TGJ Roundtable: Is Mariah Carey’s Las Vegas Residency A Good Career Move?

Published: Friday 23rd Jan 2015 by Sam

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Welcome to the latest TGJ Roundtable!

Over the years, That Grape Juice has established a distinguished voice that – whether loved or loathed – sparks discussion, debate, and on occasion drama!

Though comprised of seasoned writers who share a similar outlook on Urban Pop culture, the idiosyncrasies of the TGJ team members often lend for quite heated debates “behind the scenes” about the hottest topics.

Now, we give you a front row seat to the show. In a format similar to ‘The View’ or ‘The Real’, TGJ editors – Sam, David, Rashad, and Joe – get real in a very candid way.

Today’s roundtable topic asks…

Is Mariah Carey’s Las Vegas Residency A Good Career Move?

Sam

Oh Mariah.

It’s a statement I find myself uttering a lot these days. Why? Because her career has become such a conundrum that it’s difficult to decipher what her true predicament is. And this new Vegas residency serves as a prime example.

On the one hand, I’m “for” it. Once deemed a desert for de-hydrated careers, Britney Spears’ trip to the ‘strip has somewhat transformed the meaning of Vegas. It can be fresh, cutting-edge, and wildly successful…all things Mariah’s career is thirsty for.mariah-carey-1s-2015-vegas-thatgrapejuice
What’s more, as one of the industry’s last single name entities, Mariah and her bevy of hits are an amazing marketing magnet…on paper.

A point which leads to my primary concern…the reality of Mimi as a performer. Still one of today’s best out-right vocalists, years of use (and arguable misuse) have shaved much of the power from her range. Also, from a simple singing standpoint, she’s so consistently inconsistent that it’s frightening. Unlike Britney, she won’t have choreographed spectacles to distract from her shortcomings. And unlike Celine, she isn’t able to sing live confidently or lip-sync like a pro. It’s like “girl, pick a hustle!”
The whole episode really does feel like quite the risk, particularly at a time when even the mainstream mass have caught on to fact her voice isn’t what it was.

As such, my ultimate stance on Mimi’s Vegas foray is a simple “wait and see”. That said, I, personally hope she delivers and proves the naysayers wrong. I also hope she manages to leverage the exposure towards the success of new music too as I feel she has one big moment left in her – whether that be a 19th #1 or a smash album.

On a completely random note, if there’s one thing I’m most buzzed about it’s the fact the #1’s angle means we’ll be getting new performances of ‘Don’t Forget About Us’ – a song which has yet to be done justice live.

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David

Though I’m not sure how it’ll rescue her ghastly album sales, Mariah Carey’s Las Vegas residency may just be the best thing to happen to her career in some time.

Eradicating the costs and stress that oft come along with touring, being based in Vegas should hopefully see Carey develop a show strong enough to attract the attention of Live Nation and the like, and give her time to figure out how she fits into Pop’s puzzle as it is today.

For, despite seeing her last era outperform Jennifer Lopez’, the lack of “vitality” in her brand sees her billed as an ageing diva unable to keep up with acts she inspired.

Could Vegas be the place all that changes? I sure hope so!

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Rashad

Even at her prime, Mariah Carey has never been an artist who owned the “total” stage. Whitney and Celine, her vocal counterparts, could at least get down with the get down, without relying heavily on choreography. Mariah, on the other hand, was unable to use mariah-whitney-thatgrapejuiceanything but her voice to sell her show. Now, I will not pretend that that is not enough because we are talking about “the” Mariah Carey. However, in an era where her voice at its most robust is just no longer, it will be interesting to see how Mimi can sell an entire show on as grand of a stage as “Vegas”.

I must say, though, that I am totally here for Mariah going to Vegas. Because she can still use her name. In comparison to where certain other divas careers were when crossing the 45 mark, Mariah is still able to give enough of a show to not have people feeling as if her gift is gone. Even if  her voice is routinely absent.
So, as long as she continues to sell her name via vehicles such as Idol and now Vegas, I’m absolutely for it.

I just don’t see this particular gig being long-lasting once those dreaded videos begin to do the rounds. That is unless she has her pre-record game on lock!

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Joe

Mimi takes Vegas… interesting.

Though not as vilified as they once were – notably thanks to Celine Dion‘s run – residencies are still very much perceived as the last hurrah for former charts forces.

With that being said, it would be a major good look, metaphorically, for the diva whomariah-britney- remains the female artist with the most #1 records in the US. The emphasis is smartly being put on said credentials, hence it should not be too hard for Carey to fill out those seats. It should be noted that the Vegas audience is not renowned for being hard-to-please, quite the contrary; in all due respect, the “entertainment” value alone is reason enough for the citizens of the world that can be found in Sin City to attend a concert (see: Britney Spears, Piece Of Me).

