The Dream has compared Beyonce‘s fourth studio album, ‘4′ to Rihanna‘s ‘Talk That Talk‘.
Responsible for crafting jams on both release, the ‘Umbrella’ hit maker has compared the critically acclaimed albums during a conversation he had with the ‘Hollywood Reporter‘, on Bey’s forthcoming fifth studio effort.
His estimation below…
On album #5, the producer shared:
“Her sound is growing with how she’s growing, not because she’s a mother though. She’s just musically growing into a place — it’s the same place we were in with 4.
I think 4 was one of those, what I call, ‘the corner’ albums — same album that Rihanna did when she did Rated R. There are albums that you turn a corner on that aren’t always taken for the glitz and glamour of things, because it’s not as commercial. But they’re corner albums, and they have to be there. She had to turn that corner with 4 in order to get to where we’re trying to go right now.”
A strange comparison? Yes, but it does make sense.
Though critically acclaimed- ‘4‘ like ‘Rated R’ stands as a fan favorite by way of quality, while struggling to fully capture’s the world’s adoration as well as prior releases did, for a number of reasons.
For ‘4‘, it was no doubt the decision to push ‘Run The World‘ and not the superior ‘End Of Time’ as its first single… and for ‘R’?
Well, despite being Ri’s strongest project to date on a lyrical tip, we’d say it was a little too dark & mature for her audience at the time. This, as Dream so accurately put it, prompted the ‘slayage’ that was her ‘Loud’ era.
Of course, while its US sales fail to wow even today, Rihanna‘s transition from Emo-Pop Princess to Tumblr Land Barbie undoubtedly served as the launching pad for many of the achievements she nabbed over the last year and a half.
So, with the pressure on for Bey to score gargantuan sales her new release, here’s hoping the LP’s first single goes some way to surpass feats scored by Rihanna’s latest releases and her own.
Then again, with the means and talent to ensure she does, we’ll doubt she have any trouble doing so.
YOU DON’T SAY……..BITCHPLEASE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 🙂
THE DREAM ON BEHALF OF ALL THE HIVE MEMBERS I KNOW AND FOLLOW ON TWITTER..SHUT THE F*** UP ABOUT THE DAMN ALBUM…LET THE MUSIC F****** SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
Dream shut up this is the most b******* you have ever said yet boy bye
nice excuse why it flopped. lol. nah. who cares. it can’t work everytime. 😉
BUT WHAT HE DID SAY AND TGJ ANALYSIS WAS RIGHT..HE JUST NEEDS TO SHUT THE F*** UP.
TGJ ARE BEING STRANGELY NICE TO RIHANNA ALL OF A SUDDEN…HMMMM
TGJ ARE BEING STRANGELY NICE TO RIHANNA ALL OF A SUDDEN, AS OF LATE…HMMMM
This fat chicken rating n**** needs to shut the hell up he don’t know nothing about good music he show up to the Grammys with a boys N DA hood hat on WTF! The Grammys is a white event you know.. Don’t come dress like a street thug
This fool needs to sit his ass down! Rated Goat sounds nothing like 4.
THE DREAM WAS THE C*** THAT SAID WE WAS GETTING NEW MUSIC BEFORE THE SUPERBOWL…I DON’T TRUST THIS F**…AND PLEASE DONT COMPARE BEYONCE’S REAL MUSIC TO RIHANNA’S HOOD ANTHEMS. THANKS.
I type in my address wrong that’s why my pic looks different in my last comment*
But dream really needs to start dressing with some respect when you come to white events like the Grammys he made black people look like ghetto ass monkeys. Who comes to the Grammys wearing a boys N DA HOOD hat with gold chains and his pants hanging off his ass. That’s why white people don’t like black people at there shows cause they dress like they just left Compton to come there.
His little fat overweight self
Only gay men and her husband stan for Beyonce the was The Dream and Kanye do…..
I better not see this ghetto ass n**** at another white event like the Grammys. They should have let kreayshawn in at least she would have came looking decent not looking like she came out of New York crack house with 50 cent
I’m yet to see Lies in what he said.
let’s keep it simple : The NAVY are here for the dance Songs and THE HIVE are her for the Uptempos , it is not that hard y’all.
but they both are to blame cuz they Give their first singles 100% of ther time all the time and ignore the rest of the tracks ……. See Rihanna’s Loud Era , if she didn’t go strong with the promo , the LOUD era “specifically singles” would have been a Big flop
and this what Beyonce Sadly did with the 4 Era , she didn’t have a clear strategy to deal with her singles and she was Bleeding Singles to the point we , as her casual fans , didn’t know what single to support or what single is “IN” Now , and her pregnancy made it sure the Era won’t be IASF pt.2 !!!
Since 2005 and this is the case !! Both Bey and Rihanna should care about the Music and to PAY attention what their fans want from them.
rated r was the better album & it actually had hits 3 top 10 hits to be exact
And ya better not report me either I’m speaking my mind about this ghetto ass fool who shows up at a WHITE event looking like a car jacker out of Philly
Nice article TGJ but Dream hunty, you can f*** right off cos you know 4 couldn’t hold a candle to Slayted R’s light.
Honey chile sweet tea! I see the Titanic gorls be seething todai!!
#POW!! this would be a hot ass stan war if tjg hadn’t F***** up the reply button
Whatever…so is the song gonna debut on the LIBAD documentary or what?? I can’t wait to hear what this sounds like. Her team is really being quiet about it. Hope this long wait pays off.
Rated Flop critically acclaimed though? On which planet?
WOW……REALLY?
I don’t know what to say? I’m surprised that The Dream is comparing Beyonce to Rihanna especially in such a passive way. typically Beyonce is viewed as the “Queen” who leads not someone who follows and especially behind Rihanna (I didn’t like 4 nor did I like Rated R). Hummmm, anyway I think the ppl around Beyonce are putting a lot of pressure on her. I just hope her new project does well for her sake. I’m especially curious to hear her lead single!
