Advertisement

Welcome to the new ThatGrapeJuice.net

More than just a facelift, we're now bringing you all things Urban Pop in a radically refreshed way. Click here to read more! Read More.

Music

Mathew Knowles Slams The Handling Of Beyonce’s ’4′

mathew knowles Mathew Knowles Slams The Handling Of Beyonces 4

In what will sure to be having many a music critic whispering and wondering about for years to come, Beyonce‘s former manager and father has slammed her new team for whom he says are to blame for the setbacks her latest LP ’4‘ has faced.

Suggesting that the only reason the album sold what it did was due to his daughter’s star power and not the efforts of a well orchestrated plan.

This comes just days after it was revealed that the ‘Single Ladies‘ starlet had allegedly parted with her father’s management over claims that he was stealing money from her.

Find out more below…

Speaking to the Associated Press on her new LP, he admitted:

“”They put out the record in a vacuum, it makes you believe that there are some artists that don’t need radio. There are some records that don’t need a record label, and Beyonce is one of those artists.”

Going onto address the issue that Jay Z and others may have conspired to oust him, he revealed:

“The team ironically appeared to be a cross-pollination of Beyonce’s team, Roc Nation’s team, and Live Nation’s team, who ironically have the most to gain.I’ll let people come to their own conclusion. I’m challenging all of these folks on integrity, professional integrity”

Whilst many have been critical of Mr.Knowles’ alleged business dealings in the past, there is no doubt that some fans of his daughter will agree that the release album could have been handed better.

However if Mrs.Carter did indeed part ways with her father over the issue of swindling money from her, it would shine a light on some of the grey areas that so many of her fans were confused about when it was announced she had left Music World.

It would explain why she would leave his management just months before the release of a new album which would have been sure to add an extra if not overbearing stress to the already gruelling task of pushing an LP.

Only time will tell how this saga will play out.

Here’s to hoping that whatever happens, the relationship between Beyonce and her father and most interestingly Jay Z and her father, is not affected negatively by it in the long term.

For Mr.Knowles has admitted that he has not spoken to his daughter since he ceased to serve as her manager.

Source.

Your thoughts?

Dont Forget To Share

147 Comments

  • July 15, 2011 at 7:56 am
    Bryanric says:
    Vote

    This goblin chubacca looking beast…. Ugh

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 7:59 am
    BLACK says:
    Vote

    He was telling the truth….This 4 era promo is not as big as it should be

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:02 am
    Lolita says:
    Vote

    Well maybe he shouldn’t continue to try to make Beyonce keep up with Rihanna. We all know thats what Beyonce’s goal is. She wants to keep up with young beautiful Rihanna. But unfortunately, Beyonce’s vocals and dancing is very mediocre compared to Rihanna’s so she’s failing in the music industry now.

    Jay Z knows that Rihanna is more talented, beautiful, and more alluring than his wife, which is why he’s more supportive of Rihanna’s career.

    Everyone know Rihanna slams Beyonce in every aspect of like so Beyonce might as well go crawling back to her daddy. Because everyone knows Rihanna is dragging this b**** through the mud.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:06 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    WHO CARES?
    THE ALBUM FLOPPED!
    :d

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:08 am
    BLACK says:
    Vote

    @Lolita

    Please sit yo ass down wit that comment

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:09 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    No matter how hard the promo is… everyone is not paying attention (except her fans).
    She needs to bring a new direction in her music.
    All singles flopped and the album is on track to leave Top 10 on iTunes ..sooner than expected.

    They bringing this controversy in order to boost sales. Seriously? Lame idea.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:12 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    @the perrylicious you do thats why your #3 to comment :DD #1 albums are a flop now… Oj

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:12 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    You can tell Rihanna’s voice weaker than Beyonce on stage. But, over than 80% people listening on radio which is Rihanna voice sounds far excellent than Bey. Rihanna doing lot of stuffs,..lot of styles..why Bey fans pressed?
    That’s why Rihanna is #1 among black-female-singer at this moment.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:13 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    @the perrylicious your talking about itunes the album is still #1 thou & sold over 700,000 worldwide… Lol you really need to get a life

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:14 am
    KD says:
    Vote

    The handling and the promotion of the project was not as smooth as we are used to but “4″ is not doing badly by any means. 2weeks @ #1 in both the US and UK (the 2 biggest markets) is commendable, and in any case music artists derive most of their money from touring…so even if this may be her lowest 1st week debut in the US, I doubt she is sweating at all.

    As for Mathew Knowles and Beyonce…something big definitely went down, and as a result I do not see any future resolution between the two. SIGH

    Anyway let me leave this post before the usual suspects (Perrylicious and company) come and taint this post.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:15 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    Rihanna’s Kisses Don’t Lie >>>>>>>>>>>> Bey’s entire catalog

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:15 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    @ THE PERRYLICIOUS IS TAKING OVER… [ THE REAL QUEEN ON 'THAT GRAPE JUICE' ]

    You can tell Rihanna’s voice weaker than Beyonce on stage. But, over than 80% people listening on radio which is Rihanna voice sounds far excellent than Bey. Rihanna doing lot of stuffs,..lot of styles..why Bey fans pressed? That’s why Rihanna is #1 among black-female-singer at this moment


    You make no sense how can someones voice be weaker then stronger its either one or the other no in between

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:16 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    @Stewie

    Rihanna’s LOUD sold over than 5M so far..
    And LOUD debuted with higher sales than 4.
    You mad? :D

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:17 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    Beyonces i was here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rihannas whole life

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:17 am
    Hellen Keller's carpet says:
    Vote

    I have to agree with Matty. The handling of this project was a disaster. I really hope he wasn’t stealing money from her but I read she hired a law firm to audit her money and they confirmed it so who knows. Then on the other hand why would Matt go through all this further humiliation if he isn’t lying.

    I don’t know but beyonce will be okay no matter what. She has reached the point in her career where she is selling off her name alone. And that is commendable.

    Please dont feed the trolls

    *presses play on Dance 4 U*

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:18 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    Bey’s voice may reach high notes, but her voice is flat and boring.
    #fact

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:21 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    @Stewie

    Beyonces i was here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rihannas whole life

    ______________________________________

    Since we are not talking about their ‘life’,..so I guess you agreed when Rihanna’s career shits on Bey. LOL
    Hahaha

    The sad thing about Bey fans, they can’t recognize between ‘career’ and ‘life’.
    Hahaha :D

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:22 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    @the perrylicious
    Rihannas loud been out since november 2010 obviously its gonna sell 5 million being out so long please act like you got some commen sense. & last time i checked rihanna only song 207,000 copies please explain to me in what world she sold more than bey ?? :D

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:24 am
    KD says:
    Vote

    @The Perrylicious is taking over

    You said: No matter how hard the promo is… everyone is not paying attention (except her fans).

    Eh….who buys albums….fans (this applies to all people, why would you support or buy an artists album if you are not a fan???)

    You asked: WHO CARES?

