One has stunned audiences with soaring vocal displays for nearly half a century while the other began rendering electrifying performances before she could even ride a bike. Both have amassed industry acclaim over their illustrious careers (including Grammys) and influenced generations of entertainers after them.
Yet, while the titles ‘diva,’ ‘icon,’ ‘trailblazer,’ and many more labels of praise have been cast the direction of Queen of Funk Chaka Khan and pop queen Janet Jackson many times over the years,’inductee into the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame’ – once again – eludes their grasps.
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Among the nominees eligible for entry into the exclusive club, the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame officially announced its list of inductees yesterday:
Needless to say, fans of both songstress’s were not pleased with the news. For Khan, whose first solo album dropped in 1978 (years after her work with Rufus), her eligibility (technically) began as early as the mid-90s. Jackson, on the other hand, has been eligible since 2007.
Their names are added to the many R&B divas who have found themselves overlooked by the committee including Whitney Houston, Sade, Mariah Carey (as of last year), and many more.
Madonna must have paid her way (with vagiina) to be in the Hall of Fame.
Madonna is the most successful female artist of all time.
And the most successful solo touring artist of all time.
And? When she didn’t do nothing
Madonna and Pop are synonymous, please try again.
I already listen to Aaliyah Try Again plenty of times thank u very much the b**** didn’t do s*** like Janet especially in rock do be inducted in her eligible year that b**** career not close to Janet all she is is tours and albums career Janet always wins.
Billboard ranks Janet as the 7th most successful artist of all-time, while also being the #1 most successful black female artist of all-time. http://www.billboard.com/charts/greatest-hot-100-artists
It’s ironic the R&R HOF over looks her. She’s had a #1 rock song, been nominated for rock Grammy awards for “Black Cat”. Madonna doesn’t have a hard-rock song like “Black Cat” nor has she been nominated for a Rock Grammy but still got in. So the not rock enough excuse isn’t good enough.
What a shame. The struggle of a black woman.
Janet won MTV’s First ICON Award, BET’s First Icon Awards, VH1’s “Queen of Pop” Award, the only artist ever to be nominated for Grammy’s in Pop, Rock, Dance, R&B and Rap. The first female ever nominated for a Producer of the Year Grammy (1990), 3 albums on Rolling Stone’s 500 Greatest Album’s of All-Time List, 3 albums on Billboard’s Top 200 Selling Album’s of all time lists (2 of which are in the top 100— Only ONE Madonna album made the top 200), Only Barbra and Janet are the ONLY female artists to have #1 albums over the last 4 decades. Janet was ranked the #2 most successful artist of the 90’s by Billboard with just the release of 2 albums and a greatest hits. Her HBO concert specials had nearly double the ratings of Beyonce, Madonna and Michael…. Velvet Rope over 15 million viewers alone. http://www.timewarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/1998/10/14/hbo-s-exclusive-live-concert-event-janet-the-velvet-rope
JANET is underrated.
I forgot to add Janet is also an Oscar nominated songwriter. Is Madonna? No. I don’t know why people look at Janet’s achievements as less than Madonna’s when a lot of them are larger than Madonna’s. If Janet was white, she’d be in already.
Janet is also #1 inspired YouTube to be created
#2 the most search artist twice
#3 BMG best selling artist
#4 She’s the 3rd most awarded artist in history after Michael and Whitney and even have her own museum
#5 first female to debut a #1 album in the sounds can era
#6 she’s VH1 Queen Of Pop
#7 BET Ultimate Icon
#8 hold the record of fastest sold out tour which is Rhythm Nation and holds the record of successful debut tour
#9 only female to have a most viewable tour which is The Velvet Rope Tour
#10 MTV 1st Icon and only Queen Of Radio
#11 first female to have 5 back to back #1 albums consecutively on billboard 200
#12 first female to have 6 #1 albums on billboard 200
#13 Billboards 2nd best act of the decade in the 90’s with Mariah Carey
#14 Together Again best selling single 6 million copies sold
#15 by billboard best selling artist
I CAN WRITE BOOKS OF ALL JANET JACKSON ACHIEVEMENTS AND HISTORY MAKING.
Janet is not even in the top 100 most successful artists of all time. She is highly overrated by her few stans lol. Rihanna beyonce even katy perry have all outsold janet wackson
Shut the f*** up Mafaggot stan
The Rock Hall is b*******. They clearly do not respect R&B artists, especially the women. Even white rock artists are starting to lose respect for the Rock hall.
