From Gangster Rapper to Prime time actor, Ice T is one of a few Rappers to have successfully made the transition from being solely a Hip Hop staple to becoming a well recognized Pop culture figure.
Launching a documentary named ‘The Art Of Rap’ on June 15th, the E! star sat down with Rolling Stone magazine to discuss the release but found himself answering questions on Pop Princess Nicki Minaj.
His comments below…
When quizzed on the ongoing debate surrounding Minaj’s credibility as a Hip Hop act, he explained:
A good emcee will rhyme a lot of different ways. Don’t limit yourself. Maybe on this record, you’re on something a little bit different, a little house-y, and then for this one you go to DJ Premier for some real hardcore beats, or then you have that big, super, grand DJ Khaled production that’s so incredible.
You gotta learn how to change your flow so you’re not doing the same thing over and over again.
Then on the pressure on Rappers to ‘stay street’, he said the following:
It’s fake. Me, I’ve always tried to stay current with my life. As my life grew, my raps grew with it. Rap is like any other art form. There will be critics.
For Rosenberg to step out and make that statement, we know people will say, “You out of pocket anyway. You a Jewish kid trying to talk about hip-hop and its realness.” He’s probably taking a shitstorm of hell, like, “What do you know about real hip-hop?” I know Rosenberg and he’s what you call a hip-hop head – he knows hip-hop backwards and forwards. There’s always going to be that dilemma.
Me, I think it all comes from the same seed.
Preach ! Nicki has Talent She’s just not using it right. That is all !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgcxC5cTPAA
carboncopyqueen.
You keep postin this video on every post, we get it, just deal with it.
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wow madonna a copycat h**…its scary
Nicki is very talented, lazy but very talented. When your arch nemesis (Kim) says you’re not wack, that means a lot. & I still think she had the best verse on Monster, idc idc idc idc!
NIC IS NOT LAZY.
The Monster track was the only good thing she did.
Where’s the slam?! He just agreed with Rosenberg, who DIDN’T even slam Nicki, he slammed Starships.
It sounds more like he said that people could judge Rosenberg the same way and ask him why he’s even talking hip hop when he’s some white Jewish kid. Ice T is saying its not about that, he knows and loves hip hop and that Nicki, like Rosen, are how the art and image of hip hop is changing.
@Those That Cannot Do, Stan Replied Nicki is not hip hop.There a difference between Pop and Hip Hop.Stop trying to combine the two.
Nicki minaj Is the reason I checked for females again She made it fun she didn’t have to be all Up in our face bout sucking d*** to get attention I love her and missy they so innovative and everything they do is HOT and gets my attention I like Trina and Lil kim but I’ve never really went out and bought one of their albums same goes for eve! I own every nicki and Missy album you know why? Cus they switch it up? I’m so tired of rappers doing the same thing over and over look at eminem His HUGE why? Cus he SWITCHED it up even TI got one of his greatest albums when he did “paper trail”
If you never bought a Kim or Eve album you never liked them to begin with.Every Eve and LIl Kim album sh*ts on both Nicki’s albums.
Sam the editor Denounces Christ everytime he praises Nicki Minaj….That is his God he serves her bidding well. Serve Nicki…Hail Nicki our lord and savior….U cant serve two Gods Sammy!!!!!!!
woaaaaaaaaah this is deep….That FAKE JUICE IS CENTERED AROUND NICKI MINAJ….HER REIGN WILL SOON COME TO AN END….BUT RIGHT NOW SHE IS THE DEVILS SERVANT, SHE HAS TO REIGN SUPREME……THESE PEOPLE WORSHIP THIS DEMONIC ENTITY AND DEFEND HER EVIL….SAM WILL ROT IN HELL WITH HER…
Yeah she’s okay but she still sorta bubblegum and gimmicky sometimes. I liked her from 2009 to 2010 the most. After that her raps got awful.
Raps?
Oh. Nevermind.
