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Though comprised of seasoned writers who share a similar outlook on Urban Pop culture, the idiosyncrasies of the TGJ team members often lend for quite heated debates “behind the scenes” about the hottest topics.
Now, we give you a front row seat to the show. In a format similar to ‘The View’ or ‘The Real’, TGJ editors – Sam, David, Rashad, and Joe – get real in a very candid way.
Today’s roundtable topic asks…
Janet Jackson’s ‘No Sleeep’ – Hit or Miss?
Sam
I’m torn.
The production sounds lush, creamy…top notch. As does Janet. She’s really enunciating this time around, which I’m elated about. Sonically, it’s smart to tread such Adult Contemporary waters as her reintroduction, because sadly modern radio seems to have an aversion to playing older artists – especially those making a calculated attempts at courting young audience with an obvious Pop hit (see: Madonna). With this, Janet has garnered critical praise and will likely attract older audiences as well as the “cool” kids in the process (see: fans of Drake, The Weeknd, Jhene Aiko). Maybe a bit premature, but I really envisage nominations in the R&B categories at the Grammy’s next year (the show is just as much about the buzz these days as it the music…Janet has both presently).
However…
While she has her own label, I really feel we shouldn’t deceive ourselves about the fact that there is a commercial expectation for the project to deliver – whether that be the tour, the album, a single or all of the above. Whether on a major imprint or going it alone, a successful “angle” must be established. So coming off a so-so era in ‘Discipline’ (an underrated album IMO), this project really has to make noise. As such, I would have loved to see her do that quite literally with an uptempo lead single (which in turn promotes the tour and upcoming album). I’ve seen a lot of shade being thrown at “generic EDM” singles, yet Janet is one of the few acts able to do uptempo on her own terms. Though arguably focussed on a narrow topic, I’d argue that ‘Feedback’, ‘So Excited’, and ‘All Night’ have all stood the test of time and boast an epic-ness that screams “I’m BACK”. My initial hope was to have a song with that feel but with a more universal subject matter.
There’s been a lot of talk about ‘That’s The Way Love Goes’ and ‘Got Til It’s Gone’ being slower tempo lead singles from previous projects. But it’s important to remember those dropped in a very different climate. After being unfairly written off by so many, Janet has immense buzz at the moment – a movement that may be difficult to re-create if a single doesn’t catch on as intended.
But hey, she’s doing her and I respect that more than anything. Still so excited about the era and the song’s roll-out overall. I feel like with a killer video with A LOT of choreography she could convert me (fully) with this single. Ciara’s ‘Body Party’ didn’t sound like the most choreography heavy song and yet she smashed the video and made me a believer.
I’m also open to the idea of the song being rolled out as a double A side with a more uptempo partner in rhyme.
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David
After watching ageism block Madonna’s chances of success with her latest singles, it feels Janet has taken a leaf out of Toni Braxton’s book with her new single ‘No Sleeep.’
Why Toni ? Well, like Toni & Babyface’s ‘Love, Marriage & Divorce,’ Janet has made no effort to pander to a system which is uninterested in supporting her contemporaries. What she’s done instead? Deliver a song that will find a very happy and supportive home on Rhythmic and Adult Contemporary formats.
With ‘Marriage’ standing tall as one of 2014’s highest-selling R&B albums (with a Grammy win its name too), I feel Janet’s ‘Conversations’ can expect to enjoy similar success if she pushes her new material to an older, wiser and wealthier audiences. Commercially, it could work to her favour too, as R&B makes a slow, steady, yet notable return to the upper echelon of the Billboard charts.
Thinking beyond ‘Sleeep,’ peddling her comeback to a more seasoned audience, will likely yield bountiful rewards for Janet’s LP, as said group are far more inclined to buy albums and tour tickets than 1 dollar singles. Viewed this way, the campaign’s greatest success could easily lay with its full-bodied release.
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Rashad
Janet Jackson’s ’No Sleeep’ is inaptly titled, because from where I’m standing it’s a snoozefest.
To say I was disappointed would be an understatement, but to say I was surprised is not.
In my mind, I expected her to borrow elements from ‘The Velvet Rope,’ but I was hoping she would not do such so directly because ’No Sleeep’ sounds like it was cut and pasted from ‘Velvet’s cutting room floor. So, with that stated, she had the right idea, however I wish she had taken a more updated approach (i.e. Ciara’s ‘Body Party)’ and given us Old Skool with a 2015 appeal.
All in all, the track isn’t bad. But it is a bad “comeback single” for an artist who unfortunately has so much to prove and is threatened with limited radio play given her age. Let’s hope, if she’s going to take the “real R&B“ approach, that she gives us something more ala ‘I Get So Lonely,’ ‘Anytime Anyplace,’ or even ‘I Want You.’ A sound that will justify her seductive whisper a bit more than a standard mid-tempo groove.
That said, I recognise the grower potential of this song and hope that it’s accompanying music video will see that potential realised.
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Joe
#PLUSH!
Miss Jackson is back! As an all-time self-professed “stan”, I couldn’t be more elated about her return to music. It’s long overdue.
If I’m being honest I thought Janet would come straight out the gate with a modern-day ‘Feedback’ to remind the masses why she once had the world in the palm of her hand.
Instead of playing it “obvious”, J and her exciting new team went left and gave us this marvellously mellow groove that is legitimately and essentially a “JANET track” – from the rain/storm sounds in the beginning to the schoolgirl-giggle after the middle-8.
There seems to be an agenda to achieve success by releasing qualitative and heartfelt music without catering to today’s musical trends. If you ask me it is a huge risk to take, especially for an older diva who is making her comeback after a 5+ years chart hiatus. Then again, Janet’s most powerful “moments” happened when she went against the norm: breaking away from her father’s authority with ‘Control,’ tackling social issues at such a young age on ‘Rhythm Nation,’ not being afraid to express her sexuality during the ‘janet.” era or releasing an EDM type of song in the form of ‘Together Again’ as a single in 97.
Could ‘No Sleeep’ be the song that puts Damita Jo back on the top of the charts as well as critics’ lists? Though it seems to be off to a good start digitally, only time will tell.
Still, kudos to JJ for respecting her legacy and realizing that even after all the years and all the changes that have happened in this industry, “Janet doing Janet” will always be enough.
Welcome back, Queen!
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HIT! I love that she didn’t follow trends!
NIPPLENET JACKSON
Of course Janet would revist her That’s the way love goes/IF look and appeal and release a slow-burner that is s*** but a little bland.
the single is ok, but i’m sure her people have a s*** video and her look is together, with weave for days. Janet has to dance her a** off this time around, she can’t strut up and down the stage and not dance and lipsing most of the songs.
Saying Madonna did t wrong, how? Her shows sell despite ridiculously high ticket prices – $4000 ticket packages, the B**** I’m Madonna video is getting about 1 million views a day and is near 17M views, the single is #1 is the US. She’s fearless. I see it and I’m aware of what Madonna is doing and I’m not really a fan. Madonna has no chill. “Making a calculated attempts at courting young audience” in pop music you follow trends. Pop culture.
http://www.billboard.com/biz/charts/hot-singles-sales
Madonna will do Madonna and Janet will do Janet.
I love it too
I refuse, I am not giving you 200+ comments today Sam. Janet seems to have that effect.
Is that you in you avi? If not you seem to have a type, mixed boys. That may be the reason Slay_FiveHead is always wanting you, he may think he fit the bubble.
???? Are you trying to be the new GAY millionaire matchmaker Markeisha?? That’s a step to coming out the closet. BTW I don’t won’t Loose Bottom. I’m not attracted to confused big charcoal black baboon power bottoms who eat pusssy on the side. Oops I meant “bisexual” on the side????
LMAO not not me, it is Dallas Flashman Wade, he is a male model.
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DEATH at the Slay_FiveHead shade
“BTW I don’t won’t Loose Bottom. I’m not attracted to confused big charcoal black baboon power bottoms who eat pusssy on the side. “
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Now Mark111, do you really think I would fall for someone who doesn’t know the difference between “want” and “won’t”?
*want
Death@ slay five head
Hit honey!!!