If Chaka Khan’s first solo album came out in 1978, then she wasn’t been eligible until 2003.
reading is fundamental children. clearly the parenthesis says years AFTER her work with Rufus. Meaning, at latest, her first eligibility would’ve come in 2003. at earliest, probably like 95-98
Reading IS fundamental, because the article isn’t making an argument for Khan’s inclusion into the RRHOF via Rufus, but rather her alone, which couldn’t have happened before 2003.
they prolly don’t care honestly.
Janet is the most overrated “artist” ever! Came off he back of her brother! Songs aren’t memorable she just had good choreography! That’s the truth! Boring vocalist too
Stupid ass of course her songs memorable know your artists
Where is her Like a prayer and Vogue? Oh that’s right no where! Kids nowa days know Madonna songs nobody knows Janet’s unless you were in that era!
Rhythm Nation has an impact more then any trash Madonna song there is of course her music memorable know your artists Rhythm Nation shits on all your fave discography
Janet’s vocal are similar to her brother nuff said and that tone and melody and harmony are on another level mix with emotion
Janet is not rock & roll material.
She’s just known as Michaels little sister now
R***** of course she stupid clearly you on here for know reason when Janet have a rock song on all her albums and Black Cat was a #1 rock song stupid ass know your artist
As upsetting as the snub might be, I am happy to see that Tupac is on the list.
You’re right, seeing Tupac on the list and being inducted on his FIRST year of eligibility is indeed fascinating. Especially since it comes on the heels of last year’s first time eligible inductees NWA. Both well respected hip hop giants and quite deserving of the accolade, but still, on their very first shot? NWA and Tupac both arrived long after Janet and Chakra became established R&B icons. It speaks volumes that for a second year in a row Janet’s induction has been snubbed in favor of gangster (male) hip hop acts that FOLLOWED her. There is an undercurrent of sexism at play here Sam, no question.
Agreed.
Well they don’t pay for their accolades like others do. They earn them! *ahem Beyonce and Gaga*
Well seeing how Journey and Pearl Jam just got in I’m not surprised. Janet can wait another 5 years but Chaka is overdue imo.
Janet Jackson should of been in hating A s s B I t c h
Not even a Janet hater but her legacy and impact is largely limited to her genre of music and community. Idk why her stans compare her to Madonna when Madge transcended all communities and genres of music.
So did Janet you can’t even erase what history Janet made and impact she got legendary albums there is in her bag she’s already legendary and Madonna career her career sure hell not better then Janet there is.
I’m tired of every year people whining about Janet’s exclusion from this. Get over it. For as long as people complain, I hope she remains shut out. Only after people stop bemoaning it should they consider nominating her.
Then leave simple
Beyonce and rihanna will be inducted before Janet
Students can’t above the teachers
I don’t know why this is so important to Janet fans, they say that they don’t care, then proceeds to list her achievements, compare hers with that of/and insult Madonna. I mean, it’s not her fault if Janet is overlooked by the committee, to be honest they’re not even in the same league, Madonna is a cultural icon, similar to figures like Elvis, The Beatles, Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson, Janet is not on that league, yes, she is influential and has contributed a lot to Pop music but she’s not on Madonna’s level.
Yeah your comment is totally wrong and spoken clearly from an Anglo white persons standpoint. Janet is a cultural icon and pioneer for sure. For dance culture… for black culture…for pop culture.. for fashion culture… Are you kidding me? Just for the simple fact that she can go away from public eye for 8 years come back fully clothed and gimmickless and have a #1 album and go on a world tour over 30 years after her debut and have current and past icons/stars/socialites in attendance/tweeting about it like Beyoncé, Missy Elliot, Britney to name a few, negates your delusion. Not to mention the plethora of acts who are currently on the charts who s*** Janet and have tributed her in various formats… you must live in like Wisconsin or Rochester or something. Get a grip
Stan janet***^^
There lies the problem though; Janet is an icon to the black community but in the realm of music and music only, she is not on the level of Madonna, Elvis, or her brother. MJ wasn’t just a black icon, he was a music icon. Im not knocking her impact but her impact is arguably limited to black culture and R&B. Its the same argument for Selena: culture icon, success, impact but mainly limited to her genre and community.
A cultural icon she’s not, when a non-American think of Americans icons, they think of Coca Cola, James Dean, Marilyn, Elvis, Michael and Madonna, Janet is not on that level, period.
@That Rihanna Reign
Thank you.
@s****** you mean when white people think of American white icons… you names “American icons” and named white folks. Like seriously.. no, no and no.