Saying that, though the concert-goers can be “fooled” by the big production and the legendary name attached to it, sadly the same cannot be said about social media which in this day and age equals the press.

Hopefully ‘The Elusive Chanteuse Show’ served as some sort of reality check for the singer and a reminder that when you are consistently celebrated for your out-of-this-world vocal talent, you must not only take care of it but also use it when people have given their hard-earned money to witness it.

Maybe dividing the set between original arrangements and stripped back moments – which would be deemed ‘intimate’ – could work in Ms. Carey’s favor because, let’s face it, trying to sing those 18 #1s in their original form – belts, whistles and all -sounds like either overkill or pre-record city – which can not be an option.

Anyhow, wishing Mariah the best!

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  1. Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

    Yes I think that’s the best move for her. Usually when some pop stars careers are over and they can’t sell new music or have become irrelevant, they go to vegas. The land of has beens! That’s not a bad thing tho. Get money Mariah! I could neva! 😀

    • Naomi January 22, 2015

      Lol stawp!

      • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

        Lmaooo 😀

    • Cough Cough January 22, 2015

      Hey TROLL_HIVE(formerly Slay_Hive) how you been today? Did you meet up with your boo today? What’s “his” screen name? Is “he” cut or uncut? How many miles away is “he”? Oh and lastly have you seen Prismatic? She seems to have disappeared as of yesterday.

      http://youtu.be/Qsbzwm8kMBw

      • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

        Ms. ElusiveTroll would you like to sniff my ass too. You nasty nosey b****! #StawpHidinggurl lmaoooo

      • Cough Cough January 22, 2015

        TROLL_HIVE…. Girl. You know I have nothing but love for you (and Prismatic your alter ego) but you are not going to sit here and read Miss Carey like your poohnanny is so fresh n so clean. Yeah Miss Carey ain’t what she used to be but at least she can say the dīck that was nuttïng all up in her for 6 years wasn’t from a sèx app(Jackd) where random tops jîzzed in you recreationally- it was her husband. And let’s not even get into the debate on what sèx your boo is.. Because you say “he’s” a “he” but “he” is giving me all kinds of Paris is burning teas.. You know what I will let the girls on here be the judge.. So ladies in gents , is TROLL_HIVES boo a man or woman???

        http://youtu.be/BP5_UHpt0fU

      • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

        Cough Cough here’s an update on my life since your lonely ass has obviously still been trying to peek through my old apartment window. I no longer live in Atlanta. I moved to New York where the REAL men are. Find you one and stop worrying about what goes on in my bedroom, you disgusting w****.

    • I STAN(D) FOR TALENT January 22, 2015

      Hi Prismatic. You know you can’t try an opinion of someone with so many troll accounts. Skyfall dragged and exposed the shít outta you when you forgot to change into one of your many email accounts and continued to post comments which had the same Gravatar, but had different names. Screeeems!!!! You and your street-corner $5 foot long weaves cannot be trusted. Kiii 😀 😀 😀

      • I STAN(D) FOR TALENT January 22, 2015

        *trust not try.

      • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

        STOOOP! Prismatic is one of you bothered serial top commentator h***! or that nasty disease infected Cough Cough b**** ( 100% Troll) Check my comments on EVERY post. I have this new pic now. Everything I have to say, I can say with this email and gravatar, I’m not scuuuured of you nothing as h***. I shut that s*** down last night.
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        Often imitated but NEVER duplicated. Imitation is a form of flaterry. Keep talking about Slay_Hive.I love it 😀

      • Cough Cough January 22, 2015

        TROLL_HIVE, yeah girl you’re right no bïtch can imitate you honey, nobody can take as many dîcks as you have for the amount of time that you have. Let them know your secret girl- Poppers, Tina(meth) and your bûtt plug. But beware, I heard there’s a couple young tranńy loving butch cûnt loving bottoms down there in ATL tryna take your crown so you’d better guard she well and get-tuh-fücking!

        http://youtu.be/xdcoyOBITHo

      • I STAN(D) FOR TALENT January 22, 2015

        Lmfao!!!! Screaming @ the campaigning and how you want to prove that you’re some kind of important or influential commentator on this little ass blog. You’re not that active. I rarely see your, so nobody would want to troll under a non-factor like you.
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        Active people like Me, LB, Mark111, SkyFall etc – yes. As for you, that’s such a reach. You slipped and got exposed. We aint letting this go so you can continue with those hilarious excuse That’s your 2334335th excuse in a little over 24 hours. 😀 😀

