always in our bedroom with you. They said that Rene was a dirty M.F’er John Singleton expose Rene for being behind that whole 2pac and Janet situation back in 1993 when that whole a*** thing came out and when Pac was mad at Janet for saying that Pac should take an a*** test before they kissed in their makeout scene in Poetic Justice, but yeah Rene still has no served writing let along producing creates in Rhythmn Nation 1814 though Janet and the ones he has on Velvet Rope he probably had to blackmail poor Janet just to get those he did Janet just
dirty.
Nah Jimmy & Terry made some absolute bops back in the day, they produced one of my faves from ‘the Velvet Rope’, called ‘What About’. They also produced TLC’s ‘I’m Good At Being Bad’ which is sooo slept on! I respect artists more that are able to stay true to themselves and rehire producers they originally worked with, and not just go with whoever’s poppin on the scene.
The DREAM! Lord….
Jam and Lewis are masters.
@Jae if you’re talking about Brady’s prodcer Rodney Jerkins Janet has already worked with him not once but twice with her hits Feedback and Make me. It seems like I’m always three steps ahead of you, you got to keep up now.
Lol yes Shady I know. Earlier today I had 4gotten that Janet worked with him but why not again? We’ve been on this all day. LOL, but I’m still on u & Anastasia about Rene writing songs. Will pass the info when I find it. Smiles.
@Shady81
LMAO!! She making this too easy! How are you a big time fan and have no clue about you girl?
Fraudulent ass fan, who is really a hater!!
Gather her hunny, GATHER HER!!
Ready for the slayage!
I’m excited, I love Janet.
Janet is not playing games this time around. I’m ready for ALL of it.
I’m so happy she’s doing at least one more album. I’ve been to three of Janet tours (All For You, RockWitU, & Number Ones), and I always have a great time (even though I was barely 10 during the AFY era). I’m so excited!
Howz Mooriahs voice soundn these dayz?? 😐
Good… Kii
Mariah’s voice is doing well considering she is getting millions for it..
The bigger question is when will you upgrade from selling your puss for chicken wings and french fries, in the projects??!
Xoxo 🙂
She sounds way better than Lil’ Minghella trying to spit those written rhymes though her botched plastic surgery.
T.I.T.S honey u forgot the drink. I sells my fat pusssy for a value meal so eat me. Moooriah is a hasbeen…like yall mammys!
@Truth
Lol! At least you can admit you are a cheap trick! The only thing worn out and a has been is the stretched out gape between your legs hun. But you tried it! Kii!
And I wouldn’t go near that funk box of yours. Keep selling it to the hood though, for a value meal!
🙂
T.I.T.S. y u hating on my hussle tho??
I’m really excited about this. We need more of our great icons to continue making music. I have to get my b*** to one of her shows this time around.
As long she doesn’t sign an exclusive deal with tidal streaming services then I’m okay with it. Janet you bet not do your dealings just with Tidal that wouldn’t be such a good move for your comeback.
She’s way to smart for that one thing you can say about Janet is that she’s a leader not a follower!.
Agree tidal is only for beyonce no one else could flourish on there
I’m soo excited about her comeback!!! Shows these contrived divas how it’s done!!!!
Nicki showed us how to flop. 😀
I don’t care how she releases her next album, I just want it ASAP!
I can’t wait to see where Janet goes this era! The goal I’m sure is to use the album to push the live experience, much like her contemporaries.
Haters are so worried about how much she is gonna sell, when we all know she will do better than a lot of the ‘it’ girls have on their recent projects.
I also wonder what’s going on with her licensing the term ‘unbreakable’.
I see she plans on having some clothing, bags, and S&M equipment, with that title.
Whatever Janet has in store will be amazing, as usual!
I caint wait fot u to bathe. Funky ho
Look in the mirror as you say that.. I can smell the fish fry between your legs thru my computer screen..
#SmellyCat
Eat me.