    Clearly you do…you are always on every Beyonce post

    You my dear have continued to prove your stupidity time and time again without fail, I am starting to believe that you are a masochist. I will however commend you on actually trying to write something worthwhile instead on your usual one syllable response c***.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:25 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    @THE PERRYLICIOUS IS TAKING OVER… [ THE REAL QUEEN ON 'THAT GRAPE JUICE' ]

    @Stewie

    Beyonces i was here >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rihannas whole life

    ______________________________________

    Since we are not talking about their ‘life’,..so I guess you agreed when Rihanna’s career shits on Bey. LOL Hahaha
    The sad thing about Bey fans, they can’t recognize between ‘career’ and ‘life’. Hahaha

    ————
    Lol yeah rihanna carrer shits on B in the imaginary world you live in O.ooooo :)

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:25 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    Then let’s wait… 4 will never exceeds 4M worldwide.
    :D

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:26 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    Lol i dont get how you can say nobodys checking for B but the 3rd one commenting on a post that involves her.. makes no sense please somebody explain it too me :’(

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:27 am
    Hellen Keller's carpet says:
    Vote

    The stans argue over the same things everyday on a beyonce post. Literally.

    The same

    Old
    Things

    Numbers

    Chile. I mean come on. This is really starting to drain me about this site lol

    I won’t name name but i don’t c why y’all entertain the foolishness with the same people on every post. Y’all must be kids or something. I digress

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:29 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    Bey fans are too pressed.
    LOL.. she’s doing lot of promo but lack of sales.
    Hahaha
    I just can’t believe that her first and second single flopped hard. Bey fans always talking s*** when other artists re-release their albums,…so let’s see if 4 get re-released or not.

    Ready to eat your shits back? :D
    i hope you-pressed-w**** are ready. :P

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:38 am
    KD says:
    Vote

    I love that #thataintwinning is trending on twitter. Calling someone who is more successful than you a FLOP…#thataintwinning.

    I have said it time and time again that I will not stoop to the gutter and call an artist a flop just because of some manic stan that really has no life outside of stanning, because truth be told Katy Perry, Rihanna and all the other people that PERRYLICIOUS stans for are not the flops but he/she/it on the other hand is. Calling itself the QUEEN of TGJ when in fact it is a flea that irritates most people on the site.

    *takes out pesticide* b**** you are dead to me, I will not feed your obsession anymore and hopefully other people will follow suit…and hopefully in the end you will realize that you are not the queen of anything, but instead a sad, lonely, individual in need of psychiatric help.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:43 am
    Nana Yaw says:
    Vote

    Flopyonce’s ’4′ is 4lopping so hard!

    ’4′ is a 4lop!

    ’4′ is a 4lop!

    ’4′ is a 4lop!

    ’4′ is a 4lop!

    ’4′ is a 4lop!

    ’4′ is a 4lop!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:55 am
    YOOSONDALOOSE says:
    Vote

    Hmmm… wow. That is interesting, damaging stuff right there.
    And ’4′ IMO had the wrong single choices, and is defo more a Album: Album rather than a Single: Album.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:01 am
    kashai says:
    Vote

    LMAO BITCHEZZZZZZ SIT THE f*** DOWN RIHANNA WHO?SINCE BECOME OUT WE COULDNT SEE RIHANNA AHAHAHAHAA U PRESSEDDDDDDD PROSTITUDE MISED THE READ HEAD GOAT ITS TALENT TIME NOT PROSTITUDE TIMEZZZZZZZZ 4 IS SLAYINGGGGGGGGG THE KING BEE PERRYLICIOUS GET A LIFE DUMB f**

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:03 am
    Kellymotivation says:
    Vote

    @ BLACK

    Matthew is not talking about the promotions of “4″ but the quality of the album and song choices….He said they made the album so fast and served it to the public with the wrong singles and management…….Hence, the reason he said the only reason she sold those amount of albums was because “Beyonce” is already a brand name in itself and not because she necessarily delivered

    #PAPA KNOWLES IS ON POINT HERE.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:09 am
    pop royalty says:
    Vote

    HELLEN KELLER’S CARPET
    July 15, 2011 at 8:27 am

    The stans argue over the same things everyday on a beyonce post. Literally.

    The same

    Old
    Things

    Numbers

    Chile. I mean come on. This is really starting to drain me about this site lol

    I won’t name name but i don’t c why y’all entertain the foolishness with the same people on every post. Y’all must be kids or something. I digress

    __________________________________________

    exactly !!!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:12 am
    pop royalty says:
    Vote

    @perrylicious :

    kisses don’t lie !?!!! really boo , seriously really ?!! #bye boo #fly boo ! this album is not considered a rihanna album by 99,999998% of her fans !! #bye

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:18 am
    BLACK says:
    Vote

    who ever calling beyonce album a flop soo delusional..i will not go back and forth on it…stay mad…while yo faves albums stay with them low ass slaes…#BYE

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:19 am
    pop royalty says:
    Vote

    THE PERRYLICIOUS IS TAKING OVER… [ THE REAL QUEEN ON 'THAT GRAPE JUICE' ]
    July 15, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Bey fans are too pressed.
    LOL.. she’s doing lot of promo but lack of sales.
    Hahaha
    I just can’t believe that her first and second single flopped hard. Bey fans always talking s*** when other artists re-release their albums,…so let’s see if 4 get re-released or not.

    Ready to eat your shits back?
    i hope you-pressed-w**** are ready.

    __________________________________________________________

    how old are you ?! BUT YOU WERE HONEST WHEN YOU SAID YOU ARE A QUEEN ! AND LIKE WHAT KATY SAID : ” YOU ARE SO GAY AND U DON’T EVEN LIKE BOYS” !!!!!!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:38 am
    RihannaNAVY says:
    Vote

    FLOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP

    Week #3
    4closure dropped to #5 with Beyonce (Columbia) 65-70k .
    Are u serious? ANOTHER 45% DROP.

    That album will have the shortest shell-life EVER!

    WHAT A DISASTER!

    =====================================================

    And WW, she already dropped 55% to #2 ww & 4closure only sold 232.000 WW on its 2nd week.

    Yall talk all that trash about being #1 in the US & UK for 2 weeks (really by default), yet she CAN’T even be #1 WW for 2 weeks?
    LOUD was #1 WW, for 4 WEEKS!

    4closure???????
    Like I said before that album will NOT reach 1Million in the USA & will DEFINITELY NOT reach 2 Million WW.

    WHAT A FLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:39 am
    pop royalty says:
    Vote

    @BLACK :

    IN @PERRYLICIOUS’S WORLD OF QUEENS BEING #1 IS A FLOP !! AND HE HATE FLOPS , THAT’S WHY HE HATE GAGA AND BEYONCE AND LOVE KATY AND RIHANNA !! LOOLZ !

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:40 am
    rara rara rara says:
    Vote

    @kelly motivation
    Thats exactly what papa knowles is saying
    He is on point plus some bittertness to me

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:53 am
    Jessie says:
    Vote

    Oh COME ON here they go again!! Im a fan of BOTH Beyonce and Rihanna (Yes they do exist) but Beyonce has more talent in her left thumb than Rihanna and everyone knows it!
    All you Rihanna stans claim to “hate” Beyonce but you do realise most of your time is spent talking about her on a Beyonce post, I mean you guys even know the percentage dropped on her album sales!! s***, some Beyonce fans dont even know that s***!! You guys are PATHETIC!! Seriously find a hobby or even better GET A LIFE!! You guys know all that stuff about someone you hate can I say OBSESSED much? Hahahaha you guys are laughable! Just stay mad cause i dont think Beyonce is worried about your hating asses!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:53 am
    stewie says:
    Vote

    @THE PERRYLICIOUS IS TAKING OVER… [ THE REAL QUEEN ON 'THAT GRAPE JUICE' ]

    Bey fans are too pressed. LOL.. she’s doing lot of promo but lack of sales. Hahaha I just can’t believe that her first and second single flopped hard. Bey fans always talking s*** when other artists re-release their albums,…so let’s see if 4 get re-released or not.