      • I STAN(D) FOR TALENT January 22, 2015

        …hilarious *excuses. 😀

      • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

        @Troll Troll

        Are you stalking me and looking through my windows at night? Why are you so concerned with the marvelous d*** I’m getting? Is your love life that non existent that you are worried about me? Has your tricking coins run out? Don’t take your frustrations out on me because I get what I want when I want it, while you’re a lonely pre-op t***** mad at the world. kii BYE

        @ i stand for nothing but trolling

        So how can I be not that active but a troll? You contradicted yourself when you told me yesterday that I don’t have a life while you’re here everyday leaving hundreds of comments and you aer on the top commentator’s section EVERY week! 😀 Gurl find ya life! Being the most active blogger on here does not make you a popular blogger sweetheart, because as I see it, no one is really here for you and your annoying redundant comments, and I’ve only noticed you for a few months. I barely come here like I used to and you h*** are having a full conversation about me on an entire post.( Which was clearly a troll, check the receipts) My impact on these people in this blog is undeniable. So thank you for continuing to discuss the “irrelevant” slay_hive

    • Missy January 23, 2015

      Mariah will be a success and her stage presence has gotten better but she is not consistent with her vocal game but with enough glitter, beautiful costumes she should be good

  2. Beysus January 22, 2015

    Let’s just hope her voice is in good shape… I’m sure people would rather see her than JLo…

  3. Hur January 22, 2015

    Love Mariah already got my tickets!!

  4. Naomi January 22, 2015

    I don’t see why not. She hasn’t got anything else to loose.

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      Yeah you right, she lost her voice years ago. Not much else to lose. I said go’ head Mariah!

  5. AmbeRussell January 22, 2015

    Vegas will only be bad UF tickets don’t sellorshe is a vocal train wreck. Other than that, I see no problem with her doing a Vegas show. It keeps her legacy building, a check is still coming in, she can develope a stronger showmanship for the stage and get new fans or ppl to fall in love with her all over again. Who cares if Vegas is for “has beens”? I mean u wouldn’t see a lot of ppl who are true has beens booking a stage at a local night club let a lone in Vegas. She need not prove nothing else. She already showed us 5 octaves , 7(or so) Grammys, many of albums at #1, 18 #1 singles, countless albums sold world wide and one of the best modern Xmas songs. Anyone can diss her, but her #s don’t lie and 25 yr in the game she is where the rest of the living ledges are. I mean who else is selling (besides for Barbra S duets album) that well? She is past her prime but is still doing well

  6. Rihanna #1 fan t January 22, 2015

    I love Mariah .. But she is a legend who cares what she sells at this point… she already did everything she needed to do right now she is just performing because she wants to perform not cause she has to there is a difference !!
    Either way she don’t need Vegas !!

  7. Realist January 22, 2015

    It will be a good look for Mariah for a few reasons:

    1.) Mariah’s voice tends to get better when she has to sing more frequently, for example, the Difference between the first “Chanteuse Show” and the ones toward the end and the holiday show.. She was in much better vocal form. Also see Charmbracelet tour as well.

    2.) since she will be in residency and “touring” but not traveling she will most likely lose a lil of weight and as we all know when Mariah is skinny she looks just as young, if not younger than the girls in their late 20’s early 30’s.

    3.) She will be getting even more coins and extending her lead as the overall most rich black singer

    4.) it should inspire her to get back in the studio and put out another album

    Bïtch get your vocals together and slay!!!!! Ain’t nobody been written off and came back like you have time and time again so you will be fine and resilient- as per usual!

  8. Paulo January 22, 2015

    I think she’s a great fit for Vegas tbh. No shade! She’s like the last diva in the classic sense of the word. She is gonna wear a lot of furs pull on a lot of faces shade her ass off as she chats the crowd and might even really sing! Nothing wrong with keeping your name active as she prepares to come back with real decent songs.

  9. metzo January 22, 2015

    Yes it’s amazing. She has little to prove now. That’s the best thing she she can do rn.
    I would def c her if I could.

  10. Getty January 22, 2015

    Sam when will you ever discuss what’s happening in your country of origin? Boko Haram killed over 2000 Nigerians yet all you worry about is what Mariah and Rihanna are doing with their lives

    • OMG Logic!!! January 22, 2015

      Ain’t nobody got time to give Muslims the attention they want.

      • Skyfall January 22, 2015

        Wow you are really such an ignorant beyotch. Most Muslims are nice and peaceful those terrorist are NOT Muslim and do NOT follow the Islamic faith. Besides more Christians have cause turmoil, hatred and chaos on the world than any religion.

