In an era that has seen album sales at their collective worst, some stars have opted to employ innovative marketing schemes to ensure their sales stay afloat. Arguably one of the most creative means of doing so was imparted by rap royal Jay Z in a recent endorsement deal with Samsung that saw the company purchase 1 million copies of his latest album ‘Magna Carta Grail’ for givewaway to users of Galaxy S III, Galaxy S 4, and Note II on July 4th by way of a specially created app.
While RIAA embraced the method and ensured such tactic would avail platinum certification to the hip hop hitmaker, Billboard, on the other hand, were not so welcoming and quickly slammed any notion the deal’s sales would impact the count honored by the music Bible.
Fast forward a month later, fans of Jay have cried foul after Billboard editorial director Bill Werde took to Twitter this week to share word that Lady Gaga – who recently announced her new album ‘ArtPop’ (November 11) would be introduced via a similar, app-based approach to album sales generation – would see her sales count…
Via Lady Gaga:
When quizzed by Monsters on how app purchases would affect album sales, the editorial director replied:
Umm, how is this a story? You can PURCHASE the album in the free app. I’ll waiting for the LD kids to jump on here bashing.
May I add. Do y’all really think Jay Z is crying about not having his 1M albums counted on a chart that he topped with 500K on top of the 1M he already “sold”. The album is units away from double plat. You gave a million albums away and STILL sold another half! Plus you pocketed the 5 Million. WINNING.
Don’t forget about the 100% writing credits, plus the fact that his album is released on a joint deal with SC Enterprises and DefJam, what an asshole.
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Billboard is doing too much, This isn’t fair .
Ignore my comment , u didn’t read it but billboard is still doing too much
WHAT HAPPEN TO GETTING ALBUM SALES THE OLD WAY, BY FANS ACTUALLY GOING OUT THERE AND BUYING THE ALBUM, IDK WHY THEY’RE TRYING TO FIND LITTLE LOOP HOLES TO ADD TO THEIR ALBUM SALES.
What’s the difference from buying it from an itunes/amazon M** app Vs a Lady Gaga app? My only question is how they gonna know for sure how many sales come from her app?
Its different because when it comes i a form of a app, her fans can interact on the app, share things and be part of a fan based community ON the app. It’s not exactly targeted at the world market of music listeners 🙂 We all know how she likes to forward her creativity to her fans (regardless of haters), so maybe she’s using the app to put some of her ideas into a compact place!? This album will sell more than Katy Perry’s PRISM and other significant albums that are going to be released this year, as her albums always do, so I guess it deserves the app concept. Personally I believe she sells albums because she is the best entertainer/female artist around at this time. I’m not a fan, but I’ve seen artists come and go over the many years, and I KNOW the ones which will be impossible to get rid of 🙂 Gaga’s a keeper! Guess we do have a new Madonna.. And its pretty guessable how her album sales will be counted through the app. Its exactly the same as how they know how many times an app has beeb downloaded or purchased. 😉
What happened to using a phone the old fashioned way, where you take out your number pocket book, wait for a dial tone and roll on those numbers. Get my point?
Nope.
Are you a Beyonce fan?
^^^ He’s not dragging you on the crust of his shoes, so I don’t think he is.
Why should Jay’s fans be angry? Samsung bought the app which had the songs and gave it away for FREE, Gaga is giving an app for free but fans are still needed to BUY the tracks via the app. Simple.
I can’t with this fake h**.
Read the article and use your brain, you ignorant s***!
This isn’t fair, they should have included Jay’s samsung sales if they are going to do it with Lady gaga. He didn’t need them anyway his album still did good though. Also why are artist using apps to sell albums, especially artist who sell albums. Last time i checked lady gaga or jay z had problems going platinum.
The app would be free not the digital album. Fans would pay for that. With Jay Z the album came for free with the app. Why is anyone upset about Gaga’s deal? #applesandoranges
Gaga’s fans are getting the app for free, but still have to purchase the album so it should count toward her sales. The public is buying the album and not some company. Jayz need to get over himself because it’s not the same thing.
H** where did u read where jay is complainin?
Well it was Gayz who did it wrong.
Gayz is 1 whinny bi$h with stupid fans.
I don’t care for gaga but she got it right and deserves the sales counting to her album.
Girl go play in yo kat and stfh
I DON’T KNOW HER!!!!!
**Plays Madonna – The Power of goodbye**
This is becoming ridiculous. Every other month there’s so convoluted “new” way Billboard, RIAA or the music industry as a whole is releasing an album and “counting” sales and it’s all very confusing or stupid. Point blank, nothing should count except physical units. If fans want the album, they should either go to the store and buy the CD or order it from Amazon. If Gaga’s or Jay-Z’s fans are unwilling to do that, then nothing else should be tallied. I’m sick of hearing about apps, streaming, youtube, keychains, glow sticks, etc., etc.
DEAD @ keychains and glowsticks!! Just bury me NOW!