Umm. NO, I’m good. But thanks!
Carry on…bee-H**. Now steal that
Do F’n ecstatic!!!!
I can’t believe her comeback is finally here!
Howz cici doing now that Future abandoned ha?? 😐
Same way you were feeling when you got gang banged last week. Not today boo. Lmao
Yaaasss bish!! I took all those diicks!!! 😀
Lmao… Yasss… I love a juicy puss n boots !!!
DEATH @the Truth(s) y’all are too much! LOOOL! hilarious!
THE TROLLS ARE REEEEALLY TRYIN IT ON MUTHA JANET BUT I WON’T STAND OR SIT FOR IT… I can’t wait until she comes out to slay… Mutha is building anticipation like an ol nazzzzzty orgassssssm and I’m ready for the climax… I don’t give a damn how it comes, I’m getting it… This bout the only thing that I’d get Tidal for lol
Biitches like T.I.T.S. hating on me and Queen Janet good pusssy.
No hate bish but don’t compare the Queen and you.
Her kitty kat pulled a billionaire.
Your feral kitty pulls french fries and ketchup from the Chinese spot.
Learn the difference. Kii!
WAAAAAHAHAHABHAHAHAHAHALOLOLOL!!!! OMG @truth siiemen, i got a live bish on here. But i wont drag da ho…TODAY! *shashays off*
Ho I dragged you so hard you think I’m @TruthSerum! LMAO!
You are the craziest dizzy bish, but you’re entertaining sometimes.. 😉
T.I.T.S., Biitch @truth serum is my buddy so y dont u AND YO DUSTY PUSSSY DIICK SUCKN MAMMY ssssUCK MY ASS! Go suck a yeast infected pusssy u biitch. Biitch gargle with my diarreha. Shitbreath biitch.
Your comebacks are as weak as your walls.
You sound mad. You mad? Lmao!
Honey pls… go shave yo pusssy
Zzz zzz. Lame ass..
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? good for jante
I’m a huge Janet fan so @Shady u got it wrong saying that I was tryn Janet!! Most recognize, Janet is the MOTHERSHIP! I as well as Janet know that Rene spoke volumes in her creativity back then….even if he wanted to be HER! Smile.
But hun it does come across as a drag on Janet.
If Rene is such this tour de force writer and image consultant, then where are his other superstar clients?
Exactly, so let’s not over estimate his contribution, when it’s really conjecture on your part.. Other people who were there say the opposite of what you are asserting.
Janet, Jimmy, and Terry did most of the work.
I’m sure Rene did a little something here and there but co-writing 37 songs without credit is a bit of a stretch..
Anastasia pay @Jae no mind because they still haven’t probided evidence that Janet wasn’t a creative force and it seems like when Janet gave Rene that Ten million dollars which she had to sell the home they shared in L.A. that beach house. Janet was not gonna give him her hard earned film, recording, and Touring money he grab that money ran off got remarried to another chick( someone young) and faded into obscurity. Like you told @Jae if Rene was such a dominant force like Jae and Rene claim how come he’s not this big time songwriter and producer, Jae can’t provide that kind of info but to him me and you are wrong.
Biitch drag yo diseased ass down to the clinic
Um don’t project hun. You’re the one in gangbangs for $1 menu items.
I’m sure they have an ointment for your itchy, burnt out puss.
#MakeAnAppointment
#FreeClinicsForYoFunkBox
YAAASSS BISH YAAASSSD!!! 😀
@Jae
You can officially f°uckoff!!
You brought up the Dream, Neyo, and Darkchild(or as you call him B-Rocka) and had no clue they all worked on her last album?
You story makes no sense. Except you are trying to throw underhanded shade.
How wouldn’t a fan know Rodney/Darkchild produced Janet’s last top BB top 20, with ‘Feedback’, from her last album,’Discipline’?
You’re a dumbass troll..
