Miguel: “I Make Better Music Than Frank Ocean”


Miguel has shared his thoughts on Frank Ocean...and they’re set to ruffle the feathers of the latter’s fans.

Why he feels he’s a far better artist than the ‘Swim Good’ lyricist?

He had this to say about Frank in the Sunday Times:

We’re, er, cordial. I wouldn’t say we were friends.

To be completely honest—and no disrespect to anyone—I genuinely believe that I make better music, all the way around.

Frank is the tortured. That’s his thing. That’s not who I am. I may not be dark—as dark—and I may not be as poetic, but I’m living my real shit.

Miguel recently released his latest studio album ‘Wildheart’ and the words above came during an interview with the Times to promote the release.

Ocean is yet to respond.

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  1. RihYonce July 6, 2015

    I agree

    • Toohotfortv July 6, 2015

      Hmm I don’t. . . First, I’m not sure what the litmus test would be to compare the two artist. I will say this though; I really enjoyed this most recent Miguel album. I also very much enjoyed “channel orange”. It must be said that both artist are very limited vocally. Still, where those limits (imho) seem to lend a vibe of inauthenticity to Miguels work, with frank it tends to contribute to the art. For me, in listening to this Miguel project, while the instrumentation was top notch, there were many times were I just did not believe his lyrics because of his inability to emote vocally. Not to mention the derivative nature of his work, in general. Can anyone say, Prince (for starters)? With frank, although no art is ever completely original, its much harder to note where he draws inspiration. In my opinion, thats much more valuable and interesting to watch/hear artistically. I’m very curious what Frank will do in his new chapter. I will say that Miguel seems to put more effort into his aesthetic which, I really appreciate.

    • spilltheT July 6, 2015

      A few days after “love wins” one queen takes a shot at another… heres the thing, if Miguel thinks he’s “more real” he should come out the closet just like Frank O. did..

      • toohotfortv July 6, 2015

        What I don’t understand is why gay “fans” tend to use homosexuality as pejorative thing. As if being gay should mean anything either way. And it’s obviously always other gay people who say things like that (along with making a point to point out a specific role in said homosexual intimacy). It just doesn’t make sense. There’s a very crabs in a bucket mentality there… If you believe this person is ashamed of his sexuality, why not contribute to a society where such a thing was a non-factor and a mute point of conversation. You just perpetuate stereotypes and spew ignorance. It’s really time you (and the others) learned to love themselves and stop worrying about such petty things; especially in regard to other people’s lives. smh

    • nenzz July 6, 2015

      Me too. Especially because one has a song called FOREST GUMP!!! So stupid…

      • truth(nicki thew reason A.I. is cancelled and Meek playn ha!!) July 7, 2015

        Sam why won’t u post Safaree new girlfriend lolol!!! She WASHED NICKI!!! (On b*****) Nicki tryna make him jealous and he aint bit mo thinkn bout her kii!! His new lady is a creo model honey YAAASSSS!!!! Nicki seethn cause even HER fans r saying he UPgeaded and they deagn her lol!!

  2. DEL BEY July 6, 2015

    While I prefer Miguel’s discography over Franks, there was no need for him to make such a personal statement. No one asked you Miguel but get that promo girl

  3. Skyfall July 6, 2015

    Both are rubbish if you ask me, but if I had to pick it would be Miguel

    • Toohotfortv July 6, 2015

      And why is that?

  4. #TeamTinashe Stan July 6, 2015

    Did he lie? NO.
    Frank only has a buzz because he’s gay.
    HASHTAG: #PointBlankandThePERIOD

    • Missy July 6, 2015

      girl, can’t no body tell me, ms. miguel don’t like a big black hard one, trust me he does. his hair is permed, he knows every angle to pose on and his eyebrows are arched to the gods.

      they need to do a love song and turn it out…..but we hear ms. ocean likes white men.

      • Biracial Butterfly July 7, 2015

        His hair definitely isn’t permed/relaxed, he’s Mexican and black.

    • A&R July 6, 2015

      I second that. Wait, his buzz is that big bc he exploited the “gays”. That’s more like it. Also, Frank seems like the kids who aims to be different for the sake of instead of just being. Lastly, we must not deny the talent that’s required to create inspiring/progressive art that’s also commercial. Pause… Take that in and understand being able to get the masses to digest something complex… Is talent. Frank lacks that. Miguel has that.

  5. Keri Qween July 6, 2015

    I like both but I lean more towards Miguel as far as overall discography, why is he coming for Frank though? He don’t bother anybody.

    • BeyRihLiyah July 6, 2015

      Shut the fuccck up you dumb crusty pusssssy biitch

      • Keri Qween July 6, 2015

        My p**** is far from crusty, clean pink and tight; pressed p*** ????

