With a career spanning over 25 years, Mariah Carey has enjoyed success in the 90’s, 00’s, and the current 10’s.
During the later timeframe, it’s industry icon L.A Reid who shepherded the songbird to new heights – most notably with 2005’s ‘The Emancipation of Mimi’ and follow-up ‘E=MC2.’ Both of which spurned a number of hits for the diva.
Having fallen on tricky terrain once again though, Carey re-teamed with Reid over at Epic Records earlier this year with a view to revive her career fortunes.
And while it’s clear an all-out approach is being taken to the Resuscitation of Mimi (as evidenced by the push for her Las Vegas residency and new greatest hits collection ‘#1 To Infinity’), Reid’s comments on her comeback will certainly set tongues wagging.
See why below…
During a recent interview with Billboard, the renown industry exec offered the following when quizzed on the commercial goal for Mariah’s new single ‘Infinity’:
You signed Carey to IDJ and now Epic. Six years since her last top 10 song, what do you expect from her new single, “Infinity”?
Mariah Carey made her first hit record in 1991. To even be on the radio at this point in her career is a huge accomplishment, because radio doesn’t cater to veteran artists or legends. Radio caters to in-the-moment stars. … Nobody that put out records 25 years ago is going to have a No. 1. Not Paul, Stevie, Bruce, Mick or Keith. Not Prince, not anyone. So if she can get on the radio, we’ve done damn good. Would we like to have a No. 1? F– yeah, I’m greedy. But it’s not realistic.
Some may scoff, but there is statistical evidence to support his claims. It’s not fair that the industry is orientated this way, but – at present – it’s simply “the way” things are.
From where we’re standing, the best move at the moment would be to really push Mariah as an album act. Because if there’s one thing the artists he mentioned are doing, it’s selling albums. They cater to an audience that actually earn funds enough to drop $10.00 on an LP from an artist they like, an artist they’ve have a history of investing in.
And, thankfully, it appears that’s Reid’s line of thinking with Mimi this go round. He added:
Will you put her back in the studio?
Absolutely, but I don’t believe in asking artists to go back and be who they once were. I like concept records, I like the idea of thematic, storytelling records. I love duets and the Great American Songbook. I think a great vocalist should un-cage themselves and think about things like that sometimes. I mean, Frank Sinatra did it. It’s fun to sing songs you love. And let’s not forget that one of Mariah’s biggest hits, “I’ll Be There,” was a cover. There are many things that Mariah can still do.
In a way, do you have to position Carey as a new artist?
No. I’m not under any illusion that Mariah should compete with, say, Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande. Our job is to make sure the quality is there. Every artist is one great song away from massive success.
Now, of course, he and Mariah’s new management team, have their work cut out for them. Because, after years of posing and pouting in provocative outfits while trying to compete with today’s Pop pretenders, she’s pushed some of her core audience away.
Ultimately, she’ll need to hatch a plan to re-entice them back. Vegas feels like a smart initial move, but we’re keen to see where she drives to next musically.
For yours truly, it’d be awesome to see her drop an album populated with songs such as ‘Mine Again,’ ‘Circles,’ ‘For The Record,’ ‘Faded,’ and ‘Camouflage.’ Quality mid-tempo ballads that are sonically cohesive.
Why not forget singles (somewhat) and embrace the Prince model of dropping albums in innovative ways? Perhaps team with an unconventional promotion partner ala Starbucks (as John Legend has done in the past) to place her music in front of the masses in a unique way?
Success comes in many flavours, as such it’ll be great for Mariah to try something different. Scratch that, she has to try something different. Because, no matter how loud her supporters scream that she “has nothing left to prove,” we’d bet those at her label feel otherwise. The music industry is a business, hence anytime money is spent (as it was on her lucrative new deal) it’s done so with a view of making an eventual profit. Viewed this way, she has everything to prove and so does Mr. Reid.
Whatever the case, Mimi needs to march to a new beat. Here’s hoping L.A and her new instructors help her find it.
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I agree radio doesn’t cater to the vets .
Mariah Carey is scared: she’s scared to let go on stage, scared to sing her ass off, scared to perform, scared to stem away from her ‘look at me videos’ GIRL BYE. I use to be a fan but her fake crap turned me away
I actually agree with LA on this!!
Posts like this remind me why I have been visiting this site since 2009.
Sam is a shady b**** but he and his team know their stuff. The Lambs should @ this article to her and her team because this is EXACTLY what she should do. I remember hearing that John legend WAKE UP song in Starbucks every day that summer.
The article is on point. I would love to see her create her own label/management company and develope new talent. think that would be great as well.
He is right but Mariah can do whatever she wants at this point. Side Note: If you’re gonna have the nerve to attack children on other posts at least have the nerve to reveal your idenity and not use other peoples names. #TrollsAreCowards
Oh the irony. ???? ???? ????
…Of you replying. Feeling guilty?
Tyler please. I can’t believe you’re defending your troll account that you created and dedicate ONLY to Rihanna. Lol. Bless you’re heart. You are absolutely right btw… #TrollsAreCowards ????
Yawn. Receipts or get out ‘Hives Scared of R8’ / BritneyRaeCarey
And Rihanna doesn’t own my life like Beyonce owns yours baby. I know thats hard to get but I come to this site first and foremost as a music fan and Beyonce stan not somebodys hater like you with that avi 😀
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Tyler is so mad. Which is worse: me having avatars of Beyonce or you literally dedicating and creating troll accounts, including gravatar accounts, to troll in Rihanna posts and troll under my name? “My Forehead tho” “I STAN(D) IN LINE FOR HYDROQUINONE” …Do they ring any bell? Lol. Yeah… I know…
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Wtf are you rambling on about? Im mad yet you raced into my reply box talking absolute nonsense plucked out of your a*** hairs. How did you come to the conclusion that is me? LOL. I must you so pressed. Again. Receipts or exit to the left *Does Beyonce finger point*>>>>
Let’s not forget “I STAN(D) FOR FLOPS”. What happened to them, those names? ???? *sigh* …those were the days. ????