Madonna couldn’t even get a #1 in the 90’s. Stop. and how many did she release? Like 6?
No1 singles? Vogue. Take a bow. This Used to be my playground.
No1 albums? Perhaps not, but the Immaculate Collection went to No2 and is one of the greatest selling albums of ALL time. The greatest selling by a woman, for sure.
Then with Ray of Light she had the highest selling debut week by a female EVER. The reason it didn’t hit No1 was because of the Titanic soundtrack which is, again, one of the highest selling albums of all time. RoL has sold nearly 20 million copies.
Additionally, RoL is also one of the most critically acclaimed albums of all time.
In the 90s Madonna sold approximately 90 million albums. I.e more than Adele and Beyoncé combined.
Yes, she was successful in the 90s..
And if you judge success on number 1 albums, then since the 90s she’s had five. Joint most for any female, in fact, for the 00s, along with Britney and Beyoncé.
Exactly it took 11 years for mafossil to get a #1 album she sure hell couldn’t compete with Janet Whitney and Mariah in the 90’s
@RihannaDelusionalReign: so Britney Spears, pink, Kelly Clarkson, Justin Timberlake(to name a select few) are black culture? All the people in attendance at Janet’s various tours, even the ones in Europe and Asia were primarily black and of black culture? Janet only made “black Music and was successful on the black charts? MTV icon was specifically to salute success’. In black music?… the academy awards are black culture? Lol. Wrong. And s****** naming all white artists in his “cultural icons” speech except MJ, clearly supports my point. From a man Anglo white persons perspective that is fact… but in the full perspective of reality it is not.
At what point did I say Janet only made black music and appealed to black people? Janet was successful across the board but a large part of her impact is only within her community. All those artist you mentioned took influence from her due to her impact on the genre. What country artist do you hear citing Janet as an influence? What rock artists? Actresses? Atheletes? Authors? That is my point. Madonna is not a legend by “white standards” or by “pop standards”. She is simply a legend, influence in all aspects of art and culture. You cant seriously argue that they’ve reached the same levels of influenc.
Excuse me Madonna not in the same boat as Janet her name everywhere always in somebody’s mouth always trending everytime she do a tweet and she’s most influential not Madonna cause nobody copy her career except 1 person if her ass can be in so can Janet for obvious reasons.
Lol this is all sorts of delusional. I can’t name one pop star who doesn’t cite Madonna as an influence and hasn’t ripped from her playbook. Madonna wrote the guidebook on how to be a modern popstar. Women outside of pop recognize this and draw inspiration from her.
Madonna not influential at all every damn artist copies Janet Damita Jo Jackson blueprint Madonna laid s*** down I’ve been a fan since birth of Janet Jackson and I see influence of Janet in these artist yeah they name check Madonna as an influence but all of them don’t even live up to what they said of Madonna besides her only copycat even that one copy Janet she laid the foundation down not Madonna you can’t tell me who’s influential between the two calling Madonna most influential is a glorified joke.
I mean what do you expect from a bunch of old white folks. All major black soul/r&b/pop legends are shut out. ‘No Patti , no Chaka, no Janet, no Mariah, no Whitney… whatever, not a big deal.
Exactly.
S****** Blonde is certainly entitled to his/her opinion on cultural relevancy but please stop thinking his personal opinion is somehow representative of the entire general population. Men lie, women lie…numbers don’t! Folks need to stop projecting their own bias on Janet and discrediting her success. Rock Hall of Fame and S****** Blonde included.
Furthermore, That Rihanna Reign is also under the impression that a cultural icon must be acknowledged as such by most white ppl in order to be recognized as such. That is fundamental and systemic racist brainwashing folks.
Please stop with your liberal elitist SJW rhetoric lol. Why do you assume that cultural icons must be accepted by white people to be recognized? At what point did I say that white=universal? Its not a hard concept to grasp, but an icon from one community is not the same as an icon that transcends multiple communities and genres of music. Please get off your high horse and stop getting butthurt over a polar opinion.
“but an icon from one community is not the same as an icon that transcends multiple communities and genres of music.”
You just re- established my point entirely. Who is to say Madonna is a cultural icon in the black community. A straight person could argue Madonna is only culturally relevant in the gay community but Nirvana or Coldplay, for example, are worldwide rock icons, thereby giving them a much wider impact. My point is, we’re all capable of using whatever stats or figure to help determine the size or measure of a particular icons impact. All I’m suggesting is you reconsider using “communities” or race as a deciding factor in how influential or popular a black icon is compared to a white icon. If that makes me a “liberal elitist SJW”, so be it.