  6. Quinton251 aka Lil Wayne Stan July 6, 2015

    Miguel is the prince of R&B, besides nobody cared about Frank Ocean till she cam out the closet.

    • Cupid July 6, 2015

      So are we going to pretend like “Swim Good” and “Thinking About You” wasn’t recieving attention way before everyone knew he was “bi-sexual”

  7. truth(nicki thew reason A.I. is cancelled and Meek playn ha!!) July 6, 2015

    He does.

  8. Jamie July 6, 2015

    Is make music what they’re referring to bottoming now? Well, I got Miguel. He hits higher notes.

    • Toohotfortv July 6, 2015

      This is pure ignorance.

  9. BeyRihLiyah July 6, 2015

    Who? Faguel is so irrelevant

  10. DEL BEY July 6, 2015

    why are the homophobes mentioning Franks sexuality on here when Miguel took the shot? K then, hating ass cave people

  11. Janet1814 July 6, 2015

    Awww – the pocket queen has a hard on for Frank. How sweet!

  12. Slay_Hive July 6, 2015

    Uh oh. I smell a cat fight coming???? Anyways I agree with Miguel even though I’d let Frank part me like the Red sea. ????

    • Slayoncé Giselle-Knowles Carter (Formerly RihNavy) July 6, 2015

      Hi MOM!!!

      • Slay_Hive July 6, 2015

        Hey daughta!! ????

    • Justine Skye & Rihanna July 6, 2015

      Not STD_Hive trolling replying to its comments. SCREAMS!

  13. king July 6, 2015

    1. Miguel his a copy cat
    2. i hate the look in his eyes
    3. i hate his voice
    4. i hate his overall look
    5. i hate his TRASH music
    6. i hate how he feel himself too much!!! yucks!!!!
    7. Arrogance is S*** and Miguel the B**** his S***!

    • king July 6, 2015


      PHONE PROBLEMS!!!!!!

    • Jhené Aiko Stan July 6, 2015

      It’s not healthy to have so much hatred in your system fam.

    • Mother July 6, 2015

      I am screaming at #2 tho ????

      • king July 6, 2015


  14. Jhené Aiko Stan July 6, 2015

    I like both artist but Miguel told no lies. He is on another level sonically. He’s miles ahead of what Usher, Neyo, Chris Brown, August Alsina, Omarion, Trey Songz, and Robin Thicke have put out this past decade. The only guys who come even close are The Weeknd and Frank Ocean. They’re both great artist who are currently leading R&B.

    • king July 6, 2015

      The Weeknd and Frank Ocean ONLY!!!!

  15. BOOBIE July 6, 2015

    I bet Frank has a bigger *d**** though

    • Janet1814 July 7, 2015

      No that he ever uses it…

  16. Ozzy July 6, 2015

    LIES. Frank Ocean murdered him with Channel Orange and is currently trending on Twitter but Miguel(who just released a new album) is nowhere to be found.. He is seething at the fact that Frank’s album has way more hype than his, that no one cared about. It was a cute album tho but he TRIED it.

    • LB July 6, 2015

      You better read him like a cop reading him his assault charges.

  17. CL is coming | SNSD, 2NE1, Sistar, T-ara, 4Minute, Exo July 6, 2015

    Isn’t he the guy that leg dropped a girl at an awards show?

  18. Rima July 6, 2015

    The weeknd slays both of them and he has more hits than those two lessers.

  19. coolness July 6, 2015

    I actually lean more towards Miguel’s music. This has a lot do with Miguel being the better vocalist, performer and his sound and lyrics are more digestible to me. I personally didn’t feel Frank’s Channel Orange the way I did with Nostalgia Ultra but he is the superior writer. Miguel better expect some serious pushback from the tumblr/hipster crowd as he just came for their darling.

  20. T Jay July 6, 2015

    I prefer Frank. I listened to his music waaayy before he “came out.” He makes good music with great production.

  21. DEL BEY July 6, 2015

    Deleting my comments @TGJ? After the years I’ve defended this site from your shady biased journalism and this is the thanks I get? My freedom of speech revoked? I’m done with this site, on to the next…

    • CL is coming | SNSD, 2NE1, Sistar, T-ara, 4Minute, Exo July 6, 2015

      Lmao oh please

    • Rima July 6, 2015

      B**** you sound stupid

    • LayCool July 6, 2015

      Are you that they didn’t promote your flop website blog?

      • CL is coming | SNSD, 2NE1, Sistar, T-ara, 4Minute, Exo July 6, 2015

        Lay cool as in Layla and Michelle McCool?

    • Applause July 6, 2015

      Lol bye go to your own flop ass site all you do is bitchh and moan anyway.

      • CL is coming | SNSD, 2NE1, Sistar, T-ara, 4Minute, Exo July 6, 2015

        Lmao his flop blog is more tragic than his faves ability to sing live

  22. Mhud July 6, 2015

    This gay dude should park well.He has zero talent

    • Ozzy July 6, 2015

      Which gay dude tho….. They are both queens.