ITA. I’m tired of the GP’s laziness being catered to when it comes to entertainment. It’s like if it can’t sync up with, or be accessed from, their phones then they don’t want it.
how old r u? 56??? we’re in 2013 n its cold evolution.why would pple travel 4 miles to purchase music, its so nice to stay in ur bed n hav everythin u want, including p***
why are people getting mad over Gaga using a App to sell her album? because it’s obvious jay z’s fans cannot comprehend words or cannot read for s***…..
jay had a company buy 1 million of his album and his fans could download the app and the cd for free..
gaga on the other hand is only allowing you to download the app for Artpop, and once you have the app you can choose to buy the album or not
for the slow people her music is not free, just the app comes free
There’s an obvious difference here. If u have a Samsung phone, u got the mchg album for free.
With the artpop app, the only thing free is the app itself. You still have to buy the music itself. The app is just a different avenue thru which u can buy it. So I totally understand billboard’s decision and agree with it.haters take several seats. Last time I checked MCHG is doing very well on billboard in spite of the music from the Samsung app not being tallied and jayz himself is not hurting for cash.So wtf is there to talk about?!
The artpop app is just a different medium through which the album is bought. It doesn’t affect anything. Jay-Z’s did not count because having the album available to the customers of that specific computer does not indicate interest in the album, only the samsung product.
Gay-Z is as dumb as his wife T*********!!!!
Billboard doesn’t count albums that were given away for free, which is what Gay-Z did… GaGa fans will still have to purchase the album though, even with the free app.
Gay-Z and T********* can have every seat at the Yankee Stadium
What does Bey have to do with this thread lol?
Bey and her Hive mentally r*** you in ways you’d never dream of …
Lazy Hairy Daddy GayGay stan calling someone a t*****? Gawd take me nowwwe
Girl go take care of that d*** between your faves thighs as Katy and Rih snatch the remaining 2 hairs on her balls
Gaga’s nothing but an unoriginal flopass copycat. Mimicking Bjork’s method from years ago? Typical. Madonna, Bjork, who’s next, Mylene Farmer?
Gaga cheats again. She can’t sell cds the traditional way at $13.99 a pop, so she has to reduce them to 99cents or come up with some silly free “app” to move units that she otherwise couldn’t. Wonder what the 2nd wk drop will look like. Last time it was the biggest in Billboard history.
But Madonna MDNA brook that record. Not shade just facts!
The THIRST
can’t people read anymore? or do people just base their opinions on the amount of hate they have for a person..
they hate that person so much that,
they can’t even comprehend simple f****** words…
people are giving jay z a pass, for giving a away 1 million album, so that his sales can show how great he is..
but gaga on the other hand has never give her albums away for free,
first of all, amazon purchased born this way from’s gaga’s record company at a regular price..than amazon sold her album for 99c..gaga had s*** to do with the amazon deal…..
second, you can only download the ARTROP app for free, you do not get free music with the APP, you still have to purchase the album
And how exactly will Billboard know if someone’s bought an entire album or just 1 song? Will they credit her with an album sale for any purchase on that app? I wouldn’t put it past the floppy ass sneakyass b****.
how do they know when u purchase music from itunes,amazon, alibaba, pussymaniac, walmart n other retailers?? there’re over 200 retailers alone in western countries
I don’t get the purpose of the app….but i cannot stand people who cannot read for s***..the app is free, the music is not free..how hard is it to comprehend those words?
they read the post and immediately start bashing people without even reading the whole post….
the jay z fans are a bunch of morons…billboard didn’t count the 1 million album sales, because people didn’t buy them, they were giving away for free…
now with gaga, she’s only giving away a free APP, free music doesn’t come with that app….how hard is that for a bunch of morons to comprehend?
Girl just hush…DAYUM!!
lol why are you trying so hard dear? This is like your 4th or 5th post playing damage control, trying to “explain” and shame people for allegedly not reading.
Stan much? Don’t like people coming for Gaga? lol
Everything you’re saying is falling on deaf ears. Nothing you’re arguing in her defense is having any effect, no matter how logical you think you’re being. We in the mood to drag Gaga, so drag her we will! lol
a sold album is a sold album. isn’t that app a pimped downloader for itunes. and you gotta pay for it. so it’s sold. counts. jay-z sold his albums to all the samsung employees and they gave them away. looks weird. but same s***. it sold. end of story. 🙂
and f*** that status. platinum s***. it’s just to feel more worth right? 😆
ohh yeah. for gaga they better just count the actually sold albums rather then apps given. casue that’s bogus if they download the apps themselves and don’t buy the album but trigger that fake sales numbers. i can definetely see something there. but it’s just tricking billboard and stats not the mint. so it’s pointless and just for a hype. 😆 😆 😆
Of course Lady Gaga’s music will be counted because she is white, this is America we’re talking about. What else is new?
FAIL!
Typical flop. Blatantly copying Bjork in every aspect of this album app nonsense.
A third world f** coming for ME???
@Arabic-Waste-Water needs to get serious about life though, he clearly isn’t serious at the moment
Not mad at anyone’s sales make ya funds people!!
Who’s going to keep track with jay z we know the contract was for a. MILLION. Neilson won’t be tracking this the label can come up with any number when it comes to sales.