Madonna haven’t done anything rock neither compare to Janet stop with the lies
Why is anyone surprised??? It´s not like the ones inducted aren´t deserving anyway. Their time will come (probably, especially in Janet´s case, I don´t know about Chaka). So just relax.
I love you queen Janet, but Heiffer you SHOULDNT HAVE CANCELLED THE REST OF YOUR TOUR……. bye
I know. She was slaying the stage immensely. Hopefully her postponed announcement is true and not a cancel.
She deserves it more that Oldonna! Oldonna’s only legacy is spreading legs on stage and ecouraging others to use stunts for publicity. She has 0 impact on actual music. Janet is more influential as dancer and her music/singing style can be head on albums by Britney, Ciara, Tinashe, Aaliyah etc. Who tries to sound like Grannydonna?
My queen is busy with her baby, billionaire husband and Unbreakable Diamond Collection. She ain’t bothered.
Janet>>>>Madonna. But in terms of impact and influence, Madonna is leaps and bounds ahead and these arguments are tired.
That’s a big ass lie
INFLUENCES??? WHO
The haters can kiss Janet ass they know about her but the Madonna alleged fans see her as a threat for whatever reason if Janet read this she probably be laughing ?
I won’t lose sleep over it and I doubt these legendary women will either. We all know the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame is mostly a boys club anyway.
WHO GIVES A F ABOUT A WHITE BRED DIXIE OLE BOYS CLUB… ?? ARETHA wouldn’t be in the HOF if she came out in the 1980s
THEY DON’T LIKE
BLACK
WOMEN
2PAC had a career from 1991-1996 ARE U F****** SERIOUS…. F*** THE ROCK N ROLL ALL OF FAME ON BEHALF OF ALL THE ACTS WHO SHOULD BE IN ….
She’s a top recording artist. But 100% of her songs are forgotten. I mean, Marian has a Christmas song, Shania has “You’re still the one’ etc. Even the Cranberries has classic like Zombies.
Stop it. “Nasty” became a huge trending topic and popular meme in 2016 after Trump called HRC “a very nasty woman” at one of the debates. Some 30 years after the song’s initial release. A 30-year-old song once again cited for its ICONIC phrase ‘it’s Janet, Miss Jackson if you’re nasty. Let’s also not forget “What Have You Done For Me Lately” “Rhythm Nation” “That’s The Way Love Goes” “Anytime Anyplace” “Together Again” “All For You” are all still being played somewhere in the world to this very day.
Those songs are not comparable to “I Will Always Love You” or “My Heart Will Go On”. Now go YouTube and sees the number of views of Zombies, Smells Like T*** Spirit and those songs stated above.
The Cranberries, Zombies: 458,000,000
Every Janet Jackson song is a staple dumbass What Have You Done For Me Lately, Nasty, Control, Together Again, That’s The Way Love Goes ❤ and best out of all RHYTHM NATION King B your the biggest Janet Jackson copycat don’t try it.
All Janet songs are FORGOTTEN. Just take a look at youtube views, spotify streams and itunes . She is nowhere to be seen
It’s so weird that people are overlooking the impact that artist like Chaka and Janet have but throwing up Madonna’s name in that mix doesn’t equate. I like Madonna but I love Chaka and I live for and only for Janet and I can’t understand why she isn’t in the RRHOF, it’s mind-blowing to me. Chaka is already in with Rufus which is a big deal but her solo work was and still is pretty impressive. The argument that Janet isn’t Rocking Roll throws me a bit because Janet was one of the first visual artists of the video era to make a culture impact globally. Janet would be one of the first artist of all genres to have a contract signing in the millions (40 million first time and 80 million second time) so that would mean that most knew that she could sell records, sell tours. When people throw in about Madonna and Janet, it’s like apples and oranges. Madonna is white and had white privilege that Janet was not privy too because she was Black but mainly because she was a Jackson. In the 70’s The Jacksons were top bananas but for some reason The Osmonds were always getting corporations to use them and their likeness and TV specials were happening left and right for these alleged wholesome family. Now The Jackson were successful and sold records and tours like no other but couldn’t catch the breaks like The Osmonds caught as far as the other aspect of being in the business.
That would be similar for Janet and Madonna because Madonna was offered contracts with corporation and businesses opportunities where Janet had to go overseas to get those same kind of contracts while she was one of the biggest stars at that time, she didn’t get an offer from a soda company or even make-up or anything of that nature. The United States and their alleged policies when it comes down to Black people is Blacks don’t sell products. We don’t make good spokespeople for different daily products that we do buy and actually use.