*Files nails* Still waiting for receipts.
Yep… #TrollsAreCowards
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That’s the smartest thing you’ve ever said.
Still waiting. *Sips Tea*
Why do y’all/people single out MC? I swear, she’s become a punching bag. Name 1 artist from her generation still gaining top 10 hits & selling millions of albums WW. NONE OF HER PEERS ARE SELLING NOR CHARTING TODAY, PERIOD! Mary J, R Kelly, Faith Evans, Boys To Men etc… Are all FLOPS today. None, have had hits in YEARS. Which is why they gotta tour so much. Mariah on the other hand was lucky enough to sell 200,000,000+ records & can live off of a back catalog of hits (which she OWNS the credits too & gains MILLIONS every year from that X-Mas song).
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Honestly, I want Mariah to stop trying to compete with the Rihanna’s/Beyonce’s… And, just release music & do HER. Don’t give a F’k about chartings etc… Just do music & work with different producers please…. Enough of the trying to recreate “We Belong Together”.
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She gained 18 #1 hits & 13 MULTI-Platinum selling albums (while 2 of those being certified DIAMOND). She’s done, as a “prime” artist. Its time to just relax & release music with no hopes of top ten this… or #1 that. LET THAT GO. Radio don’t even play CELINE DION (whom can still sing) or MADONNA (Legendary Queen Of Pop) & their BIGGER than Mariah.
So, Lambs needs to let that gooooooo…. Love You MC!
Finally! SOMEbody else is tired of getting a ‘We Belong Together” remix/reprise on every album since TEOM. I agree 100%. Let JD go. Let all these new producers and gimmicks go and find some unknown hungry producers and just write good music and sing. Release one single that’s representative of the album and call it a day. Her real fans don’t need 20 videos and singles. Just a hot album.
I agree with this statement you made 100%. i am die hard lambily but I believe MIMI needs to do exactly as you said 25yrs in the game & still doing the damn thing. God Bless her.
I’m not disagreeing or agreeing with what you said but R. Kelly is still consistent, he always reaches the top on the album charts and always has at least one top ten on the r&b charts and he always sell over 200k idk about the last album tho
Not just “The Lambtards” but Mariah herself needs to stop competing with these kids. She is stuck in the past and her insecurity had not allowed her to grow as an artist.
thank u
L.A Reid On Beyonce’s Chance Of Another #1 Single: “Are you serious? You’re kidding me right?”
*breaks into a fury of laughter*
“Okay, that’s enough. *Chuckles* I must say, I haven’t laughed like that in years. This interview is over. We’re done here. Stacey, tell Michael to bring the car around.”
*Wipes tears off with a tissue*
I’m not being funny but was this seriously quoted? And what does he mean? Do he think so or not?
Why does Beyonce have your life so bothered that you have to bring her up in every post that has nothing to do with her? I’m
Assuming cuz R8 is nowhere in sight and so you have nothing to live for at this point so
You’re simply with with your irrelevant il existence. Basic b****.
Actually, it’s very honest and good interview so as surprisingly how Sam writes this.
Mariah needs to be more creative in terms of concept to overcome the way of the industry today, though she is already above anyone in the industry in terms of song writing and producing skills. I don’t think Mariah can get huge hit if she stick with her comfortable melodic song like always be my baby or infinity. But I do believe this woman is capable of doing that, given how she have changed and shaped the music industry and mainstream music. This is a common issue for Madonna and Janet. Madonna simply complained by saying “ageism” and have no sign to overcome. Let’s see how Mariah and Janet deal with these challenges. If they cannot, Beyoncé cannot overcome the same problem when she face in 5 years, given she doesn’t produce nor write songs.
I believe in them.
Having a #1 song is pretty much a silly expectation for veteran artists. The odds are against them and I personally think the Hot 100 chart is way too controlled these days for them to win. It’s not set up for certain artists to succeed that way anymore. The focus for legends should be definitely be on producing a great body of work! I think that earning a #1 album is more likely for these type of artists and it’s a bigger honor for them (especially at this stage of the game).
Cher took ‘Believe’ to number 1 in every major chart. How old was she then? So, no exec should hide behind age and vet status. Reid, hire hitmakers for Mariah! I think she’s too arrogant to compose objectively anymore.
That was back in the 1990s when OLD artist was still successful on RADIO. The 90s are over. Those were the GOLDEN years. AErosmith, Metallica etc… Were all old artist STILL gaining hits in the 1990s. Those days are GONE. Cher would NEVER gain a #1 hit NOWADAYS
Yes Stephy. Yes.
It’s not excuses it factual. The way the charts are set up its hard to even chart, especially since they added streaming, youtube views, and payola too from the radio stations!
Good interview but it’s called making change happen. A number one is possible. If someone took the opportunity to have her played on radio it’s a good song.
Mariah is a legend so what the hell. This girl is beautiful and she is talented.Aside from Whitney Marian s*** on ur fav.I love Mimi and I will admit I have more Mimi albums than all my other faves
Where is Del Rey tho. Anyway that BeyRihliyah mess is gonna get dragged when I catch the bird.Get ready for the sequal drag
*Del Bey
I think she has one more in her.
No shade? Really? Congrats.
It’ll have to be the right song. It may be this year, it’s something about the 5th year of the decade when MC makes the biggest song of that decade.
Damn it must hurt after you were dragged like that.I swear I died,so much that I told Aaliyah to move left so I could join her
You’re not fooling anyone, that comment had one thumb up and it was the fat @ss herself and 2 thumb downs and an avi less comment, that being Evicted herself. A bothered, in your feekings opinion vs facts. MC is fat, she is old, she IS aging like left out milk and voice is GONE.
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but i believe, that miss Piggy, has a bit more than a SCREEEEEEAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM.
Yes Sam, it is as unrealistic as Beyonce ever getting another one 🙂 You pressed queen LOL Only that Bey´s last one was when she wasn´t even 30 and Mariah made it till she was 38.