BOTH ALBUMS WERE HUGE FLOPS TBH THEY DIDN’T DO ADELE NUMBERS BECAUSE THERE MUSIC IS GENERIC…. 4 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE BEYONCE 21 BUT EPICALLY FAILED NO HITS NOR NOTHING WHY DOESN’T BEYONCE HAVE A DIAMOND ALBUM LIKE ADELE SINCE BEYONCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE KING
RATED R WAS AN OK ALBUM BUT THE DUMB PICKED WRONG SINGLES WHY TF WASN’T LAST SONG, COLD CASE LOVE, OR FIRE BOMB SINGLES???? F****** STUPID H** I TELL YOU SMH WHATEVER RITA SECOND ALBUM IS BOUT TO SLAY THE US I HOPE YOU H*** ARE READY FOR THE SLAYAGE THAT IS RITA
Rated r had more depth than 4 I don’t understand the comparsion at all! The dreams ego is bigger than Beyonce and rihannas connected! He needs to have a seat!
“WHY DOESN’T BEYONCE HAVE A DIAMOND ALBUM LIKE ADELE SINCE BEYONCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE KING” ClockedT 🙂
This fat watermelon eating n**** set black people back 50 years at the Grammys how he look so ghetto looking
Hear ye, hear f***** ye
I don’t what you lowly dirty Navy s**** getting any ideas and thinking your cocksucking fav will ever match up the Beyonce, okay? Rihanna is the s*** beneath Beyonce’s assistant’s shoe and that’s what you have to accept. And another f****** thing, if I catch any of you h*** talking s*** about the Queen when the single comes out I will personally send a v**** to your Windows ’85 desktop with the swiftness.
Snatch a Navy. Save a life.
Breaking News: Rihanna goes one day without having s**.
KIIIIIIII KIIIII KIIIIII. Riwhore must have sucked him off when they recording UPL. Well let me tell you something dearies, Rihanna won’t know what to do with herself when the Queen makes her arrival. She just won’t!!
Rated R= Piece of f****** s***.
4= Bountiful delight of beautiful glory.
I know this fat s*** didn’t compare the Kang to the industry d*** polisher. I KNOW HE DID NOT!!
UM RATED R SOLD 3.5 MILLION WORLDWIDE AND 4 SOLD 2.1 MILLION WORLDWIDE!! BUT THESE 2 ALBUMS ARE THS BEST ALBUMS THEY HAVE DONE IMO!!
This is why people get the game f***** up. The cheek of this oompa lampa to compare 4 told Rated R. 4 was a labor of love that took time and effort. R is just a compilation of demos that LA put together, no real emotion behind it. It hurts my p**** to know that people in the industry really think Beyonce is similar to Rihanna even though Rihanna hasn’t got a shred of talent. Not a single shred.
What is her vocal range? What can she write? Does she dance? Can she act? No she cannot and just for making this stupid comparison I HOPE his new album flops harder Kreayshawn’s s***** album.
I think we all know rated r was the better album it had meaning to it. 4 was tired no one was here for it thats why she had no hits from the album the radios didnt wanna play her songs cause they were wack.
& i do agree with @Rita if beyonce supposed to be some type of King why does that desperate pregnancy faking hood h** have a diamond album Britney has a diamond album so do Adele n Madonna…lol
*sips tea* hehehe
Oh please, Rated R was quality whilst 4closure is trash. Rated R was personal whereas 4closure was trying to jump on the Adele bandwagon. Rated R had some top ten hits and a Hot 100 #1, 4closure had no hits, not even a top ten.
Rated R sold 3 million worldwide, 4closure is nowhere near that. Rated R was perfect lyrically whereas 4closure is a generic ghetto mess (what the hell is Run the world, party, end of time, 1+1 algeba).
Dream is insulting Riri by comparing that trash to Rated R. I hope Rihanna never works with him again.
@Beyfraud F*** YOU b****! You hear that? I said F*** YOU! How can Rated S*** be personal when she didn’t write it? B wrote EVERY single song on 4 and it came straight from the heart. Loose p**** b**** you are to even think Rihanna could be better than B in anyway. Damn s*** b****** better learn their places before a b**** have to crack a whip or two in this mutha.
GUUURL 4 PUT MY ASS TO SLEEP THE ALBUM ISNT MEMORABLE AT ALL A MEMORABLE ALBUM HAS HITS…… BUT RATED WAS JUST OK TO DARK FOR MY TASTE BUT IT DID HAVE THE BETTER SONGS THAT MAD HOUSE INTRO WAS SO DOPE
RATED R>>>>>>4
What s***?! Oh golly I am fuming! This roasted pork joint has been running his mouth for too long and it’s high time someone put a sock in it. Yo you should see how mad I am right now, i’m finna smash something in this house right now like for real.
Oh yes girls, I see that you are pressed and its making my p**** tingle to be honest.
Sorry Hive im with the navy on this one rated r was far much better n more successful than 4 #TheTruth #Deal
BEYONCE HAS THE ORIGINAL NAVY NOT WhoRIHANNNA. Check out BEYONCE in destinys childs video-SURVIVOR. THATS WHEN THE ORIGINAL BEYONCE NAVY WAS BORN. RIHANNA CANT STOP COPYING THE QUEEN’s IDEAS. BEYONCE HAD THE NAVY LOOK BEFORE RIHANNA STOLE IT on her video-HARD and then on her album UNAPOLOGETIC. SO rihanna fans STOP CALLING URSELF NAVY COS U JUST GONNA BE LIVING A FAT LIE. QUEEN BEY OWBS TGE NAVY. THUMBS UP my beautiful NAVY HIVES.
The wickedest Kiii is that Taylor outsold them all with ONE album.
Navy got jokes huh?
We’ll see who has the laugh today!
http://ivorromeo.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/rihanna-naked-stolen-private-pictures-shaved-p****-and-p****-topless-n***-ass-9×2-400×533.jpg?w=400
Dirty b****.
4 SOLD 3.2 MILLION WORLDWIDE WITH NO HITS.
RATED R SOLD 3.5 MILL WITH HITS
ALL RIHERPES ALBUMS SUCK.
F*** THE RIHTURD NAVI!
This is why the Dream will never be s***.