    Ready to eat your shits back? i hope you-pressed-w**** are ready.
    ———–

    Lol you seem to know so much about bey do a little more research thou on every beyonce album ever not 1 of her 1st singles charted well people werent feeling deja vu neither if i were a boy or single ladies & look but since you seem so see the future i cant argue. Have a good day thou ::)

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:55 am
    pop royalty says:
    Vote

    RIHANNANAVY
    July 15, 2011 at 9:38 am

    FLOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP

    Week #3
    4closure dropped to #5 with Beyonce (Columbia) 65-70k .
    Are u serious? ANOTHER 45% DROP.

    That album will have the shortest shell-life EVER!

    WHAT A DISASTER!

    =====================================================

    And WW, she already dropped 55% to #2 ww & 4closure only sold 232.000 WW on its 2nd week.

    Yall talk all that trash about being #1 in the US & UK for 2 weeks (really by default), yet she CAN’T even be #1 WW for 2 weeks?
    LOUD was #1 WW, for 4 WEEKS!

    4closure???????
    Like I said before that album will NOT reach 1Million in the USA & will DEFINITELY NOT reach 2 Million WW.

    WHAT A FLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPP !!!!!!!!

    ____________________________________________

    FIRST PERRYLICIOUS AND NOW THIS BOO !! BEYONCE’S POSTS ALWAYS ATTRACT TROLLS ! #JUSTSAYIN’ !

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:57 am
    pop royalty says:
    Vote

    RIHANNANAVY
    July 15, 2011 at 9:38 am

    FLOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPP

    Week #3
    4closure dropped to #5 with Beyonce (Columbia) 65-70k .
    Are u serious? ANOTHER 45% DROP.

    That album will have the shortest shell-life EVER!

    WHAT A DISASTER!

    =====================================================

    And WW, she already dropped 55% to #2 ww & 4closure only sold 232.000 WW on its 2nd week.

    Yall talk all that trash about being #1 in the US & UK for 2 weeks (really by default), yet she CAN’T even be #1 WW for 2 weeks?
    LOUD was #1 WW, for 4 WEEKS!

    4closure???????
    Like I said before that album will NOT reach 1Million in the USA & will DEFINITELY NOT reach 2 Million WW.

    WHAT A FLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPP !!!!!!!!

    ____________________________________________

    #YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN !! BEYONCE’S POSTS ALWAYS ATTRACT TROLLS !!!!!!!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:59 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    All Beyonce stans if you believe and trust beyonce and her music then you do not have to worry about what any nay sayer says! We have 17 and a half months left of promos singles and videos! Stop worrying about Bey y’all she is perfectly fine!… Without Matthew…. he just mad he got disowned by all of DC3 now he has nothing to do!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:03 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    I’m not worried about 4 at all after all she is in the UK still… When she comes to the US it will be a different story! Stop answering trolls and what not it’s ok they have opinions and their purpose is to argue! Just keep it cute guys! #thatisall

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:05 am
    Teyah says:
    Vote

    @RIHANNANAVY

    LMAO your not making sense! so the album spends two weeks at #1 on both the Billboard 200 and UK Albums Chart and your sayings its a flop? LMAO oh gosh the Rihanna Navy must be stupid..

    First-week sales in the US were 310k – that is more first-week sales than any of Rihanna’s albums. Its going to be certified Gold next week..

    @LOLITA
    Uhm have u heard Rihanna live? She doesn’t sing like she does on her songs. Thats just studio tricks to make it look like she can actually sing..LOL again Rihanna Navy is stupid!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:07 am
    4 SLAYS says:
    Vote

    4 IS A FLOP?! BEYONCE HAS BEEN AT NUMBER 1 FOR 2 WEEKS! HAS RIHANNA HAD A NUMBER 1 ALBUM?! NOOOOOOOOO HAS RIHANNA SOLD 310,000?! NOOOOO! ALL YOU PRESSED BITCHES CAN’T HANDLE KING B << FACT

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:09 am
    Teyah says:
    Vote

    @The Perrylicious is taking over… [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ]

    Ew who are you? Is this what u do all day just post hate comments on every Beyonce-related topic LMAO!

    The album is not a flop. Have u checked who’s been #1 on the Billboard 200 and UK Albums Chart for two weeks? try again next time loser!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:12 am
    aisha aguilera keys says:
    Vote

    Mr. Knowles, just let it go. Clearly, what u have done to others for B has come around to u. What a nice way of B to thank u for everything u’ve done for her.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:12 am
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    She needs to go to the US again and promote. She must love the UK so much, she even gave them free pizzas. And it’s not flopping at all.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:22 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL
    July 15, 2011 at 10:12 am

    She needs to go to the US again and promote. She must love the UK so much, she even gave them free pizzas. And it’s not flopping at all.
    ____________________________________________________________________
    Right? but she’s there filming a christmas special….she performed almost every song from 4 and the show will air December…I cant wait that long lol…when i saw the 500 pizzas yesterday(she bought them cause everyone was patient for waiting) i said “Beyonce better give us some McDonalds or sumn cause we go harder for her here than in the UK”

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:29 am
    DGRATEN8 says:
    Vote

    HOUSTON WE HAVE SPOTTED THE PROBLEM….AND MATTHEW IS RIGHT.

    BEYONCE IS AN ARTIST THAT WILL SELL ALBUMS EVEN IF HER SINGLES DONT MAKE ANY NOISE. THE HANDLING OF THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN HORRIBLE COMPARED TO HER PAST PROJECTS. HOWEVER, SHE SEEMS TO BE HAVING THE TIME OF HER LIFE. SHE DOESNT SEEM ROBOTIC WHEN SHE TALKS, SHE SEEMS SMARTER, AND SOUNDS AWESOME. IF THIS BECOMES NASTY SHE SHOULD MOVE HER MANAGEMENT TO A TEAM NOT AFFILIATED WITH HER HUSBAND OR HER FATHER. TO SHUT THEM BOTH UP. THIS IS SURE TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN HER ALBUM THO…WATCH.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:29 am
    KINGB BISH says:
    Vote

    HATERS PLEZ FALL THE PUCK BACK AND DIE UGHHH YALL GUTTER HOE’S NEED TO DIE ALREADY!!!!!!!/;)

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:29 am
    Anonymous says:
    Vote

    [...] [...]

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:30 am
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    I wonder how long it will be before someone says Bey stole handing out pizzas to fans from Gaga! Lol!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:36 am
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    I agree with Matthew’s assessment of the situation with the handling of 4. I’m just not sure what him voicing this in public is supposed to accomplish besides, him looking bitter…

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:40 am
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    @ Nice_Gurl
    @YeaBey

    Hey!!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:46 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @MISFIT Hey! Gaga bought 80 pizzas…lol Beyonce bought 200….and Gaga is not the first artist to buy pizzas for fans…lol

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:54 am
    BeBeJuJu says:
    Vote

    first, matter at hand, mathew,i really don’t know what to believe anymore! But yup, if he’s saying the promo has not been well orchestrated, then yes, he’s correct.but really it’s no longer about that, the album has already surpassed expectations so…and btinh is climbing up the charts.more these rihanna stans,o just can’t.especially this rihanna navy character and perrylicious it’s ok, it can be a flop, but it still outsold yo fave’s, infact both of them have never that much cd’s first week so yeah…stop.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:00 am
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @MISFIT and @YEABEY

    Hey!! I love the 4 album, but it’s not complete without those 3 songs on deluxe. Those are my faves off the whole album. And I don’t really know what happened between Matthew and Bey, but u never see them together anymore. I think he pushed her way too much when she was a teen. But I wasn’t there so I don’t like to make judgements.