*sips tea*
he better f****** preach, you cant stay with one style it gets boring
I agree with one style but the only person I wished would stay with one style and still stay epic and classic is Brandy with her classic braids. I wished she’d plat her hair in Braids instead of lacefront or wig but then again you can always have one you want right..lol
All Nicki songs are starting to sound the same.NO substance.
Reading is sooo fundamental!
THE FACT IS NICKI MADE A BIG MISTAKE BUY ABANDONING HER CORE AUDIENCE CSE I DNT THINK THE WHITES HAVE TAKEN TO HER AS MUCH AS SHE AND A LOTTA PPL THOUGHT UNFORTUNATLEY THERES NO GOIN BACK FOR HER SHE STARTED TO BELIEVE HER OWN HYPE AND NOW SHE EATEN A WHOLE LOAD OF HUMBLE PIE PERSONALLY I LIKE A FIRST ALBUM BUT THIS NEW S*** IS WACK AS HELL AMERICA IS WERE HER MAIN AUDIENCE IS AND CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG I DNT THINK HER ALBUM IS DOIN THAT WELL IN AMERICA BUT AS THEY SAY PRIDE COMES BEFORE A FALL SHE NEEDS TO HUMBLE HERSELF AND REALISE SHE AINT THAT SPECIAL U CAN STEAL CROSSOVER BUT DNT LOSE THE PPL THAT CAME UP WITH U CSE U NVR KNW WHATS ON THE OTHER SIDE
To be absolutely frank they’ve taken to her more. Comparing the endorsement deals, magazine covers and product branding…waaaaay more from what you’d consider ‘white’ companies than black ones.
Home girl does have her checks coming in from them endorsements. And that ho better get that paper, cause them album sales aren’t the business. Record companies are fickle and they will drop yo ass so quick especially when you are new. Nicki turned her back on her core base to go straight to the new pop-base. But you better ask Britney, the pop world has NO LOYALTY.
Exactly, Nicki is smart and creative and knows how SWITCH UP her style. like she said in monster “why these n***** so one-track minded” you guys say shes pop but what does that really mean,that shes not a rap artist? correct me if im wrong but she RAPS on EVERY SINGLE “pop” hit shes released, features and all. so when she is considered “pop” is it because she raps to a non hip-hop beat or what?? i mean help me understand because that last question falls into what Ice-T was saying, staying the same gets boring. good day!
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“you guys say shes pop but what does that really mean,that shes not a rap artist?”
Yes, that’s exactly what it means. Nicki “raps” the same way Flo Rida, Pitbull and the guys from LMFAO “rap.” It’s pop. It ain’t hip hop. It’s whitewashed for the mainstream and is corny. All Nicki is is a rapping version of Katy Perry, and years from now when she’s long past her peak and her audience has moved on, no one will respect her time on top, because of just how watered down pop it was.
That’s racist
The’s a difference between Hip Hop and Rap.Dumb@**.Stay in school.
F*** NICKI MINAJ……THE ILLUMINATI GOT HER!!!!! THIS B**** AINT EVEN HUMAN….I LIKE THAT COMMENT ABOVE BY “I BOW TO NO FALSE GOD”. I AINT NO CHRISTIAN ALL LIKE DAT BUT, ITS FUCKN SCARY HOW YALL WORSHIP THESE ARTIST AND WOULD DIE FOR THEM…NICKI MINAJ HAS BRAIN WASHED AN ENTIRE GENERATION….AND YALL TOO FUCKN DUMB TO SEE DAT S***…..LOLOLOL “ALL HAIL NICKI”
Nicki’s getting a lot of grief because she’s pushing to define hip hop and female rap as something that’s not yet acceptable.
We have people playing that idea of the fake ‘hood’ image like Rick Ross or 50Cent and all they do is use and manipulate the public to get money. Meanwhile they’re soft as taffy. But someone like Minaj who openly chooses to be different is crucified.
Reality, she appeals to where the world is going. Rap isn’t just for black kids, you don’t have to rap only about riding d*** and giving up your p****, you can like pop and rap and it can be on the same album and yes…you can be yourself and not do the ‘hood’ image to fit in.
We’ve got Kanye West, Childish Gambino and so many others and still people want to pretend that things aren’t changing in the world. Dumb.