Ok erm I dont see any ‘angered’ Jay Z fans (like there was some huge backlash?) that was just to start s*** against Jay.
Exactly! These so-called “angry” Jay-Z fans simply do not exist.
Trying to start drama where there is none.
They will know if they purchased the whole album or a single the same way they know when someone purchases either on iTunes, Amazon or music retailers dummy! Damn you are stupid!
We all know that the story won’t end here. Some entity like Amazon will be coaxed into buying a million copies of Gaga’s album for that “app” at once to give them away for as part of some so-called “promotion” like last time, and her camp will try and claim those as legitimate sales. Gaga and her people are manipulative and shiesty. She could never pull an Adele or Justin T. move, promoting and selling her album the the traditional way. Her suicidal gay EMO freakshow fans have ADD and don’t own CD players.
I’m Just Trying to Swallow that “App” Pill Still….
Personally I prefer the Old Skool Way, you Stream the Album, and if you Like it go and Purchase it in iTunes or you go and Buy a Physical copy!!! That’s It.
gaga is Clean , You Will Still have To Buy The Album to Enjoy the Free App, So Sales will Get counted, IDC, now where is the Music ?
Swallow N** u c** guzzling s***. This s*** unfair!
Ghetto Uneducated Trash Leave NOW.
Billboard count gaga last album even though that was bought and subsidize by a company
That why gaga could sold it for. 99 cents. I don’t see how jay deal is any different. Only difference is the technology use to deliver the product. 50 years from now bill will write that gaga was the trailblazer and the first to do it when we all know it was jay z
This is how the white man re write history to make them look good
If you just came to earth you would think elvis invented rock and roll and not little Richard and chuck berry. Classic white people.
what does race hav to do with it? when amazon sold gaga’s btw for $1 people still had to go on amazon n buy the music, so there was a will to buy the music.it aint the same with samsung where 80% of customers prolly could careless abt jay but were forced to deal with the album.hav u ever used a phone?there’re always some free apps which come with the phone n those u choose to buy.
the billboard guys counted the jay deal as 1 or 2 units sold cuz thats what they do to dumb stans who purchase several copies of the same album/single.
I don’t see the problem – they are still paying the normal price for the album via the app, it’s just another promotional outlet.
Jay-Z’s album was given away free to 1 million people.
Fake flop h**. #nuffsaid
The industry is dead I mean the gaga thing is ok but this emerging technology makes young kids miss out on anticipation and buying an album before you hear all the tracks that’s why I can’t get mad at R&B artists bc at least they still do things with integrity
This is just promotional hype to get ppl to talk about the album.
Plenty of artist have apps already, whether fan made or official. so what’s the big deal?
No app sales shouldn’t count, but if you actually got a company to purchase 1 Million albums: Then those sells should count.Physical album sales are down and digital purchases are still on the rise. Why go out to the store and buy an album when you can
A.Stream it on your phone
B.Buy a monthly subscription and still stream the album
C.Gaming Consoles like Xbox(Microsoft)PS3(Sony)(Who owns the biggest catalogue of music) have direct streaming subscriptions apps
D:Amazon,Itunes countless of other services that let you literally pick apart the album and buy the songs you like…
The RIAA was going to eventually have to change the way albums were going to be certified
This isn’t the first time they have..but in this regard I think Gaga’s album is going to be sold and the app just added bonus content.
I know a lot of people out there with the most detrimental entourages they are the root of their demise.
I was refering to this yesterday, medias are paid to remain silent, i hate so much certain artists because they are having success buying all the things that they are supposed to have with all their hype but somehow they don’t have it, i could care less if you are talented or not, you don’t have to cheat to win, Bill Werde was aware of this, someone tell him of Gaga’s team plan to give her the greatest first week sales ever with ARTPOP, the problem is that those sales does not exist, Billboard keeps protecting Lady Gaga.
Here’s the thing:
The rumor is that the number of songs/albums purchased through Lady Gaga’s app will be REPORTED to Billboard and SoundScan.
REPORTED by Lady Gaga’s team at TechHAUS!
“Don’t buy the album on iTunes” – that’s what they are saying all over the web. Why not?
Because if you buy the album on iTunes, it will be “only one album sold.”
So what are they going to do?
“Download the app for free, then download each song separatedly.” Why?
Because each song downloaded through the app will be reported as one album sold. (Meaning), if the album has 20 songs and they downloaded each one of them instead of the album, it will be counted as 20 copies sold of the album, giving her like 30000 million first week sales, LOL.
If they were willing to work it out a CD+app bundle before, I have no doubt they will turn their blind eye to this, and believe any number of “sales” reported by Lady Gaga’s TechHAUS.
Welcome to the ARTSCAM era!
I just wonder if they will actually report how many free-apps will be downloaded on the first week. You see, it’s going to look rather strange, if on its first week, let’s say 400,000 free-apps are downloaded, but mysteriously over one million albums is sold. But I’m sure they have a plan to cover it up.
Deal with it, this girl is a fraud no matter if she’s talented or not, FRAUD!
The reach. You can actually PURCHASE it through the app.
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