I’m unsure if all that rambling off and calling me names was necessary if that was you!!! There appears to be an issue with the system. No clue what the hell you are talking about with accusing me of supposedly co-signing with @Troy! I could not even read what he wrote since somone x’d out ALL the words!
I find it pathetic of you to continue to think that I’m throwing shade at my favorite artist!! & Simply because I stated that her ex husband Rene wrote many/ almost all of her songs from the RN to TVR era! Get outta here!! All the trash talking was unnecessary on your end! Are you adult enough to apologize?? & How can I not know that certain artist wrote for Janet on her Discipline album? Likely because they only did one to a cpl songs years ago and not the many that Rene did! Nor did I pick up the case and read thru the info regularly! Let’s get thisoeva with, here is your proof, I hope you can apologize verses resorting to name calling!
Check out Rolling Stone Magazine “Janet Fights Back” – Angelfire read paragraph 36! Also check out Janet Jackson’s “Secret Marriage To Rene Elizondo Ends In Divorce” read paragraph 3! Also read “Janet Jackson Hangs Emotions Out On The Velvet Rope” by Larry Katz paragraph 15!!
As I stated I am at work, but I get pop ups when people post on this particular subject so you will read back from me if you care to not name call. What kinda behavior is that??
What kind of behavior is it to sit at work and type lies two days in a row!
You are a Damn troll. This isn’t bible study. I don’t need chapter and verse!
Kindly provide the quote of him coproducing 37 records, and LINKS TO THE ARTICLES(receipts!) or you can keep your b*******!
I don’t see it! Provide your proof!
Quotes! Links!
Comprende Ingles? You frigin tired queen!
Sad all y’all do on here is name call! U can miss me with that. You can bash me all your vocabulary will allow. I knew after I provided those links you would come up with some other bull to challenge me on! This is sad & funny to me, as if this is life or death! Whateva. I’m done responding to your ridiculousness. I did not get on this site for cat fights with mean girls! Bloop!
What’s sad is that you come on here with straight out lies, and shade but then wanna pretend to be a fan.
If you don’t like this site or the people on it you’re free to click your helium heels together and fly way tinkerbell!
You won’t be missed.
#FuckOff
#DoYouHereMeNowFruitcake
Further more you didn’t provide ONE receipt that Rene wrote 37 songs!
So you are a liar, who can’t back up his ridiculous statement!!
Don’t be mad I and @Shady 81 clicked your nonsensical ass!
BLOOP on that! And don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!
#ByeBitch 🙂
Like I said he helped her write lyrics to songs. So what? I never said Rene didn’t help. That could be as simple as a word here or there.
Janet didn’t say anything about him, writing music, doing vocal arrangements, producing, etc.!
Any body could have contributed what Rene did. Gtfoh!
Keep reaching numbnuts! You will NEVER get an apology from me unless you provide proof he wrote 37 songs as you stated!
Where did Janet say that!
Good luck with that!
#Boom
I don’t give a f***. You said he wrote 37 songs. Where is the proof?
I guess he helped to write words to ‘several’ songs means he wrote all the
songs for those era’s? The reach to outer space!
Why don’t you listen to Jimmy and Terry’s production and writing on S.O.S. Band, Human League, New Edition, etc.
Was Rene a necessity to those records? No.
Does the production and lyricism sound close to what they created with
Janet? Yes
Was Rene really a driving force behind Janet’s sound? No
Next order of business on the docket please! >>>>>>>
TITI we can simply now agree to disagree! I feel I have proved my point & YOU & your friend on here can disagree! You dont get me, & I dont get how you deny what came out of Janet’s own mouth, writen in several articles during interviews. I think Rene wrote many songs on her albums! I had no idea he wrote or co wrote ” Almost all” her songs until JANET stated this! RENE stated that he wrote 37 songs of her songs! I dont care what he wrote, or if you all think he was Janets lap boy, follower, errand boy or whatever! Janet loved him & yes he hurt her, but I’m discussing his creativity & her own words! It was stated by your friend that he got 10 mill, OH did he?? As if fans were in the court room! Speculation! That was the amount he asked for, the amount he received was never disclosed! :-$
Firstly you said you were done replying to me but here you are.