  11. Skyfall January 22, 2015

    First of all Mariah didn’t lose her “voice” from misuse. She was born with nodules (Look it up bittccch) and with time they get harder and it’s becomes very painful and bad for her voice causing hoarseness and inconsistency in the voice. Have you ever notice how Mariah talking voice is so deep and raspy but she can still belt high G#5 and even an A5 once and whistle up to G7s. Her nodules help her reach her lower voice too. Regardless of what Mariah thinks she is not an Alto she is a soprano period.

    As far as Vegas she’s making more money doing Vegas than what most popular mainstream artist make touring so she wins there. The best thing for her is just getting vocal rest.. Rehearse and sipping some good ole honey and tea. Losing a little bit of weight wouldn’t hurt and wearing flattering clothes.. Other than that she will slay and you hater beyotches and lessors will deal.

    • Paulo January 22, 2015

      I’m not a doctor but I find it hard to believe anyone is born with nodules. I still remember her talking about her mama telling her to stop playing with whistle register or she’d f*** her chords.

      • TheElusiveLamb January 22, 2015

        No she wasn’t born with them, but she had them when she a kid. I believe she only had one and in 1997 she developed two. She hurt her voice by not resting, no vocal warm up, smoking, major stress, and etc. She did however, vocally come back in 2001 and it lasted another 5 years. I believe the nose job changed her tone in 2007/2008. After the miscarriage in 2008, her voice changed majorly. In 2009 she had a string of iffy performances but did decent and well on the tour. Thanks to pregnancy, she was back to the Emancipation of Mimi vocals, but right after she has been up and down. Still though, 2012 Plot Your Escape has some great vocals.

    • Mark111 January 22, 2015

      I read the reason she could hit those notes was because of nodules.

  12. OMG Logic!!! January 22, 2015

    All Queen Mariah needs to do is record some convincing and varied vocals to use live for certain songs and do her damn rehearsals for once and she’ll be fine!

  13. FutureCIARA January 22, 2015

    This is good for her! Everybody can’t be a showgirl….

    Besides she’s a Fuckking I.C.O.N!!!
    She can do whateva she wants!

  14. MariahIsMusic1 January 22, 2015

    Sigh. So bored by MC I see. Anyways If she’s happy I’m happy.

  15. MariahIsMusic1 January 22, 2015

    Bothered

  16. Suicide Blonde January 22, 2015

    They all have a point, but at the end of the day she’s still Mariah Carey, her show will do fine, it will probably have a smaller production than Britney and Celine’s shows, which i already like, even Madonna’s next tour is say to be more of an intimate show, that’s why she chooses to do more arenas and less stadiums with her upcoming tour, i love that, Mariah is good at intimate shows, i’m definitely going to see her + is Vegas, everything is good there 😀

  17. mike January 22, 2015

    Lol as much as we know Sam hates Mariah – his ‘pick a hustle’ comment was extremely on point.

    If there is anything that Beyonce and Celine Dion have shown us is that lip synching is an art just like acting is. If you do it….do it convincingly!

    I went to Celines Vegas show twice and know for a fact that she lipped at least half of the show. I didn’t care though because looking at it I was kinda still satisfied because the vocals were freshly recorded and she acted so well.

    I disagree however that Mariah has never had great moments as a performer. I think those moments have always come in very intimate settings though which is unfortunate. It just seems that she lets loose and just sings there, whereas Whitney thrived on showing up and showing off on the grandest stage.

    I also went to Mariahs Christmas show and its clear that she took alot of the vocal criticism to heart because some of the performances were amazing and fully live and I think again the smaller stage in Vegas will work in her favor. Consistent sound, intimate audiences and a removal of the strain of traveling with children and big crews all over the world.

    At 45 and with all her accolades its unfortunate to see a blog as notable as this calling her chart acheivements now as failures. We never called Patti’s or Anita’s or Aretha’s sales after 45 as disastrous or we never went at them so hard. And Mariah’s last effort was a disaster but this blog didn’t go after her!

    But I guess that just goes to show how relevant Mariah still remains cause we definitely aren’t doing any roundtables for Celine or Toni!

    • TheElusiveLamb January 22, 2015

      The REAL reason they are doing this turn table is to continue the media manipulation (using this site as the “urban” TMZ) until she finally goes 6 feet under. Her career is a mirror of Whitney’s and MJ’S before their unfortunate passing. It doesn’t phase me much though because at the end of the day, Mariah still touched MY life and millions of others and that is something none of the media can take away.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj-blq8Ls38&sns=em

  18. @RealMattPhoenix January 22, 2015

    I don’t think it’s time for her to go to Vegas when the last remaining dinosaur is left roaming the earth in a rebellious state.
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    The elusive wasn’t bad at all, just marketed real s*** thus leading it to flop.
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    She shouldn’t give in to the GP and have them force her into a #1’s era. After all, when does the GP know what they want

  19. FutureCiara January 22, 2015

    I agree with JOE the most. She better slay those pre-recorded vocals, Because if she attempts to sing live every night, depending on how long the run will be, She could severely damage her vocal chords further, and God knows that wont be cute.