Death at one of them trying to compare Ciara to JJ biych please take a seat. She has NOTHING to prove she has stood the test of time 21 years later and still can cause all this hype. Janet ain’t and doesn’t want to fit in with this Taylor s*** world. She has her nieche and is one if the few artists can can sell based just on her NAME
He doesn’t Compare janet to Ciara, he only says it was a better choice if Janet choosed a more updated song like Ciara did with Body Party.
You can’t compare them -_- Not even close
“Janet Jackson’s ’No Sleeep’ is inaptly titled, because from where I’m standing it’s a snoozefest.”
Lol ???????? yes!!! I agree. #miss #snoozefest #yawn
Ho YO fav is a drunk with no vocals!! Kii DAT biitch!!!
Meanwhile everyone in Vegas that went to see that Carey horror show is still sleep. And they’ll be sleep til infinity or til she gets a hit.
Hunnie, Mariah is worth $500 million dollars and has 18 number ones and 28 top 40 hits. Mariah is good. Her ear-rings cost more than your car and apartment that you rent.
VAMOOSE hunnie
Hit for the fans! A miss on the charts or general public. I mean, if Madonna (THE QUEEN OF POP) can’t get a hit… Then, I highly doubt any artist from that era can achieve one. But, this era will be great for Janet’s core fan base. All Janet needs to do is deliver great on stage performances… And, she will be fine. Who cares if her album/single flops. That haven’t stopped Prince, Mariah, Madonna etc… So, it shouldn’t phase Janet either. And, I want a dance song next.
Granny can’t get a hit because she sucks and the stunts are as dried up as her puss.
READ DAT HO!!! YAAASSSS!!!!
Come on Mark, Madonna is the most successful woman from that era, period. And, second OVERALL behind Michael Jackson. She haven’t scored a legitimate BIG hit since 2008. And, the top ten hit she achieve with Minaj in 2012 was due to a CLEAR CHANNEL DEAL & Superbowl exposure.
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There is no reason as to why Madonna’s “Living for Love or Ghosttown” songs didn’t chart. I mean, they were solid songs. With decent/good videos… And, had mainstream performances/exposure. But, its due to her AGE! Artist over the age of 40+ years old aren’t supported by radio, AT ALL. One station straight up told Madonna “She’s too old for our playlist”. And, the music industry is DOMINATED by YOUTH. That’s just the way it is… Sadly.
YOU’RE MAD AND BITTER OVER MADONNA, MARIAH, AND ETC BC EVEN AFTER THE ILLUMINATI REJECTED THEM, THEY CONTINUED TO GROW AND STAY RELEVANT. THEY DID NOT SLAY THE CHARTS AND ETC. FOR THEIR CURRENT ERAS (REBEL HEART & THE ELUSIVE CHANTEUSE) BUT THEY STILL GET HEADLINES AND ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO MAKE MILLIONS. THERE’S A REASON THE SWEET AND STICKY TOUR SLAYED. THERE’S A REASON THAT DEF JAM CHOSE TO PROMOTE E=MC2 OVER DISCIPLINE AND SPEND A FEW DOLLARS TO ENSURE TOUCH MY BODY WAS A NUMBER ONE HIT. CÉLINE, MADONNA, CHER, AND MARIAH ARE THE TRUE QUEENS OF MUSIC. 25 YEARS OF EITHER SLAYAGE OR MODERATE SLAYAGE WIT MINIMAL FLOPS UNDER THEIR BELTS. ACCEPT THE TRUTH. JANET HAS BEEN OVER SINCE SOMEONE TO CALL MY LOVER WAS SENT TO RADIO.
This makes no sense. see, Janet has gotten hits when Madonna wasn’t.
Huh? Janet’s last BUG hit was in 2001. And, her last moderate hit was in 2008 (the last year Mariah & Madonna scored their last BIG hit).
Stephon Maurice Jackson: Respect to Mariah, but Madonna didn’t score that hit in 2008, Justin Timberlake did. Janet was alone on Feedback, just Janet. And I’m happy it’s just Janet again, and not Janet feat. Some Young Stupid Artist.
Madonna can’t get a hit cuz she wanna be young.
Madonna is NOT the most successful woman. She only had 3x more releases than Janet. Madonna sold 300 million, Janet 160 million which means Janet is more successful. To be equally successful as Janet, Madonna should have 480 million records sold.
BTW Michael Jackson’s last big hit was You Are Not Alone – in 1995.
Not it wasn’t. Lol. MJ’s last big hit was in 1996 with EARTH SONG lol. And, You Rock My World was a global top ten along with 1997’s blood on the dance floor.
You are wrong if Toni and babyface could have a hit album, I think anybody in that era can.
i expected her coming hard hitting out of the gate as well………with this song being true to form she doesnt have to suffer the “she’s trying to be young” title that has plagued madonna this era, and creates anticipation for the second single…. remember we havent seen a video, performance or even miss janet out side of sweats yet…lol….so looking at what its been able to do with Zero promo so far, the growth potential for this song is pretty good
Thx u love. ????
I doesn’t seem to be performing on iTunes or even on Vevo. Everyone insists on comparing other artists to Janet, but almost every song Madonna released without any notice debuted on iTunes at #1.
Has Madonna’s Rebel out performed Mariah, J Lo, Celine and even Britney’s last offerings? I think so. Will a handful of her shows out gross her contemporaries entire tours, probably.
I really am perplexed by the Madonna hate and constant belittling of her achievements. Is it because of age? She’s being discriminated and trolled because of age. Its not acceptable. Its sad. We all age. Funny thing is she looks just as good than many my age and I’m in my 20’s.
Biitch please!!! Did u REALLY just tell that lie!! ALL Madinosours sinhles have flopped these laat years!! And Jan is doin just fine on itunes ho.
it’s a hit case closed
I LOVE this song! I needed a good chill song and it’s SO Janet. She stayed true to herself and this has a modern twist! It’s so beautiful!
Kiss my ass Rashard!!!!
I’m riding with Rashad. This song is a definite snoozer.
Ride this DIICK biitch!!!
Janet is almost 50 years old, I just don’t get what people expect from her… I am in love with the sound and the new direction and I’m sure that the album will be amazing.
And what’s so funny is that she been having a mature sound, since the Janet album. lol
She’s been doing the “mature sound” since Control baby. Funny How Time Flies song, such a classic soul track from Janet! I firmly believe Janet knows what she’s doing. She’s clocked more industry time than any of these so-called experts. Plus she’s a Jackson, the Jackson that has had to prove herself the most, she will always win, f$ck billboard!
I like it, smooth, adult and smooth. You qu33rs are getting older, grow up. Nothing is more sad than an older person (Mariah and Madonna) try so hard to still act 21. And you’re not fool ANYONE, with your photoshopped, Pixar animated album covers or hiding your old witch hands with gloves. lol
DEATH!!!
I totally agree with Joe.. Janet is going against the grain and doing things on her own terms. I personally think she is more concerned about the tour them album or commercial sales at this point in her career. I think even if this doesn’t have a video or hardly any promo it will live on it’s own and effect the people the way it’s going to organically. However I do believe next single she will give us all what we know JANET to do is dance! #staytuned Welcome back Queen!
I’m not doing this today…leaving hundreds of comments but I will say this…
People will call her a flop because she’s not doing generic pop that’ll boost her to the top and I don’t think she necessarily should. Everyone is so worried about chart positions on the Billboard hot 100 & 200, and how many albums someone is selling that they forget to remember, the quality of the music comes first and quite honestly Janet did exactly what I expected and stuck to her signature R&B, Quiet storm sound and I’m not mad.
Most artist these days aren’t charting that well or selling albums, Beyoncé already told y’all on ‘Haunted’ “I don’t trust these record labels, I’m touring.” Janet is selling out dates already and she knows what she’s doing. I think the confusion of people thinking she needs to compete with these young 20 something’s is late and tired. She’s been where they have, where the are and where they’re going in the future. She’s TRULY unbothered and considering that she’s bundling her albums with ticket sales, she’ll come out just fine. How do you think Madonna went platinum with MDNA?
People that DON’T do their homework like to forget that Sade was gone for TEN YEARS and sold out most of her shows and went platinum in only a few months and she stuck to herself. These are UNBOTHERED legends, living life and doing things on their own terms and not pressed by trends or fads that won’t last past their 2nd album.