Just another one of your many lies. Rene was inconsequential to Janet’s success!
Say to change a word or two is a few songs is not him being a songwriter. In today world maybe.
I can agree with shady he was little more than an errand boy, who got in the way of the real workers.
You don’t need to bother with me again unless you provide the proof he ‘wrote’ 37 songs like YOU said.
Or can admit you lied and are basing your theories on conjecture for what was really said about Rene.
Don’t you have work to do? Ok then. BYE!
@Jae I had yo go on Angelfire but through Janet’s Wikipedia page yo find your theory but still it was his words against Janet’s towards the end of the columned article that was written about there secret marriage. It was still he said, they said(not she said but again they said), then I stumbled across something interesting within the last couple a years he went to see a psychiatrist (Dr.) That he kept and this psychiatrist spilled that Rene was steal obsessive about not getting what he deserved from Janet Rene stated to this Dr. That he (Rene) and Janet were married secretly on
March 31,1991 and separated on August of 1999, the Dr. Noticed his obsession and diagnosed Rene with self defeating personality disorder with Depressive and dependent personality traits. Which means he would go to any lengths to keep getting taking care of by a person with power & money this led me to believe he blackmailed Janet during their marriage to get what he wanted leading her to question whether their love was real or not kind of like pulling a dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde act on her he even probably going around blackmailing Jimmy & Terry and also going as far as destroying his friendship with Tina Landon as well by blackmailing her with her close relationship & friendship with Janet as well I still don’t believe he wrote anything. But he got credit for the Job he did directing the three videos TTWLG,Again, & remix to Together Again and his little input for the Rhythmn Nation dance but the man was purely obsessive and wanted the lifestyle he was accustomed to continue while he was with Janet. Even Janet’s good friend John Singleton said during the taping of Poetic Justice that he (John) wanted to play a practical joke on Tupac (because back then Pac and John was best friends before Pacs untimely demise in 1996) but it had nothing to do with an A*** test it was something to the effect that John wanted to say Janet had the flu and couldn’t do a s** scene because remember Pac told Arsenio Hall there was suppose to be a s** scene but Rene got extremely jealous cause remember Rene was also in the film Pac didn’t know Rene & Janet were together like that so Rene probably went and Told Pac Janet wanted him to take an A*** test causing Pac to blow up and John scraping the whole love scene altogether because Pac said I’m not taking no A*** test she kissed Q-tip and he had a cold no I’m not doing Pac also said he didn’t believe it was Janet that said it but he felt it was her people he just didn’t know. And he said after taping Janet gave him her number, so when he tried to call her the number was disconnected like a week or couple days later or so. John had to get Pac & Janet together to squash this fiasco that Rene created when it was supposed to be an innocent practical joke about Janet having the flu which I have to add Janet didn’t even know about joke in the first place. And get Janet and Tupac to speaking again because Janet didn’t know what was going on. This was Rene’s attempt at being just messy because he knew Pac & Janet liked each other and wanted to be friends. Janet always gushed about Pac when asked in interviews and said how good of a kisser he was. This should give you a glimpse of how Rene would do anything to manipulate a situation with Janet he possible was behind Janet’s phone number being changed I mean he must’ve took care of the bills while she was busy. Rene was just manipulative and messy so no I still don’t believe he did any writing and producing for Janet and 37 songs hmm unbelievable like I said he wanted the power,fame, and fortune she had and would go to any lengths to get it sorry @Jae I cold-heartedly stand my statement and theory you can stand by yours but what I drummed upon about Rene just adds up good day.