LONG LIVE THE NAVY HIVE. THE_DREAM why in the world would u say crap like that huh? King of NAVYHIVE, BEYONCE 4 was more of a grown folks album while the INDUSTRY W****===RIHANNA’s RATED R was merely a flopped compilation on trash. NEVER compare these two albums again.NEVER. 4 was critically acclaimed while rated r was the worst album ive ever heard from that UNtalented whoRIHANNA who only knows how to share her ugly BARBADOS P****.
UGHHHHHH. You Guys Are ALWAYSSSSSSSSSSSSAS Dickriding Beyonce. “Rated R” Is Better Than “4” & That’s A Fact That We ALL Have To Take In. Beyonce Is Queen There’s No Doubt About That, But Even When 4 Flopped You Guys Are Still Saying “4” Is Better Than Rated R But Rated R Has 1. Sold More & 2. Had 3 Singles In The Top 10. I Don’t Get Why Ya Are Scared To Say “4” Flopped It Did There’s Nothing Bad About It, It Just Means Bey Has To Come Harder & I Don’t Understand Why This Comparison Was Even Brought Up. #ShadeNOShade
For once i agree. I feel each artists best piece of work is always their least successful album. 4 is a hot album. Bey really brought her vocals to the forefront. With Rated R Rih was in a very dark place and allowed her emotions and feelings to reflect in her music which is very rare for me to see in her.
But at the end of the day he shouldnt compare 4 and Rated R because they have 2 completely diff sounds lyrically and conceptually. 4 is way lighter than Rated R
UM 4 SOLD 2.1 MILLION WORLDWIDE DONT ADD THAT EXTRA MILLION TO SAVE FACE FOR THAT FLOP ALBUM 4!! @RIHANNA!!! LOL RR OUTSOLD 4 TTT OUTSOLD 4 AND NOW UNAPLOGETIC HAS OUTSOLD 4 SO STOP REACHING!!
Rated r is my favorite Rihanna CD 4 is my least favorite CD from Beyonce you do the math kiiii
I’M I THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICES THAT RIHANNA STANS ONLY DEFEND HER WITH NUMBERS.DON’T GET ME WRONG NUMBERS ARE IMPORTANT BUT I FIND THEIR ONLY DEFENSE FOR HER IS HER NUMBER OF HITS AND NUMBER OF ALBUMS SOLD.JUST AN OBSERVATION.
OH SO LET ME GET IT UNLESS YOU HAVE A HIT SONG YOUR ALBUM IS S***. OK THEN I GUESS ARETHA FRANKLIN IS S*** THEN BECAUSE SHE NEVER HAD A NUMBER ONE HIT ON BILLBOARD.
REALLY THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
4 SOLD 3.2 MILLION WORLD WIDE WITH NO HITS. FOR ALL THE HITS RIHTURD HAS, HER ALBUMS DON’T SELL AS MUCH.
RATED R was a dark trashy album but yes it had a few hit songs but CHECK OUT ITS SALES WORLD WIDE AND COMPARE TO THAT OF BEY’s alv 4. 4 had no hits but it is a TIMELESS ALBUM and will last longer in our memories like the GRAMMY_WINNING LOVE ON TOP and 4 sold 3.2million world though it had NO HITS. Rated R had some hits but ONLY sold 3.4 million. That was a SHAME. KING BEY should never be compared to Rihanna. Rihanna is the INDUSTRY W****. she even recently posted a picture of her all naked, exposing her BLACK UGLY TITS. YUCK. And het stay video was totally P***. This b**** with no talents is A DISGRACE to women in AMERICA.
For once the navys right rated r was actually a real great album that produced hits unlike 4..
SCHOOLIN’ LIFE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
I MISS YOU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
START OVER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
I WAS HERE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
RATHER DIE YOUNG>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
I CARE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
LOVE ON TOP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
END OF TIME>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL OF RATED R
4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RATED R
AN ALBUM BEING GREAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRODUCING HITS.
@ShadeNOShade
U said Rated R was better but didnt actually explain why!! All you talked about was the commercial success it had not about the actual music!! Just because an album may have sold more than another, doesnt mean its the “better” album!
I’m not even about to entertain this post or whatever the dream is talking about, but I will say this, I’m happy that she’s going in the same direction as 4, that was her strongest project next to DIL. With no too ten singles the album along with the single went multi platinum with the support of people who know and love good music. As for Rihanna Rated R is still my Fav project from her since GGGB, the sound, bass, quality of that album was everything to me.
Rated R shits on 4 quality wise, one of the best albums ever. Oh and HIVE are comparing sales. Really? Rated R outsold it even though RTW was a dance song as a first single and Russian Roulette was a ballad. Plus Beyonce had Countdown/LOve on Top/End of Time, other fast songs that were released as singles like Rihanna had Rude Boy/Hard/Te Amo, so it’s pretty equal. And no Beyonce’s fans, 4 has not sold 3 million, it has yet to reach it. And no, 4 is not a classic album, it’s very boring and people barely remember it. Rated R is at 3 + million though, not at 3.5!
LMAO AT THE STAN WHO SAID UNAFLOPOGETIC OUTSOLD 4.
UNAFLOPOGETIC IS STRUGGLING!
IT STRUGGLED TO GET TO 2 MILLION in 3 MONTHS
OMG THE HIVE ALWAYS LOOKS SO PRESSED THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO INSULT SOMEONE TO TRY N GET THERE POINT ACROSS…. GET OVER IT RIHANNA IN GENERAL MAKES THE BETTER MUSIC ANYWAYS
@ LIKICA
4 HAS NOT SOLD 3 MILLION WW? RECEIPTS?
IN MY OPINION, “4” was beyonces best album. Vocally, lyrically & musically it slayed. It wasn’t full of her typical booty twerking jams, but she FINALLY got a chance to do what she WANTED to do…..and that’s HEARTFELT music. The album would’ve sold more if she didn’t release 29650789975447 singles at once. Her pregnancy didn’t help either.