So with that being said, ‘No Sl333p’ is good for what it is. Let mother be great.
#AndWeAreThrough
Exactly lol. She’s not doing anything different then what she’s been doing. “No Sleeep” is Janet all day. And I know her album will be the s***.
RIGHT! I can’t at some of these comments though.
Lol. Right.
So here’s the deal: Janet has been sabotaged by Viacom and Clear Channel with her last few projects by being black balled from their radio stations. “Feedback” was a pop and urban smash in the making but they refused to play the song as sell as those before and after because of Nipplegate. So Janet is smart this time and knows she cannot rely on hit records this go round. So she is doing whatever she wants and releasing what is authentic to her and making her money back by touring. Kudos to u Miss Jackson!
^ Yes! Dude, you always look deeper than the surface!
Lol. MusicHead’s good for it. Lol. But wow, it’s new information to me cuz I never knew that. Interesting and sad.
Madonna, Madonna is all i see in this post. RASHAD, i feel he was sincere, he didn’t pretend to being pleased with Janet’s new single, he also didn’t used The Queen of Pop to justify Janet’s lackluster single, desperate like Madonna blah blah blah.
I mean, people will say what they want about Janet but when it comes to Madonna, they are quick to speak that title. I disagree.
Well no one is clicking that BUY button, so TALKING doesn’t mean ish. Have a nice day Blondie.
EXACTLY. JANET COULD NEVER BE THE OR EVEN A QUEEN OF POP! I’M SICK OF HER DELUSIONAL ASS FANS/STANS. ESPECIALLY MARSHA.
Im sick of yo smell. Funky ho
Vh1 took a poll of who is QOP and Janet won but in my opinion Janet is the Queen of Music because she’s done almost every genre
Giirl u so pressed bcus Magdinosaur look like a damn fool in her latest vid where she runnin round tryna b 20 something kissn young guys and them throwing up when she walks away.
I expectations for Janet was to expect the unexpected. I knew I’d love whatever she came out with because she is a trend setter.
I absolutely love her new joint. I got a feeling this album that she’s keeping in the wraps is going to be a Bonfire. I can’t wait.
And what I’m about to say is not what it seems cuz I love all my favorite artist to the MAX but with Janet being back out, it’s like nobody else really matters to me right now. But I’m still supporting CiCi no matter what though.
@Stephon Maurice Jackson
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Ok she did W**** Town, after how many stunts? The past 15 years, what great songs been released from her? I can only name 4 Mins and that was clearly a Tim, JT and Nelly song that they took Nelly off of. I don’t know what took everyone so long to see her tricks, but they see it now and moved on. Didn’t Barber out sell Gags last year? Didn’t adele outsell everyone? How, because adults will buy your music, but not if it aimed at 12 year olds.
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Janet did what she should had done back in 2003, she went away and made us miss her. This is a comeback simply because it been 7 years, we miss her. Vs another sad attemp to be youthful by Mariah and Madonna.
“Nothing is more sad than an older person (Mariah and Madonna) try so hard to still act 21. And you’re not fool ANYONE, with your photoshopped, Pixar animated album covers or hiding your old witch hands with gloves. lol”
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But, the industry is DOMINATED by YOUTH. That’s what drives many of these so called “artist” careers today… YOUTH & BEAUTY/IMAGE. If being “mature” is what will get Madonna & Mariah another hit… Don’t you think they would’ve DRAINED that image by now (especially Madonna)??? Madonna TRIED being mature with “Ghosttown” but it didn’t work. Mariah tried being mature with “Art Of Letting Go, Almost Home, Angels Cry, HATE (U)”…. But it didn’t work. It comes down to AGE in this era. These kids don’t wanna listen to music by artist old enough to be their parents/grandparents. And, older audiences seems to have a problem accepting TODAY’S new sound & most of the time. They don’t wanna hear the new shitt… They just wanna hear the old stuff from their era & reminisce.
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Madonna has tried EVERYTHING, and she still can’t get a hit. It all comes down to AGE, period.
Well tell that to Barbra Streisand, who last album Partners went #1 last year and plat.
Baby, Miss Barbra Streisand is a rarity. Stop clinging to her.
She’s a try hard, nothing to do with ageism. People are done with the games.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVXVxgr5C5Y
RIGHT. FUNNY BC JANET USED BLACKSTREET DURING THEIR PEAK. SHE TRIED TO USE MJ. SHE TRIED TO USE JT. SHE TRIED TO SWEET THINGS ABOUT BEYONCÈ & CIARA IN 06 HOPING IT WOULD GET HER ATTENTION. SHE TRIED THE SAME S*** IN 09 FOR GAGA. SHE TRIED USING MARIAH DURING THE EMANCIPATION ERA HOPING IT WOULD SAVE THAT TERRIBLE 20YO BULL. SHE TRIED USING USHER. SHE TRIED USING AALIYAH BEFORE SHE OVERLOADED THAT PLANE.
SHE TRIED USING BUSTA. DON’T FORGET HOW SHE F***** AND TRIED TO USE JD FOR HELP ON HER COMEBACK HOPING TO HAVE A CONFESSIONS ERA. KII. SIT DOWN.
Girl and u simply just..TRIED IT!! Sit Fido, sit! Good dog.
THE SONG IS A NICE TRACK, BUT IN NO WAY GOING TO SLAY ANY TYPE OF CHART. YES, JANET IS AN ICON, BUT SO TF WHAT? ARE WE GOING TO PRETEND THAT MADONNA, CHER, MARIAH, CÉLINE, WHITNEY, AND ETC AREN’T AS WELL? WHY IS IT THAT TGJ & JANET FANS SEEM TO HAVE 2 BILLION EXCUSES FOR JANET’S FLOPPING, IMAGE, LIMITED VOCALS, YOYO WEIGHT, SECRET MARRIAGES, SECRET CHILDREN, GIMMICKS, PHOTOSHOPPED IMAGES, DEPRESSION, STDS, AND ETC., BUT THROW SO MUCH SHADE AT MADONNA, MARIAH, & OTHERS WHO OUTSOLD AND HAVE MORE ICONIC IMPACT ON A TRUE GLOBAL SCALE. SHE IS OVER! IF YOU’RE NOT MADONNA, CÉLINE, CHER, OR MARIAH, YOU ARE A HASBEEN. MJB IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT, BUT SHE’S LOCAL. ALSO, REPLY PRESSEDB AND THUMBS ME DOWN ALL YOU WANT. I KNOW THE TRUTH HURTS.
Eat my ass
Madonna is that old mother i the bar/club with her 21 year old daughter thinking she still got it. Go home, you have no bizz here. lol
No, this is waht Mariah tried to sell before all the other flops. Clinging to the latest rappers got played out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM156Pkfg70
No, No… HATE U & ANGELS CRY were released BEFORE this mess. Stop the lies. Mariah failed with those BALLADS… After scoring a big hit with “OBSESSED” (a ghetto song). So, she probably thought that’s what she had to do in order to get a hit.
I haven’t even heard the song yet and I just don’t give a f***! This b**** is a has been and she gotta stay in the past!
Chiiile stop trashn yo mammy. This is a JJ post…ho
Hmmm, I have to say that all arguments were presented well. Everyone’s standpoint is very sensible. Still, 1 person nailed for me!
Here’s who I agree with most (from great to best POV imo).
Rashad
All in all, the track isn’t bad. But it is a bad “comeback single” for an artist who unfortunately has so much to prove and is threatened with limited radio play given her age. Let’s hope, if she’s going to take the “real R&B“ approach, that she gives us something more ala ‘I Get So Lonely,’ ‘Anytime Anyplace,’ or even ‘I Want You.’
^ I know some people won’t fall in love with ‘No Sleep’ instantly. I do see how risky it is to release a single that has such a mature, laid back feel to it. I believe the song will catch on gradually. Uptempo’s general seem to do better in today’s market, but this debut single feels calculated and tailored to Janet’s needs for this project’s release.
Rashad again:
That said, I recognise the grower potential of this song and hope that it’s accompanying music video will see that potential realised.
^ I have high expectations for video as well.