It’s a known fact in the fashion world if you put a Black woman on a cover of a fashion magazine it doesn’t sell. One of the hottest models of the 90’s and beyond was Naomi Campbell and she could sell and walk like no other and even to this very day but it’s alleged the biggest model of that era and who made the most money was Cindy Crawford. She had contracts with makeup, corporations like Pepsi and other big name contracts where Naomi had to be a part of ‘Keep It Moving Productions’ and work constantly to earn half of what her white counterparts were getting and making. She got offered contracts but half or even half of half of what others were getting.
From the beginning of time Black culture has been throw in many big business plans but until recently you wouldn’t see a Black person selling products.
Madonna followed Elvis P (RIP) creed and ideal of thinking because Elvis was a fan of Black artists (especially Blues and Gospel) and he loved the ‘trucker style’ (blazers jackets and greasy hair) and used that towards his advantage because when most Black people saw Elvis on the first time they thought he was trying to act and sound Black.
A few people thought the same of Madonna but no one saw her just yet but they knew she was trying to sound Black, especially on songs like ‘Borderline’ and ‘Celebrate’ and she used that to her advantage first starting off in the business.
Pepsi gave Madonna a fairly decent contract and this big video reveal and she made Jesus Black and that caused a stir which Madonna loved to do is cause a commotion, which is one of her songs ‘Causing a commotion’, which she sounds Black on again.
Janet has been working in the entertainment business since she was 7 years old and Janet is among 2 other artists in history (Streisand and Springsteen) to have number albums in the last 4 decades.
‘Lets Wait Awhile’, ‘Pleasure Principal’, ‘Escapade’ ‘Got Till It’s Gone’ and this list can go on and on are just a few songs to throw in a catalog of great music and Janet got some B-sides too. Janet has a nomination for Best Rock Song at the Grammys and if you look at the list of women that have been nominated there is only one other Black female and that is the Queen of Rock and Roll Tina Turner, who holds the record for best Rock vocals.
Janet didn’t win ‘Black Velvet’ singer Alana Miles would win (great song) but she got a nod and sometimes even being recognized is a good deal.
Janet incorporated a rock song on every album/project and on her latest ‘Unbreakable’ she even got a country song on there and Janet is living and showing her growth but no one wants to see that in her they want to keep on putting her down. Janet plays instruments, writes and arranges most of the songs in her catalog and even sings background on most of her projects. First MTV Icon award winner and this is over MJ (RIP) her big bro and even Madonna who people love to pin these two up against one another. I don’t think Janet doesn’t dislike Madonna but Janet saw Madonna coming after her brother when he was nice and invited her scandalous ass to the Oscars as his date. Madonna was publicly trying to get Michael to come out as gay and Michael wasn’t gay but Madonna was trying to make some commotion with Michael being her victim. Janet thought that was grimy and the rest is how their public rivalry started but they have never met which most don’t know.
The year that Donna Summer was inducted she died and it was such a bittersweet moment because she was nominated before and many threw a fit about her being nominated too because she was an alleged disco artist but disco had so much rock elements and Donna (RIP) could blew half of the alleged rock and rollers away. ‘Hot Stuff’ is a rock song if I ever heard one.
I heard one guy talk about ‘Black Cat’ being a real weak rock song but the video which Wayne Isham directed and is known for doing many big rock artist video of 90’s was really impressed with Janet. Wayne found out what most didn’t know that Janet wrote everything from baseline, guitar riffs and all the lyrics.
If Janet gets in the RRHOF I really do hope she declines the nomination since they put her through the ringer for nothing. I know the group CHIC has been nominated 11 times and it’s just sad to know that no one’s music is more full of rock and roll than CHIC and because they got lumped into being considered disco which I don’t think they didn’t mind at the time but that would change. What happen is when the big disco fallout (Disco Sucks) and black-balled of disco artists would take place many artists got overlooked and their projects shelved.
All because disco music infused R&B, rock, jazz and blues along with country and classical but the follow was mainly people of color and gays.
America hasn’t forgave Janet for Justin T., who probably will get voted in before Janet exposed her breast and America had a fit and haven’t forgave Janet since. Madonna made a crude comment about Janet’s performance when she was headlining the Superbowl and everyone is under this impression that Madonna is all angelic. She is an opportunist and she doesn’t have too much class but she is white and I guess the old saying ‘Blacks get back!’ means something even in 2017.
Nice