About the topic in hand: strangest things have happened. She could get one eventually. Look at Cher. She was nowhere in yeas and suddenly got one at 50 or 60 years old in 1998. But yeah I agree this new approach is the right thing to do.
Beyonce is still selling millions of albums and grossing over $200m on tours. You always shade bey when she has been consistently successful for 18 years. Mariah is a fat embarrassing has been get over it!!
You’re an idiot. Beyonce is in her early 30s. And, still very relevant. She’s a performer too (which is the MAIN reason why people are interested in her). Cause, she hasn’t gained a real #1 since 2008. Her LIVE performing skills is keeping her career strong NOT her music.
I don´t like to shade Beyonce. I think her last album is her best. It is always a response to Sam´s shade to someone legendary and musically superior like Mariah.
Well saying it’s not realistic for her to have a no.1 coming out in 91 is a cop out because Mary J just had a number 1 on dance with Right now
The dance charts? Really girl…??? “You’re Mine” went #1 on the dance charts too. It’s still don’t mean crap. Lol
Didn’t Rita Whoa have a #1 on the dance chart? Lol
The Dance Chart?!?.. ????????
Isn’t that what yall teeny boppers listen to now, edm/dance smdh
Don’t entirely agree with LA Reid on this one. Beautiful could have been a Number 1 with more promo. It’s about the songs and not the artist’s age
Mariah would still be moderately successful if she wasn’t so f****** annoying. Plus she can’t sing anymore
Mariah isn’t political correct. You either like her or not. She’s ain’t gon’ kiss no-ones ass. Also, y’all don’t give a F about no damn vocalist. If that was the case why Leona Lewis etc… Flopping??? Y’all don’t even support REAL singers anymore. Celine Dion can still BLOW, but her album didn’t even go GOLD. Thank God for her FRENCH fans, who were the ones that got her album to cross 1,000,000+ mark… Cause y’all sure don’t care. Be real, even if she still could sing… It wouldn’t even matter. Faith, Kelly, Boys To Men, Keke Wyatts, Kelly Price etc ALL can BLOW. Y’all don’t care! BYE
F*** a “hit”. Just keep singing and making good music.
Like someone said above, Mariah shouldn’t care about competing with today’s artist and she shouldn’t. We all know Mariah cares about charting and idc what anyone says and that’s fine. But I think she kind of let that get in the way of her making music. I have never known her to come out with so many anticipated singles to albums that never came out. I know s*** happens but come on now. MC is a arises and Aries (most) are perfectionist. She knows what she’s doing at all times.
This is true and they are also very independent as well.
Right!
Beyonce is a great performer, but even that’s getting dry. Thay 16 mins VMA show was a bore, she’s going to ware herself out and then what? The only show she killed in the past 3 years was the superbowl, grammys was blah, vma was blah, no one tuned in the HBO special. Her fans are still paying the 150% apa on the payday loan they got for the 3 back to back tours. That’s why they were crying over Fooling Myself being on Flopal.
Beyonces still slays her best performances are on Tour, I would expect you to know that since you claim to be a ‘fan’. What does Rihanna slay at besides posing behind a camera lense.
Yeah Mariah doesn’t need another #1 she would be exceptionally lucky if she did
But when will Beyonce? She absolutely needs one… or a lot of them since she has only 5. How iconic!!! ???? ???? ????
She doesn’t need not another one, 5 is a respectable number, plus when you have 20 of musics most prestigious awards and half a billion in the bank, what more could Beyonce possibly need
Betch please. It’s embarrassing. Stop sugarcoatting her failure to garner 10+ #1 hits.
Oh and btw, being worth 400 million doesn’t mean that you have 400 million in the bank. ???? ???? ???? Typical stupid hive.
You know who actually needs one tho? BeyingHonest
I know what your walls need Mark 😉 they need plaster and concrete to reconstruct the mess down there
I agree with L.A. & TGJ. I wouldn’t even dare to think Mimi could get another number one, but a few top 20 & 10 hits would be an amazing feat. This new compilation album won’t even do 150k ww, but I believe with everything in place, that a 1 mil ww album could be produced later this year.
Mariah has >>absolutely nothing to prove, she’s a legend!<< In all honestly, it's disheartening to see her constantly disrespected, she's a massive talent, and she's one of the main reasons our fav's are here doing what they love.
She will never get a #1 ever again. She got those 18 #1s with payola anyways. Janet earned hers without Payola.
Blah Blah Blah… Payola was a form of radio methods that STILL is relevant today. Mariah’s 18 #1’s are mostly REAL hits. Radio receives a list of songs by record companies of artist to play Over & Over & Over again. Its usually an AGE limit added towards that list as-well. Mariah was THE biggest act of the 1990s in America & she was YOUNG. Of-course she would have some of the top air-played songs. Just how like Rihanna, Katy (who’ve been exposed for using Payola by the radio DJ’s), Taylor swift etc.. are dominating radio NOW. Their YOUNG, HOT & have catchy music. Which was the same thing Mariah was back then.
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Janet’s record label had her on Payola role too. She was added towards that list of artist you play OVER & OVER & OVER again. It’s a formula used since the 1950s (Elvis Presley’s record company would pay DISK JOCKEYS off to play his stuff OVER & OVER again).
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Also, Mariah’s radio impressions were HUGE back then. Meaning PEOPLE WERE LISTENING & REQUESTING HER SONGS. Not to mention, she scored PLATINUM & MULTI PLATINUM selling PHYSICAL singles back then. Which was a huge achievement. Selling 500,000+ singles back then could get you a top 5 hit. Now, selling 1,000,000+ PHYSICAL singles back then could get you a #1 for 8 – 16 weeks. One Sweet Day stayed at number for so long due to its massive singles success. Selling almost 3,000,000+ physical singles within 4 months is like selling 7,000,000+ DIGITAL singles in today’s era within 4 months. Fantasy was the second biggest selling single of 95 & Always Be My Baby was the biggest radio impression of 1996. Janet was NEVER big as Mariah in America. But, Rhythm Nation was a monster. Hint: Janet gaining 4 #1’s from that album.