    • BeyRihLiyah January 22, 2015

      but Ciara’s pre recorded vocals are still fucccked up and at less than one octaves lmaoooo

  20. Theman January 22, 2015

    Mariah being known for her voice is what made her the most successful female ever. Why didn’t you post her Christmas performances? Her voice was very similar to her early work. Slut_Hive you’ve been pummeled in earlier post. Go get Beyonce another number one.. Who are these no name writers on this redundant blog? Mariah gets more comments than these chicks with hits. What do you mean Oh Mariah? Ain’t nothing to Oh for…. She’s good.. Give Beyonce advice on how to score another number one.. You say the same shyt over & over.. Mariah’s Career >>>>>>… Whenever Mariah looks great or does great you’re silent, lil wanna be a** Tmz..

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      Pummeled how? Not by fake ass no life having trolls pretending to be me because they are pissed pressed that I dragged they ass and say what I please. Out of all the comments do you idiots only pay attention to mine? My impact. Oh BTW Beyonce doesn’t need a #1 sweetheart that doesn’t make or break her career. She is not Rihana, who needs them and nor is this 1800 when Mariah sold 10 billion albums. With the horrible quality of songs going #1 today Beyonce is unbothered and still selling just as much or more than the ones with the hits. So I fail to see the shade in that 😀

      • Cough Cough January 22, 2015

        No shade TROLL_HIVE but “Drunk in love” “7/11” “partition” “flawless remix” are all on par with what’s topping the charts today and popular. And I love Queen Bey but facts are facts.

      • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

        R&B and Hip Hop is barely topping the charts, so I don’t get what you mean, and the nerve of you to continue calling call me a troll while trolling. B**** what is your real name on here? smmfh

  21. Theman January 22, 2015

    None of you were spot on. You all just rambled to sound like you’re in the know. You need clicks & are short on story’s..

  22. TheElusiveLamb January 22, 2015

    I agree with not one of you. I agree with me (Mariah) opinion. Vegas is a great thing for her. In a world where everyone is hating and criticizing her EVERY move, this will add some type of stability for her life. This is why I have my VIP ticket for June & July. And I can’t at the Shade pretending that Celine and my beloved Whitney did Janet Jackson choreography on stage. 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql2bV8ahMYw&sns=em

  23. Theman January 22, 2015

    She sold two million measley a** units. You got embarrassed. And it was hilarious. Shut up sometimes you talk too much. When you’re as hyped as she is you should be able to sale singles/albums see her Superior King Taylor lol.. The 1800’s was the last time Beyonce had a #1 hit. She’s a controversy artist. That album been stuck for months. Now she out here throwing 7/11 jingles.. Lol.. Front loaded.. She had better be grateful for that lil fake a** visual stunt that she pulled. That hype helped sale that mediocrity..

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      No babe I did not get embarrassed by someone using a fake account to come for me. That is only flattery and shows how much impact I have on these lonely girls lives. I laugh at how ya’ll are so bothered by my opinion. kiii This is a blog. Why do I need to shut up tho? #Pressed

      Since when is 2 Million measley in this current industry? You are a hater. Who else is doing that besides Taylor? Since you like to brag on #1 singles, it’s not Rihanna either. Beyonce has a double platinum album, two platinum singles and a gold single. She is doing just fine focusing on the entire body of work, instead of singles that will burn out in weeks. No everyone could pull off the surprise album like Beyonce. You have to be a respected artist to do what she did. Ther was no hype. All she did was press send on itunes, and the world STOPPED, carry on! Ya’ll just mad cuz Mariah is done! No need to mention her ancient number 1’s and album sales. She still thirsty for mo! Time to hang it up! 😀

  24. Theman January 22, 2015

    Lol now Beyonce doesn’t need number ones? Bullshyt …. Justin, Adele, Taylor & Pink sale both.. Their overhyped peer should be able to do both also..

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      NO she doesn’t need one idiot. Her albums are still selling. People are still paying to see her in concert. So no she doesn’t need them. That won’t make or break her career obviously! LOL

      • Rihanna #1 fan t January 24, 2015

        lol its Beyonce of course she wil still sell out shows… Its Beyonce for crying out loud whose not gonna go to the show

  25. Mark111 January 22, 2015

    Ok I’m going to say it. MC was never a touring act, at least not a great one. But this is a great move, heck, lip sync the fvck out on that stage, Britney do, J.Lo will, Dion does it. This bizz isn’t not for women, at least not kind to them. She have children to raise, so staying in one city will be great. Tours is the main way artist gets money now, so go for it. She should had done this a few years ago and retired, that would’ve kept her status as Mariah forever. Jordan, Jay Z and Em did it.