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David
Janet has made no effort to pander to a system which is uninterested in supporting her contemporaries. What she’s done instead? Deliver a song that will find a very happy and supportive home on Rhythmic and Adult Contemporary formats.
Thinking beyond ‘Sleeep,’ peddling her comeback to a more seasoned audience, will likely yield bountiful rewards for Janet’s LP, as said group are far more inclined to buy albums and tour tickets than 1 dollar singles. Viewed this way, the campaign’s greatest success could easily lay with its full-bodied release.
^ I think this is partially the plan. I agree with all that was stated, however, I do think we’ll see Janet’s versatility and range with the singles choices. I don’t think she’ll remain in a box. Janet just doesn’t tend to follow everyone else’s lead. When you expect her to come out with a banger, she goes left and returns cool, calm and collected. So I think we’ll get a lot of music that caters to various groups of people.
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Sam
I’m torn.
^ So was I initially.
Sam again:
I’d argue that ‘Feedback’, ‘So Excited’, and ‘All Night’ have all stood the test of time and boast an epic-ness that screams “I’m BACK”. My initial hope was to have a song with that feel but with a more universal subject matter.
^ This is exactly what I wanted. Feedback is my favorite Janet single post SB.
Sam again:
But hey, she’s doing her and I respect that more than anything. Still so excited about the era and the song’s roll-out overall. I feel like with a killer video with A LOT of choreography she could convert me (fully) with this single.
^ What you said at the top of your write up is where I started and this statement above is where I’m at today. I’ve come around … I love it when I can RESPECT an artist at the end of the day that take risk and march to the beat of their own drum. Not too many artists take pride in what they do this way. Janet has integrity!
Sam again:
I’m also open to the idea of the song being rolled out as a double A side with a more uptempo partner in rhyme.
^ I’d rather she let things run it’s course with ‘No Sleep’ and then drop another single near the album’s release. Let’s keep some kind of order here.
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Joe
There seems to be an agenda to achieve success by releasing qualitative and heartfelt music without catering to today’s musical trends. If you ask me it is a huge risk to take, especially for an older diva who is making her comeback after a 5+ years chart hiatus. Then again, Janet’s most powerful “moments” happened when she went against the norm: breaking away from her father’s authority with ‘Control,’ tackling social issues at such a young age on ‘Rhythm Nation,’ not being afraid to express her sexuality during the ‘janet.” era or releasing an EDM type of song in the form of ‘Together Again’ as a single in 97.
Still, kudos to JJ for respecting her legacy and realizing that even after all the years and all the changes that have happened in this industry, “Janet doing Janet” will always be enough.
Welcome back, Queen!
^ Mutha Fawkin standing ovation! There’s nothing to add! I got my life from reading this because you’ve summed it all up perfectly!
OMGWTF!!! Biitch the post is above…y u put it here??
^ Read, I took bits and pieces that I agreed with and elaborated on it.
LMAO
Oh ok
LOVE it Royal Kev! I agree, I think she’s have joints on her album for every one and releasing this joint most certainly still means she’s in control. I honestly love it.
I know dance floor heat is coming, but I respect Jan’s operation.
Janet always been mature.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7Qc_VMKmk
This is the video Witch I’m Your Granny tried to do, but failed.
IF THE QUEEN OF POP TRIED TO DO THAT VIDEO, THEN THIS VIDEO WAS AN ATTEMPT AT NOTHING REALLY MATTERS.
This video is errtang and 3 planets honey!!! I loooove that video!!
I agree with Sam and David. I was really excited for Janet’s return and I still am but I was expecting a Feedback type of slayage! Something upbeat and fun where she could show off her choreography and blaze the stage/video. No sleeep is not a bad track at all and it has grew on me a little but it’s boring. I wanted the kick off of her era to be an exciting event. I’m sure she’ll have something in store for future releases though. Only time will tell how well No Sleep will impact the charts and this generations short attention spans. Or will it succeed solely based on the hype of a new Janet project??
I meant Rashad not David????
Fu ck u
F**** yourself with a cucumber????????????
Fu ck yoself with a catus!
I agree excluding the “boring” comment. I was expecting a kickass upbeat song but this isn’t so bad. Everytime Janet did return with a new album it was a uptempo song as the lead. “No Sleeep” only shows that she isn’t vulnerable or afraid to be herself instead of conforming to todays Ratchet R&B sound. I expect the next single to be uptempo, hopefully like a “All For You” feel to it.
I lowkey want mother to give the girls some sickening choreography to help ALL of us remember that she is “THAT B*TCH”
what the f*ck?! Feeback is childish af and a bad song!!!
Honey and u have bad breath!!
Now I know everyone pretty much is a STAN for Chart success instead of TALENT but at the end of they day, Chart Glory doesn’t solidify someones legacy, it’s their impact and the fans/peers/critic reviewers that keep their name up in high importance.
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Now this song for Janet is a HIT in my eyes and ears! Because it goes back to the basic of Janet’s originality and plus its a song that has been on repeat for me. So it’s a HIT!
June 25, 2015 at 11:15 am
Mark111 says:
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Janet always been mature.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkP2HoLKQU&sns=em
Madonna is doing today what she has been doing all of her life, being herself, Madonna, an irreverent woman, nonconformist with our society. She has earned the right to live as she pleases.
THAT’S MF RIGHT! JANEIRO IS OVER!!! SHE NEVER HAD TALENT. JUST THE JACKSON LAST NAME.
She’s a ho
“Janet Jackson’s ’No Sleeep’ is inaptly titled, because from where I’m standing it’s a snoozefest.”
SCREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’ll out do I Bet. So…
Oops!!
I think you mean American Oxygen bîtch!
???????????? @ Molly
I’ll end it with this, to this day, Janet is the queen of her talent. She’s still the best dancer EVER! And had the longest career as a dance performer. Now I ask, what is Madonna’s talent? What is she the best in? I ask the same about Mariah. (Watch the LAMEs say vocals as if there were never a lady name Whitney.) lol #GotEm
JANET HAS NO TALENT DUMBBELL. KII AT YOU PRETENDING THAT JABBA ACTUALLY COULD SING ON WHITNEY’S LEVEL.
Dancing is a talent, more so than singing imo.
Mariah is a writer AND a vocalist. Whitney had vocals but Whitney only ever used that pen once. You really can’t put them in the same comment, tbh.
Well if dancing is the only thing you count as talent then by your logic, Paula Abdul, Chris Brown and Ciara are Bob Dylan, Prince and John Lennon. Thought you were smarter than that.
EXACTLY. HER PUNK ASS JUST SEETHES BC HE KNOWS MADONNA >>>>> JANEIRO
Paula, Chris, Ciara’s 5 year career? And the others are not known as dancers. lol
“Janet has never been desperate”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tzBunIQf9Q&sns=em
Tell me about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAy-NtCQCB8
Yaaaasssss @mark slay ha…SLAAAYY HAAAAA!!!!!
Is this deja vu?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iI2w99uWes
Mark u dragn deze hoez!!! I love it!! Us ATL girls will read the pigmentation off yall BIITCHES!! NOW @What now, giiirl go buy some pads cus @Mark reading u so hard yo period has started!!!
Madge Kissed Drake
But how does that count when Justin basically sabatoged her and ripped her chest plate thingy off? We all know that mess was a stunt. And the kiii is, he never even took responsibility or apologized for his part in causing the malfunction.
Oh, really! The director of the Superbowl halftime show says otherwise! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yr3HgqdzqUc
Janet stans can’t take criticism all of them are sensitive af.
Molly, you’re dumb af.
Im dumb because you Janet fans are mad that not everyone likes the song? Hmmmm No one is gonna sugercoat shît for this overrated bîtch. No sleep is a goddam MISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kiiiiii sounds like the Navy, tbh #NoShade
Lol ain’t that the truth boo
If it’s boring to you then hey it’s your opinion at the end of the day but if you EVER try to say you don’t respect MOTHA…… then your ass shall be dragged back to HELL!
Girl focus on Tinashe
Shouldn’t you be focusing on revamping your FLOP fave at this moment? You better hope and pray that she pulls a Chris Brown and gains relevancy again. Don’t try it! I was actually being nice.