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Payola is an industry practice that’s been happening since FOREVER. And, will CONTINUE to happen. ITS BUSINESS not a TALENT SHOW.
Doesn’t really matter cause Rihanna will have the record soon.
Beyoncé will always be relevant she won the new generation becuz of her performing skills. I think she will start fading away in her late 40s but will be a big touring act. She will take the Madonna route minus the gimmicks that madge put out to be relevant
No chile she is Micheal Jackson/ Tina Turner
People need to seriously keep this in mind without discrediting Mariah. 1. She’s a legend. 2. Paid the way for all your faves ! 3. We’re not living in the golden times of music (70s,80s,90s, early 00s). 4. She’s not in her 20s anymore ! 5. About anyone basic as f*** can top the charts, but that does not prove longevity or relevance if they don’t have a body of work. Like Nicki once said ” you’ll be hot for 1 summer) -> 1 hit wonders. Bey hive (don’t attack) or become offensive, the same thing is happening to Beyonce. Yes DIL, 711 did alright in the top 20 n 10. But the charts aren’t her for Bey like she was in 08. However, her album still went 1 and sold, that there is acompliment well done. All the veterans should on focus on the quality of albums not singles. Again with Mariah, she doesn’t need to compete with the girls of today, she had her competition with Whitney, Madonna, Celine, Janet, Toni, Brandy, and TLC. While a few will still make fun of this, keep in mind the same s*** will happen years later to Rihanna, Katy, Taylor, Ariana, Chris, Trey, Bruno and Lady Gaga So s*** they better enjoy it while they have it now.
Anyways I dislike these woman but let’s be honest Beyoncé doesn’t need anymore #1s she has been relevant for 7 years without a #1 hit, that’s kinda great & with Mariah she really shouldn’t try to compete with Rih, Taylor etc becuz she has done it already she doesn’t even need to sing anymore.
WHAT?
Blah blah blah Mrs. Masonite. I told ZERO lies about your favs careers and zero talent. Your comment had two plus ones… one by your punk ass and the other after your chirped your big bird assistant. Your favs will always be better call girls than artists. I LOVE TO SEE that my drags reside in you. Now your v**** has a neighbor b****. Why you mad?
I will drag you for filth.
Ok, as if Mariah wasn’t Tommy’s mixed breed lap dog. Don’t forget that he was still married when she was effing to get a deal. 🙂 And my fave was a singer/dancer/actress/model. MOOMOO was just a singer and can’t even do that anymore, nor the 23 out of 25 years of her career. Can’t dance to save her dead voice, and had one of the biggest flops in Hollywood history. And could never model unless it’s plus plus size or to demonstrate that Wendy’s uses real cows in their beef.
Don’t forget that Moo Was & will always be Whitney’s Lessor even in the 90s she was always second best.
Whitney Houston knew she had nothing to prove anymore & a did a beautiful spiritual album & you can see she didn’t even care about charts people loved that supported her & it went #1 on BB & now you get Mariah has been singing for over 2 decades but still insecure af & still trying to be s*** & singing these dumb R&B songs like trying to prove something that turns many people off & that is why her recent album was certified grass.
Whitney Houston had NO control over her music. She just sanged whatever Clive gave her. Only on a few instance she pitched in creative control. He wanted her to have a clean / classy image after SHE destroyed it with her crackhead behaviors. That album sold strictly due to it being her “comeback” from her crack era. Whitney’s voice was gone by that point too. She was just doing whatever CLIVE told her to do. And, Mariah released an album in 2008, 2009 & 2010 which are ALL certified. Out of 13 STUDIO albums… Mariah only has 1 to not be certified (and that’s not adding her PLATINUM/Multi Platinum selling compilations/soundtracks). Please sit down.
You better watch it 40 year old fatty. Whitney Houston had little of input in her last album before she died.
Atleast Whitney had a crack incident that ruined her angelic voice. Moo? The b**** after 1998 started sounding like trash even Aretha was dragging her for filth during that special they did with those white girls. Mariah is a STUDIO vocalist.
Oh the irony! Whitney voice was go, but she could still sing her current singles. MooMoo can’t even do THAT! And Moo had no control over her career in the 90s, and when she did she flopped across the board, flash back, the trl meltdown. Virgin records (the same label Janet and Aaliyah was on at that time), dropped her and payed her money to LEAVE the label because her album and film flopped thay badly. Whitney may had been a crackhead, but she was still loved by other women in the bizz, humble and wasn’t insurcure about aging or younger artist because she KNEW she was the voice. MC didn’t do anything Grande isn’t doing now. Yes i said it, but we STILL don’t have another Whitney (no matter how hard Clive and Hudson try to play the part )
Whitney could still sing when she was alive. There are videos to back it up and prove. Also look up her autopsy, the doctors said her vocal chords were perfectly fine!! It was her lungs that were the problem. Had she stop smoking (causing the lack of withstanding control of breathing/holding high notes) she would still had blown the roof off, she just would’ve sounded like the MLIYL era Nippy. She did more justice of her songs off IL2U live than in the studio. I respect her more too cause she didn’t lip sync during that. Like her song ” Try It On My Own” she kept it real. I Wish She made a jazz album tho like Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Nina Simone and Ella Fitzgerald.
Mariah achieved her 18 #1’s being the LEAD artist.
So????
Which means, her achievements are far more impressive than someone just being featured singing the hook of a #1 song. That’s “so” honey.
Rihanna only has 3 #1s being a featured artist and that was two Eminem and a TI song. Lets not act as if she wasn’t the reason those songs went #1, it was TI last #1 (Beyonce’s and MC’s as well in 2008) and Em’s last two #1s were ft Rihanna. Even if you take those away, she’s still at 10 and will still snatch MooMoos record.
Mariah Lambs will get checked fast. I will Gather all these lambs & spell check them real fast.