  26. Theman January 22, 2015

    Mariah’s over but you’re the first one in each of her threads. Lol you been a fan. Justin sold more, Pink sold more ww with her album & singles & so did Taylor. Beyonce isn’t the blueprint. Two million is decent for an artist of her caliber not outstanding. She should do a single with Taylor. She could use it. You have no impact. You always aim but miss the mark. A for effort though.. She’s getting gold & platinum singles but they aren’t charting high. Lol the irony.. The Super Bowl was all the hype that Beyonce needed. She used that to tour a thousand times lol. Get in the know.. How’s that album doing recently? Haha.. Hit pop singles would help her album sales also..

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      LOL Mariah is over. Me being the first one in ONE of her posts has nothing to do with that fact. I didn’t buy her album, like the rest of the world.

      Beyonce hasn’t been promoting like Taylor and the rest of the girls. Taylor literally had to work for her album sales. She promoted EVERYWHERE. Beyonce only did the grammys and 8 months later did the VMA’s. Beyonce’s singles have not been promoted. Drunk in Love peaked at #2 from only one performance. 7/11 is in the top twenty and she has done no promo. ALL of her singles except pretty hurts was number 1 on the R&B chart. Just imagine if she was desperate for hits like the other girls( who need them to sell), and did more promoting. She would have more hits, but that’s not important to Beyonce. She sold an R&B/Hip Hop album and charted high with an R&B single. Her impact is undeniable and if she actually cared to compete, she would sell more. She stated that the current industry is more concerned with singles than the actual album. Justin had to release TWO albums and only sold 6 million. Beyonce’s album is still in the top 30 of the albums chart over a year later. STOP IT
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      And I have to have some kind of impact. you h*** pay attention to every comment that I make. Making entire posts about me. You even addressed me in your comment. You’ve done that several times. If I’m such a nobody, don’t worry about what I say. k?

      • Rih/Bey/Nicki January 22, 2015

        Well Damn READDD !!!

  27. Stephy Jackson January 22, 2015

    This Post Was Truly Dumb

    • Mya Carey January 29, 2015

      Hey stephy! It’s Mya from Twitter!!!

  28. Arianator Barb January 22, 2015

    at the 99¢ only stores they sell Lady Gaga toothbrushes, they play bad romance and born this way

  29. Terny January 22, 2015

    Who cares what 4 salty, thirsty drag Queens think about Mariah’s career decisions? Fact still remains,she’s a living legend who done it All with nothing left to prove .. When will your less than average “faves” smh… 25 years and Still relevant… #QUEEN

  30. Theman January 22, 2015

    Sam likes to make nothing out of nothing.. This post is very pointless.. Sam is the biggest Mariah/Rihanna fan. He despises them because His favorite artist can’t score any number ones lol. And they’re more interesting..

  31. Theman January 22, 2015

    Mariah won’t ever be over, but Beyonce scoring hit singles from this era is haha. People cared more about the way she released the album rather than the basic music on it. As usual she cut,copied & pasted most of this crap. Mariah’s net worth will continue to grow, and you’ll stay delusional.. Justin’s first release sold over 2.5 million, more than Beyonce, he also had more legit hit singles than she did also. That first album sold 4.5, 5 million units. He also sold way more units than her in his first week, close to a million to be exact. She hasn’t ever. Keep going???? Stop setting yourself & Beyonce up for failure. Her stats are subpar in the grand scheme of it all.. Also, Taylor’s sold a million plus with each of her last three album. Beyonce hasn’t once, work or no work Beyonce still couldn’t do it. Her album sales are basic like her writing skills & that’s putting it lightly.. “DIL” was hit due to streaming, not sales nor AirPlay. Pop radio could careless, that why she doesn’t lol.. She promoted the crap out of her previous albums & they didn’t sale out of this world. Her visual gimmick helped this album, that’s it….

  32. Theman January 22, 2015

    Everyone of these dudes who wrote these shitty articles are Beyonce fans. Lol enough said. Why don’t they discuss ways for her to score pop hits? Why didnt they talk about how at least three or four of her singles have been flops..

  33. Theman January 22, 2015

    Furthermore, the world & more have brought two hundred million Mariah albums. What about your girl as a “Soloist”? Lol utterly laughable.. That 7/11 shyt is crap, she stay trying to keep up with Rihanna lol..