      • Mhud July 6, 2015

        Lol…..You are so right.

      • king July 6, 2015

        i bet miguel is super gay
        thats why he hates Frank
        he envy Frank

  23. Credits July 6, 2015

    Music is art and when we critique art, you shouldn’t say one is better than the other, instead he should have described why people would prefer listening to his music over frank’s. That would have made a better discussion.

  24. CL is coming | SNSD, 2NE1, Sistar, T-ara, 4Minute, Exo July 6, 2015

    In terms of commercial success, Chris Brown wins over both

    • Rima July 6, 2015

      Terms of success
      Chris brown
      Jason derulo
      The weeknd
      Frank ocean

      • CL is coming | SNSD, 2NE1, Sistar, T-ara, 4Minute, Exo July 6, 2015

        Five more hours, as basic as it is, has me slayed. Especially when in the car on the way to a party

      • Jhené Aiko Stan July 6, 2015

        If you’re talking the Hot 100 sure but that’s it. Miguel and Frank both scanned gold with their albums. Chris hasnt done that since Fame and The Weeknd and Jason have never scanned gold

    • Jhené Aiko Stan July 6, 2015

      Kaleidoscope Dream and Channel Orange both have sold more copies then Fortune and X. Chris may be more successful on the Hot 100 but not albums, at least anymore.

  25. Applause July 6, 2015

    Miguel is telling the truth. Frank is ok but very overrated.

    • king July 6, 2015

      you obviously know nothing about music except trash music

  26. JT July 6, 2015

    Miguel who gassed you? What was the need for this statement this has made you look like a fool, I actually listen to Miguel more but this was unnecessary af

  27. Chaelin Lee PKA CL is coming | 재 이현 김 July 6, 2015

    He seems pressed

  28. DEL BEY July 6, 2015

    All these irrelevants I never knew existed in my mentions ohh, their tragic lives always pressed

  29. RihannaIsMadonna July 6, 2015

    Ha! The audacity! I see no lies tho! But using Frank as a promo tool, makes him a tool

  30. LB July 6, 2015

    SCREAMS!!!! No you don’t, you cannot wrestle yourself into this one Miguella.

    Francine Ocean makes far better music than you do. Francine is a poet, he knows how to capture your mind with this lyrics.

    On and by the way Miguella,

    Channel Orange: 92 Metascore
    Kaleidoscope Dream: 86 Metascore

  31. Frank Ocean Stan July 6, 2015

    Miguel is done. His current single sounds like something he’s already done. He’s bitter.

  32. Arianator Barb July 6, 2015

    Gowrl BYE!!! Channel ORANGE/Nostalgia, ultra>>>>>

  33. Gee July 6, 2015

    I lean towards Miguel more than Frank as an artist but it all comes down to preference. Both guys serve their purpose to their respective fan bases.

  34. Rihyeezy July 6, 2015

    Not at all!

  35. TruthTeller July 6, 2015

    Wait!!! Didn’t Miguel get mad at TGJ in the past for making up a “lie” about what he said about Frank Ocean? I’m starting to think that wasn’t a lie but Miguel didn’t wanna look like an ass

  36. junior July 6, 2015

    Miguel is corny for even saying this!

    Like dude shut the f*** up with your dumb ass! my real s***! wtf is that! every one writes their real s*** you dumb Mexican!

  37. Legend B July 6, 2015

    Hmmm….I love Miguel but i don’t think he would be talkin about Frank Ocean, if he didnt had an new album out. Also, why is talkin about Frank Ocean again???? Just talk about your new album and keep it moving.

  38. RihAmerican (hives scared of R8) July 6, 2015

    So true!! Miguel has better music.Adorn you slays.I never got into Frank Ocean

  39. Really(Beehiveallday July 6, 2015

    My two fav albums of all time are Frank Ocean Channel Orange and Miguel Kaleidoscope dreams but Frank Ocean is a poet, and quiet frankly the best artist are poetic. Its hard to even compare because frank first album brought him past Miguel. Dont get me wrong the second album usually set you up if you going to have longevity in this industry and Miguel did that. To be honest they are both great in their on right. Miguel should try to be the best artist he can be because Frank has only put one album out and Miguel could eat those words later because frank is no amateur.

  40. flawda July 6, 2015

    He ain’t lying. Miguel is a better singer and a better performer. Only thing Frank Ocean has over Miguel is a better he is a better songwriter. Miguel didn’t have to use his sexual orientation to gain attention either.

  41. Ross July 6, 2015

    Hahaa, the way TGJ threw it sounded so arrogant. lol But you know, I kinda agree with him. I haven’t listened to Frank Ocean that much, but he really seems broken hearted (kind of hitting my personal lol), what doesn’t mean it’s worse or better. I like both.