IN MY OPINION, “Rated R” was Rihanna’s best album. The production was stellar, and the lyrics were out of this world. I also loved her fashion during that era. Vocally, “Unapologetic” is her best album.
The Dream was just saying how both albums were unappreciated, and it doesn’t help that he produced songs on both of them. 🙂
RATED R IS NOT CLASSIC! LMAO! THE NAVI IS SO BASIC
LMAO! WHAT WOULD A TAYLOR SWIFT FAN KNOW ABOUT GREAT MUSIC?
DIL SHITS ON RIHANNA’S ENTIRE CATALOG. SONGS LIKE DIL, BE WITH YOU, ME MYSELF AND I, CRAZY IN LOVE ARE CLASSICS.
LETS LOOK AT THE LEGENDARY GREAT ALBUMS LIKE CONFESSIONS FROM USHER THRILLER FROM MICHAEL JACKSON 21 FROM ADELE ETC THESE WERE GREAT QUALITY ALBUMS WITH HITS 4 SOLD DECENT BUT IT WON’T BE REMEMBERED IT HAD NO HITS MADE NO IMPACT RADIO DIDN’T CARE TO PLAY HER SONGS…
AT THE END OF THE DAY BEYONCE ISNT EVEN THAT GOOD OF AN ALBUM SELLER OR SINGLE SELLER ATLEAST RIHANNA SINGLES SELLS MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF ALBUM SELLS
@ Beyfraud Armstrong
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Oh please, Rated R was quality whilst 4closure is trash.
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QUALITY, versatility, lyrical content :
“4” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any Rihanna album so far.
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Rated R was personal whereas 4closure was trying to jump on the Adele bandwagon.
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Both of them were personal!
And how do you know “4” was “trying to jump on the Adele bandwagon”?
Did Adele NOT say, from her very own lips, that Beyonce is her very main inspiration AND idol?
Your logic is so f***** up!!!
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Rated R had some top ten hits and a Hot 100 #1, 4closure had no hits, not even a top ten.
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BREAKING NEWS : THE UNITED STATES IS NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
BREAKING NEWS II : BILLBOARD CHARTS CONSIST OF 100 POSITIONS, NOT 10!!!!!!!
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Rated R sold 3 million worldwide, 4closure is nowhere near that.
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And how many YEARS did it take “Rated R” to sell 3 million? 🙄
“4” is just 200K behind the the 3 million mark, and it’s been out only since mid-2011. Plus it’s DVD has sold +250k at least!
So miss me with this MATHEMATICALLY INVALID one.
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Rated R was perfect lyrically whereas 4closure is a generic ghetto mess (what the hell is Run the world, party, end of time, 1+1 algeba).
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*1 = “4” was trying to jump on Adele’s bandwagon
*2 = “4” was generic
1 + 2 = “ADELE IS GENERIC”.
#MATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So UNTIL you prove how the hell is ADELE GENERIC, you’re nothing but a DELUSIONAL pressed C***!
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Secondly, when your faves are Britney, Katy and Rihanna, then you got no room to talk, and you can only stuff a big Black d*** in that c**-swallowing mouth of yours and shut the f*** up!
sounds like he just admitted that Bey is tryna keep up with Rih…a fact that we already knew
You guys should really check your grammar a little better… the typos are starting to get quite distracting…
#JustSaying
MUSIC
February 15, 2013 at 1:37 pm
@ LIKICA
4 HAS NOT SOLD 3 MILLION WW? RECEIPTS?
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Where’s your proof that 4 has sold 3 million? And don’t bring me articles from random sites about it like they claim that Dangerously in Love has sold 11 million but it didn’t, it is at 8.5 million. It used to be 2.8, then 3 million and now 3.2 million lol like really? Where do you see 4 charting? Even if it does, it’s at the bottom of the charts (this week thanks to SB performance). It was at 2.1 at the end of 2011. You are telling that it has sold 900 000 copies since then during 2012? It wasn’t even charting in 2012 in other countries but the USA. It has yet to reach 600 000 copies in the UK, so it’s at 2.5-2.6 million max.
Plus, Metacritic (for those who say that Rated R is not critically acclaimed)
Rated R – 75
4 – 73
A TAYLOR SWIFT TAKING ABOUT QUALITY.OH THE IRONY WHEN HOELOR CAN ACTUALLY WRITE A SONG THAT IS NOT ABOUT HER EX-BOYFRIEND WHO SHE DATED FOR 2 HOURS THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT QUALITY.
AND LET’S NOT GET IT TWISTED QUALITY DOES NOT SELL THESE DAYS, BACK IN THE 1990’S IT DID BUT NOT KNOW.
SO HUGE SALES AND HITS MEANS QUALITY EXPLAIN WHY “OUR VERSION OF EVENTS” AND “KALEIDOSCOPE DREAM” DON’T HAVE BIG SALES.
EXPALIN WHY ARTIST LIKE JOJO, EMELI SANDE, MIGUEL, LUKE JAMES, BON IVER, TAMIA AND SO ON DON’T HAVE HITS AND BIG SALES.
AND IS JUSTIN BEIBER REALLY THE PICTURE OF QUALITY MUSIC AND TALENT BECAUSE HE HAS HITS AND HUGE SALES.
REALLY THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE.
Lies lies lies M***********!!!!!! you fat ass rotisserie chicken go spread yourself over some rice, and corn bish! You know damn well 4 was a flop, and RATED R was a great album that beyonce wish she was capable of!
@PAT
Check Beyonce’s album sales, tour gross, Box Office/DVD stats, legendary awards, Forbes numbers, and then come here and talk.
Because God only knows by how many light years Beyonce is higher than Rihanna.
@ WATERSPORTS
That bish old so yeah light years your right….but rihanna slays that b**** on any given day. Beyonce has never had any albums people could fully listen too. Her albums have been s*****, but she’s had a few singles off of it that saved it…
OH AND SINCE THESE FOOLS WHO HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY BESIDES HITS AND SALES…
WHEN RIHANNA CAN DO THAT GUITAR RIFF VOCAL RUN STACCATO IN THE ENDING OF THE BRIDGE OF I CARE THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT QUALITY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVxN1o5WFgg
REALLY THINK BEFORE YOU TALK.