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      Beyonce is from this generation not the 1800’s when the internet and illegal downloading wasn’t around. Sad that Barbara Streisand can still go platinum and Mariah can’t :(. Why is that?

  34. Theman January 22, 2015

    Remember how Pepsi said that this would be her biggest era yet. Lol What good stuff were they on?

  35. Theman January 22, 2015

    You being one of the first ones to comment shows that you are interested. No wonder you’re a Beyonce fan. Slow just like…. Lol

    • Slay_Hive January 22, 2015

      No I was interested in throwing shade and speaking my mind. Seems like you’re bothered tho. I can care less about Mariah. I haven’t bought an album from her since The Emancipation, I rarely listen to her music and I’m not paying to see her struggle with her notes live. I’m not interested. 😉

  36. Theman January 22, 2015

    Your shade is as tired as Beyonce’s music, image & gimmicks. Who cares what you bought? MC certainly doesn’t. Her latest concert received rave reviews. Keep struggling & reaching. Mariah > Whoever.. She’ll continue being the most successful female singer ever, while you’ll stay a bum on ThatTartJuice. Lol Many of the things that you say are baseless anyway. You nor Beyfraud is ruffling anyone’s feathers. Move on..

  37. SLAYRIAH CAREY (TOUR DE FORCE) January 22, 2015

    Beyonce fans stay saying that she’s “winning” yet they are the same h*** who are bothered the most. Quite ironic

  38. SLAYRIAH CAREY (TOUR DE FORCE) January 22, 2015

    Spending all these hours on Mariah’s post yet she’s “done”? Also very interesting that you mentioned “ancient #1s” when all of BoreYonce’s #1 songs were in the 2000s.

  39. SLAYRIAH CAREY (TOUR DE FORCE) January 22, 2015

    Oops… Not “all of”. I should’ve said “few” considering that she doesn’t have that many.

  40. Theman January 22, 2015

    “TEOM” outsold all of Beyonce’s albums ever. Next excuse? Usher, Adele, Carrie & Taylor all have albums that have outsold Beyonce’s first one & the ones soon after.. Excuses 1 million? Beyonce’s dry humping doesn’t impress people who are well versed in music. And you do not fall in the well versed category.. 1800 was the last space in which mainstream radio cared about the “Glorified Stripper”.. Bow out & help Beyonce to learn the alphabet. Blue Ivy already beat her to it..

    • SLAYRIAH CAREY (TOUR DE FORCE) January 22, 2015

      Please don’t waste time on that irrelevant creature. Beyonce is “King” yet all of her albums failed to sell 5 million while Mariah has achieved that 5 times. Beyonce is stale and delayed. After the tragedy of 4lop she had to come up with a major marketing tactic to sell her new album which lasted for a few weeks then sales started to stall. Besides, the album’s success is local AF considering that it sold over 2 million in the US but sold 3.5 WW. Even after that slutty ass performance at the Grammys, Drunk in Love still FAILED to hit #1 and still hasn’t reached 2X platinum. Her little fans need to have several and stop acting like she’s conquering s*** when other artists are slaying her left and right.

      • Sass January 23, 2015

        Fake troll alert. Wern’t you stanning for ‘Queen Bey’ a few weeks ago. No matter what you say, Beyonce had the bestselling, most acclaimed album for the most part of 2014. What other artist went platinum (yet alone multiplatinum) last year besides Taylor? No international promo (besides one performance), no singles focus and she still got 2 platinum singles out of it. You pressed panninis always wanna find a way to discredit her. Lames need to get out of that old school mindset its not a good look. Beyonce is winning.

  41. Theman January 23, 2015

    ^^^^ You said it All LoooooooooooL………. “Drowned In Lust” was a hit due to streaming. She’s a gimmick just like many other artist. She just has smart people slaving for her.. She understood that she couldn’t move those units without that marketing ploy.

    • Sass January 23, 2015

      How do you know she couldnt have moved those units? If she pushed a single the traditional way it could have helped her even more. Beyonces album was highly anticipiated the whole year. You people are so stupid you even think you have telekentic powers.

  42. Jewel January 23, 2015

    Mariah fans are so pressed about Beyonce lmao.

  43. Theman January 23, 2015

    Sour_Shyt started something that “It” couldn’t finish. You don’t see people that don’t care about Beyonce in her threads unless it’s stupid Stan shyt….

    • Sass January 23, 2015

      What did he start? You’re just seething over the shade threw which is nothing but the truth. Beyonce is the one who brings the most hits to this site. Try again.