    @BEBEJUJU I love that pic of them together. CUTE.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:12 am
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    @ YeaBey

    Lol :)

    @ Nice_Gurl

    I agree! I love that I have the deluxe of 4 as well. I love all the songs on the album(sans RTW)! It’s one of my favorite albums this year! I can’t wait for kellys album to drop. I love all my DC ladies!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:14 am
    bey'knight says:
    Vote

    Kellymotivation
    July 15, 2011 at 9:03 am
    @ BLACK

    Matthew is not talking about the promotions of “4″ but the quality of the album and song choices….He said they made the album so fast and served it to the public with the wrong singles and management…….Hence, the reason he said the only reason she sold those amount of albums was because “Beyonce” is already a brand name in itself and not because she necessarily delivered

    #PAPA KNOWLES IS ON POINT HERE.

    your comment makes no sense, infact you have the opposite way around, ,what has management got to do with the creative side of things. u just trying to say the album is not good. you’re really not as smart as u think u are, i see rite thru ur bullsh*t. since when was tracklisting part of a manager’s job? FYI, Matthew had no knowledge of recordin of a single song on bday and that was in 2 weeks. this took over a year

    at least other haters are forthcomin, you’re too much of a weakling to have some balls, you’re all these

    -a sheep
    -weak appendage
    -empty vessel
    -mechanical dummy

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:15 am
    ADJOA says:
    Vote

    SOME OF Y’ALL STANS ARE STUPID
    #FACT BEYONCE CAN OUT SING THE HELL OUT OF RIHANNA
    #FACT RIHANNA HAS A MORE POP FRIENDLY VOICE HENCE HER ABILITY TO DO MORE GENRES WITH EASE
    #OVERALL BEYONCE’S TALENT FAR EXCEEDS RIHANNA,BUT RIHANNA’S MUSIC IS MORE CATCHY NOT NECESSARILY CLASSIC BUT CATCHY. BEYONCE DEFINTELY HAS THE UPPER HAND IN THE CLASSICS DEPT.
    EG HALO,CRAZY IN LOVE,SINGLE LADIES, DANGEROUSLY IN LOVE, IRREPLACEABLE,(WHICH WAS NAMED THE NO 3 GREATEST MID TEMPO BALLAD SOMETIME BACK), TAKE A BOW WAS NOS 12. BEY ALSO HAS LOVE ON TOP, 1 PLUS 1, I WAS HERE ETC ETC
    YOU KNOW RIHANNA IS NOT THAT GREAT OF A VOCALIST WHEN U TRY TO IMAGINE HER COVERING LOVE ON TOP. SHE WONT DO IT JUSTICE

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:16 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL I think Matthew and Beyonce really started to grow a part after the whole baby thing with another woman…Beyonce and her father although he was her manager he had that Father-Daughter bond with her…I’m guessing Bey was hurt by the situation and him hiding it from her and her mom…I love the deluxe tracks expecially Schoolin’ Life….if you had to choose what would be your TOP 5 favorite songs from 4?

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:19 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @ADJOA OMG IF RIHANNA WAS TO DO LOVE ON TOP SHE WOULD CRACK ON THE SECOND PITCH LADDER BEYONCE CLIMBS IN THAT SONG! I really sat here and imagined that in my head!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:23 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    They using gimmicks to boost sales.
    What a shame.
    #flop

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:24 am
    bey'knight says:
    Vote

    can you guys pls stop feeding that troll callled perrylicious, he’s subconsciously strayin u away from discussing topic at hand. first couple of responses were all about rebutting his bulfoonery, that’s why the idiot comments early on so he can steer the ship. Am i the only one that senses the agenda of these no-good haters? #smh

    anyways, i agree with Matthew, her new team aren’t doing a great job at all regarding this project. Beyonce should have gained more ground in US b4 its release esp since RTW was not a hit and now she’s taking a long ass break to record a movie, barely a month after its release. the songs that are gfaining momentum on radio now will not be as hot when she comes back. she should at least have released 4 singles b4 shifting gears. End of time can be so huge if it’s handled properly. Some eras just aren’t gonna bode well. i’d hate for that to happen to 4 esp for all the wrong reasons the problem is certainly not to do with musicality cus fans and critics alike agree this is her best serving yet

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:26 am
    The Perrylicious is taking over... [ the real queen on 'that grape juice' ] says:
    Vote

    So, expect pregnant stories and records-deal issue.
    Knowles is garbage in Hollywood. :)

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:26 am
    bey'knight says:
    Vote

    AGAIN PLS IGNORE @PERRYLICIOUS, it’ll say the same thing every post. it’s just a parasite, dont feed it with your comments

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:27 am
    Ant says:
    Vote

    Damn shame….so glad Kelly Rowland got away a long time ago!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:31 am
    Those That Cannot Do, Stan says:
    Vote

    SMH. Messy family situation, but the dude ain’t wrong. 4 really seems to be the first of Beyonce’s downswing and the crazy amount of effort they’re putting in to sell it at the last minute screams of desperation. If her Father is out Beyonce needs to step up and really run things, because while 4 isn’t a flop it isn’t a true Beyonce success either.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:31 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @BEY’KNIGHT Yes that is so true about Perrylicious….he always comments first to “steer the ship” for e.g he made comparisons to Beyonce and Shakira with the first comment on a bey post and then every hater fed off of that one comment!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:31 am
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @MISFIT….I support all DC girls, but I do criticise them if I don’t like a song. Like RTW for example.

    @YEABEY: I too think it was that baby thing. And my fave songs from 4 is a hard choice, but here’s a list.

    1. Schoolin Life
    2. Dance For You
    3. 1+1
    4. Party
    5. Rather Die Young
    6. I Miss You
    7. Lay Up Under Me
    8. I Was Here
    9. Love On Top
    10. Best Thing I Never Had
    11. Start Over
    12. I Care
    13. End Of Time
    14. Countdown
    15. RTW (dont even listen to this song)

    But it is a great album. And have u seen what she said about how her nose runs when she performs LOL…http://www.taletela.com/news/8072/beyonce-reveals-her-nose-runs-a-lot-when-shes-on-stage

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:32 am
    BeyStan - That's Me says:
    Vote

    NOW I believe that she fired that motherfucker cause something nasty went down (he stole money from his own daughter), however that’s the first time that she steps out as THE Boss of her brand, she’s allowed to make mistakes and hopefully she’ll learn from them, ANYWAY I still have 4 on repeat and I’m eager to see more performances and can’t wait for her to kick a new tour off.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:39 am
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    @Bey’Knight

    July 15, 2011 at 11:24 am

    can you guys pls stop feeding that troll callled perrylicious, he’s subconsciously strayin u away from discussing topic at hand. first couple of responses were all about rebutting his bulfoonery, that’s why the idiot comments early on so he can steer the ship. Am i the only one that senses the agenda of these no-good haters? #smh

    anyways, i agree with Matthew, her new team aren’t doing a great job at all regarding this project. Beyonce should have gained more ground in US b4 its release esp since RTW was not a hit and now she’s taking a long ass break to record a movie, barely a month after its release. the songs that are gfaining momentum on radio now will not be as hot when she comes back. she should at least have released 4 singles b4 shifting gears. End of time can be so huge if it’s handled properly. Some eras just aren’t gonna bode well. i’d hate for that to happen to 4 esp for all the wrong reasons the problem is certainly not to do with musicality cus fans and critics alike agree this is her best serving yet
    ————