  42. Yoncè July 6, 2015

    Before frank came out the closet everybody was hard on novacane & Thinking Bout You. But when he decided to come out the closet is what made him more interesting. There’s rarely you hear a black r&b singer focus on Gay Love. Like even doe everybody knew about Luther (RIP) he still decided to sing to women in his music just like Miguel…

  43. Grande the Way July 6, 2015

    Frank is a better writer but Miguel is a better singer, performer, and his music overall is better. What I don’t understand is why gays want everyone to be gay? Literally every male R&B artist is accused of being gay until they’re married with kids. Idgi

    • king July 6, 2015

      miguel is super gay

  44. Ugh July 6, 2015

    People need to stop saying Frank got love because he came out of the closet. Go and READ the reviews for Nostalgia Ultra on Metacritic and see all of the year end lists he appeared on for a self-released mixtape on Tumblr, his hype was already there and building. I find it very funny that Miguel is talking about his music but nobody ever mentions his FIRST studio album, how a self-released mixtape on Tumblr get more love than an official studio album? He had Bey, Kanye, Jay, Drake, etc praising him over a mixtape.

  45. Teflon Boy July 6, 2015

    I think they have a lot in common aesthetically i.e. neither follows the herd of identikit RnB acts who all work with the same producers. For that reason alone they both get credit.., also, vocally I believe they are fairly comparable in ability. That said, I would say that Frank is more of an artist. He doesn’t seem overly concerned with formula, genre nor the charts etc. and creates varied soundscapes to fit whatever mood he wants to convey. He lives and dies on the actual music. Miguel on the other hand I would say is a more complete package as he can perform, sing live and has a larger persona, whereas Frank is kind of introspective and delivers less of a 360 persona. It really depends what connotation is applied to the word ‘artist’ as I can understand why Miguel would win for the reasons I have above.

  46. Stevie Nicks stan July 6, 2015

    Smh you queens are too obsessed with vocals

    Some of the greatest rock artists couldn’t sing worth s***

    Lou Reed Jimi Hendrix Roger Waters Michael Stipe Mick Jagger and argurably the greatest songwriter of all time BOB DYLAN were trash vocalists

    So are we going to say Whitney > Bob Dylan because she was a far better singer?

    Nah Songwriting > Vocals

  47. Mark111 July 6, 2015

    Nope, not at all. Sorry Meg, your light skin won’t win here. Frank music is deep, dark and just a trip. His voice works great for HIS music. Meg is nothing more than a wannaBe Prince. You didn’t win that grammy because you only had one good song, Adorn. Frank will always win because Frank is Frank, MEg on the other hand looked and sounded different just 5 years ago.

  48. Mark111 July 6, 2015

    Adios Felicia.

  49. Sherry July 6, 2015

    They are both great in their own ways. Miguel’s music is a little more simple for the common ear whereas Franks is a little more daring and intricate. NU and CO were both great albums. Kaleidoscope Dreams was pretty good too, but I didn’t find myself indulging as much. They are both great songwriters and arrangers though.
    I Miss You>>>>>

    BTW, Miguel was a b**** for that comment. Boy bye!

  50. RATEDXXX July 6, 2015

    one is an attention trick and the other one sounds like a cat in heat….

    miguel just doesn’t do it for me….

    I find it very convenient that while his album was dropping Frank suddenly realized he is gay….

    I hate people who used their personal lives to sell a product..I don’t give a damn how talented you are..

  51. Slayoncé Giselle-Knowles Carter (Formerly RihNavy) July 6, 2015

    Lord, I missed the mess, smh.

  52. Bravo!!! July 7, 2015

    Miguel makes good music, but Frank ocean wording to his music is better. Miguel writing I have heard before. Example, frank ocean thinking about you is a deep writing.

  53. Omega July 7, 2015

    Uh, false.

    Also why compare yourself with someone who has similarly limited vocals? It’s like saying you’re funnier than Will Ferrell…it’s not hard, boo.

  54. Facts July 7, 2015

    Miguel his a copy cat! Frank is better. I like both, but I see Frank over Miguel. Its sad Miguel is throwing rocks at Frank now just because he tries to promote this new album that’s not doing good AT ALL. Frank doesn’t bother anyone. Frank is in this own world.

    • Facts July 7, 2015

      Miguel is* a copy cat!

  55. RANCOR July 7, 2015

    People kill me acting like Frank’s “talent” even matters. He’s another Bruce/Caitlyn. Needed to gimmick himself with gay to get noticed. No one would have cared otherwise. His boring ass would have been about as noticed by the mainstream as Ledisi/Anthony Hamiliton/Janelle Monae had he not revealed he likes other mens penises.

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  57. You wanna love it right bettor like you do then my funky money July 9, 2015

    he need to be quite it and do his music

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