I come with PROFESSIONAL FACTS, they come with personal insults. Smh…
Yea you better run. Fact, Tommy was married when MooMoo was effing for a deal. Fact, there’s very little LIVE videos of Mariah killing it LIVE singing, and non after 94. Fact, she did have a flop album and movie in 2001. Fact, she’s fat, fact Rihanna has 13 #1s, onky 3 being a FT artist. So show me which fact is personal again?
No ones running from your tired drags dear… You’re a undercover Mariah stan. I know you got all her stuff on your device. Stop playing Marky Mark.
Oh my. Mariah was a home wrecker. I guess Nick dumping her is karma. What goes around comes around as they say… http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcf6cwYksN1rfduvxo1_250.gif
So now a Rojo fan wants to hide behind Nippy? Are you two thots forgetting that I Look To You outsold Rated R? Are you forgetting that R**** is a STUDIO “voice” and that even Whitney in 09 can sing better than her?
She outsold Memory Of An Angel Food Cake and Me. I Am Divorced too. And it went #1, inlike MooMoo last 2 albums, one being outsold by a landslide by Barbara.
Yes just like I Am… Sasha Fierce outsold Raid R. Why are you even trying to shade number one albums when your fav only has one number one album and multiplatinum plaque in her entire career? And Good Goat Gone Thot only did that after being re-released and having a remix edition of the same album. Then the b**** went crazy and started playing Russian Roulette.
Before her death, its sales had been diminishing since the album’s release in July and stood at more than 447,000 copies sold. News of her death was reported on the last day of Nielsen SoundScan’s sales tracking week, during which Aaliyah sold 62,000 copies, a 41.5% increase from its past week’s sales.[71] The following week, it sold 305,500 copies and ascended from number nineteen to number one on the Billboard 200.
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“Only relevant after death”
Yea ok, she didn’t film two music videos, one being the cause of her death. But the facts still stands, she sold more than MooMoo that year and was the best selling R&B alnum that year. (stops you there, AK was a soul album, DC and Janet were pop albums.) #oops.
You see Stephy the Staff infection is dodging my comments like MooMoo dodges her notes LIVE. LAMES are just as petty as the golden cow they worship.
Stay around and wait for the random names, especially “What Now”
Yes sweetheart, they paid Mariah to get off their label. Who paid Ashliyah to crash her plane? Glitter went gold in the same amount of time that the red album went gold. Ashes was two seconds away from being dropped which is why she even went to overdrive, bc she was underperforming just like Glitter. Mimi is so insecure, but yet she was friends with Whitney? Yet she praises/praised Beyoncè, FH, Adele, Britney, Janet, Rihanna, and etc. Why is a Rihanna fan taking about insecurities when Riri is still hiding from that ass whooping from Teyana?
Please, Lover Boy was sold for 89 cents even back then sonit could chart. My fave was busy with her successful film career. MooMoo was flopping because another mixed girl popped off, AK.
‘Ashes’ – OMG LOL
Whitney voice was go, but she could still sing her current singles.
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No, Mark I love Nippy but her voice sounded terrible. Worse than Mariah’s during her last world tour.
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And Moo had no control over her career in the 90s,
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No, Mariah had FULL control over the making over her music. It was her image that had no control/and how the music was released. Cause, they wanted to keep that clean girl image going. So, that’s a half lie.
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MC didn’t do anything Grande isn’t doing now.
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No, Mariah was a Grammy award winning singer/songwriter at Ari’s age. Where’s Ari’s #1’s, Platinum albums & Grammy’s. Where’s her classic music? Where’s her producers credits? Stop lying, Ariana isn’t even half of Mariah. She’s just another lil run-of-the-mill Pop tart. She’s not even a Christina A. Vision Of Love >>> everything that child has recorded thus-far. And, Leona Lewis even had more success (with a better voice & was deemed the next Mariah too) on her debut LP than Grande. Stop lying. She’s nothing like an Old School Mariah.
I don’t think Mariah should chase a #1 hit at this point. She has more than enough and your songs don’t have to be #1 to be considered good songs. If it happens, great. But if it doesn’t, oh well. She should really focus on pushing the whole album instead. Her albums are usually pretty solid. There’s only been two that she’s released so far that I don’t like. She’s not going to be a huge touring force like Janet, Michael or Beyonce because she doesn’t really dance. So pushing the album in an innovative way and making sure her songs are at least in rotation on the radio is pretty much all she can do. I would love to see more collaborations with other female artists in the future. Maybe with someone like Tamar Braxton, or someone similar. She could also write for other artists. She has enough money already but it would be a great way to keep checks coming in if the music isn’t selling.
Glitter became Carey’s least commercially successful album to that point. It debuted at number seven on the Billboard 200 with first-week sales of 116,000 copies, but far from the first-week sales of 323,000 with her previous release, Rainbow in 1999.[39] Glitter became Carey’s lowest peaking album in the United States, with her second album Emotions (1992), coming in at number four.[40] It remained in the album’s chart for only eight weeks, and was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), denoting shipments of 500,000 units; and as it fell from the charts, received platinum certification, denoting shipments of 1 million in the US.[39][41] Large quantities of the album remained unsold in record stores and, as such, record stores have the ability to return unsold product back to the record label -this had no effect on the certification already given, however. As of April 2013, Nielsen SoundScan estimates sales of the Glitter album at 652,000 copies in the United States
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gotta love facts. It outsold Aaliyah? When? Even Aaliyah did 190K the first week that year and was #2. Sit down.
This is so catty mark. You’re comparing Aaliyah’s 3rd album too a SOUNDTRACK. Mariah had already achieved so much album sales by that point babe. Why focus on that. Like, that was her debut album or something. You can’t win a battle against a legend. It’s like when people try their hardest to tare down MJ’s achievements cause he might’ve been a p********. It doesn’t matter. You can’t change the past or come for MONSTER artist like Mariah Michael, Madonna Janet etc… No matter how hard you try.