TAYLOR SWIFT WRITES HER OWN MUSIC SOMETHING BEYONCE CANT DO LOL
BEYONCE WILL NEVER SELL LIKE TAYLOR OR ADELE HAHA THAT B**** AINT KING SHE CANT EVEN SELL A MILLION FIRST WEEK
You know damn well 4 was a flop, and RATED R was a great album that beyonce wish she was capable of!
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@ Honey child plz
Rated R : 3.000.000 in 38 months
4: 2.800.000 CDs + 250.000 DVDs in 19 months
^^^^^^ Who’s FLOP again?
@ SLAYER SWIFT
Yeah i don’t get the kING tittle my damn self…Bish sell a million no sell half a million the first week than we can talk. Stop tooting your own horn bish..She wish she could do adele, and taylor swift numbers that’s why she’s going hard now.. *waits for single* i need a laugh
BAD WAS ONE OF THE BEST CONCEPTS EVER AND BETTER THAN THRILLER BUT DID IT LIVE UP TO THE SALES OF THRILLER NO. SO I GUESS BAD WAS NOT A QUALITY ALBUM.
BUTTERFLY WAS MC BEST ALBUM BUT DID IT LIVE UP TO DAYDREAM SALES NO SO I GUESS THAT BUTTRFLY IS A S***** ALBUM THEN.
THINK BEFORE YOU RIGHT.
Lol in the long run beyonce is still the flop….what was your point for all that @ WATERSPORSTS LMFAOoo
Beyonce is a flop..she just need to release the single so it could claim it’s top 100 spot. She now she isn’t worthy of that king tittle she prematurely gave herself! lol bish is a joke…She’s frighten that even with all this promotion she still can’t hold a candle to ADELE, TAYLOR SWIFT, or even rihanna…honey don’t worry the being in the top 10 R&B spot isn’t as bad as it seems…
know**
TAYLOR SWIFT SALES A MILLION IN A WEEK WHILE IT TAKES BEYONCE 7 MONTHS TO SELL A MILLION LMAO BEYONCE IS A PEASANT TO TAYLOR ADELE N GAGA HAHAHAHAHAH N RIHANNA KILLS BEYONCE IN THE SINGLES SO BEYONCE IS FAR FROM A KING LMAO… MADONNA HAD A TOP 10 HIT LAST YEAR BEY HASNT HAD A TOP 10 SINCE 09 HAHAHA
@ KING B> RIHANNA
“Think before you right”??????
honey use your own advice child *sips tea* obviously you don’t
IF I WAS ONE OF THE BEST SELLING SOLO ARTIST OF ALL TIME WITH 75M ALBUM SOLD WORLDWIDE.
IF TINA TURNER, MARIAH CAREY AND MJ SAID THEY LOVE ME AS AN ARTIST.
IF I WAS IN THE TOP THREE BEST SELLING FEMALE GROUPS OF ALL-TIME.
IF I HAD 17 GRAMMYS
IF I HAD THE REPSECT OF MY PEERS
IF I HAD ONE OF THE BEST SONGS OF ALL TIME BY ROLLING STONE
IF I HAD THE SONG OF THE DECADE BY VH1
IF I CREATED ONE OF THE MOST DANCE CRAVE SING THRILLER AND RHYTHM NATION
IF I HAD 185 MUSIC AWARDS
IF I WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO BREAK SO MANY RECORDS
AND HAILED AS ONE OF THE BEST ARTIST FROM MY GENERATION AND CONSIDERED AS THE BEST FEMALE ENTERTAINER OF MY GENERATION
YES I WOULD CALL MYSELF KING, FOOLS IT IS MORE THAN NUMBERS DARLING.
THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
EVEN KE$HA ASS IS DOING BETTER THAN BEYONCE ALONG WITH NICKI SO MANY GIRLS ARE SLAYING BEYONCE ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY KING MY ASS LOL A KING WITH NO DIAMOND ALBUM MAKES NO SENSE ADELE HAS A DIAMOND ALBUM ON HER SECOND ALBUM N TAYLORS RED WILL GO DIAMOND ITS SELLING VERY WELL
LMFAOOOOO in her dreams. BeYAWNce never could, but she tried.
Obviously!!!! @honeychildplease
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Comparsion
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BEYONCE:
1- Album sales = 27 million solo + 41 million as the leader of DC3 + 3.2 million DVDs solo.
2- Tours = $220 million solo + $150 million collabo + MCSWT is slaying worldwide
3- Box Office gross = $885 million (300% #WIN), 3 movies grossed +100 million above the budget.
4- Grammys = 17, World Music Legend awards = 3
5- Wealth = $400 million ($255 million in just 3 years)
RIHANNA:
1- Album sales = 29 million
2- Tours = $187 million
3- Box Office = One movie grossed $303 million (155% the budget #FLOP), and it didn’t make more than $98 above the budget.
4- Grammys = 7, World Music Legend awards = 0
5- Wealth = Somewhere under $150 million
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I think it’s clear which one of them is a “flop” compared to the other by now, right?
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HONEYCHILDPLEASE YOUR REPLY WOULD MATTER IF I REALLY TOOK ADVICE FROM AN UNLOYAL FICKLE BANDWAGON FAN THAT YOU ARE.
SLAYLOR SWIFT KESHA HAD A HIT BUT WHERE ARE HER ALBUM SALES THO? MADONNA HAD A TOP TEN HIT BUT WERE ARE HER ALBUMS SALES THO?
TAYLOR IS HAVING SUCCESS BUT I’M STILL WAITING ON HER TO WRITE A SONG THAT IS NOT ABOUT HER BOYFRIEND AND 1 HOUR RELATIONSHIP.
THINK BEFORE YOU TALK.
Those are their best albums but niether are masterpieces so you can tell their music is average at best.
Lol i get what he’s saying but U know because of the title of this post its going to get real nasty up in here… Grabs popcorn
Wierd Comments from The Dream
they are in the same place as they were in four, but moving forward?