@ Shady everything you stated I heard before. Again I am a huge Janet fan & I met her once! This was at her Velvet Rope signing, Rene was there as well. At that time he had just gotten out of rehab, I think it was for depression but I dont recall at this point. Do you or do you not recall the incident with Janet chef accusing Janet & Rene of fraud? Look into it.
I DO believe Rene wrote many of James songs because Janet herself stated this! He likely did not write 37 songs as he stated, but even if he wrote or co-wrote 20, or 15! That is a lot. Janet gave him credit so I dont are what the issue is here. I am only replying to level headed people who are not resorting to name calling.
Rene suffered from depression at times and so did Janet. I dont k how Rene’s childhood background & I dont think he is the reason for the fall out between Tina & Janet. Did you see Janet on Oprah? I believe Janet was referring to Tina when she said she had a friend that wad being cheated on & she found out about it & told the guy if you dont tell her I will. He didnt tell so Janet did costing her their friendship. Who knows! Until Janet and trustees say so!
I know all about that but I think the chef was lying and The whole Tina and Janet situation I don’t think they fell out over the whole boyfriend thing I mean Janet had lots of friends plus 2 of Janet’s friend dated 2 of her nephews it could have been one of the two ladies she was talking about not necessarily Tina but you do have to understand that Tina was on the rise anyway in her career so she was bound to go her own way because she was a heavily requested Choreographer working with big name artist and a very unknown Britney Spears,Chrisina Aguilera,and Ricky Martin and a host of others I don’t believe rumors I go by facts so you could never tell who Janet was talking about but I do know she had 2 friends that dated both her nephews and one of those friends was Nikki Pattienburg whom Dated Tarell (think that’s how you spell it) and he also was apart of the music group 3T but they dated for a long time. So it might have been her who knows and I can understand why Janet didn’t say anything if it was Nikki because that is Janet’s nephew so her could’ve been against the wall. But that’s not my concern I don’t care about that, and it didn’t seem like Janet and Tina had any problems especially during the Michael Jackson Tribute on MTV she was there for her and Tina always spoke highly of Janet in interviews and said that she would love to work with her again when she was asked in a radio interview when they did the Rhythmn Nation 1814 25th year anniversary lookback. And I didn’t call you no names that arguments between you and Anastasia that ain’t got nothing to do with me! We just asked you to provide receipts of your facts I was just letting you know what I stumbled upon about Rene. And where did James come from the only person I know who was connected to Janet was James Debarge and he was still with Debarge after El left to do his solo career and basically I don’t care about that the last time I heard about James was Unsung and he looking real strung out on drugs when he was on the Dr. Drew talk show when he was with His sister Bunny and I think it was Randy or something. Look I don’t care leave James and them Debarges back in the 80’s where they belong ain’t nobody got time for that what are you talking about? I’m talking about poetic justice, John Singleton, and Tupac and you talking bout James Chefs and rehabs and one last thing you don’t go to rehab for depression, Drug dependency yes alcohol dependency yes the metal health hospital to deal with mental illness such as depression now that’s where people go to get help to rehab doesn’t deal with depression only addition and I don’t need to look up the chef because he’s lying I mean he even said Janet had h***** and that’s a load of b******* so I’m done discussing this there are no last words I’m done and for you saying I’m not level head girl bye I had to put two and two together and add up why I think Rene would blackmail Janet and others she was close too. Look goodnight I’m done now this is beginning to be so irrelevant I’m a huge Janet fan since I was five and like you I saw her to in 2011 at her up close and personal tour so no ones attacking you just have a goodnight deuces.
Ok firstly I never brought up James Debarge so I think u have me & my post mixed up with someone else’s words! Nor did I say u werent level headed!! HUH? Where did that come from?
I did bring up the chef though. I never heard he said Janet had h***** but I did google all tbe medication put in his name & they were for depression, weight gain and h*****. I thonk it was aome of Rene’s doing.Thats neither here or there. Tina & Janet were no longer friends, so I think Janet was talking about Tina.I also believe “You Aint Right” is partly about TINA! They only came together due to Michael death. Of course Tina spoke highly of Janet, Janet gave her a chance & a start. By the way I’m sure u know Tina did choreography for Ciara as well. Anyway we could go on & on with info, I was up close and personal for her Number 1’s as well, but I had to go to St. Louis to catch her! Goodnight!