Who cares that it was a “soundtrack?” It was released under Mariah’s name and brand exclusively and treated like a new album from her. Stans kill me with their excuses and transparent attempts to downplay. That album wasn’t supposed to flop, but it did. It was supposed to expand her career to greater heights and be her own Bodyguard, but it didn’t and wasn’t. Instead it was a colossal embarrassment for all involved and her career has never been quite the same since. Don’t even try to hide behind that “it was just a soundtrack” b*******. It was a flop album – period
Go. IN!
And, I ADMITTED IT BEING A FLOP ALBUM! WHY IS HE COMPARING MARIAH’S 10TH ALBUM TO HER 3rd ALBUM! SO DUMB & IRRELAVENT PERIOD. HE’S ACTING LIKE AALIYAH WOULD’VE NEVER FLOPPED. BYE
She didn’t. 🙂
That’s cause she DIED.
Marky Mark, no ones running from you. I was busy cleaning my kitchen hun. Now, Mariah Carey actually had an offer on the table from Warner Bro’s… But, she decided to go with Tommy.
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Tommy, was the OLDER one. In his book, he said he started the entire romantic fling. Which actually scared Mariah (a 20 YO at the time). He was very controlling & obsessed with her. What was she suppose to be being a starving artist from the streets of NYC. This was the most POWERFUL man in the industry. She had already sign the contract. She had to do what she had to do. That’s life. Everyone isn’t handed everything on a silver platter.
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Mariah achieved a DECADES worth of success BEFORE her flop in 2001. That album & movie was done terribly. And, she was massively OVERWORKED by that point. So, of course she was gonna have a “breakdown” (which I think was blown out of proportion tbh..) And, Miss Aaliyah was only on her 3rd album by that point. She didn’t even live long enough to have her “flop” moments (which every artist suffers from at some point).
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Mark, I know you love Mariah. I can tell by you knowing every detail about her life. I’m surprised you ain’t bring up her prostitute sister yet. And, you know damn well that woman could sang live. Mariah has plenty of performances between 1990 – 1996 where’s she showcasing a 5 octave range. Something Miss Aaliyah or Rihanna could only dreamed of doing. Her voice unfortunately became damaged around 1997 (for whatever reason). But, she still had some decent live performances from time to time.
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You know damn well Mariah was an amazing talent. You’ve studied her far too long to not see how special she was. Like Nippy, we wont ever have another Mariah. Simple as that. She had an amazing run. And, she never claimed to be a model or dancer.
I brought up the sister a few times, MC was the right hooker and effed the right man. I said she IS a legend and the best artist/songwriter of all time. But the lames want to poke holes at others as if MC’s road to success wasa clean walk in the park. You all called Aaliyah a thot, even tho she was 15 and that monster was 28, but you want be to think that lil 20 year old MC was a helpless victim when she was busting it open for a Sony deal in 1990? No. You guys want to say Aaliyah wasn’t that big, yet she was more successful in her last two years than MC was in 2000 and 2001.
Aaliyah was more successful than MJ in 2001. Does that make a difference hun? No, it’s still MJ. Its still MARIAH! Stop comparing Aaliyah too MC. That’s just weird. Mariah was NEVER a prostitute. If you read Tommy’s book. Mariah was a shy & insecure struggling artist from Long Island. She had only had s** with on guy prior to Tommy. She was scared, alone & even homeless at times. But, she hustled her way to a record deal. She just didn’t pop up in Tommy’s office sucked his D & boom scored a deal. No! She worked her ass off to get to that party where Tommy (whom she didn’t even know) meet her. In his book, he didn’t even care about her until her heard her TALENT. He just thought she was some model chick. Which proves her TALENT got her the DEAL not her s**. HE admitted to starting a romance AFTER the success of her debut album. And, then lead to a marriage (HE ADMITTED SHOULD’VE HAPPENED) in 1993. He was obsessed with her. Period. Mariah didn’t really want to be with some old man. But, if she would’ve said No… She was probably scared he would’ve tried to hurt her career, like he tried to do in the late 90s/early 00s. And, like he tried to do with MJ.
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Mariah’s sister was a REAL prostitute on DRUGS. Mariah was NEVER that. Smh..
So TGJ wants to block and moderate my comments now? Ok Sam.
Before her death, its sales had been diminishing since the album’s release in July and stood at more than 447,000 copies sold.[70] News of her death was reported on the last day of Nielsen SoundScan’s sales tracking week, during which Aaliyah sold 62,000 copies, a 41.5% increase from its past week’s sales.[71] The following week, it sold 305,500 copies and ascended from number nineteen to number one on the Billboard 200.[72]
We all know that. Just know those 447K slaes were from one single that wasn’t even a top 40. Again, you missed the part where she was FILMING MOVIES. Still, those were SALES, MooMoo only SHIPPED Bitter soundtrack.
More facts. The exposure on that boy toy and Master P.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVCd9mof48
And I think we should stop calling living legends flops. After you have over 20 years of success in the music industry, especially in the way that Mariah has, you can’t really be considered a flop. Albums and singles underperform all the time but when you have amassed a certain amount of success the F word shouldn’t even be applied anymore.
This coming from LA who told Pink she had to change herself to be successful? Pass, he needs sit down. Father time has no place in 2015. Mariah, do you no matter what. Youvwill get there girl.
Why is Markiesha throwing shade at other artist when she stans for the Tinashe of the 1990’s?
I admire your courage, a HIVe member flying the Aid$ flag high. You just stay focus on your immunodeficiency.
An I admire you for repping and urn full of ashes.
Ashes, ashes, the plane falls DOWN!
*Looks at your AVI* Oh ok.
At least you take pride in the fact that you stan for Janet, Whitney, Lauryen Hill, Toni Braxton, Brandy, and Mariah’s lesser.
He comes for Mariah’s personal life… While I’m still coming with PROFESSIONAL facts. Mark, you’re pathetic. I’m not even gonna come for Aaliyah or Rihanna. We can all sit here and bash these ENTERTAINERS personal lives… But, its just a waste of time. People acting like their lives are so perfect. Smh… Entertainers are humans too. They have flaws. No ones perfect.
He comes for everbody’s personal lives…even 3 year old toddler’s.