If they are in the same place then theres no progression
I didn’t think i would say it but although i’m bored by both of these singers
mostly due to over exposure in the media i’m finding rihanna a bit more interesting to watch, she’s not the performer beyonce is but beyonce is doing the same thing all the time now.
Rihanna makes herself look ridiculous with the bad gyal weed smoking antics and immaturity but beyonce appointing herself as some kind of queen over womankind is equally out of touch with reality.
. : : W A T E R S P O R T S : : . THAT THING THAT NEEDS A NEW WIG BECAUSE HIS OR HER UGLY FACE NEEDS THE LORD, DON’T ARGUE WITH THAT THING BECAUSE YOU SHALL NOT GO ANYWAY WITH A SWALLOW MINDED H** THAT HAS NO MUSICAL KNOWLEDGE.
EUROPE
APR 15 – Belgrade, Serbia– Kombank Arena – SOLD OUT!
APR 17 – Zagreb, Croatia – Arena Zagreb
APR 19 – Bratislava, Slovakia – Slovnaft Arena – SOLD OUT!
APR 21 – Amsterdam, Holland – Ziggo Dome – SOLD OUT!
APR 22 – Amsterdam, Holland – Ziggo Dome – SOLD OUT!
APR 24 – Paris, France – Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy – SOLD OUT!
APR 25 – Paris, France – Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy – SOLD OUT!
APR 26 – Birmingham, UK – LG Arena
APR 29 – London, UK – The O2
APR 30 – London, UK – The O2
MAY 1 – London, UK – The O2
MAY 3 – London, UK – The O2
MAY 7 – Manchester, UK – Manchester Arena
MAY 11 – Dublin, Ireland – The O2 – SOLD OUT!
MAY 12 – Dublin, Ireland – The O2 – SOLD OUT!
MAY 14 – Antwerp, Belgium – Sportpaleis – SOLD OUT!
MAY 15 – Antwerp, Belgium – Sportpaleis – SOLD OUT!
MAY 17 – Zurich, Switzerland – Hallenstadion – SOLD OUT!
MAY 18 – Milan, Italy – Mediolanum Forum – SOLD OUT!
MAY 20 – Montpellier, France – Park & Suites Arena – SOLD OUT!
MAY 22 – Munich, Germany – Olympiahalle – SOLD OUT!
MAY 24 – Berlin, Germany – O2 World – SOLD OUT!
MAY 25 – Warsaw, Poland – National Stadium—Orange Warsaw Festival
MAY 27 – Copenhagen, Denmark – Forum – SOLD OUT!
MAY 28 – Oslo, Norway – Telenor Arena
MAY 29 – Stockholm, Sweden – Ericsson Globe Arena – SOLD OUT!
NORTH AMERICA
JUN 28 – Los Angeles – BET Experience/Staples Center – SOLD OUT!
JUN 29 – Las Vegas, NV – MGM Grand Garden Arena – SOLD OUT!
JUL 2 – San Jose, CA – HP Pavilion at San Jose – SOLD OUT!
JUL 5 – Oklahoma City, OK – Chesapeake Energy Arena – SOLD OUT!
JUL 6 – Dallas, TX – American Airlines Center – SOLD OUT!
JUL 9 – Ft. Lauderdale, FL – BB&T Center
JUL 10 – Miami, FL – American Airlines Arena – SOLD OUT!
JUL 12 – Atlanta, GA – The Arena @ Gwinnett Center
JUL 13 – Nashville, TN – Bridgestone Arena – SOLD OUT!
JUL 15 – Houston, TX – Toyota Center – SOLD OUT!
JUL 17 – Chicago, IL – United Center – SOLD OUT!
JUL 18 – St. Paul, MN – Xcel Energy Center – SOLD OUT!
JUL 20 – Detroit, MI – The Palace of Auburn Hills – SOLD OUT!
JUL 21 – Toronto, ON – Air Canada Centre – SOLD OUT!
JUL 22 – Montreal, QC – Bell Centre – SOLD OUT!
JUL 23 – Boston, MA – TD Garden – SOLD OUT!
JUL 25 – Philadelphia, PA – Wells Fargo Center – SOLD OUT!
JUL 26 – Atlantic City, NJ – Boardwalk Hall – SOLD OUT!
JUL 27 – Charlotte, NC – Time Warner Cable Arena – SOLD OUT!
JUL 29 – Washington, DC – Verizon Center – SOLD OUT!
JUL 30 – Washington, DC – Verizon Center – SOLD OUT!
AUG 2 – Uncasville, CT – Mohegan Sun – SOLD OUT!
AUG 3 – Brooklyn, NY – Barclays Center – SOLD OUT!
AUG 4 – Brooklyn, NY – Barclays Center – SOLD OUT!
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YEASS BEYONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SLAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I find it shallow that people always raise the issue of money and how much each artist has made as some kind of achievement.
Is beyonce paying the bills of people who say she is the greatest thing since slice bread because of how much money she’s earned?
Are the people that bring up money all the time aware that new york has it’s highest rate of homeless people in history right now?
Beyonce could cloth and feed all those people tomorrow, but instead shes paying $56 for every nail she wore at the superbowl?
Its her money she can do what she wants with it, and it might not be her responsibility to intervene to help people who don’t have the things she has but it sort of makes me feel sick that she’s talking about how expense her babys bootys costs when people are out begging for food.
We need to be very careful who we hold up as role models, because actions speak louder than bank balances.
Rated r was the better if by nothng else then the fact that it was her life she sang about, bey once again was playing a part.
rated r was more critically aclaimed then any bey album (fact)
rated r sold more (fact)
rated r had the bigger career impact(fact)
rated r had the hits (fact)
yes numbers dont prove greatness but a lack of those numbers dont proof s*** either
the hive is sad n always have something to prove get a life seriously beyonce dont give a f*** about none of you like forreals she doesn’t even acknowledge her fans
King B>Rihanna
February 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm
. : : W A T E R S P O R T S : : . THAT THING THAT NEEDS A NEW WIG BECAUSE HIS OR HER UGLY FACE NEEDS THE LORD, DON’T ARGUE WITH THAT THING BECAUSE YOU SHALL NOT GO ANYWAY WITH A SWALLOW MINDED H** THAT HAS NO MUSICAL KNOWLEDGE.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CLOCK HA SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh why did he need to say that? Just Shut the f*** up Dream these producers just need to shut the hell up like really. People already put these ladies up against eachother enough as it is, I just cant think as to WHAT went through his mind to think it would be OK to say something like that without causing s***! I just cant with this fool… LET THE F****** MUSIC SPEAK FOR ITSELF PLEASE!