Its not about her rapping pop. “Moment 4 Life” is a pop-rap song. Nicki still got Airplay, it was a hit, and well received. They problem is her current music is garbage. It’s not focused and run of the mill. And she believe the public should just accept it. Well, no, we don’t. Rap Pop all day, just be GOOD pop. You think people in the hood weren’t buying Fergie’s album? Why? BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD MUSIC. “Stupid h**” and “starships” are garbage to most Hip Hop fans
…My Humps and London Bridge are real music…?
Nah it’s the same s***, just one outta black chick and another out a white chick.
Vici, All those songs went #1’s and they all slay nicki’s non-number 1. Sorry.
Nicki Music is wack which is the problem.Not her doing POP.
Yall is crazy, but it is something to think about….its like Nicki gave her soul to Satan with that lame ass performance on the Grammy awards for fame…now she possessed with a demon named Roman Zolanski, now you got people runnin all over the place talkn bout they got a demon name Roman…. Take a look for yourself shes a demon http://youtu.be/QGX58rQBfi0
it’s right in front of peoples eyes in they still don’t see it..just google some pics of her..she’s throwin up the illuminati sign..and the eye sign is painted on her leg..
Take that Church s*** on sum where….if they want to worship LADY MINAJ its a free country….but s*** got me thinking word the f*** up…LMAO TGJ do be worshiping that stupid h**
I think Nicki is basically a sellout and a fraud. She’s about as hip hop as Justin Bieber and makes a mockery out of the female emcee. I’m trying to imagine MC Lyte, Yo-Yo, Queen Latifah, Da Brat, Lauryn Hill, Eve, Lil Kim or Foxy Brown doing a song like “Starships.” Nah, that would have never happened. Salt N Pepa and Missy Elliott crossed over and were ‘pop-accessible,’ but still managed to keep the basis of what they did hip-hop based….which is something that Nicki does not do. Nicki is just basically going along with this gay ass electro-dance wave to sell records. There’s no sincerity in her, and that’s why she’ll eventually fail.
im so sick of discussions about Titty Minaj, she prolly is the devil….f*** that c*** # Team Kim all day
^^^^ If u so sick of these discussions why the phuckery u taking time to come in here and take more time to post this and I’m sure u taking more time to see any response to ur shyt comment to maybe respond and thus take more time to post again and continue to be in this Minaj post even though u sick of this discussion .? ……
Shut the f*** up (Boomastic) and go take your place in Hell (VIP) style with all the other Nicki Minaj Stans…u speak when spoken to #GO KILL YOURSELF #DIE MUTHA FUCKA DIE…
Shady B**** cussed yo ass out….hahaha
I thought Nicki was the female Kanye?
lololololololololololololololol i wouldnt have the balls to comment on That Grape Juice after being called a Nicki/Devil worshiper -_______________- Chile pleaz
Stans need fall back
There is a reason all these female MC’s (Eve, Foxy, Lil’ Kim. Da Brat, etc) flopped and flopped hard. What Nicki is doing is adapting to current music trends. Artists that do this tend to last longer on the music scene whereas artists that do the same boring garbage over and over again tend to be FLOP bitter old b****** who release Black Friday on PayPal. Nicki is alright, she is just following current music trends and there is nothing wrong with that.
HONEY..WHAT NICKI IS DOING IS POP! ANDSHE’S FAILING MISERABLY….HER PINK FRIDAY ALBUM WAS ASUCCCESS BECAUSE SHE HADTHE HIP HOP WORLD WIT HER…NOW NOBODY’S OFF THAT S***…SHE THOUGHT THE WHITE B****** WOULD BY THE ALBUM AND THEY DIDNT…SOOOOOO SHEBASICALLY…ABANDONED HER URBAN FANBASE…POSSIIBLY TO THEPOINT OF NO RETURN!
Eve had her own show, grammy’s, and #1 movies.
Kim had all that as well. Maybe not the #1 movie.