Nice? Bîtch bye you’re a mean miserable little troll I’ve tried with you. Also you no neck stanning bulldozer built bîtch what relevance does Tinashe have? Still screaming at all head no neck having two remixes with hot rappers yet still failing to chart kiiii did pretend even chart?
And neither can Ciara stans.
I’ve called my fav out multiple times when I haven’t agreed with what she’s done or released musically. So stop! I say I don’t like this Janet song I get attacked.
And when Janet’s not up to par I do the same thing like when she lost her luster during her Jermaine Dupri moments I mean era from 2004-2008(glad he’s gone!) I wasn’t afraid to state my likes and dislikes now if only we can get rid Gil’s tired ass Choreography and him altogether I’ll be all good, yeah some people claim Janet could do no wrong but I’m not afraid to go in on my girl when something is wrong I’m just honest like that.
June 25, 2015 at 11:26 am
Mark111 says:
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Dancing is a talent, more so than singing imo.
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THIS F** IS SO F****** DELUSIONAL. YOU JUST SAID THAT CHRIS BROWN & BRITNEY SPEARS ARE WAY MORE TALENTED THAN WHITNEY HOUSTON & MARIAH CAREY. YOU LIVE IN A DELUSIONAL WORLD. WAKE UP MASON666.
But Rihanna can’t sing or dance sis
Did not say that. I said dancing is a talent, more so than singing. We seen singers use studio magic for decades (Maruah), so you can tweek, trick and edit a voice. But dancing, you either got it or you don’t. There’s no tricking or fooling. If you try to edit it, you’re notice off the back. Learn to read. 🙂
YES YOU DID F** LOOP. IDGAF ABOUT YOU SHADING MARIAH AND HER ENGINEERS. THE WOMAN CAN SING SOME TIMES. I DON’T CHECK FOR HER ANYMORE, BUT HER LAST ALBUM WAS GOID. YOU WILL NOT SIT HERE THOUGH AND SHADE MADONNA. MADONNA >>>>> JANEIRO. ENDS OF CONVO. AND FYI, WE KNOW I STAN FOR RIHANNA, BUT CAN SHE SING LIVE? I DIDN’T THINK SO.
LIVE singing is a more respected talent than being a great dancing studio singer. I can’t!!! Save the voice editing and tweeking for Rihanna but wait she can’t dance neither.. Why do you Stan for her? You SEEM to have high standards????
I like it and I think it’s a hit. I remember when Janet came out with songs like Miss You Much and That’s the Way Love Goes and people were unsure about those singles, but as soon as the visuals and the promos for those songs start coming out, people had got a better concept to what Janet was doing with those albums. I think Janet is heading in the right direction and just need to focus on making a solid album and murder the stage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dhiWIqsMJY&sns=em
“Now I ask, what is Madonna’s talent? What is she the best in? I ask the same about Mariah. (Watch the LAMEs say vocals as if there were never a lady name Whitney.) lol #GotEm”
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Gosh, Mark stop being so petty. Madonna is VERY talented. She’s not the best singer or dancer. But, that lady is talented. Madonna is one of the greatest on stage VISUALLY captivating performers of ALL time. And, her creativity & catalog of EXCELLENT timeless hits proves why she is the QUEEN of POP. Don’t sit here and try to discredit the most successful woman in music. Also, she can play an instrument, write music (BY HERSELF) & is one of the SMARTEST women EVER to grace this Demonic industry. Madonna deserves every ounce of respect & honor she gets. And, can do what the f**** she pleases!
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As for Miss Carey… Stop, STOP comparing her to Whitney Houston. Yes, Miss Houston was one of/if not the GREATEST singer the industry has ever seen… But, THAT’S IT. Mariah is a better artist than Whitney has EVER been, period. There is more to musicality/artistry than just VOCALS. Writing, composing, producing & VOCALIZING is what Mariah had. That’s nothing & I mean NOTHING to sneeze at. And, she deserves EVERY ounce of praise she gets.
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You’re get soooooooo salty over Madonna & Mariah. But, stay mad-t! Cause, their the 2 biggest selling female acts of ALL time.
BLOOP! I JUST said this same thing.
All I heard was sells, what is Madonna talent? Putting a thousand things on stage is not a talent, it’s a prop. Katy did the same at the SB, it to cover the LACK of talent.
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I’m not going back to MooMoo studio magic. After 20 years she have very little great LIVE shows.
BUT MOO MOO SINGS BETTER ON HER WORSE THAN JANET AND OFFKEYLIAH EVER DID. HER WORST PERFORMANCES ARE BETTER THAN EITHER OF THOSE FLOPS.
Sam:O.K.
David:I see your point
And Sam & Rashad stop comparing Janet to that damn Ciara they are two different artist from two different times one created a point to take a stand to empower with her music and the other well she still thinks she’s on Beyonce & Rihanna’s level
Rashad:Hater &
Joe: Needs a high five.
In the words of legendary director Dominic Sena the man behind Janet’s legendary Rhythmn Nation 1814 short film
Said it best. (“If Janet has seen it done before she wants nothing to do with it, Janet makes and follows her own rules and sets her own trends like no other and that I have great respect for, she wants to create a movement not do what others have done before her”.)
And to me Janet shows pure definition of a born leader not a trend follower.
Lmao. That’s my Baaaaaby, she be PUUUTTING it DOWN! #CiCi! ;).
What’s Suupper Shady81!?
J/p!
But lol. I was cheesing from ear to ear when they repeatedly kept mentioning Ciara. But we know Janet is Boss so #NoShade at all.
Hey @Lake Erie How’s it going? I know you probably think I’m a Ciara hater but I’m not I’m just a realistic person when it comes to certain people now don’t get me wrong I tried giving the girl a chance when she came out with her album that featured her song Promise I brought the Deluxe CD and actually liked the album very much. But when I heard she did the Feedback song without Janet’s permission then I was like o.k. she gets a side eye from me strike 1.then when I heard it I was like now they no there voices don’t match Janet’s using her lower alto register with the autotune and sounds great while Ciara singing in her high mezzo saprano register and sounds bad. I just looked over it but I just don’t see them doing a duet it just won’t work but in my mind I thought they did the song together before the truth came out that Janet and her people wanted that remix scrapped because of copyright and a song being done without ones knowledge, o.k. Ciara this is strike 2. For you & Strike 3. Now that was the last straw when she said she was a better dancer then Janet
In her prime(heyday) & now on Big Boy’s Neighborhood radio station. When I heard that I was so mad I just felt like I needed to drop the mike and walk away because she know she tried it I just said she just mad because Janet got that ass together privately (in her own Janet way without causing a scene.) And ever since then Ciara has been giving othe people tributes until now, but my opinion still stands about her not changing my mind she dug her own grave When she said what she said about Janet and throw shade at Jan every now and then now she wants to kiss ass because she pushed down the toilet lever and
flush down the little career she had left and now she begging Janet to give her ass a life jacket so Janet could save her, hell no instead of Beyonce saying Bow Down B****** Janet might as well drag Ciara next to her bring Ciara to her knees a make her kiss her pretty lotion up feet and tell Ciara “Now Bow Down B****” because if it wasn’t for BET making up and an award just so Janet could walk ass across the damn stage because they know people would get there life and BET would get the ratings (MTV Wannabes) and it’s a Janet Jackson video vanguard award at that. Ciara’s happy ass better be grateful because Janet walking across the stage alone will be more memorable then that performance she’ll put on for BET if it was Janet had her way Ciara wouldn’t be there but this is BET there cheap and want to save on cost.
WOW Shady81! You just drugged my girl!?! But I will admit, I was shocked when I listened to that Big boy interview. I was expecting her to at least gas it up but she didn’t. But I still love Ciara. I think she does pay a lot of homage to Janet still but I also think she a still built an identity for her self. People see “Ciara” in a lot of our artist today from past that are trying to innovate (lol) and from the newbies.
But all in all, on some real s***. The only person I know that has said Janet and Janet first is their inspiration is Tinashe. And I respect her for that. Other artist (who names I will not say) always put MJ first. And I get it I guess. But then when Janet is around or talked about, then they make it seem like Janet was their inspiration,?????? (But hold up, I thought MJ was????) A Lot of artist do that and I hate it.
Lol, and I’m good btw. Bout to go workout.