His justification was a total mess. 4 was nothing like Rated R, they had completely different tones, styles, purposes and life influences! What a dumb f***, Im a Bey fan and Im not even mad cos its about Ri because I liked Rated R that was her best album IMO, but they were soooo different. Only reason I can think of why he would say that is maybe he means generally in terms of how personal they were to the artist! But even still, Dream just SIT THE F*** DOWN you been doin a whole lot of mouth running recently.
On another note… Love the giff at the end tho.
Someone or hell a woman who calls herself king has a serious ego problem if she’s king without a diamond album what makes Adele mariah shania Whitney and Celine and britney? I guess a God? Well take that then
TGJ got it right. Bey’s problem with ‘4’ was the lead single. As far as quality goes, it was her best sounding album till date. It wasn’t meant for commercial success, and her singles are proof of that. The woman knows how to make #1 singles, but she’s trying to do it with out being generic, redundant, and predictable. She chooses quality over quantity, and the masses respect that. That’s why it didn’t take her 7 years to get a mf #1 album and why she is one of the most, if not the most, awarded artist in history
Rihanna may have more #1 singles, but Beyonce definitely has more memorable songs. Facts
Please! The Dream sounds as stupid as he looked at The Grammy’s…
You cant compare Rated R to the SNOOZE FEST that was 4 ….
That album was boring . It was Beyonce’s worst album.
Rated R was EVERYTHING! …… A heartbroken woman singing her heart out!
Hopefully Bey brings it on this album, and hopefully she brings something NEW.
*places drink on 4 which he uses as a coaster*
I like how #KING dominates each and every cell of @mctheplacetobe’s brain!
Look at her now!
#IRATE and #FUMING just because
–> KING <–
created that title for her very own self!
I LIVE!!!!!!
Personally I Think “RATED R” Is Better Than “4” Simply Because It’s Deeper, The Lyrics Have More Substance And You Can Relate Yourself To The Songs.
While “4” Is Beyonce Best Album, It’s Lake Of Depth!
I Wish You All A Nice Weekend!!
Best comment on this post goes to @s******
Both are really weak when it comes to the most important thing: the MUSIC
Who the hell is praising Taylor Swift on this post? lol when was this about her? Btw even Rihanna sounds better. That girl can´t sing and her songs are for 10 years old kids, just horrible. Her performance at the grammys was so mediocre, she had the biggest theatrics of the night and still managed to be the worst performance, nobody stood up. Both Beyonce and Rihanna slay Taylor Swift. It´s hard to say cos neither of them are too good but damn… Taylor is the worst
I don’t think either album was that great. I liked the vocals on 4 but the songs were kinda boring. Rated r didn’t have a lot of hits either except rude boy and hard so don’t know y the navy tryna act like it was a big album since thriller.
@My FOREHEAD THO
Euuh I’m Sorry I’m Not Goat Biggest Fan And I Know Bee Is More Talented Than Her, But Seriously R****** Has A Better Catalog Of Meaningful Songs Than Beyonce!
All Beyonce Memorable Songs( SL, CIL, NG, DIVA…) Are Shallowness Except “HALO”.
Sorry:-(
Both were solid albums but 4 is better.
@Slayor Swift
Carrie Underwood shits on Taylor
Rihanna music shits on beyonce music tbh Rihanna has a great catalog of music
@PRINCE MACHIAVEL
“But Seriously R****** Has A Better Catalog Of Meaningful Songs Than Beyonce!”
^Girl bye. Every last one of Beyonce’s songs in some way, shape or form are talking about female empowerment. While I agree that ‘Rated R’ was Rihanna’s best and most meaningful catalog of work because it was so vulnerable, i can’t see how any of her other songs, with the exception of her ‘Irreplaceable’ inspired song “Take a bow”, are meaningful.
Beyonce music lets women know that they can do whatever they set their mind to and encourages them not to settle for anything less then greatness- almost all of her songs share that theme.
Rihanna’s ,on the other hand, encourages people to have s**, party, and love- which isn’t necessarily bad, but is in noway shape or form meaningful.
Well, well well the so called King having to use Rih as a reference.
4 was not rated Rated R. Rated R came off the bacl of a world breaking incident. Beyonce has not had that. Rated R had the hair and image to match. Beyonce stll was fat with blonde wig.
CASE CLOSed. LOL LOL LOL LOL BEYONCE IS REALLY STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH RIHANNA.
Dream needs to STFU and Bey should stop working with him. Why would he say such foolishness? Let’s get one thing straight, Rihanna can’t sing. I repeat, Rihanna can’t sing. Rihanna doesn’t have soul, Rihanna doesn’t have pure emotion, Rihanna can’t even help write her lyrics or come up with a melody, Rihanna can’t even help produce. Queen Bey on the other hand does all of those things and does it well. 4 was not a flop. You want to know why? It’s because it was mostly an R&B ALBUM!!!!! What R&B album do you know sold more than 2 million? Bey’s 4 sold over 3 million worldwide. That’s pretty damn good for no hits and her having a baby. Plus, Bey should never be compared to such retarded trash. Rihanna will always be known for being an immature, ghetto hoodrat who took her abuser back.
4 did not sell ove r3 million. You know damm well it has not outssold any recent Rih album. 4 sold 2.1 WW. 1.3 came from the USA and only 800k came from WW.
R R sold 3.5
Loud sold over 5
TTT is on 3.5 as of last month
UNA is 2. 5.