Yawn no excuses. Britney filmed Crossroads during the Britney era. Beyoncè filmed Dreamgirls during the B’Day era. Janet filmed Nutty Professor during the All For You era. JLO has filmed plenty of movies during almost every single one of her eras. If Aaliyah was all you claim, the single would have been bigger than top 40 & the album would have platinum. If Toni, MJB, Kim, Brandy, Monica, Mariah, Mýa, DC3, Sade, Janet, and etc could/can do it, why should I find an excuse for R. Kelly’s ex wife?
No hooker, Tho Brit did film Cross road during the recording of her self titled, Beyonce filmed Dream Girls eraly 2006 if not late 2005 and THEN recorded B-Day in 2 weeks. All For You came out in 2001 and the Nutty film came out in 2000. J.Lo was not recording and filming at the same time in the early 2000s. Get your facts together, you tried tho, but try again. We’re stating FACT here, fatty.
I’d love to have a covers album by Mariah (all new covers, not a compilation of past covers). As for her not having another number 1…Anything is possible. MC has been counted out so many times, and has come back again and again. If anyone can do MC can.
Stephy is right. I’m done here bc I’m tired of arguing with someone who can’t even wipe his own bloody, wrinkled up ass cheeks without the aid of his nurse and his arthritis medication… Hopefully now Marsha’s shift at McDonalds is over and he and his tired shade can go back to Down Low Mountain. Good day everyone.
AKA, My fat @ss ran out of things to say. Now I wait for the new avi’less accounts to come in.
B**** if your fat ass want to still go, we can. Most of Aaliyah movies came before the Aaliyah album in the same manner. She filmed QOTD in a short time which is why it was available for release after she died. She was scheduled to do movies, but she didn’t do them. Didn’t Brandy film Moesha during the Never Say Never era? Didn’t Beyoncè do Obsessed right before or during I Am. Movies HELP your career. We Need a Resolution was a flop which is why the record company forcing her to release new singles and shoot new videos in the first place bc if the underperforming
Aaliyah died a flopping thot. Accept it.
She was filming Queen and doing the album at night, at the SAME time. Even right before promo, she was filming the Matrix and had time to do promo because the studio went on a 6 months break, but she passed during the break, FILMING a music video. You WILL NOT discredit her work, you mid 30s fat hog. She died giving us music and videos, it will not be brushed aside for some LAMEs and Pest. She is an icon, MC is a legend… of smoke and mirrors, but still one nonetheless.
Child nothing your 40 year old ass say mean s***. R. Kelly’s ex wife doing a film or two isn’t legendary. A true iconic film while record era is Whitney’s The Bodyguard. No one gives a f*** about Thotliyah. She accomplished nothing when compared to her peers and MC. All Aaliyah was is smoke and mirrors. What did do ALIVE besides an off key Oscar performance and that Janet possibly could have done a song with her? Her entire “legacy” is built on her being dead and “what could have been.”
Funny how Marsha loves to talk about no avi accounts, yet he has more than everyone on this site. I don’t create accounts. A +1/-1 on my comment doesn’t phase me but I see it has you pressed.
LA really spoke facts…In this decade,JLo and Mariah are the only 40+ year old women to have platinum hits.
this is so true that radio doesn’t cater to legends. Madonna promoted the hell out of living for love, and it’s a good song and it still didn’t impact the hot 100 because of no radio support
It’s not a thing to slaughter the lambs. DING DING, Lamb Chops is on the menu today!
“Atleast Whitney had a crack incident that ruined her angelic voice. Moo? The b**** after 1998 started sounding like trash even Aretha was dragging her for filth during that special they did with those white girls. Mariah is a STUDIO vocalist.”
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Sincerely, a Rihanna stan. I CANNOT! Rihanna is a TRASH live singer tho. How can you call someone a STUDIO singer… WHen you stan for RIHANNA??? Rihanna wouldn’t DARE share the same stage with Aretha or Patti. At Least Mariah had the guts to… Hell even BEYONCE would BLOW Rihanna’s tone deaf ass off the stage. Jesus, you stans are pathetic.
Blah blah blah, no one calls Rihanna a vocalist. But people call MooMoo one, even tho there’s very few LIVE shows showing it. What vocalist lip sings and not even put in a effort to dance?
Mariah 90% of the time goes IN & OUT OF LIP SYNC. She hardly lips an ENTIRE performance. She does the same thing Celine Dions been doing for YEARS. Also, Mariah has PLENTY of great live VOCAL performance. Showcasing a 5 octave range on MULTIPLE occasion. Miss me with the BS hun.
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What type of artist yodels like a goat while slapping their p******? That’s not talent.
LOL he stay trying it. Running to Whitney, when Whitney in 09 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rihanna (any era)
Please quit trying to make your scalp feel better bc your edges are gone. You didn’t scalp anyone. When you realized you couldn’t compare Mariah to Thotliyah, you had to run to Whitney and Barbra Streisand. Your shade is tired. I would think a 40 year old queen would be way more witty, but I clearly was wrong. Off to Down Low Mountain you go now. ???? ???? ???? ???? ????
MC is a legend… of smoke and mirrors, but still one nonetheless.
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Ooop! Not when you stan for a goat whisper & praises S*******… Smh……………………….. Ain’t nothing smoke N mirrors about MC except for her lip syncing that’s it. She was a complete artist.
It’s sad when a fatty claims she scapped someone and then make up another account, giving herself props. Anytime YOU have to say to yourself that you dragged someone, you didn’t.
STFU, she drags you like how Chris dragged Rihtards FACE that night.
F*** YOU BITXH! @XoMoDe <—– Don't jump into convo's unless I send for yo flop whack ass.
Oooop let that hoê know Stephy.
Its not like she needs another one. Mariah is a legend with nothing to prove.
Hey Baby!
Hey doll, how are you?
@Mark why are you so fücking disrespectful? You make people drag tf out of Aaliyah. Chill tf out n****.
F*** Mark and the baby prostitute that he stans for.