    Co-sign to all the above!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:40 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL Thanks for that article I heard about it and i wanted to read it! LOL…she’s funny I heard when she went on break yesterday she said”I’ll Be BACK!” in her Arnold Schwarzenegger terminator(the movie) voice!
    Of course i love the whole album but my Top 5 are:

    Love On Top
    I Miss U
    End Of Time
    Party
    I Care

    Schoolin’ Life (one of my new faves is going up the list) along with Countdown!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:44 am
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @YEABEY

    End of Time and Countdown would be on my top 5 but i’m more into 90′s r&b and ballads at the moment but my musical taste changes a lot. Yesterday I was listenin to east coast hip hop (Biggie, jayz) and then listened to some dance music and it sounded awful. Depends what mood im in. But she’s so funny. Her doing her english accent is funny too.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:46 am
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    @ Nice_Gurl

    That is hilarious!! Thanks for that!! :)

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:50 am
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL Yes my taste changes alot too but I stay away from some songs when they are VERRRY generic…One minute I’m this Hip-Hop Junkie! The Next I change to Dancehall then its back to R&B…Yea i saw her doing the English Accent and Australian accent..lol…She just acts so normal…Its very hard as a celebrity to keep your life private and she’s doing it well…To be honest if it wasn’t for Matthew this would not have been out in the public it would have been dealt with maturely!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:53 am
    bey'knight says:
    Vote

    @YeaBey @Misfit

    Thank you. that’s the way they operate, one of them comes up with trash excuse, all the others flock because it’s convenient for them. Another example,When Beyonce was announced as recipient of Billboard Milllenium Award, the rumour of Britney being 1st choice came from nowhere. Till date, there’s not a single receipt to support that claim but the haters need it to console themselves

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @BEY’KNIGHT
    When they make accusations like that I don’t even respond to them anymore because I KNOW its NOT true and they do it just for us to respond. I have been on this site for about 2-3 weeks and I have noticed that stan-wars is something that most of these haters depend on to survive. If everyone was to get from behind the computer and talk half of these haters would be lames who just happen to have an internet alter ego! I am trying to make it my top priority to not respond to these people…..unless necessary…Beyonce has 17 and a half months of singles, videos and promos left…at this point I am not even worried about promo for her and 4…I trust her that much! These haters can keep talking!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @YEABEY…..where’s her trying to do the australian accent?? im australian :) used to be…well still am english :)

    And she does keep her life very private. I hate people putting out rumors of her. And Jay’s pretty good at keeping their relationship private too…see the interview with him on Jonathon ross LOL he keeps changing the subject.

    And yeah the only thing i hate is generic songs…i like soft rock, r&b, rap, hip-hop, some dance music(not generic), soul, jazz, pop (but not generic).

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @BEY’KNIGHT
    When they make accusations like that I don’t even respond to them anymore because I KNOW its NOT true and they do it just for us to respond. I have been on this site for about 2-3 weeks and I have noticed that stan-wars is something that most of these haters depend on to survive. If everyone was to get from behind the computer and talk half of these haters would be lames who just happen to have an online alter ego! I am trying to make it my top priority to not respond to these people…..unless necessary…Beyonce has 17 and a half months of singles, videos and promos left…at this point I am not even worried about promo for her and 4…I trust her that much! These haters can keep talking!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL I listen to all those genres….When i say generic i mean overly synthesized with meaning-less lyics

    As for the accent thing….It was a russian accent….my bad…I had watched the video back in 2009 so i forgot!:

    but here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8iiKc42qig

    SHE’S JUST SO FUNNY!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    jamir21 says:
    Vote

    @ Prettylicious b**** shut up !
    You know what and I can`t believe I`m saying this but the promo for this album wasnt that big !
    That`s why the album had less sales on its opening week…I still love u beyonce !
    promo could have been bigger though !
    She promoted the heck out of I Am…Sasha Fierce she was everywhere in 2008 and 2009 !

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @YEABEY

    Yeah, the Russian accent is funny. The whole interview of her on Tyra is hilarious. I hope she does more interviews and performances cause I love seeing her on tv. She has great spirit and energy and she’s humble too. That is why I hate people saying mean things about her.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    BeBeJuJu says:
    Vote

    Thanks nice-gurl :)i love yours too,1+1 is defo one of my all-time fave bey songs.anyway,i agree too, but my top 15(coz I love them all) lol would be:
    1 start over
    2 end of time
    3 schooling life
    4 dreaming (japans bonus track, beautiful)
    5 count down/i miss you/i care/love on top/rtw/i was here/ party/1+1/rather die young/btinh
    15 dance for u

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL
    Exactly and Beyonce spends alot of time on the web thats how she discovered Tofo Tofo for RTW….It really really saddens me that she is online too much because I know she is reading those evil comments people make about her for no reason…It must be hard being famous…having to ignore so many negative people at once…

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    2bad2bme says:
    Vote

    HE JUST NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH SHE SALE

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @BEBEJUJU HOW COULD I FORGET “DREAMING” ?THAT IS MY ALL TIME FAVORITE! IT DEFINITELY IS MY FAVE SONG ON 4…. I WOKE UP TO IT EVERY MORNING LAST WEEK!…Its really a Gem it should have been on the Deluxe….one of those RTW remixes could have been avoided…

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    BeBeJuJu says:
    Vote

    Oh I knew I was forgetting one song, yeah, lay up under me just doesn’t do it for me. I liked every one of those songs upon first listen, including girls, lay up….not so much :/it’s the only one I skip

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @BEBEJUJU ha thanks well me fave is schoolin life but there’s no pic for that but 1+1 is my fave song that actually has a pic.

    @YEABEY: She probs goes on the net and doesn’t look at the comments. Well I hope not, but then she’s missing out on all the positive comments as well. But some comments are real nasty. And people saying she’s illuminati, even when solange wrote a few months ago on twitter saying that her family wasnt and why would people think that.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    BeBeJuJu says:
    Vote

    Yup,i feel u YEABEY, it’s such a beautiful song, makes me cry :) and exactly, it should have been on the deluxe edition

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    I never listen to RTW. Some fans love it and some fans hate it. Though, if she performed it live, it would be amazing. I like Lay Up Under Me. Mostly everything except RTW. And Dreaming is an amazing song and not surprisingly produced by Babyface. That should have been included on the standard or deluxe.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL I think the Illuminati controversy is complete and utter crap…Once someone is famous is enough and is rich enough haters call them members of the Illuminati…Beyonce does read comments…One time she said she plays games on yahoo in anonymous mode and people were on there hoping to meet her…Idk i just don’t believe in the Illuminati at all…It does help to sell records though so i think that is why most of today’s artists don’t even care..

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    RihannaNAVY says:
    Vote

    BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!
    4closure is dropping to the floor faster than a videohoe!
    Loud was #1 WW for 4 weeks
    4closure is already getting slayed & laid like a hooker.
    LMAO!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    idk Lay Up Under Me is my Jam…lol Dance for you…I love it but the length OMG….”I’m like ok Bey I love you but DAMN!” as for RTW I’ve made it clear I am not the biggest fan of that song…when you listen to the album it sounds like it doesnt belong ther you know what i mean? But when i let the CD play out and it does come on…I dance anyway…lol and when she performs it live I’m actually more interested maybe its because she incorporates trumpets and other live instruments..