Yeah I’m starting to like Tinashe she’s growing on me and she wants to create her own lane and be known for her and her alone. Not live in someones spotlight or hang on to their coattails like some people. Going off topic a bit if there’s anyone who I would love for Janet to work with it’s Ester Dean Janet can definitely pull off ratchet and pull it well she showcased that in Show Me and in Get it out me but it all started with
You Want This Featuring Mc Lyte.
Yes! Ester Dean would be great!!!!
How about y’all shut up, shut the hell up, shut your shade throwing, shut your dragging, put a cap on your haggard hairlines, shut the hell up and get into this slay
https://youtu.be/euWjl-dBG9w
YAAASSSSS BISH YAAAAASSSSSS!!!# any question who bad biitches???
“Janet can sing & dance”
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https://youtu.be/ovFB6dshq7c
Or this slay
https://youtu.be/jWd9IgPktA4
YAAASSS MARK YAAASSSS KEEP EM COMN BISH!!!
LB
SHUT THE HELL UP and get into this
https://youtu.be/J551f-TyqjY
Your basic favs will never, can never and should never attempt to ever
https://youtu.be/OAwaNWGLM0c
SNATCHING, SNATCHING, YASSSS, SLAY
https://youtu.be/dONYNjOTdIM
I caint take it!!! The sexiness is too much!!! *faints*
Another Janet post? The thirst for hits is real
And the sad part is, they’re gonna get them, smh. Watch this get 200+
Janet can sing LIVE when she’s not dancing. Her voice isn’t the strongest, but at lest she can sing her own songs, unlike Britney, Ciara and Mariah. Bloop! And have more stage power than Madonna will EVER have. 🙂
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn4YhjSDWI
I LOVE LOVE Janet but don’t think she was singing live in that entire concert including the vid you pulled up.
I dont think so. But then again, she pulls it off so well. But I’m sure it’s LIVE.
THAT S*** IS TERRIBLE & PRERECORDED
Ho
I was obsessed with this song at one time
https://youtu.be/bxfeXwdtXY0
I really like the album version. So dark.
^ I loooooved SOAG!
@Lightskinned-Lilac Baffoon aka LB if you don’t calm down with these videos ????????????
Like I said, dacning, you either got it or you don’t. You can’t learn it, it’s a gift.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIlhEywp1SM
SCREAMS!!!
@slayonce/rihnavy you needa avi baby! that purple s**** is tired #Noshade
No shade baby! I want an Avi but I don’t know how to get one ????????
Me either! I want one too! 🙂
https://en.gravatar.com/ sign up booo
DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD!
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“We seen singers use studio magic for decades (Maruah), so you can tweek, trick and edit a voice.”
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Here you go with this BS, again. Don’t you think Mariah would be still sounding like her 1995 voice… If this “studio magic” was really all you needed??? Mariah can’t even sing like that in the STUDIO, no mo’. If, “studio magic” is all Mariah EVER was… Why can’t she sound like her 1993 STUDIO vocals, during her 2014 Elsive FLOPteuse STUDIO album????? Answer That MarkyMark. Lol. Pressed-T!
When will your fav slay taking a shower? My fav has
https://youtu.be/HKsT3RAhHec
THE SCENES WITH THE GREEN FABRIC WEREN’T EVEN HER, BODY DOUBLE ON THE SILHOUETTE SCENES, AND THOSE BLUE CONTACTS LOOK AS CREEPY AS LATEST NOSE JOB KII
Janet can sing LIVE when she’s not dancing hard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4h8oyFL5GQ
KIII. EVEN THAT S*** IS PRERECORDED. YOU CAN HEAR THE TRANSITIONS WHEN SHE TALKING. WHEN SHE YELLS NEW YORK, HER SPEAKING VOICE IS LOW AND SHE’S CLEARLY OUT OF BREATH. WHEN SHE SAYS THE LYRICA OF THE SONG AND ETC, HER VOICE IS SUDDENLY CLEAR, WELL RESTED, AND LOUD NOT TO MENTION LOOK AT HOW SHE HOLDS THE MICROPHONE. LIP SYNC. LIP SYNC. LIP SYNC. LIP SYNC.
And your mama prerecorded her birth when your ass came into the world it wasn’t even her cooch you came out of so everybody can’t come in this world special the way you did surrounded in p** gunk, mud and s***. While your real mother and siblings squeal and ooink all day I mean I’m suprised you could type with those hooves you call hands it’s everyday you could live your life as a p** it must be hard? Say hi to Babe and Miss Piggy for me!
A studio vocalist can’t do this live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5IQ5hvvpzQ
Oh here we go with the time travel. You guys post the same 1791 videos when I call out her lack of vocals. lol
IF SHE IS A STUDIO ARTIST, SHE WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO SING LIVE IN 1971 OR NOW. YOU’RE MAD BC CATFISH STEPHANIE CLOCKED YOUR WEAK WALL ASS.KII. WHEN A MOO. MOO STAN CLOCKS YOU, YOU IT’S TIME TO RETIRE.
It’s so stupid to compare Mariah, Celine and Whitney with Janet and Madonna. Janet and Madonna are ultimate artists, pop icons and entertainers, Mariah is only a singer. I love Mariah but she’s not entertainer and serious artist. Janet’s albums are always on every list of best albums ever made, Mariah never had a one single album on those lists.
MOO IS A SERIOUS ARTIST & WRITER. IDK ABOUT CRITICS BC I DON’T FOLLOW HER THAT MUCH, BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE LISTENED TO, HER DISCOGRAPHY SLAYS EVERY OTHER DIVA EXCEPT MADONNA AND CHER. THE TRUE QUEEN & GODDESS OF POP.
Oh no baby. Mariah was more than just a vocalist… check her credentials. God, blessed her with a mean pen game & great composing/producing skills. All can be backed up & supported by other fellow writers/producers like David Foster, Diane Warren, Walter Afanasieff & her own ex-devil I mean husband Tommy M. Whom, said “She wrote EVERYTHING”. “She was the one making all the music”. So, she was more than just a voice… But, I agree. Mariah was a HORRIBLE live entertainer. Straight up boring lol. God didn’t bless her with showmanship like Celine Dion & Whitney possess. But, that’s alright. She’s still sitting pretty collecting her royalties of songs she WROTE & PRODUCED. Cause, if she was just a “voice”… Mariah would be BROKE, today
Have yall heard this new Tiffany Evans song ft Fetty Wap – “On Sight”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf4lrGx55x0
A studio vocalist can’t do this live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqtAvSwgfog
Has anybody seen that racist show devious maids? That new Blatino guy though>>>>>
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Carmen>>>>> slays though, she reminds me of J.No No
A Studio Vocalist Can’t Do This Live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELGPgTaSpY
A studio vocalist can’t do this live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VCiPANfhuc
A studio vocalist can’t do this live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu9RVPTpDyA
Even Whitney tried to dance and failed. So dancing should be respected.
^ Lol. She did, but at least Whit had rhythm!
Whit had swag like no other, so we didn’t even care. lol
Yessss, especially around the MLIYL era! Get It Back (MTV EMA 1999) live >>>>
One of my fav videos from Mzz Damita Jo Jackson
https://youtu.be/CRm00quEilA
Janet has secured having at least two #1 singles (in the Hot 100) and at least 2 #1 albums (in the Billboard 200) in every decade of her activity as a recording artist (that is the ’80s, ’90s and ’00s) making her the only artist to achieve that feat.
^ Yesssss, THREE decades! Omg, I didn’t know she was the only one! Her records are AMAZING (even though she blacklisted for 10 years)! 🙂
“Oh here we go with the time travel. You guys post the same 1791 videos when I call out her lack of vocals. lol”
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The hypocrisy! Stop it, when you’re sitting up here uploading videos of Janet dancing from 1684. And, by the way… Most of those videos, Janet is NOT singing live. She’s either WHISPERING and/or lipsyncing. And, MARIAH & WHITNEY NEVER CLAIMED TO BE NOR WAS MARKETED AS DANCERS! Try again, Marky Mark.
@Molly. don’t try it! Because I’ll gather your weak ass in a bun real quick on TGJ LIVE TODAY! Don’t try me. I was being nice. You pressed af. Geeesh!