Da Brat really isn’t iconic nor is Foxy but them whores did their thing. End of the day, Nicki is still “new” but she old as f*** for hip hop (30) especially only being on her second album. Its an up hill battle especially when she insist on releasing wack ass music like (insert any song off Roman Reloaded)
Please. Take your head out of your behind. What Nicki is doing is playing follow-the-leader. That’s all. She’s not innovating a damn thing or pushing anything forward. No female rapper with a real love and respect for this thing called Hip Hop would dare make a bubblegum pop record that sounds damn near interchangeable with Carly Rae Jepsen or The Wanted.
Furthermore, Eve, Foxy, Kim, Brat were all selling as many records as Nicki (if not, more) is now during their respective peaks. The only difference is that they didn’t have to sell out to do it. Can you imagine if Eve or Kim rapped to tracks that could have shopped to Backstreet Boys or O-Town, simply because they were popular at the time?
How old are you, 12?! All of those female rappers who you ignorantly/childishly disparaged may be past their commercial peaks now and unable to sell as much as Nicki is today, but they contributed to real Hip Hop (not Pop-Rap) during their apex, and because of that they have a respect that Nicki will never have ten years down the line, when she’ll be unable to sell her damn self. Nicki may be having her moment now, but mark my word: history is not going to be kind to her “legacy.”
You’ve pointed out one important thing MsThing485 which is “during their time or prime or whatever”. The important thing is the Hip Hop of the Eve’s, Foxy..etc does not sell today because no one is buying that. Everyone is buying what you call “bubblegum pop”. If people were still buying the boring old “real hip hop”, Nas’ new stuff would be in the top ten right now but it’s not. Music trends have changed and it is stupid to expect music artists not to change.
Your logic is baffling, it is like saying just because once upon a time a Nokia 3310 used to sell well, they should keep on producing it. Never mind the innovations in smart phones no, because that old phone used to sell well, Nokia should keep on producing it.
R&B artists like Usher, Chris the woman beater Brown are all doing what you refer to “bubblegum pop” because that is what people are buying today. Music is a BUSINESS and not a charity organization, artists will follow the money whether you piraters (not a real word) call them sell outs or not. They have to sell their music. Bubblegum pop is in right now and Nicki is doing the right thing by following current market trends. There is nothing wrong with that, it is simply GOOD BUSINESS
Beyonce’s Track, Chris Brown and Usher aren’t who we are talking about. And none of them are on a Sophmore album are they? R&B and Pop are easier to mix than Hip Hop and Pop, lets not be stupid our whole lives. And Chris Brown is most likely going to have a flop album just like usher this time around so those were wack ass reasons you provided.
Nicki’s musical quality is nonexistent and thats why, OUTSIDE OF STARSHIPS no other song on her new album is doing s*** on any other chart. And thats a fact.
And yet Scream by Usher is in the top ten and many other songs you call “bubblegum pop” TARBABY RANGER.
The fact remains no one is making the “old school hip hop” or “real hip hop” (whatever it is you’re calling it) because no one is buying it just like an 80s style record would not sell in the 90s. It is simply evolving music trends. Artists that ADAPT to current music trends last longer than artists that do not.
Girl, nicki is switching to this white washed pop cuz she’s running out of ideas. She’s a fad. I’m pretty sure if ppl are slowly forgetting about her with her sophomore album I can only imagine what will happen on her third!
Beyonce’s Wig cap. Never have I called anything “Bublegum Pop”, thats a phrase you keep using. The correct term is “Urban Pop”. and none of what you said has touched on anything i said. I said her issue isnt that she is indulging in urban pop, her issue is her musical content is terrible.
LEAVE ITTO SAM TO NOT REPORT THE ENTIRE QUOTE…HE ALSO GAVE NICKI HER PROPS BUT SAID SHE IS DEF NO LIL KIM….WHICH SHE ISNT….KIM IN HER PRIME IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNTOUCHABLE…NO RAP B****,PAST OR PRESENT WILL BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THAT…WHO SHE IS NOW IS A DIFF STORY…HOWEVER LOOK LIKE MONEY *N DEAD GIRL WALKING SEEM TO BE VERY PROMISING…SOOOOO ONLY TIMEWILL TELLL….