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    nice_gurl says:
    Vote

    @YEABEY Yeah I guess if you think Dance For You is an ok song, then the song feels like it goes for too long, but I love it so much it could have gone for 10 minutes. I love it. And Lay Up Under Me and Schoolin Life of course. Anyway i’m going now. it’s nearly midnight in aus.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @RIHANNANAVY Are you jobless? Is hating your Full Time Job? How much do you get paid? It must be a BIG salary aint it? You hate Beyonce we Know…But don’t wish for her failure…You “claim” you dislike her but you spend time to find her charting positions and how much she sold and what not…Just stop it a Rihanna fan would be all about Rihanna…you must be pressed!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    @NICE_GURL ok Good Night!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    *waits for MTO to twist this story when they post it in a couple of minutes*

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    Casual says:
    Vote

    He’s right. The project was poorly handled and is only selling due to Beyonce’s star power. His comment about the record being put “out in a vacuum” refers to the release occurring without a major chart hit to spur interest.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    YeaBey says:
    Vote

    wow MTO didnt post it….they are probably thinking of ways to twist it and make Beyonce look bad! I’ll wait till tomorrow to see…

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 2:09 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    Wow!!!! SMFH,Good Day

    Reply

  • Vote

    [...] Scandal: Beyonce’s father, Mathew, talks handling of “4″ album and alleged theft [THAT GRAPE JUICE] [...]

  • July 15, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    WhoWhatMe says:
    Vote

    And you heard if from her own daddy’s mouth, that Jay-z has some kind of affiliation in Beyonce’s career. Beyonce is not just doing things by herself or else her dad wouldn’t be up in arms about “them”. Who is “they” if it were just Beyonce? Beyonce saying she’s doing her own manager was just a cover story as many celebs do. They give the public one explanation while they do something else.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    MH says:
    Vote

    I actually liked the promo strategy her team used. Beyonce knows she’s already a big star in the U.S so she tried to tap into overseas markets to get their attention, though she is a big star her albums don’t really sell well in European countries like Rihanna’s do because her music isn’t as “international”. What I would suggest is that she promote her singles a little bit more in the U.S performing on shows like Jay Leno, David Letterman, etc…

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    Mari (RIP Dwayne McDuffie) says:
    Vote

    It’s not a lack of promo that’s the problem. It’s a lack of hits. Plus, Matthew Knowles is right. This type of album, with this type of music, would be selling better had it been released in the 4th quarter/ during fall instead of now. From what I understand, the leak of RTWG contributed to a pushed up release and the stans were calling up her label harrassing people for new music.

    LOUD back in the WW top ten this week. Go Navy, Go!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    Mr. Mouth says:
    Vote

    It’s scary to me that in a world with so little faith in it, people become so emotionally charged up and involved with these celebrities as if they were modern day deities. We have so many other things going on, yet I find myself in a trance reading these articles and commenting on these people as if I know them for real. As if they would save me from hunger, or eviction, depravity or suicide. Sometimes I think some of the creatures on this site believe they may be saved from death by these women. What shocks me though is that if any of these women stepped one stiletto out of place today, these people, maybe including me, would become seething, raging, voracious little demons. Funny, if I saw Beyonce in heaven or hell, would I still want her autograph? The answer should be that it wouldn’t matter by then. I wonder what the rest would say or do?

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    68jayy1 says:
    Vote

    First and foremost it has already been confirmed that a representative of live nation is her manager! And what people need to recognize these last couple of albums matthew was rarely involved beyonce basically was her own manger on the IASF era while he was having babies and committing adultery and he is not talking about the quality ofthe album he is talking about how thef handling of the singles and promos were not great! What he needs to do is figure out how he’s going to keep that record company of his going now that beyonce is gone sorry but those gospel artist aren’t gonna pay the bills so he really needs to get on his hustle! And everybody needs to stop saying jay z is her manager because he’s not! And for all you Katy perry and Rihanna trolls I don’t think insaw your caves albums in the top 20 on the bb200! One to remember beyonce has longevity and heres a tip when beyonce goes on tour tell your faves to come along and grab a pen cause KING B! is gonna show thes hoes how to put on a show! The 4 era is gonna be her best era I just got that feeling! Chao!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 3:37 pm
    King B says:
    Vote

    He’s not wrong (regarding the poor promo of the album, that is), but like @Misfit said, I really don’t see what he’s trying to accomplish by publicly saying this. It makes it looks like he hasn’t got his daughter’s back. It would’ve been a lot more appropriate to tell her this in private, especially when it’s pretty obvious that Bey doesn’t want to make any public spectacles out of personal drama. This is so not what she needs right now.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    Independent Thinker says:
    Vote

    I usually stay away from post that have anything to do with Beyonce, or those whom she’s affiliated with (exception being Kelly Rowland); but upon reading this post, I had to click it to see what Matthew Knowles was talking about, and boy am I sorry I did because now I’m infuriated.
    Who the hell is Matthew to talk about “professional integrity” when he is one of the most shady handlers in the business. He built his daughter’s career on the backs of five other people (Letoya,Latavia, Kelly, Michelle, even Farrah). But, success is the sweetest revenge, and Kelly, Letoya and Michelle have obtained just that regardless of what Matthew did to them (Letoya) or did not do for them (Kelly and Michelle). People may constantly compare their careers to Beyonce’s, but the FACT is, THEY HAVE CAREERS to compare to Beyonce’s, and if it were up to Matthew, at least one of them would not (Letoya). I guess he figured if he couldn’t stop them from being successful, at least he could make sure none of them became more successful than his daughter, which is why he never invested all that he could have into the projects of his other artists (Kelly, Michelle, even Solange). NONE of those girls were marketed properly. Their albums were not promoted properly. The buzz that THEY recieved and the numbers that THEY pulled were based on THEIR star power ALONE and I never once heard Matthew speak on his/the labels failure to properly market Simply Deep or the promotional disaster that was Ms. Kelly. He never spoke on the way they just let Michelle’s first secular attempt as a solo artist (Unexpected) slip through every crack imaginable. He never defended them or even spoke of them as though they were valuable to him. He just used them to aid in the exasperating campaign that was every Beyonce era to date.
    How ironic is it that ALL THREE girls have seperated themselves from Matthew, and now Kelly is finally peaking (looong over-due). Michelle, well I don’t know what she’s doing, but I’m sure she’s happy doing it and Beyonce is now resting on her brand. All three girls claim to still love and support one another but remain tight lipped when it comes to Matthew. I think all three of them were tired of being affiliated with a snake. Sucks for Beyonce because that snake happens to be her father. Matthew should just stop talking. He’s obviously sad and bitter, but he should have known this day was coming. How long do you think you can mishandle someone’s career before they wise up and say, ‘enough’ ? How long do you think you can make someone close to you look bad until they wise up and say, ‘no more’ ? How long do you think you can commit adultery before your wife wises up and says, ‘we’re making our divorce official, sign them papers’ ?
    Matthew Knowles has done people dirty. He took advantage of the people who loved and trusted him and now the only thing he has to show for it is desperate, unneeded, unwarrented complaints about the handling of his daughter’s latest album. That’s no longer his concern.

    Somebody should ask him what he thinks of Kelly’s multiple weeks at no#1, her hard hitting BET awards performance, and the possibility of this being the biggest and best selling album of her career thus far. Ask him why she couldn’t have that when she was being managed by him?