I meant Addiction not addition.
Oh and while in rehab there are counselors so you can get treated for other things such as depression! My father is a veteran, went in for an arm injury and counseled for ptsd and depression! So Idk abt Rene. Who knows.
@Jae when I said Tina worked with Britney, Christina, and a host (HOST) of others that meant Ciara too plus Rihanna,Aerosmith,Motley Crue, Prince & The New Power Generation etc. We’ll be here all day and night oh and let’s throw in Jennifer Lopez name for good measure and you did say James unless you had a typo and you meant Janet, and you said level headed people just thought I correct you.
Yes that was a typo, my sentence after that, you can tell. IDK anything about who wrote for James Debarge. LOL. & by level headed people, as I stated, people who would not resort to all the cursing and name calling! Anyway I’m just excited to see what Janet brings! Can’t wait for the tour! Time to round up some people! Take care
Level headed people know FACTS and don’t argue about things they don’t know for days!
Another wrong thing is Tina was mad at Janet for not telling her boyfriend was cheating.
Janet told him to tell her or age would, and when TINA found out Janet knew she dropped the friendship.
I find it specious for @Jae to get so many FACTS wrong and still be indignant about it.
If you don’t like my tone that’s tuff. When you produce evidence that Rene wrote 37, 20, 15 (the numbers keep changing) songs, then be mad at me.
I tried reasoning with you that your theories are all speculation, but you insist on them with NO PROOF.
Why don’t you research, before you write nonsensical jibber jabber?
Then maybe people wouldn’t be hostile toward you for getting so much WRONG.
and there it is…
For someone who is such a fan, you seem to know very few facts but do you boo.
Just don’t get mad when you are clocked for writing half truths and complete misinformation.
Isn’t it REASONABLE to expect you to have some facts before you break out in false soliloquies?
Lol ‘You ain’t right’!
And you are still indirectly talking to me, by commenting on my behavior. No need to throw underhanded shade.
You said you were done addressing me but keep talking about cursing and such in reference to me.
Yes I cursed you out, because you choose to keep going with speculation and not fact.
You have no evidence of your theory about Rene but keep push that he wrote 37, and insisting JANET said that.
Where is the quote from Janet? Did you find the link yet?
Exactly… No..
So be mad at yourself for creating an atmosphere of hostility by LYING and overstating what Janet actually said.
Still talking about me is addressing me, and you lied when you said you were no longer going to address me,
But liars lie, so what else is knew dear..
🙂
Anastasia it’s o.k I’m pretty sure after I got @Jae together for her mess it a done deal s*** just got real messy towards the end when she brought up Rene’s rehab situation like I really cared anyway she was steady going off topic especially when I mention the whole Poetic Justice movie situation containing Pac,Janet,John and Rene which contain that A*** rumor she never answered that. Instead she talked about some rinky dink chef that I could care less about. But hey it’s a new day and I hope your day goes well.
Ok boo. I just don’t get people who just talk ish and don’t know how to bow out when they are clearly wrong.
It’s just sad. Then trying to go in every direction but a straight line.
Anywho, you have a great day as well.
I will it’s my birthday and I’m gonna party with some friends!
Woohoo!
Delusion= when you think what you ‘heard’ and what you ‘think’ equals FACTS!!
Lololololol. Wow..
Well Have Happy wonderful birthday today’s my cousin birthday too so have fun and be safe out there.
Thanks baby I will! Happy birthday to your cuz as well!
If I was going off topic it was due to my work schedule, but I disagree with u. You went on and on into several off topics ya self if thats the case. Anyway I dont care, its nowhere near serious. Be good.
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