All the times i’ve tried to be nice to your ass I got the same reaction from you so save that bullshxt!
This 35 sec clip alone sh1ts on the two old h*** careers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogt_YvaOI0I
“Janet can sing LIVE when she’s not dancing.”
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Ok, Mark you’ve shown me how delusional you really are… Peace out, bye.
6 years ago, Janet still slays careers on the stage
https://youtu.be/X1REaSWoT5Q
R.I.P Michael Jackson. Today it’s six years since his death. 🙁 Yall should make a tribute post to him
Oh, and YES! RIP to Michael Jackson! I love him so much. My favorite artist of all time. FUCKKK YOU S****** BLONDE! His catalog is AMAZING!
@stephon
I love him too so much. I wish was still alive. Sigh. His legacy will always live on. Rest in peace Michael 🙁 🙁
Yes, gurl. Honestly, I don’t care what MJ allegedly did or didn’t do… I will NEVER forget the IMPACT that man’s genius has & continues to have on my life. He’s the first artist I ever fell in love with. I can’t even express my gratitude for his contributions to music. I truly, love Michael Jackson. And, I didn’t even know him personally. I cried so hard when he died smh…
@stephon
Same here… I’ll never forget that day June 25th in 2009. It was so unexpected. The whole summer became a tribute to Michael with his music playing everywhere and his music selling like hotcakes. It was almost like MJ had a second career peak. It was amazing to witness for those of us who weren’t alive to witness him in the 80’s. I will always love him and his music.
Chile…it never ceases to amaze me how these post get messy so quickly & @Molly how do I get an Avi boo? ????
Right hun? Got Janet,Tinashe and Rihanna fans seething kiiiiii. But go to https://en.gravatar.com/ and sign up for an account.
Anyway, I’m done. Where’s the MJ replay post so I can post all the great moments of the greatest ever. All while making the white boy mad. 🙂
I’m ready for that post! He hates MJ.
I’ll scream when Janet’s new album outsell Jacked, has it reached 50k? Kii
I would be PRESSED too if my fave was counting on a man to gain relevancy for her too boo boo.
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Not Russell leaving Fredrick Harris behind.
HIT IT WENDY LOL
https://youtu.be/BFEa6GkBJLo?t=4m18s
not fredrick harris lawd rotfl
SCREAMING Caesar is pathetic
SCREAMING!!!!!!!! I WILL NOT WITH YOU, I AM DYING
@Team Tinashe hell naw that footage alone showed Russell was not interested in Ciara he was paid for photo ops, let’s see if he’s still with her when the football season starts.
Ciara doesn’t sell because there is always a disconnect with what she sings about and who she actually is.
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I mean does she expect people to believe she is a bad mother f***** when she is trying to be a Valley girl Kardashian?
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The more Ciara’s real personality came out, the less she sold because it stopped being believable. I mean come on
https://youtu.be/pOmuf3x7zOw
“A lot of these b****** they came and they went.”
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Ummmm *points to career chart*
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http://www.realdeal.hu/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/downward-chart-250×220.jpg
SCREAMS
“LIVE singing is a more respected talent than being a great dancing studio singer. I can’t!!! Save the voice editing and tweeking for Rihanna but wait she can’t dance neither.. Why do you Stan for her? You SEEM to have high standards????”
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Love this TEA you served boo. You betta speak that truth & SAY IT AGAIN. And, ain’t nothing wrong with yo hairline SlayHive. If that was really you, then you’s a handsome guy. Precious Baby…
But Madonna is the best selling artist of all time
Uh uh, continue to keep yo distance from me. I don’t want no beef with you, LovelyBird. 🙂
@Molly idk who the hell you think you are trying to step to me with your bag of uncooked chicken looking like faves, i.e Iggy and Cedric Hamilton.
https://youtu.be/_PufwSlaxuc
LMAO I dont comment on here but you need to stop. just STAWP!!!! im crying
No! That little d*** ass niqqa is gonna catch it today!!
And Janet gets another 200+ comments post. TGJ eating with cheese on everything.
Samantha bout to book himself a gay cruise with all these here Janet posts LMAO
LMFAOOOOOO! I can’t stand your ass but that was funny AF
SCREAMING
When your fav is a one hit wonder and gets paid in trident layers CLING to Tranet.
LMAO NOT TRIDENT LAYERS
KII KII & LEG SLAP
LMFAO seethe bîtch your fav is opening up for mine at the BET awards kiii the meltdowns will be real.
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YASSSS MY AVI IS SLAYING! Anyways ????☕️
Yas hunty loving the avi thank GOD Beyonce isn’t over here walking around with a big ass head and no neck like Tinashe.
Kiiiiiiiiiii at none of us ever being able to stay on topic in these posts, but I guess that’s why it’s called ThatGrapeJuice because it’s juicy, messy, and addictive #NoShade. Anyways I caaaant wait for Sunday, it’s gonna be everythinnnnng
Wow!!! I like your avi! I’m going to sign up when I get home. Thanks Molly! 🙂
KII AT TINASHE & MOLLY DRAGGING EACH OTHER. IF U AIN’T DRAGGING, U GET DRAGGED.
The Karma in it all. My Fave (NEW), Molly the supporter for the Hermaphrodite (OLD) is selling the same units as my fave. DEAD!
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Has Ciara embarked on a STADIUM tour yet? Is Ciara going to be opening up for Future at Kings Of Diamonds? Will Ciara have his jock straps on to hold his d*ck at the BET Awards this sunday?
The nerve from a #SissySquad stan to shade Rihanna but can’t come up with an answer when they see this?
https://youtu.be/z7OhSO-KlE4
The song is garbage and is already falling on iTunes. It had like 5 minutes of mild public interest before everyone heard what dreck it is and went back to not caring about this washed up 80s hasbeen who only became famous for being MJ’s sis. LOL@Hasbeenet’s 4 stans coming in here and trying to do damage control for this flop. Can’t wait for the album release so you can see again just how much people don’t care. LOL LOL LOL
Too bad my fav has sold over 30 million records boo has Tinashe even passed the 1.5 million mark? I didn’t think so. Lol and remember you lil bîtch your high yellow rodent looking fav went after CIARAS man. Tinashe is the one who sales p**** in the studio.
Molly, I’m sure Ciara has sold more singles than records just like Beyoncé and Rihanna. She just isn’t going to “happen” like them.
Kiiiiiiiiiii at none of us ever being able to stay on topic in these posts, but I guess that’s why it’s called ThatGrapeJuice because it’s juicy, messy, and addictive #NoShade. Anyways I caaaant wait for Sunday, it’s gonna be everythinnnnng
Where is the FACTS? LOL.
If your gonna make up lies you need to show PROOF and PHOTOS! Like what I am doing boo boo 😉
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But meanwhile, just like your fave, put a Jockstrap on it h** lol.
https://youtu.be/lj492qWlX9c
Girl Natalie La Rose came thru and slayed your fav effortlessly yet you think you can come for my Queen? LMFAO! I bet went GOLD my fav is still getting certifications 11 years into her career. Tinashe has one platinum single which came out over a year ago she hasn’t seen the chart since lol and please don’t try it with that body language because that bîtch was so irrelevant they only used her for ushers background vocals LOOOOL
Smh another 200+ comments Janet post lol and Death at Thotlly getting her ass dragged yet again
This ciara vs tinasha war is too much that trident layer read made me choke.
Midtempo, ballad, uptempo, dance … whatever. Stop acting like Janet has a chance for a hit today based on style. When was the last time a 50 year woman who hasn’t had a hit in 15 years bounced back? Even the distance between Cher’s 1999 “Believe” and 1989’s “If I Could Turn Back Time” wasn’t as large as the gap between Janet’s last real hit. Now she’s releasing music independently because no major label would sign her. You’re all living on fantasy island with this broad.
“No Sleeep” is a hit with fans who appreciate good, r&b and soulful music. If she had taken that edm/ uptempo route, skeptics would’ve slaughtered her… because in their eyes she’s too old to be doing songs like that, or as Wendell williams said “she’s can’t keep up with the…” blah blah blah!
Natalie La Rose? Isn’t that the same person that out peaked “I Bet”? Back pedal out of this one fool lmfao!!