    I would love to hear him speak on that.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    BC says:
    Vote

    am i the only one who has notices britney spears is trying 2 do award shows and promo now since femme fatale is not selling well?

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    yup says:
    Vote

    I dont have no idea why the hell yal comparing Rihanna and Beyonce together..hands down beyonce is a way better singer no argument talking bout her voice flat -_- stupid, and her is a wonderfull performer and artist and to me number one.. and rihanna is agreat singer to but different from beyonce, in terms of the way she sing..she cant sing like beyonce and beyonce can not sing like her im not saying rihanna is bad..she great, awesome but they do there work different..So why compare two different people ??? stupid, …and also her album didnt flopp..its just that it was not promoted proply and plus it leaked …..LEAKED out early so why not get a free download and ave money …ever think about that.??

    So ….stop comparing beyonce and rihanna together you just sound so stupid..and beyonce dont want to be like rihanna because she is beyonce and rihanna dont wana be like beyonce cause she is rrihanna..she stfu please

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    Kenny says:
    Vote

    Matthew is right, he knew how to handle her career and he is the reason why she is where she is now. This project is terrible, and she hasnt even hit the 500k mark which is shameful. Her fanbase is declining and its being noted.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    BC says:
    Vote

    @YUP
    u r right but try geting the rihanna and beyonce stans 2 believe that.im still trying 2 figure out why the beyonce stans even argue it.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    BC says:
    Vote

    I WANT MATTHEW BACK

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    Wait for kelly's album first before all the noise says:
    Vote

    All i keep saying is wait till 28th of july and we have to have a follow up on kelly rowland’s album sales. If she doesn’t outsell Beyonce first week. It’s wrap she need to go join girlicious. If she outsells Beyonce, Beyonce should go join girlicious. I’m playing fair game here.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 4:34 pm
    Wait for kelly's album first before all the noise says:
    Vote

    without any promo I would say Beyonce is doing so good. You can say what u want to say, but kelly’s album is coming and i would have a field day if she doesn’t go platinum in 2 weeks or sell more that 200,000 first week.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    TAYLOR SWIFTS NUMBER 1 FAN says:
    Vote

    The album is predicted to drop to number 5 next week on the album chats in america, well thats what the billboard website says.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    gus says:
    Vote

    The album 4 is so good really believe me!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    Beyonce has sold over 700,000+ So Far!! Ha Without Matthew.Theirs nothing wrong with her getting help from her husband either,even if he isn’t her manager.Some of you Kelly Gobblins are sitting back waiting on something to say on every Beyonce post.If you hate her so much,why bother.Noone knows the Full Details of what happened between her and her dad,but those who are involved in it.Anyway I wish her the Best.Matthew need to Shut The Hellup,he’s already embarrased their family enough.She’s better off without him.Atleast she’s happy with being able to do what she wants to do,on this album.In my opinion this is her best work.She should go back in the studio,make another Hot Uptempo Song or Make “Party” her next Single.Either Way She Will Be Just Fine Without Matthew.Have A Good Weekend

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    BC says:
    Vote

    if 4 is selling like this with scarce promo think how much it could of or will do with huge promo.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    BC says:
    Vote

    Sam u better post beyonce WW sales

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    I Know Right,since their turning their site into A Soap Opera

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    KAT DELUNA FAN says:
    Vote

    I dont like Jay-z
    He is a snake disguised in a camel
    I DONT LIKE HIM

    Beyonce messed up all the promo because of jay

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    If that were the case,didn’t they say she had a new manager,if that’s so.Shouldn’t her team be the blame.I personally don’t think her promo was messed up.She’s done,American Idol twice,Glastonbury,X Factor amongst several others.Once she’s done with that program in the UK for December,she’ll probably start her US promos and US tours.The radios aren’t giving her new cd a lot of airplay either,it seems like she’s somewhat being blackballed.Anyway,I wish her the best.Its a Damn Shame her dad wants to wait until she’s been in the business for 15 years to start running his Big Mouth to the media.Had he been straightup,maybe he wouldn’t have the Shiface.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 6:12 pm
    TR says:
    Vote

    HAHAHAHAH take that bitter Beyonce trolls!!! I guess now that u’ve got confirmation from Ole Matty Knowles *Himself, you won’t waste your time blaming Sam for ‘Biased coverage, or ‘fabrication’!!! LOL. Point-Blank, period, Matty conniving ass got fired, is mad as s***, and blames Jay-z from stealing his cash cow!!! Regardless if true, or not, what IS apparent is that Beyonce w/o Dr. Ivo=Overrated, Pop lead singer, and NOT a superstar…..3 week sales are tumbling faster than Precious on a tricycle I see…

    Vindication is sweet as hell, ain’t it Matt?!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 6:18 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    Typo “Shitface”

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    Jazmine says:
    Vote

    Beyoncé 4 #1 albums , Rihanna 0 . THE END .

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 6:58 pm
    jamie says:
    Vote

    It wasn’t the way it was handled, it was what was on the mess and their motive behind releasing it!!! GOD DON’T LIKE UGLY

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 7:00 pm
    rah rah like a dungeon dragon says:
    Vote

    for all saying she is better off without her father needs to know because of him she is big as she is today, if anything i will say beyonce is quite disrespectful in treating her father the way she does, jay z is already a fallen icon, i dont think beyonce brand will take him to new heights…big mistake is on beyonce for letting matthew go, cause if matthew stucked around we wouldnt be seeing 700k in 2wks, for christ sake that was a 1/4 of gaga 1wk sales, lets not even speak of adele, cause it feels like adele has transformed into the new Beyonce….Matthew is the boomdigity so deal with that without him, her name is all she was to fall back on the name Matthew created, the brand he created for her

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 7:19 pm
    Misfit says:
    Vote

    @ you know who you are

    Please, stop trying to pit Kelly against Bey! What kinda crap is that! They love and support each other. Just because some insane Kelly stans come for Bey, does not mean, it’s right to bad mouth Kelly! WTF did she do! Go after the deluded on how crazy they are!

    I dunno, this s*** would be funny, if it wasn’t so sad…

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 7:20 pm
    pretty RickE says:
    Vote

    @Perrylicious, what will you go down in history for? You gonna say Beyonce song isnt number 1 on the chart, what song do you have on the chart? what dream of yours are you living out? O, thought not, shut the funk up, while your sitting there going back on fourth over a women who is doing well, millions of $’s in the bank, your broke @ss is at work, sitting on your computer talking about people who dont give a funk about you. Haters have more impact then fans, keep doing what you do!, and a number 1 album 2 weeks in a row is never a flop!!

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:34 pm
    can'tbelieveit says:
    Vote

    @YEABEY Yes I too believe Bey was very hurt by her father’s actions with the baby outside of her parents marriage. It’s hard to narrow down to 5 when I enjoy/love the entire album, but here’s my list from the delux album
    1.1+1
    2. Dance for you
    3. I care
    4. Schoolin life
    5.Lay under me
    6. BTINH
    7. Countdown
    8. Love on top
    9. I miss you
    10.End of time
    11.Party
    12.Startover
    13.I was here
    14.RTW
    I love the whole album and maybe my faviorites would be
    Dance for you, 1+1, Countdown, I Care, End of Time, Startover, Schoolin Life, Love on Top & I Miss You

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    can'tbelieveit says:
    Vote

    If Matthew by far was/is a father first and not because he created a superstar (Beyonce) he will if need be still be there for Beyonce at all and any cause if she needs him. Remember he/she said he is a father first then her manager. Now true Beyonce is a brand and she’s now grown & married so yes, even thou Matthew is her father and the bible do states to honor thy father and mother, she hasn’t stray away from her honor to her parents, but she is doing what is right by her marriage, and that is Jay is her family first whether it’s like or not as well as she is Jay’s family first. That is what a marriage does, it joins the two as one.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:12 pm
    TRUE TALENT says:
    Vote

    Bottom line…Beyonce is the best female performer in the game!