  44. Indie January 23, 2015

    Already planning on flying from UK with my bests to see Queen Mariah! Legend, ya’ll can write your essays,She has done what is right for her! She’s a legend, a mother of 2 young kids and is about to go through a divorce, what is right for her right now is staying in a stable environment for her family and performing her ass off in a beautiful city and getting paid! I’m sure she will record a stella album whilst she’s at it, more power to her, when you all want tp put her down remember this, some of our greatest legends are no longer here anymore because this business turned them crazy and they turned to drugs and are no longer here. Mariah is still her making music and selling out tours with beautiful kids and looking even more stunning with age, more power to her!

  45. Sass January 23, 2015

    Death. It only takes one Hive member to throw some shade and the Lames get their panties in a twist. You know good and damn well Beyonce has made her mark for this generation, there is nothing basic about her achievments.. no time time machine can change that. Its no longer the nineties.

  46. Sass January 23, 2015

    As for Mariah, get those coins. Hopefully she can take good care of her voice for this.

  47. Dossome January 23, 2015

    Wait,Mariah sells an average 500,000 albums worldwide in catalog sales on a dull year.The Emancipation of Mimi is the bestselling RnB album of the last 10yrs.Whether you all like it or not,she is here to stay.

  48. MariahIsMusic1 January 23, 2015

    MC Stans need to calm TF down sigh, this is not about beyonce its about the queen. Yall sound bitter rn!!

  49. MariahIsMusic1 January 23, 2015

    I’m not here for beyhive shading MC too, both bey & MC love each other there’s no point in fighting.

  50. JOHNVIDAL January 23, 2015

    Sam always so out of touch! LOL The other 3 said it better.
    Sam: Britney´s residency has made Vegas fresh? What? At least Joe adnowledges it all changed thanks to Celine´s impressive runs.
    Anyway, if Mariah lips a lot in all those concert it will be the normal thing, just like Celine does, Cher does, Britney does,… it´s impossible to sing those songs (Celine´s or Mariah´s) every night after so many years. Plus Mariah sings live a bigger part of her shows than Celine Dion (no shade, I love her, another true slayer) and definitely than the others who just lip the entire thing (despite not being as demanding vocally).

    PS: I didn´t know Shania Twain had been doing Vegas too recently. I thought she was retired here in Europe since 2004 🙂 Wasn´t she releasing an album like 2 years ago? Where is it? Why doesn´t Sam stay writing essays about her or her delays? Or any other artist? Only always Mariah? Cause these are the people who were topping when Mariah was at her peak, not the rest you want to compare her to. You are so bitter about Mariah´s greatness and impressive longevity on the charts.

  51. let’s be real January 23, 2015

    i wouldnt pay to see Mariah live and i LOVE HER! but ive been to see her and it was quite boring minus the banter and chatter and of course the crowd was full of the cutest guys in the world lol shes the last of a dying breed of the STAND STILL singers. nowadays kids cant even begin to appreciate vocal artistry when they think and no shade to Rihanna, that people like Rihanna and Nicki are “great singers” and “vocalist”. No. Beyonce is a vocalist but will be put in that MJ,Tina Turner, Prince box where people neglect the fact that yes they put on EXCELLENT SHOWS but they were also top notch vocalist. Mariah despite her voice changing is A TOP NOTCH freaking vocalist and i will buy albums but see her live?not for me.

  52. Lax January 23, 2015

    If u have windows, I highly suggest avoiding this site. It’s given my hp a virus twice. I recommend downloading a anti-virus product before coming here again! Just saying, I rarely use this thing, it had to come from this site.

  53. Theman January 23, 2015

    Beyonce is basic. Her hype & image override more than anything else..

    • LDN Chick January 23, 2015

      Image? Beyonce is one artist who relies the least on her image. She cant help shes prwmetty but her image has barely changed since 03. You just said her image was tired. And hype is the sign of someone who still appeals to the masses, 2 decades later I think Beyonce has proved its more than hype lol

      • LDN Chick January 23, 2015

        *Pretty*

    • LDN Chick January 23, 2015

      I seriously cant believe you just said that about image. How the hell does it override her talent? Please elaborate. Strip Beyonce of her image (which really isn’t a prominent aspect in her career), shes still a great performer who ticks all the boxes. And then I re read your comments defending Rihanna. The double standards. THAT is someone who relies on image not Beyonce. And that is someone who is basic. Her fashion overrides any musicality and why people call her a model with a mic. Seriously, you people need some psycological help your arguments just don’t make any sense.

  54. Michael January 23, 2015

    @Slay_Hive u still running your mouth? Where is @TheElusiveLamb at so they can draaaaag yur ass like they did on another post to you? lolol

  55. LDN Chick January 23, 2015

    I would’t pay to see her live. Boring. Mariah is one who should be kept in headphones and speakers. Shes not a performer. But good luck to her!

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