Ay YO Beyonces Weave!!!? SHUT THE F*** UP!!!! u make no sense ya stank p**** h**
OK. who insulted her doing pop music, nobody, but if someone dare ask her about her new album/song she will look the person straight in the eye and try to say “Starships” is rap.
She is lying and sneaky with her “widening of her brand” too bad, she could of dominate rap, then switched over more subtly with a songs more like turn me on, even tho it sucked it had the right feel!
Busta Rhyme was pure hip hop, yes busta was always a little outrageous with the costumes and his videos but this n**** stayed spitting. oh my goodness when that dude touched a stage. Game over. I never heard starships from a busta Rhyme and i probably never will.
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You’ve pointed out one important thing MsThing485 which is “during their time or prime or whatever”. The important thing is the Hip Hop of the Eve’s, Foxy..etc does not sell today because no one is buying that. Everyone is buying what you call “bubblegum pop”. If people were still buying the boring old “real hip hop”, Nas’ new stuff would be in the top ten right now but it’s not. Music trends have changed and it is stupid to expect music artists not to change.
Your logic is baffling, it is like saying just because once upon a time a Nokia 3310 used to sell well, they should keep on producing it. Never mind the innovations in smart phones no, because that old phone used to sell well, Nokia should keep on producing it.
R&B artists like Usher, Chris the woman beater Brown are all doing what you refer to “bubblegum pop” because that is what people are buying today. Music is a BUSINESS and not a charity organization, artists will follow the money whether you piraters (not a real word) call them sell outs or not. They have to sell their music. Bubblegum pop is in right now and Nicki is doing the right thing by following current market trends. There is nothing wrong with that, it is simply GOOD BUSINESS
once again @Beyonce’s Weave shut ur mouth and ur c****** flap, cause u got them legs wide open 4 Bitchy Minaj…
@Titty titty bang bang – B**** SIT. It looks like your short, fat, p** like leader Lil Krim taught you well. All you seem to talk about is b**** this and c****** that. It would seem that you got Krim’s grey pubic hairs caught in ya teef since you talk about p**** so much. Here’s a clue? Brush your teeth before you open ya f***** mouth and get a life. Matter of fact, keep kissing Lil’ Krim’s fake deformed ass, iight?
@brooke because Nicki’s ass is real? Have a seat.
You are spot on, and don’t t’hink these music experts on this blog don’t know it either. Why they think Kim aint selling s*** too? Cause she stuck in the 90’s thats why. She trying to please so called ‘real hip hop’ fans who still aint buying her s***. At present dance music is in so the artistes will #FollowTheMoney. It’s only good business, ppl stay thinking music is just for THEIR entertainment. It’s a business!
Both Ice-T and Nicki are sell-outs.
I think you conveniently FORGOT where he said “she’s good but she’s no Lil’ Kim.”
http://allhiphop.com/2012/06/12/hip-hop-rumors-ice-t-says-nicki-minaj-aint-no-lil-kim/
http://www.taletela.com/news/16648/ice-t-nicki-minaj-is-the-female-busta-rhymes
Ice-T Says Nicki Minaj Can Rhyme, “But She’s No Lil Kim”: Ice-T says Nicki Minaj has an “ill voc… http://bit.ly/MHkLKV
This is sick why when dark skin female rappers come out know one was gloryfying them like mc lite rah diggah etc..but if their high yellow mixed downing our people and misguiding our youth with lick my a*** atics and sexually overcharge songs you guys praise these mix yellows people please at least a dark women wont degrade our culture
All these rich rappers yellow included mix included make me sick yall dont give a __about destroying our cultural degrading our women men rap turn into sodom and gomorror you sick rapperd need to respect old school rap and go back to old school rap to teach you to stop enslaving our people now we have strippers showing coohie and selling it in media im sorry white masters I mean white people for us being bad maybe use let the yellow one in masta we darkies would follow behind and worships the mix and light ones masta cause we stupid masta we too poor and will spend our last that we save for grits to see these yellow bones mix ones masta