    MJ=GOD OF MUSIC

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    Evandro BR-RJ says:
    Vote

    People!
    They know what the problem is the haters?
    It is very simple:
    Everyone (critics, media and more ..) knows that the competition for more than sell more, they will never be better than Beyonce! Beyonce, selling or not selling, is a musical and artistic quality that Rihanna, Katy Perry & Lady Gaga has not! And even these competitors reach the level of Beyonce, Beyonce is already too much (much more) up!
    Being commercial does not always mean being good!
    The pop, pop futile, and is in high fashion!
    They are fevers. are everywhere. But one thing is correct, tomorrow and after tomorrow will be here for Beyonce! And they? will be too?
    (Google translator)

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    KAT DELUNA FAN says:
    Vote

    I WANT MATTHEW BACK TOO

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    Rick says:
    Vote

    Matthew is right…. Just face facts. Matthew was cut throat#FACT
    because that’s what kind of business (entertainment) it is, cut throat.
    Beyonce’s promo has not been properly coordinated: FACT
    her promotion lacks consistency, especially after the leak: FACT
    Beyonce entire album NEVER leaked with Matthew, a song or two maybe but
    not the whole album…. gotdamn

    Why is that? Is it because of Matthew not being there with Beyonce?
    We will never know.
    Executives know that the sale of her latest effort is subpar to say the least!
    A Flop just like everyone is calling it… number folks, the numbers are dismal for an
    Artist of Beyonce’s caliber.
    Her appearances are not garnishing enough revenue at this time#FACT
    Maybe her tour will fix that, but album sales= concert tickets, both usually
    Go hand in hand.
    The album has its down falls… lyrics, screaming, grunting and its highlights…
    Two good songs#FACT

    Beyonce should reinvent herself, stop channeling Tina Tuner, get
    rid of the wig and all outfits, take a stab a writing her own music
    and stop claiming rights to the few words she writes down….

    I think that she should hire her father back with a CPA, both of them
    should work together, Jay-Z should take care of his wife personally
    Not professionally.
    When you come home to your husband or wife, business should
    not be on the table#PERIOD

    Money never sleeps, but at least you can rest comfortably with
    Your spouse.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:29 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    Why would she hire her father back if he’s betrayed her.What is a Father/Manager without Trust.

    Reply

  • July 15, 2011 at 11:55 pm
    Kill Yourselves Haters says:
    Vote

    People say they don’t like Jay,he’s this and that.Why would he try to hurt his wife or see her fall.I’ve saw her in interviews talk about her feuds with her father about her style of music and the way she likes to handle her business.She has outgrown a lot of things over the last 15yrs.She has evolved into a more independent artist,she was tired of doing what everyone else wanted,just for sells.I’m glad she’s strong enough to step out.I’m sure she’s Grateful for all her dad has done for her,but she’ll be 30 in September.She may have a few setbacks,but I believe she’ll overcome them all,come out on top and continue to be one of the best artist in the world.Love conquers all,whatevers going on will be resolved eventually.She knows Exactly what she’s doing.She has gone against a lot of decisions others planned for her to do,only to learn from her mistakes and take more control of her future business endeavors.Trust me she loves her husband,but she’s a strong black woman.She will do Exactly what she feels in her heart is best for her.If her auditors were called in to exam her money and foundout she was being taken advantage of,I don’t blame her for ending the partnership.I’m Sure She’s Tightened Up and isn’t as trusting as she was with her father.Again,he should Be Ashamed With His Shady Ass.

    Reply

  • July 16, 2011 at 2:07 am
    lb says:
    Vote

    I will give you a few good comeback jokes
    for anyone that insults you a lot
    http://lnk.co/HDR3C

    Reply

  • Vote

    [...] (Girls)' failed to chart as highly as predicted. Knowles told the Associated Press, …Mathew Knowles Slams The Handling Of Beyonce's '4′That Grape JuiceMathew Knowles Addresses Theft Allegations, Beyoncé's Album [...]

  • July 16, 2011 at 6:26 am
    100% REAL says:
    Vote

    You may not like the man, but he’s telling the truth. If it were up to Matthew, there would have never been a “4″ album. And, if it were and he was behind it, it would have done much better than it has so far. Matthew was a ‘beast” when it came to managing Beyonce’s career – music and image wise. Ever since she and her father have parted ways, things have started going downhill very quickly. Now, I’m not suggesting that Beyonce go back to Matthew (especially with his shady ways), I’m just merely pointing out
    how well he managed her. She will continue to have success with another management team, but no one will ever be able to push her to the level that she was at before the way that Matthew did.

    Reply

  • July 16, 2011 at 6:37 am
    JER says:
    Vote

    Papa Knowles has been selling his daughter’s p**** for 15 years and now he’s mad that he’s not signing her checks anymore and she aint signing his

    Reply

  • July 16, 2011 at 7:39 am
    Al says:
    Vote

    Not a Bey fan but I support her works, used to be a DC4 fan BIG time. Definitely NOT a Riri fan but I have to agree with Matt or even some Riri’s fan. Her promo has been very bad handled on the other end Bey is getting older, she is a married woman and seems to be promoting getting into married life quite a lot, behaving as if she is the only married woman in the world. I believe she should take a break, raise a familly and enjoy sex and money. Then come back a new woman. Live that silly naked thingy to Riri, u’re too big for that Bey, it’s time to get mature…. Bless up!

    Reply

  • Vote

    [...] the Associated Press, …Beyonce's Father Slams Record Label Over 4 Release411mania.comMathew Knowles Slams The Handling Of Beyonce's '4′That Grape JuiceMathew Knowles Addresses Theft Allegations, Beyoncé's Album [...]

  • July 17, 2011 at 10:31 pm
    D says:
    Vote

    Mathew Knowles MADE Beyonces career!! he has every right to complain as an ex-manager and more importantly as her father!! I wouldnt sit back and watch something fail especially if i worked hard to get it where it is!!!

    Reply

  • July 26, 2011 at 3:01 am
    Sherry says:
    Vote

    Matthew Knowles has lost his mind and he’s on some Michael Lohanesque bull. Obviously, he has a guilt trip over stealing from Bey. So he’s on his “Matthew is Innocent” tour where of course he’s going to place blame on her husband. Who he’s always been jealous of. He may fool some, but that sucker ain’t fooling no one but himself. Why would she have him manage her? He STOLE MONEY WHICH WAS PROVEN! He has been shady for decades. I’d rather Bey have a less radio friendly cd than Single Ladies part deux with no growth except singles where she’d be washed up in a year and him undermining Kelly’s release. Which you know that’s what would happen. 4 is the first cd Bey had that stayed #1 for more than a week, it is her most positive reviewed and I’m glad she went into THAT direction that other artists such as Madonna (Erotica), Prince (Lovesexy), Janet (Velvet Rope), etc. have where they change to grow. The “i got 50 #1″ era is ending. Sorry, Matthew hope you have a good lawyer.

    Reply

Connect with:

Leave a Reply



eXTReMe Tracker