Smh he’s so annoying like how can you come for a LEGEND when you stan for OVERRATED TRASH like THOTLIYAH.
Whitney could still sing when she was alive. There are videos to back it up and prove. Also look up her autopsy, the doctors said her vocal chords were perfectly fine!! It was her lungs that were the problem. Had she stop smoking (causing the lack of withstanding control of breathing/holding high notes) she would still had blown the roof off, she just would’ve sounded like the MLIYL era Nippy. She did more justice of her songs off IL2U live than in the studio. I respect her more too cause she didn’t lip sync during that. Like her song ” Try It On My Own” she kept it real. I Wish She made a jazz album tho like Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Nina Simone and Ella Fitzgerald.
XO Glitter was not to flop when it was to originally be released in the late 90’s, but dropping 9/11 took its toll on it. You didn’t me nor Stephy saying Glitter didn’t flop, but the soundtrack still sold 3 mil ww which is more than the red album. If you all can give excuses on the red album underperforming, then why can’t we do the same on the glittery soundtrack? Have a seat with the chubby, bitter Marshmallow.
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PS Marsha, we know that’s you.
You better let shim know Stephy! Tommy became obsessed with Mariah and proved she didn’t need him for those double digital ww album sales which is why he signed JLO and etc just to destroy Mimi. No one knows what Mimi had to go through to be with that man. Da Brat even said she was forced to whisper and learn how to lip read just bcTommy had cameras watching her 24/7.
I think stanning for the dead starts taking a toll on ones mental stability, Mark seek help.
Well with Ciara selling 6K her 2nd week, you stan for the dead as well.
SCREAMS!
Little ol me got these pest, LAMES, Rag dolls and C Scoops teaming up, lol.
Sweetheart stop. Little ole you was 20 years and 75 pounds ago.
I’m talking about me, not Mariah.
Fat burn-t black ugly sensitive ass nigggga! Drag that disrespectful thing boo.
Hahahahaha, if y’all can. Still trying? Like Mariah singing?
Wanting a hit song does not mean that you are competing with with this new trash. That’s what y’all have twisted. Madonna & Celine arent bigger than Mariah. In the US and other places her celebrity is far bigger. Mariah can definitely still sing. She just has to revamp her image, sound, style etc. she should hook up with Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith, JT or Bruno Mars. There are talented artists out there that would make sense for her to work with. She’s Mariah, so there are chances for her to do it.
@Theman: Yes, an Ed Sheeran collab would be great. A Luke James collab would sound good too but it probably wouldn’t do as well on the charts.
“20 years ago and 70 pound lighter.” Hahahahahaha, she killed this performance tho. Favorite one, love the two Kelly Prices part.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_-vgiGtxvc
Girl bye! You call that killing? Her 1995 concert kills that performance. Your not even picking her best stuff smh…
I think that performance is amazing, but I love the 94-96 live voice more. Still I enjoy performances like Vision of Love Oprah, If It’s Over Grammys, If It’s Over SNL, Live Takes Time Tatu Club, and etc.
This performance slays me! Her upper belts were so resonant & clear. Mariah was known for hitting the best F#5 notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDXUqB4Y2sE
See you think OVER singing is killing it, her switching from chest to head voice, her tone and the lil growl is what i love. The video you posted was blah, the other own down there, she was cracking all over the place. Again, this is MY favorite LIVE performance.
Whatever. I love oversinging. It shows that she really could hit all her HIGH notes LIVE & sometimes even HIGHER. The video down below is where she hits a G#7 whistle. Which has NEVER been done in the studio. My video is not blah. She hit 4 F#5 notes in a row. That;s far from blah. You don’t know about technical singing. So, stfu.
All of Yall mine your f****** business u dumb b****** Mariah is a legend and she will demolish all these little piece of s*** singers u guys consider today.
The song bird supreme.
Watch “Mariah Carey – Emotions @ Arsenio Hall 1991” on YouTube
https://youtu.be/pj2gbgGPjvw
My favorite MC performance ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TELGPgTaSpY
L.A. Reid is somewhat right. Usher’s been out nearly as long as Mariah Carey, and he recently had a hit with I Don’t Mind after a string of flops. Mimi is the queen of comebacks. If anybody can figure it out, it’s her. Where L.A. Reid is wrong is in not acknowledging that the paradigm has shifted. MC could get to the top again with the right song (key phrase — right song), but the strategy will not start with radio, but with a groundswell of excitement that leads to strong numbers in streaming and sales. MC has a huge social media presence, but those numbers aren’t translating into success, b/c for some reason her recent material is not connecting with listeners. She needs to go in a different direction, but I can’t say exactly what that direction is. Perhaps something retro would do the trick.
This post/article is everything. Just what was needed to shut up people that are constantly calling our vets and legends flops.
i think this is actually a tasteful article about @mariahcarey! My opinion is this, LA Reid is not doubting MC’s capabilities of a #1, but based on his expertise and Mariah’s style there is not the same chance now, as of back then, of that happening. I am a lamb, and I recognize this. I do think she still puts out GREAT music, and people should take s listen, and I think this go around people will, because “#Beautiful” actually should she can still sell records! If you view the audience impressions, sales, and spins if ranks higher in debuts than some of her previous hit signs! It would have debuted much higher, had it been released at an appropriate day of the week.
I go on to say that her most recent compilation album, which I bought, “#1 to Infinity” is not about sales at all. The album is about her Las Vegas resident, with the same title. This is about promo! She has 360 deal where the label invests in EVERYTHING she does, so that want to see returns everywhere! And it gives her a chance to make more as well.
The album also does have a historical context, because the only album of hers to have all of her #1 songs, and the only artist in history to have 18 #1 songs on a single album. It’s historical, it’s music history, which is why I purchased two copies, one for storage and the other for listening.
Mariah Carey is a legend, and she is respected and should be respected as such. She is capable of “comebacks” because she has done them before! She is amazing. Love her! “KKLB!”
I’d love to see Mariah Carey cannon create her own label or get into movie