Rih’s last 5 albums have outsold beyonce Most recent. DEAL
Fire Bomb>>>>>>>Beyonce’s entire catalog of music
Rihanna’s Rated R has a higher metacritic score than ANY of Beyonce’s albums….there’s your critical acclaim right there!
Rated R sold 1+ Million in the US..and 3+ Million WW in 1 year
4 sold 1+ Million in the US in 6 months…and 2.3 Million WW in 2 years
4’s first single- A Typical Beyonce song (Run The World)- Flopped
Rated R’s first single- Completely different for Rih (Russian Roulette)- Top 10(#9)
Rated R might have been more of a commercial success… which isn’t saying a lot since it was just as much of a “flop” as 4 LMFAO. But I still liked 4 more, the vocals on that album were amazing and really made me respect Beyonce’s artistry as a whole. Plus, its a critically acclaimed, number # 1, platinum, grammy award winning album… I can’t say the same for Rated R lololol. At the end of the day, both ladies are beautiful and have some pretty good songs, but I’ll always have more respect for Beyonce… Flop or not lol, the woman has raw talent. That’s all that I really care about(:
@MY FOREHEAD THO
Ok Then What Meaningful Songs Does Beyonce Have Beside “HALO & IRREPLACEABLE”?
R****** Has: “FB, TLS, RR, SIL, DOL, LWTMM, CRY, CCL, TAB…”
I remember when MC fans blamed him for Memoirs fail (he was the executive producer ) he tweeted somethin like ” im movin on with Younger and better artists” talkin about Ciara…. then he f’d up her album as well. I dont know whats the deal with him , seriously.
@PRINCE MACHIAVEL
“Me My Self and I”
“Irreplaceble”
“Get Me Bodied”
“Listen”
“Upgrade U”
“Halo”
“If I Were a Boy”
“Single Ladies”
“Best Thing I Never Had”
“Love on Top”
“One Plus One”
“Run the World (Girls)”
“Why Don’t You Love Me”
^And these are only her singles.
Beyonce doesn’t have great music coming from a female who heard all of her songs if anything her better songs came from destiny’s child after dangerously in love she has fallen off musically if you think get me bodied Kitty Kat diva ego video phone or countdown is anything legendary you need too have several her Sasha fierce album was poorly acclaimed and 4 was a vocally talented album not anything groundbreaking there’s more to music than just techniques makes some groundbreaking lyrics for once in your life make some mature music that caters to middle aged people those are the type that actually buys albums
Both are their best albums and my favorite by them. I will say this, RR have 2 top tens and s #1 hit, while 4 is be a timeless album that I think will cross to the next few decades.
Loooooooooool @ the gworlz deflatin 4’s numbers.
4 sold 2.8 mill in half d time RR took to sell 3 mill, so ofcourse they not on d same level.
The Dream didn’t compare their sounds, he compared the way the general public received their albums! People were thrown off when they heard 4, and the same for Rated R. I don’t understand why theres always a stan war going on when TGJ talks about Rihanna, or Beyonce. Rihanna is a talented gal with lots of success, but Its clear that Beyonce is more established, the better singer, and a better performer. This can be proven by her Superbowl performance a couple weeks ago. I love Rihanna but Beyonce is so ahead of her, its kinda incomparable.
@TEACHER
I feel sorry for you because you got no receipts to the numbers you’re giving.
Until you give us the #RECEIPTS, ‘4’ remains unbothered with 1.5 million sold outside the states!!!
Blah. Baddie Bey has more years than Rihanna but it didn’t take long for Rihanna to snatch that lace front. Rated R had top 10 hits and sold 3.5 million copies. Rated R was a bigger success than 4lop plus rated R had better songs. Compare it AGLM, well even AGLM did better than 4lop. Lets compare it to MOTS because I don’t know wjhat 4lop has done.
Rated R is an album I play today. It’s fresh and the music is far better than 4. Actually to compare those two are insulting.
Beyonce can sing, but she does not feel what she is signing or it’s not believable. Rihanna may not have the best vocal abilities, but you can tell that’s it is her in her music whether you like it or not.
@Watersports, you are a idiot. I just laugh. How you compare a 15 year career Beyonce to 7 year career Rihanna and say Beyonce is slaying. You should only compare, Beyonce solo career, not her career off the backs of Kelly and Michelle.
@morefor tho, You talking about Beyonce album being quality not like Rihanna, but didn’t Adele have a quality album that made millions and top the chart. So your excuse for Beyonce not having a top 10 was her was quality, very funny.
Imagine if Rihanna had the platform and promotion, that Beyonce have, how do you think she would be selling now. She is already outselling Beyonce, with all the negative about her relatiohship. Beyonce promoting on every big stage in America and on cable to tv, lets see with all this promotion does. You can’t name one big celebrity, Adele, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, who has had this type of promotion that Beyonce has had. She better come out like a King, and not a peasant.
Um…no. Rated R has amazing, dark, interesting, innovative and complex songs. “4” is just Beyonce telling The-Dream to write 90’s style and Michael Jackson inspired R&B.
never mind this superficial b******… we all know beyonce is a legend and rihanna is a delusional diva-wannabe
Rihanna released “unapologetic” on christmas shopping season, but how could it slipped down the charts on its 2nd week??? WELL YOU SEE, THE NAVI IS SHALLOW AND GOLD DIGGERS…
BEYONCE IS ALWAYS BE BEYONCE .. AND THESE HATERS ARE THE REMINDER THAT SHE IS THE QUEEN AND IS ABOVE EVERYBODY ELSE
PS… RIHANNA WORKS FOR ROC NATION, BEY AND JAY OWNS IT… SO RIH WORKS FOR BEY
Rated R as far the the Tone,Lyrics and sales >>>>>>> Beyonce’s 4
The thing about Rihanna is that we know he mistakes and incidents, which make her human, Beyonce said herself that she is a perfectionist, which doesn’t make me interested in anything about her. And preferably, her music sucks IMO <3 Rihanna!!!
The usual reaching with the navy. Anyway Beyonce doesn’t need/get validation from shallow stans who are beyond deluded. Celebrities all over the world praise her for her work…
Rated R>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4
Enough said!