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Idk much about Natalie but I do know that Tinashe’s name is everywhere more than I hear about that name boo boo and is BOOKED! How about Ciara? Still doing theatres? Still being BLOCKED from the VMAs, AMAs, Grammys and Billboard Awards flinging pots and pans with Keyshia Cole outside?
Lol girl no body is talking about Tinashe stawwp!!! You’re delusional as shît. And if Ciara and Keyshia are flinging pots and pans Tinashe must be on parking lot duty picking up everyones scraps and giving 50 cent blow jobs to D list rappers behind the dumpsters where she resides.
Janet fans/supporters always damn pressed and obsessed when it comes to Madonna. And what does Mariah have to do with this? At the end of the day, Mariah and Madonna shitted on Tranet. The true queens are Madonna, Mariah, Celine, and Whitney. Janet can hold a spot further down in the top 10 though. ????
“The true queens are Madonna, Mariah, Celine, and Whitney.”
Yep! Tranet is the lesser of that group and is the least successful of them all. Now her idiot stans will make some kind of lame excuse about less albums, blacklistings, etc., etc. to try and play down her short comings and failures. All while pretending that “Trash Heep”…I mean “No Sleep” slays or something! ROFLMAO! Sorry but it does NOT! They’re so pathetic. Everything Tranet’s put out since she got naked at the SB has been garbage including this!
I see no lies told. Janet fans act like Janet hasn’t been flopping for awhile now. No one bought her last two albums and no one will buy this one.
And yet NONE of the divas you mentioned accomplished getting #1 hits in 3 successive decades like Janet (80’s, 90’s, 00’s). The only other artist in history to do that is who…? Michael Jackson (70’s, 80’s, 90’s). Janet is a legend and it doesn’t matter how much some pressed stan tries to diminish her accomplishments. I can’t at the audacity of some people.
*multiple #1 hits in 3 successive decades
Have yall heard this new Tiffany Evans song ft Fetty Wap – “On Sight”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf4lrGx55x0
I swear Mark111 is more retarded than the Beyhive. I can easily pull out receipts of him praising Mariah’s LIVE vocals in that LIVE I don’t Wanna Cry performance. It doesn’t matter if you think Whitney is better or not. Mariah’s name is still in the history books and even your own fave Rihanna could clock you on that.
LMAO I can’t at the delusions of a #SissySquad Stan hehe!
Again Tinashe is BOOKED! When will Cedric in this day and time?
And since you’re obsessed with charts, then where is Dance Like We’re Making Love on the charts boo boo? Hehe! Stop getting clocked!
@Slayriah You’re so right about Tranet being Mariah and Madonnas lesser. I honestly never understood what is so special about Janet she can’t sing, isnt pretty, and lacks a personality.
Why am I arguing with an inferior undercover stan like @Molly anyways lol.
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September 29, 2014 at 10:49 am
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Great production, good vocals this slays. I’m definitely buying the album.
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I agree with a little from each guy; regardless though Janet is an ICON who is not dumb. This was a great move (real music), not afraid to not be the norm, although most don’t truly support real r&b anymore, it’s fine, this is good music!
And ladies and gentlemen that’s how you SLAY a hermaphrodite stans head off.
Just like what Wilbert Williams said “Ciara needs to hang it up” and I’ll be hanging up on that roach infested Moll-A.I.D’s.
Goodnight! 🙂
I can’t with folks pretending like this wack ass song is any good. Some people just want it to be good so that they can act like this is some sort of “comeback.” It’s more of the same forgettable, lackluster material that’s plagued her for the last decade, and now it can’t even be blamed on it not being serviced by Jam and Lewis. I don’t endorse anyone stooping to the level of EDM and crap of that sort, but lets not pretend that anybody can’t make an EDM song that’s as good as the last one that was a hit. Her going the urban AC route wasn’t about maturity, self-awareness or being enough of an artist to not pander to trends (this is the same woman who did a song with Nelly and made that ghastly “So Excited” with Khia of all people.) This was about after having a decade of back to back misses her knowing that the likelihood of her having another big radio/chart hit wasn’t good no matter which direction she took and doing something atypical, just so that should it *not* be well received, some can argue that it was never meant to and try to let her off unscathed for yet another tanked release (and if by some off chance it hit, people can act like she was enough of a force to make something unlikely be successful.) It’s a blatant attempt to ward off criticism for poor commercial success and score brownie points by pretending that she was “real” enough to go left when everyone else is right. Nah Janet.
THANK YOU!
I dont even like Janet’s music like that…
But this song is nowhere near boring…..she took it back to old school when music not the charts mattered
As a mimi and Madonna fan..I do agree they dont need to try to prove ish anymore
Because legends are born never created
All around miss. This junk sounds like a low budget Toni Braxton song – with weak vocals.
Out of casual curiosity, I listened to it once and haven’t bothered to again. The only thing I remember about it is how boring I found it to be.
People talk alot s*** about Janet saying this new song didn’t pop and that it was weak. Well so f****** what, what do you want this women to do I mean if she came out with an uptempo dance song you would complain she’s trying to be young and she needs to sit her old ass down it’ll flop anyways, if she came out with a known rapper like a Jay-Z or a Rick Ross you would complain oh she clinging on a rapper for relevancy & she’ll flop. Look shut the f*** up, I mean Damn if Janet do or Damn if Janet don’t I mean some people where complaining that oh Janet needs to come back and grace us with her presence because I’m tried of all these twerking non dancing b******. And when she comes back everyone wants to do a 180 and
say the s*** is wack and the trolls are the worst ya’ll know ya’ll don’t like Janet but yet are the main ones leaving 300+ comments arguing with Janet fans, with the cut up of videos and photos trying to prove a point on why you don’t like if you don’t like her step off the post and leave it for her fans. She’s doing this for her fans anyways and paying the haters major dust remember this is for her fans and again that’s who she doing it for anyway it goes she’ll still climb the charts whether she’s at the top 20, top 10, top 5 or number 1 she’ll get there and she doesn’t need the haters approval but she again she does look to her fans to support and that we will gladly do for her if she gave to us we will give back to her in return.
Like it matters that she returned with something subtle and doesn’t play to trends. I’d be willing to be that somewhere on Janet’s forthcoming album there will be at least 3 cheesy, trend conscious thumpa-thumpa pop songs that are too young for her. This was just her trying to contradict what everyone was expecting from her coming back.
No Sleeep will do fine! I expect it to slay even after the BET awards Tribute this Sunday!
The song is pretty nice & can’t wait for the bet award show
I love me some Miss Jackson…But this is not a HIT, it’s an album song, not single material.
This site is loaded with plenty of idiots. It’s so obvious that you guys aren’t used to your faves going against the grain! I’m SO glad that Janet did this because damn near everything on the radio sounds the same! She made a beautiful song that’s gotten PLENTY of great reviews from ADULTS! Why? because that is what Janet is. This song isn’t “boring”. It’s soulful and it’s something that’s lacking incredibly on today’s radio; there’s no diversity. Everything sounds like pop and it sucks! Oh, and the has gotten pretty high on Amazon and ITunes considering there was no promotion, no video, and the fact that Janet isn’t even really seen. You guys go WAY too far to bring someone down w/o getting your facts together. Especially, Janet, YES, she was severely blacklisted over something she didn’t do. YES, the director of The Super Bowl halftime show said that it was Justin’s fault and Janet cried afterward. YES, she had singles that would’ve been hits well into late 30’s and 40’s if she wasn’t blacklisted. Get a life, guys!
Overemotional and delusional rhetoric/excuses that is typical of a Tranet stan trying to whitewash her crap. The song is garbage!!!
Shut the f*** hater you stay trolling if you don’t like her @Sage then step the f*** off the post why scroll down so far just to be the 295th person commenting Really get a f****** life hell if I didn’t like somebody I wouldn’t waste my time giving an opinion you just want someone to see your dumb ass.
What a dummy, there is NOTHING garbage about soulful music. You’re just not used to hearing it nowadays. I can listen to this ALL w/o that overproduced crap I hear all the time on the radio.
AAAAAAND about every one of you were absolutely wrong. Moral of the story, don’t listen to critics.